Nijisanji Won't Like This... | Hex's Reason For Leaving Nijisanji, Idol Announces 5 Graduations

[@Khyo]

Sorry for reuploading this. I planned on double uploading originally but I decided to just merge the two topics together for one video. Hope ya understand!

[@KeebeThePlush]

Ok

[@AntonioLopez-z1e]

I understand man

[@LucidDreamexe]

I was mid video on the original upload lol Glad it was just your own QA

[@antonionatale6473]

Wow, can we please show some respect for the man by also leaving a like to the video for the beautiful sound notification of Merlin being tickled by Fou❤👏

[@phryos6541]

niji livers interacting with ex livers is giving off vibes that everything is about to wrap up- either the ones interacting with ex-livers are graduating too or a group of EN livers are graduating at once and they don't care anymore.

[@lizlizbianrosethornsword]

The thing is..I don't mind usually if they do that. But Hex? Is a different story.

[@NinjAsylum]

They've literally been interacting with eachother for almost an entire year lol. This isnt new. Drama youtuber is just trying to make some money with a new non-drama video.

[@GoldRichness]

@@NinjAsylum oh come off it, mercenary

[@patrickconlon2628]

​@@NinjAsylum so why are you watching a drama youtuber then? lol

[@konaqua122]

I was telling this during the selen drama last feb. There is no reason for Niji to continue the EN branch and it has a chance that it harms their other branches more instead. I wont be surprised at this point if someone from niji en is sleeping with someone in niji higher up. Looking through the company's eyes, I dont see any profit for EN branch. This is not hate, just a critical perspective. Their reputation is so bad that I am having a hard time thinking who would dare to sponsor or collab with that branch other than shady companies

[@tvvoty]

8:24 "lets catch up in life" was the name of Mysta's graduation announcement stream i think. So hex probably made a reference to that and Kuro replied acknowliging it.

[@Saibre568]

💀

[@Fayyyyyxx]

It is indeed a mysta reference

[@L16htW4rr10r]

That sounds highly ominous imo...

[@kairium1274]

"You could have just ask." "You can just leave." i dont know man... it seems many peoples asked but cant leave.

[@Tyyin.]

Same energy “You can just ask for your button.”. You can ask, but they won’t do it…

[@justinthawsetmyo4173]

I watched Rin's "graduation" announcement when it came out, I just love her sense of humour. Watched her shorts all the time when I'm bored lol.

[@cloverlui]

Huh.. Remember the rrat? That one niji liver who's been "leaking" the discord chats. There was one question in regards to as why they choose to remain staying if niji were as bad as the leaks says. And the liver went and said that there's a queue for graduation. And after the fiasco with Selen, the graduation with that liver was getting pushed back further and further.

[@laudennis8633]

And either Hex is lying about the when he decided to leave or he skip the queue according to the rat

[@megarotom1590]

The rrat has way too many other holes like iirc they claimed Matara was complicit in the bullying (mostly bc the og rrat said she was bullied by her genmates then got demolished when it was revealed they were still in contact so they tried to twist things to make their rrat still work). Considering Mata’s so friendly with Mint and even showed up to wrestletuber, that theory is pretty destroyed. Mints return really destroyed most clique theories bc Mata bridges the accused and the victims. The true culprits are getting away with it because people are looking at the scapegoats The graduation queue though is practically common knowledge though Also a leaker has a lot of explaining to do for sitting on information of bullying and other horrible things until after Selen’s attempt. They make claims of things many months before the termination so they would have had to know about everything going on for months then conveniently only reveal it after the black screen stream and other controversy which would really only happen if someone was making it up so waiting till they were relatively sure new info wouldn’t come out anytime soon to contradict them. I mean they don’t mention the Luca drama or related stuff revealed at the time despite it being nearly impossible for them to know what they claimed to know without hearing any of the stuff in that document

[@holographicwing]

@@megarotom1590 Um mint is not matara's gen mate so no that doesnt prove anything at all about the clique theories which are that Enna, elira, and millie live together and Elira is the shadow manager. It's very obvious as someone who actually was a fan of Nina and Enna's that Enna and co were mean to Nina in the beginning which is something all of them admitted. There's also a ton of evidence of Elira getting special treatment like endless merch inclusions no one else gets.

[@megarotom1590]

@@holographicwing I should have been clearer cause you misunderstood what I said - The first major rrat theorized Nina was bullied by the “clique” - it had since then been found out Matara was still in contact with multiple members of supposed clique - the Niji leaker rrat was then posted out after that was more known, this time claiming Nina was part of the clique. - this claim was even more ridiculous especially once Mint redebuted with Mata’s help which happened after the nijileaker was posted - as a nail in the coffin, Mata showed up to wrestletuber and Mint was the cohost - tldr: Nina could neither be a victim nor complicit with the proposed clique the rrat suggests. Now if the nijj leaker rrat was just claimed as a theory that part specifically could’ve just been wrong. But they claimed to know this stuff from insider sources so even a single detail wrong without good explanation means they either aren’t an actual leaker or they’re lying about them. Additional notable discrepancies: - failing to mention Luca drama, Aster drama, and a lot of other Luxiem key details exposed by the Raziel document despite much of that being things a leaker would know - they claimed a mass graduation in… tbh idr if it was like May or June they said but it certainly was much before august. To be fair though they could’ve been pushed back but still a noticeable discrepancy - they claimed Elira and Pomu basically secretly disliked each other which not only is ridiculous with the amount of promoting pomu did of Elira and the ship before leaving but also Mint has mentioned Elira since reincarnation both as her current persona and her past life and both times with positive connotations (I’ve also heard they’re still in contact however haven’t found proof of that yet so I’ll leave that as a rumor for now) Point is the Niji leaker has more holes than Swiss cheese and the only reason people buy it is cause when it went big, those holes weren’t visible at the time

[@鹿野修哉-u2k]

@@megarotom1590 proof us that Elira, enna and millie are just scapegoats

[@MidoriShibuya]

Rin had the audience to go indie ages ago, it's nuts

[@ericp631]

I mean most people know her and not idol. The disparity between her numbers and everyone else in idol indicates that. All that stood in her way was keeping the ip

[@EndoftheBeginning17]

@@ericp631 This is the same with Phase, Pippa is well known as is Tenma but not the others. Only way to break out of the bubble is to break out of the bubble. Normally being an introvert and being online is not a good sign because introverts, real introverts rarely go out of their way to initiate contact and ask for collabs, the genuinely successful VTubers and streaers that do well on their own are usually extroverts or are introverts with a support system in place

[@megalodon7916]

@@EndoftheBeginning17 Pippa has repeatedly said she doesn’t want to leave Phase. That’s the difference. She is happy where she is. She even talked about one time another company attempted to get her to leave and join them, and she merely feigned interest so they told her what they were offering, and then told everything to Sakana. Based on her actions, I don’t see her wanting to leave and go indie unless, like Idol, Phase is bought by someone else, and Sakana steps down as CEO. She seems pretty happy where she is considering she was willing to basically spy on a competing company trying to hire her for Sakana

[@moonshiro]

​@@ericp631..mmm not really. The only real reason why people know her is because of idol. she got famous doing shorts about how the company works and if Idol and Aviel weren't allowed her to do that then she would not have been so famous that is the main reason why people follow her and found her Channel because she was giving some sort ofanswers to a lot of questions people had and that's the main thing and that's probably why she's leaving because as her word now the company is working quote unquote ' as it should ' basically meaning they are not letting her laugh at the company and disclose secret working stuff anymore so she doesn't have her main Money Maker anymore so that's the thing. It was kind of obvious and also another "gard" is kind of obvious two others I was not predicting but it kind of makes sense

[@jayemover_16]

I really hope Rin accomplishes her "Get 1 Million subs and Immediately Keel Over" plan. It'd be so fucking funny if she did.

[@sandalphoncpu]

One things for sure. As long as Hex learn from this horrible experience and owns responsibility for his actions, even though I highly doubt he deservedly should knowing he’s working in a black company, and everybody gives him a 2nd chance at whatever career he pursuits, I’m sure he will give the rest of Niji EN livers further encouragement to graduate without any repercussions. Not only that, giving Hex the 2nd chance would allow him to also give his side of the story without the fear of being sued just like what Sayu experienced with her letter. Seeing the Niji members interacting with former Niji members is a very good sign that they’re not totally manipulated by Niji.

[@pizzamozzarella4686]

idk, Hex's persona is the same as it always has been, even before he joined Nijisanji. Don't think he'll change much.

[@87axal]

Pedos should never get second chances. Let alone third.

[@megarotom1590]

@@pizzamozzarella4686 yeah fair. I think it’s fine to be doubtful one will show change. But the poster is saying if he does and does make amends for his past actions that giving him a second chance is best for everyone. Though it’ll ultimately ofc be up to those he’s hurt if he’s truly forgiven

[@Elc22]

I HIGHLY doubt that Vshojo will allow him to join, at least for now. There is too much heat around his current employment, and his standing with the overall fan community is not great. Anyone worth their salt in charge of hiring would say no. Given the situation, it's best to let him do his own thing for a while and build an independent reputation after his imprisonment before any real consideration can be given to hiring. If anything, it would not be a stretch for Quinn or another former big agency talent to show up as part of the new members of Vshojo. My guess is that there are going to be multiple new talents onboarded in this audition wave, with a mix that includes former big agency talent.

[@HRDSalami654]

They also just closed applications, so they will probably be busy going through the applications for a while.

[@willaverynerdyclarinetist6131]

Hex aside, the fact that Nijisanji employment can openly be called Imprisonment and have absolutely nobody with a brain call it crazy is... well, crazy. To think I once wanted to audition for them. Boy, I sure was naive.

[@waterking74]

Hex is a huge red flag for vtuber corpos he seems more untrustworthy than quinn

[@JA-js8uk]

@@waterking74what did Quinn even do during his stint at Niji that was even remotely close to the shit Hex pulled? Quinn made a few references to a Korean stereotype whereas Hex tried playing armchair therapist with his audience and slandered a former coworker. They aren’t even remotely similar

[@luisiana1121]

@@JA-js8uk The funny thing is that the korean stereotype isn't even a stereotype anymore. It's just true. Irony is that 4 new plastic surgery places opened up in korean town of all places here in LA around when Kyo made a joke about it

[@lavender_milk312]

Ngl no one will remember this, but I think Noctyx was the only group not to throw their own gen mate (yugo) under the bus when terminated.

[@hunnilola]

They didn’t, but I think sonny did say something. But it wasn’t a throw under the bus

[@kaydenhagg6924]

They stated how they fought for yugo

[@lavender_milk312]

@@kaydenhagg6924 yh it felt like a few months ago I can't believe it's been 2 years

[@yangxiaolong3429]

I feel sorry for the artists who design/rig their models, it's a waste if they don't last long damn!

[@katherinestardragon4386]

Artist and rig models are company employees, only the 2 of them from what I can see. Outside help apparently doesn't count in.

[@Jyukenmaster95]

"He threw Sayu under the bus, just like everybody else did" I'm pretty sure Doppio and Meloco didn't? Hex absolutely had the option to not.

[@GenshinLover283]

If memory serves he mostly just said he was hurt/made uncomfortable by the SA joke(understandable since he's a victim of SA himself). As far as I know the only gen mate that threw Sayu under the bus was Kotoka

[@nightshadow1413]

@@GenshinLover283 Finnana did too! Also, no disrespect, but why should he feel hurt when he's done a few SA asmrs before, Vox walked along those lines too with a few of his asmrs!

[@kaydenhagg6924]

Also, add Ver to the list of people who didn't throw sayu under the bus.

[@kaydenhagg6924]

​@@GenshinLover283if that is his story that is.

[@kaydenhagg6924]

​@@nightshadow1413are we speaking SA comfort audios? Or?

[@Ebonheart2319]

The Niji grad queue is real. The grad queue is functionally everyone in EN. Managers decide the order of grad. Order/Dates of grad are under NDA until publicly announced to suppress investor panic. (Selene was likely a spring/summer grad, so termination was supposed to be negligible, no milk from an expired bovine)

[@ArcanistShion]

If only they let her graduate in peace…LOL

[@sunchild719]

Something I wanted to add about the retweets against our dragon girl. He is right, the managers have been shown and proven to have control over the liver's account. I fully believe that many of the managers made them post this. The ones that didn't have managers with a conscience. Which is why I think we shouldn't hate the liver's..just the management. Cause in the end. They don't actually have a voice

[@davidjohnson4171]

Ah so they just stood by and watched as a woman who'd already made two attempts was kicked while she was down. Well, doesn't that just make it all better. "I vas just following orders!" didn't fly at Nuremberg and it shouldn't here either.

[@justsomeguywithkaminasshad7145]

There is a valid reason to hate Hex

[@FireFireLite]

That's the fish toilet flusher and plays around with someone's ashes guy, right?

[@GummyDinosaursify]

I was trying to remember why I knew this guy

[@porcelainpup]

Huh

[@SpoiltLittlePrincess]

He also encouraged his fans to treat him like a therapist - in his own words - although he's not licensed, and there are photos from a desperate fan who carved his name into their arm and asked him to save them. One also faked trying to 'make an exit' for his attention, too. He was also nasty to Sayu and agreed with the black stream/'stood by the message'.

[@user-cYhjMAHpW]

Don't forget that he stole Yugo Asuma's items on Minecraft and he uses Finana "Educate Yourself" Ryugu's VRChat Avatar and pretending as her.

[@ddbob1]

​@@SpoiltLittlePrincess that's part of his lore

[@Arvenmutt]

Ngl im kinda loving how some of the nijjsanji vtubers are interacting with ex nijj vtubers is kinda feels like a fuck you to any color or nijj (idk) and its so funny

[@Craze961]

I'm ready for the tea from their new life if they continue to pursue the vtuber virtual space

[@NoteGames380]

To be fair, Hex didn't talk about being gaslit. He said he was hurt by Sayu's SA jokes because he was a victim of SA. It was just a joke, and I don't think everyone who makes edgy jokes should be condemned, but I think he was justified in being upset. As for Kotoka and Finana, there's no compelling evidence to support their claims or disprove them so I'm more inclined to believe Sayu on that. The Selen black screen stream situation is still indefensible if it was done willingly, but given that practically every liver quote retweeted that, it's very possible that it was management ordered so I'll need more information to make a decision.

[@boof6950]

one thing I'm thinking is that niji has taken control over livers twitter accounts before right? so what was stopping them from saying "you have to say you agree with this" or just straight up tweeting it themselves

[@fie97]

I don't think people know this but Enna alao comenting on Michi's first song cover (around 1 hour-ish after release). She delete it soon tho.

[@he4rtss]

I may be the only one that didn't expect Hex's graduation But to be fair I haven't been very active after the whole Selen Tatsuki situation and don't watch Vtubers anymore but Hex was the only one still managing to peak my interest. It's sad to see him leave.

[@KimOnManhood]

Now nijisanji gets its karma counterattack due to Hex chooses graduation after mentioning Selen once.After Hex's graduation NDF is going to use another en talents as their training dummy everyday.💀

[@onicore]

I'm willing to give the newer gens' members the benefit of the doubt because, being new in the niji EN side, they likely had no clue about how bad things were and/or were repeatedly lied to in order to side with the company. The only reason I'm willing to accept this as truth (until proven otherwise) is because we've heard from ex-nijis, REPEATEDLY by now, how their confidence and morale is kept low at all times, how they're led to think that they need to work extra hard, etc., so manipulation is probably commonplace there.

[@NinjAsylum]

Ex members interact with current members all the time. Nijisanji does not care. The only ones that arent allowed are the members that were TERMINATED. All of the members that graduated on their own are allowed to interact with anyone they want. They have been for literally months.

[@mikuni-kun5023]

Well... i mean, i at least have not seen this type of interacción between them. Sure, i have seen kuro with the stalker bit, but thats all. Also going as far as replying to that person or going to their chat to say hello isnt really what they do. And last of all, fulgur has mentioned selen lately, something that supposedly the shouldnt do because she was terminated and brought kurosanji to flames

[@konaqua122]

He was thinking about graudation last december and decided on february. Selen tatsuki, attempted on december and terminated on feb 5. Wasn't saying he is part, but rather maybe he heard stuff on december and confirmed on feb. Just one is a coincidence and two is... not

[@MutatedAmerican]

He probably did his own investigation when LCOC was removed, and was told it was nothing. Then, when February hit after the termination/unalive announcement was revealed, he was like WTF, and demanded answers. And when the black video came, he mist have submitted his graduation notification. Could be wrong about this, but this does make sense

[@FakfridSumanko]

Except for his "i fully stand by this message" does not make sense if that was the case. edit: Dont forget about how Sayu was treated.

[@sandalphoncpu]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@FakfridSumanko Of course it doesn’t make sense. If you understand a smidget of what employees faced in a black company, you should know to take any of their words not as their own, but as the company’s. If you’re using Sayu’s treatment as an example, how about imagine if Hex were to publicly admit he was in the wrong or say what’s really going on behind the scenes like Sayu did with her letter. What do you think it’s gonna happen in a company that’s as abusive and legally hostile as Niji? Sued her and she’s forced to go into the negatives fighting the case. That also applies to every single member of Niji if they did what 99% of you keyboard warriors demanded of them to do.

[@Ruzvian]

​@@FakfridSumankoNiji known for zombified their talent sosmed account. I won't be surprised if Hex get same treatment.

[@zaknotkyle]

@@FakfridSumankoMay I propose that the puppeting of Niji liver accounts happened here?

[@FakfridSumanko]

​@@sandalphoncpu I'm referring to the video he made about Sayu. It seems like you're acting as the keyboard warrior here. I'm not sure where Hex is from, but there's a good chance Niji might not be able to take legal action. Sayu has only mentioned a potential lawsuit, which she would likely win. Anycolor wont have a case in NA. I don't expect any of them to release a Google Doc exposing Nijisanji though. I'm sorry, but I'm not naive enough to believe that the streamers are just following orders all the time.

[@lizlizbianrosethornsword]

Usually I don't mind people catching up but notice how people react when he wanna patch up? Yeah that should tell you the full story.

[@sandalphoncpu]

Yeah let’s listen to the fans. The fans surely know both sides of the story because they 100% worked in Niji and talks to the livers in person. Good on ya buddy

[@lizlizbianrosethornsword]

​@@sandalphoncpuI meant the livers reactions. I know all to well how Niji fans are.

[@sandalphoncpu]

@@lizlizbianrosethornsword Sayu tried to reach out to her former colleagues like Matara and Kuro, and they didn’t rely to her at all on Twitter. She even tried to call them by their phone number and still they didn’t accept the call. Does that tell you the whole story? Does it show that Sayu was a terrible colleague in Niji and she was putting up with the act?

[@MutatedAmerican]

I may be willing to hear him out still after graduation. Though I don't expect to forgive, I do think hearing him out won't hurt. For all we know, he may have even been manipulated by the company, directly or not, to have such thoughts against Sayu and Selen. That or it was all him, and if, well that's that Either way, the man will be definitely have something for Redditors and 4channers

[@GoldRichness]

I won’t. Betraying once is more than enough to paint you negatively

[@nightowl9269]

Theirs always the possibility of a nuked bridge as he's on his way out.

[@thegoldexperience8340]

Burned bridges, no second chances

[@akiodemon]

There was no holding him back if he did research before making a statement when Sayu gotten termed by the company.

[@akiodemon]

And if he didn’t know, he could had said something vague or something nice like Ver said for her goodbyes.

[@hanako4297]

2 mins is crazy

[@supercoolturnip_]

tbh, i’m not surprised at all about this. both hex and ver have been somewhat active on their pl twitters, soo

[@holographicwing]

He said he decided for sure in February for a reason if you ask me. Very much a "please support me I am team Selen wink wink nudge nudge" indicator. Makes me wonder if the queue was blocked or something and it will be one every month following this.

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

Im sorry its not really related but he has no teeth when he talks and i keep staring at his mouth cause im so bewildered

[@Dragonbleps]

A few of the Niji models give the impression of no teeth, or the teeth looking like gums instead, and it makes it difficult for me to watch some of them talk haha

[@vöneuir]

This is so focking random, IJBOL

[@DolFunDolhpinVtuber]

Good luck to all Idol Corp talents whether they are staying or going.

[@nineswords]

I'm with the companies on this one. If talents could leave with their channels and models after graduation, I could see bad actors applying just to use the large companies as a springboard to start their tuber career with no actual long time plans for supporting the company.

[@davidjohnson4171]

Is that not what they're there for already? literally the only reasons to join one is quick advancement of viewer numbers and a small amount of legal help regarding copyright, and Doki, Matara, Mint and others have shown that the none of it really matters all that much cuz they've all sprung up well past what they were before leaving the company.

[@Captain_Scrublord]

Bro trying to join the "good boys club" like we don't know what he did😂 And ofc vshojo most likely would accept him since it's free money, but hey, prove me wrong vshojo

[@mushroomexpress3049]

i mean kuro matara michi have always been group even on past life.(not genmate but u know) thats whys 3 of them hired.

[@RatedShadowXrd]

Hex Haywire Graduating Oh no… anyways

[@darkzangetzu005]

I trust Hex as much as I trust a homeless person in downtown LA to take care of my house for a week. Dude a 🐍, probably just got tired of his toxic community who he himself has grown them into(literally most recent drama one fake a suicide for attention & there been infighting as well) with Niji rep he probably thought is best to to leave the company too I doubt the guy will reach any of Ex livers numbers, even Bennet will probably have more viewers, unless VShojo hires him which I really hope they are not that stupid. Vshojo right now is likeable & actually great with most of their livers

[@ArseneaLupin]

I think joining Vshojo (that's if they take him) is not a free pass for him, like people are still holding him responsible for throwing Sayu under the bus and for supporting that stupid black screen stream. If he either goes indie or hoping to get into Vshojo that stuff will stick, here's hoping his trashy fanbase won't stick, but it's likely will. Note that after getting off Niji he doesn't necessarily need to talk about all that stuff, it just would helped in the long run if he said something along the lines of 'being forced by Niji.'

[@BlushyDewdVA]

I will say this: speculating that Hex may be going to Vshojo because he's simply replying to Michi and Kuro doesn't help stop the comments and criticism that people make against Vshojo about only hiring pre-established and recognized talents. It doesn't look good on them when they JUST gave people, old and new, a chance to get in, and the peeps over there, from Zentreya, Ironmouse, Geega, etc. are asking everyone to please don't think that way, and respect the process. Maybe Hex is just replying to them because he doesn't care about what Nijisanji says anymore about their restrictive policies?

[@neutralentr0py]

I think this is definitely a case where taking an emoji and a 5 word tweet and running some speculation about vshojo's next wave is very premature. christ if the allegation that its Zen's mates or any of their mates, theres 15 other indies to jump to before this rando from niji. Or that this time, after all the pissing about they may actually hire some unknowns. I want to say Lando is a much better shout if we're speculating about imminent vshojo debuts.

[@Polifemdom-jd6yy]

Shitting on VShojo seems to be a national sport caused by a single mistake, and people are forgetting how much the company and their members supported so many indies with their help and countless collabs thanks to their freedom.

[@alejandrosolis5637]

Imagine Vshojo hiring more then one person like we could get new indies and maybe some well established friends

[@87axal]

There is absolutely nothing wrong about only letting established talents join. What, other agencies own their talent's whole identity like they are priced cows, but THAT is the problem here? Get your priorities in order.

[@BlushyDewdVA]

@@87axal Not what I'm saying here, please read. Zentreya, Ironmouse, Geega, and other talents at Vshojo have stated that it hurts them when people assume that only pre-established people get into Vshojo, that's why with people speculating that Hex will be getting in RIGHT AFTER applications and auditions were open for Vtubers and streamers of all sizes doesn't help the situation and aggravates it even more. Please read.

[@Ehecatl-Quetzalcoatl]

He huntin for that Vshojo club pass.

[@deckyfiyemonda9893]

Nah... 100% sure that he just played the "Hey I am a nice guy all along" card by pretending he bothered since December.

[@faenethlorhalien]

Someone leaving Niji EN is always good news. Either because they are good people and are gonna be better off out of that company, or because they are garbage and need to be deplatformed.

[@zelhin6744]

I personally dislike how people see niji livers as one-dimensional villains. They're all humans, and frankly, humans are stupid. While there certainly are bad actors, acting as if they all have nefarious intentions at all times is plain idiotic. Hex might have not had good intentions when talking about Sayu, but he could be very well forced or just manipulated enough to do it. Likely only Hex knows. And even if he wasn't and he did it of his own free will, that doesn't mean him looking at Selen's situation and thinking "holy damn this place is worse than I thought" is impossible. Could be a wake up call. Like damn, niji antis are sometimes worse than twitter users in treating humans like humans. Remember that we still know shit about what exactly happened at niji and only graduated livers can say confirm or deny facts - opinion brought to you by a niji anti

[@GenshinLover283]

Imma be honest, a lot of anti Niji people at least to me come off as equally or more unhinged than nijisisters

[@zelhin6744]

@@GenshinLover283 some absolutely. Still doesn't mean they're Saturday cartoon vallains. That's AnyColor's role

[@ikdivina.98]

"I'M LEAVING MY JOB AND HERE'S WHY" Me when I first saw the video: *choked on my drink*

[@roselovers5971]

Wt- i Just notice now... But dude how many people did graduated from nijisanji in this yea??? That's crazy

[@Septemberl4d]

The thing that got me was Punka moving to Idol, when i heard it was Idol of all places i was like "wow punk you couldnt have picked a worse one to go to" now im a little happier that maybe Brave will fix things but im not one hundred percent expecting them to fix everything. But it was weird for her to jump on a sinking ship. Overall i feel the marketing of Idol talent was always lackluster. Pin was the only one i knew of really coz her shorts and clips with her mother and such were so pushed into my eyes on youtube. The rest i have rarely seen ever. Like for the longest time i thought Penrose was a indie.. like seriously it wasn't until the whole artists not being paid thing when i found out she was with Idol!

[@EndoftheBeginning17]

She did the big announcement on stream about brave Group and then she did her graduation announcement. she was going to graduate regardless of the Brave Group acquisitions citing doesn't work well with others and doesn't feel like she belongs in a corporate setting so she's going to hire a manager and go indie. I don't doubt she would do well cause regardless she understands how to get subscribers fast. Her goal is to now hit a million subs by the time she graduates in Nov, and that's just for kicks. Her idea is to get a million subs before graduating and then stream to those million subs afterwards

[@Septemberl4d]

@@EndoftheBeginning17 Why are you even mentioning this? I know about Rins video talking about it why would you say again what she already stated in a video? I was talking about Punkalopi.

[@hinatamercury]

How did you think she was an indie? A lot of her shorts are literally about being a vtuber in an agency

[@Septemberl4d]

@@hinatamercury I mean i only ever seen the shorts of her doing something silly or with her talking about life stuff instead of those garbage infomercials for being a vtuber the second they have that "this is how to do this" stuff on shorts i skip them instantly. So i never really heard her talk about it. The clips i watch are long form and her messing about, not talking about her being a vtuber.

[@serena7710]

If Hex gets into VShojo honestly I don't think I could ever bring myself to support the company going forward from that lmao, not after what he did to Zaion, or all the other stuff he's done like with the ashes etc, absolutely not. He can be an indie lol

[@pastelfriends9727]

What the fuck did he do with ashes??

[@maryam-nusa]

⁠@@pastelfriends9727he made a “joke” about spreading friend’s grandfather’s ashes as a fertilizer to “get a new life” and “joked” about throwing a gold fish in a toilet to see if it would swim back - I guess he was trying to do the classic jokes in the old movies where they would do that BUT it fell so flat and didn’t have a punch line so people started hating him for calling out zaion since he said he was disappointed she said that when he was a SA victim and he talked to her about it - iirc I could be wrong and were calling him a liar with no evidence if he is/isn’t (I don’t like him either but calling a victim a liar is low for anyone tbh)

[@Polifemdom-jd6yy]

Did you assume he has a chance to join vshojo just from a few interactions with two ex-livers? Man, I think you're too emotionally involved to think rationally.

[@houseoftyrell1544]

VShojo would not let him join. Kuro gonna be the only male talent for now cause he got his own fanbase but since most of Vshojo fanbase are male so they gonna focus on female talent. Mousey and many other Vshojo talents and people in power would disapprove since Hex reputation is bad and he seems not closed or friend with people outside of niji to make him known among them.

[@pastelfriends9727]

@@maryam-nusa oh. I mean that’s not that bad I thought he like jacked off with ashes or something Jesus Christ had me worried for a second

[@DracoJ]

I have a strong feeling Hex is going to be a very important character in this situation.

[@maryam-nusa]

Dude I swear if he gets a character development and just exposes niji I’ll actually start supporting him. But I feel like the only way people outside of his community would start to support/forgive him is for him to go against niji but we’ll see

[@DracoJ]

@maryam-nusa the biggest flag to him right now is Sayu. If he has information on that situation that's just about his only saving grace for probably like 70% of anti-nij.

[@maryam-nusa]

@@DracoJ true I think everyone is now looking at sayu and seeing if she’s gonna talk about/to him and I think that would cause some people to back off OR if he reveals he was manipulated into thinking she did something wrong (?) and if they forced him to take on a certain persona then I can kinda see people criticizing him less 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@DracoJ]

@maryam-nusa heIl even he thought she was in the wrong but only realized she was right when selen had her thing happening it would still be progress.

[@MutatedAmerican]

Why do I feel like he applied to Vshojo?

[@MitchJustChill]

Hope not. He's basically the 2nd Vox from everything I've heard of him

[@AceUkiyoGeatsIX]

Nope. They know how much of a scumbag he is to reject him.

[@furbymaster4239]

They got 2 Xs members and some of them are good friends with mint. I'm pretty sure that the higher-ups at VShoujo know his reputation and won't hire him, especially with how Kuro reacted to that tweet.

[@user-cYhjMAHpW]

God forbid. If VShojo allowed him as the new member, that will be their downfall. I guess that Kson will be pissed off to him.

[@ZyphyrBloodveil]

I actually hope not.

[@fishbaitx]

i think he may be misunderstood by way of ninisanji management shittieness and forced speech. you have to ask yourselves did he say stuff or did nijisanji force him to say stuff because i could see nijisanji using those in their graduation queue, forcing speech tweets and other scapegoat actions that paints a story of an awful person or persons who just happens to be graduating as part of an attempt to paint a longer PR narrative of redemption and "oh look we're good guys now, see? we got rid of the evil please raise our stock price" this is a company whose former members are bringing horrific things to light about, what does that say about what lengths they wont go to.

[@hyelun]

I'm really sad to hear that he's graduating, but I completely understand why it's happening at this time. It's bittersweet, but I hope he's okay and that everything works out for him. Graduating can be a big change, but I'm sure he's ready for whatever comes next. I'll miss him, but I know he's moving on to new and exciting opportunities.

[@chaotic-ilusium8363]

I think it's important to keep in mind that just because a Niji liver graduates it doesn't mean they are a good or bad person, in fact, the graduation alone doesn't mean anything in itself.

[@skywiffavery]

I wonder if niji is just allowing them to tweet their niji ex friends bc it’s surprising that both enna and hex did that

[@SadKrozo]

if hex joins vshojo i'll be really disappointed in vshojo for letting a creep join them....

[@Polifemdom-jd6yy]

Nah, it's not that every single interaction translates in hiring someone, especially if that someone is controversial.

[@quinn9074]

I don’t catch up with vtubers much anymore, what happened with him? From what I remember he kinda laid low

[@Dressup_Doll]

@@quinn9074Flushed a friend’s fish and played with his grandfather’s ashes ‘cause he thought it’d be funny. Not to mention, all the downright weird RP’s he’d make.

[@quinn9074]

@@Dressup_Doll Yikes the flushing the friends fish is messed up, I also find playing with ashes disrespectful but with the weird rps literally every vtuber does that at this point 😭 it’s why I quit watching. For example, Vox. Unless the rps were like extra weird and sexual But yeah don’t watch him anyway, I was just confused since people were talking about a situation whose fish was it? Was it a vtubers? That’s sad 😬

[@bababooey7418]

hex is a creep but the one who made pedophilia and rape jokes should be forgiven LMFAOOOO 😭😭

[@TerryBess-n4k]

don't put blame on the livers for supporting elira's stream over what happened with selen tatsuki. think about the history of abuse from companies throughout world history. it's far more likely the vtubers was forced to support the stream or lose their idol career

[@davidjohnson4171]

Ah so they just stood by and watched as a woman who'd already made two attempts was kicked while she was down. Well, doesn't that just make it all better. "I vas just following orders!" didn't fly at Nuremberg and it shouldn't here either.

[@KeebeThePlush]

Things aren’t looking good for niji

[@mikuni-kun5023]

When were they atp

[@ryanc9876]

I don't know. Having someone like Hex leaving your company isn't exactly all that bad to be honest.

[@PROJEKT_R3D]

I feel like having the opportunity to leave a company, keep your IP, and still be able to interact with the people in said company is a massive thing to consider if they won't allow it later on

[@theponygamer66]

I fucking hate how he talks so close to the mic

[@Dria_Ah]

Hes whispering so neighbors won't hear

[@thecoldfront1962]

@@Dria_Ah that and a condition that damages his throat, probably also trying to reduce damage but talking quieter

[@Dria_Ah]

@@thecoldfront1962 i was just joking i didnt know that😔

[@Spiritwonder420]

Why? He has a nice voice

[@Dressup_Doll]

@@Spiritwonder420It can be uncomfortable to have someone speaking so close regardless of if they have a nice voice or not. I’m not OP, but that might be what they mean.

[@KeebeThePlush]

This is insane

[@atmosephire]

so probably he wants to moan harder on ASMR for his incels fans but Niji didnt want that shit

[@ArcaneMaiden]

Dunno man. A few days ago, the stuff Riku blabbered in their investor's meeting coinciding w/ Hex leaving _sounds like an imminent shutdown to me._ ☕

[@SashaYamato]

Lol, seeing hex reply to michie and kuro, i think it's to save face, if he apologize to sayu with begging and kissing her feet than i know that his graduation is the real him

[@chaoticautistic7113]

4:42 it could have, but i think it wasnt a 100% forced. I believe it was Uki who just retweeted Fulgars quote retweet. If you could just do that, than I cant imagine Hex didn't at least somewhat support that message.

[@nightcorelucario2218]

Whatever truth there is to be set free better be worth it. Just saying

[@TylPhumin]

Question, assuming a 6mt prep time before debut is counted, Niji has a 1 year minimum contract. So could it have taken so long in his case (since apparently he thought about it since his debut..) because of the 1y contract? (ofc i believe there is a Q and stuff like that, but ppl never mention the 1y minimum contracts XD)

[@FrarmerFrank]

4:24 Those 2 tweets are awkward machine translations....Hex and Elira are being skin walked.......in fact all those spam retweets were skin walked Happen to be following Mints PL twitter when Elira,Vox,and Ike went missing for 2 hours when on way to vSohjo JP to hang out Enna was worried it was a car accident but the 3 eventually did catch up to rest of group visibly upset (That Black Video wasnt live, it was a recording they forced Elira,Vox,and Ike to do earlier that day) I'm sure I'm not the only one that caught Vox Crude Induendo intended for Dokibird.....which is probably why the 3 got stealth suspended😹

[@kittoesdoesrandomstuff]

road to one rillion here we shouldn't!! (it would be really funny if rin penrose was the first brave group vtuber to get to one million and then just leave in november)

[@Vasharan]

Man, I'm really sad about the idol departures. With Rin, Jun and Fuyo leaving, not a single member of the original idol-EN Gen 1 is left. I still remember their debuts, it would have been two years to the month when they graduate in November 2024. In that time, idol managed to screw up badly, allowing Yuko to be harassed by parasocial fans until she quit, and screwing up Pochi's finances and redebut until she quit as well. On top of a history of not paying artists, contractors and possibly the talents themselves, it's no wonder the remaining members of E-sekai have opted to leave. And the "revenue sharing" for one year to keep their IP was very sneakily left out of the original press statement by their CEO. How bad is the revenue split? They don't say, but it's enough that Fuyo has said she won't be streaming as Fuyo even after leaving to keep her IP. Hopefully those that stay have a more pleasant experience under Brave, especially Lisa and Enya (formerly Lopi), who jumped on board only a couple months before the whole ship sank. It would especially suck if Lisa loses rights to her character which she has retained since her Tsunderia and indie days, it's insane that vtuber companies operate under a system where they have rights to the artist's persona.

[@kaminekoch.7465]

They don't have the rights unless they created the character or the original owner handed the rights over.

[@Vasharan]

@@kaminekoch.7465The artist and rigger don't own the rights either. The corpo usually has the rights to the character despite the likeness being only a very small part of the "character" (just look at the multiple failed attempts to recast Kizuna Ai). They hold the rights hostage to control the actor, which may be legally in the right, but morally wrong, and economically gains the company nothing, since any past attempts to monetize the character without the streamer have usually ended in disaster PR-wise and economically.

[@nofefex]

if i ever see that guy in any vshojo streams i'm out, that guy doesn't deserve anything.

[@hinatamercury]

He just released a new design for his model like last week?....his graduation doesn't seem like its voluntary or planned for months

[@aureleavalon2897]

It reminds me of kyo's graduation, he probably had a lot of stuff planned but really wants to leave the company as soon as possible

[@aureleavalon2897]

Also if it wasn't voluntary we would know bc nijisanji would not have given him a graduation stream, we saw it with yugo and selen

[@Volnas97]

There are also rumors (by schizos on 4chan) that Niji management can use talent's social media profile, so the retweet of that stream could also be management and not Hex

[@AcidUsagi]

Rin, coming in to an agency, buying up all the Blåhaj then leaves.

[@kgniku503]

I see a red door and I want it painted black, no colours anymore, I want them to turn black

[@ThatGirlKim]

I'm so disappointed you didn't share Rin's goal of hitting one mill subs 😂 Honestly my favourite part of that stream/video 😂

[@kerriekermelcatlover7243]

I think that Hex will become the first male member of VAllure IMO.

[@VINMASTER75]

Probably grape ASMR like Vox does 😂

[@S0N0MIY4]

I genuinely think the Elira, Vox, and Ike stream was forced. Some of their top earners they had left who also happened to be really close to Selen so of course those 3 would be the PERFECT candidates for Niji to do that PR nightmare.

[@davidjohnson4171]

So what if it was? The company already had Doki make two attempts, does them standing by and doing nothing suddenly absolve them of wrongdoing? "I vas just following orders," didn't fly in Nuremberg and it shouldn't fly here either.

[@S0N0MIY4]

@@davidjohnson4171 I'm not defending the company at all. But I don't blame the talents because we truly do not know what was held over their heads to conduct a strean of that level. Nijisanji seems to do anything they want when it comes to abusing their talents.

[@davidjohnson4171]

​@@S0N0MIY4 I can tell you what now Niji held, they held their careers, cuz it's the only move Niji has againt them in this situation, anything else ranges from misdemeanor to felony, even in Japan, and that should _never_ be weighed against a human life, each of them's a sack of worthless meat, nothing more. Anyone has the power to stop and say, "No, I will not, this isn't right. Fire me if you have to, but I will not be your scapegoat for what is very much a third attempt at murder!"

[@S0N0MIY4]

@@davidjohnson4171 Elira has a visa that depends on Nijisanji. I personally just don't think we know enough. I think it was shitty of them but I can't fully blame them as their livelihoods depend on this company. Niji has done plenty illegal things but Japan really does not care since EN is full of foreigners. Japan doesn't care about foreigners no matter if they work within Japan or not.

[@davidjohnson4171]

@@S0N0MIY4 I know, but that Visa offers a more than fair window if you're fired to get another job, even if by some miracle she didn't hit the time window, she'd only be deported from Japan, capitol of public transportation fondlings, a staggering amount non-extremist racism, and the one of the worst work cultures outside Sub-Saharan Africa's child slave mines, that's not really a loss. They may have done some illegal things, but I doubt they'd resort to anything should a talent refuse to participate, the only real work-arounds for that lie in the realm of major crimes, conspiring to kidnap, conspiracy to commit murder, and other fun felonies. And while the Japanese themselves might not care the foreign embassies _DEFINITELY_ do. Were I her I'd have made a beeline straight to the American/British (I don't know where she's from) Embassy the second things started to go down, and been on the next plane out. It would not be the first time one's offered aid to a tourist in another land.

[@wawi42]

I thought Brave had done a really good thing however it soured when I heard about the profit sharing. Don't get me wrong, it's ace that they're doing it but still in the original notice and up until this announcement it seemed like they were just handing over th IP. Hearing that money will be changing hands still seems slightly disingenuous still. Hope all the girls do well in the future and RIN FOR 1 MILL!!!!

[@sebuahkapas3784]

leaving because artistic differences is just corporate language xD

[@MACHEW_WingDestiny]

He said that he started thinking about leave on December just for a false narrative and farm the Nijibuff by pretending to support Selen. Absolutely disgusting behavior. Still manipulative as ever

[@AnInconsistentExistence]

One thing I don't understand currently is why people are hating on Hex? First of all, he talked shit about Sayu from what I know but at the same time, he had a reason. Although Sayu was only joking, Sayu's SA jokes offended and made Hex uncomfortable, especially since he's a supposed SA Victim. Jokes doesn't only make people laugh, it can also hurt people unintentionally or intentionally. I'm sure Sayu didn't do it intentionally, but it would still be wrong to think Hex is in the wrong here, both of them are. Second, Hex has never said anything about Selen, it's pretty obvious that management manipulated or forced them to do such thing. Third, idk whatever controversy it was but it was about his community, I don't know much but it is for sure isn't only Hex's fault. It's both his and his fans responsibility to be responsible for the controversy or whatever it was, but just that isn't enough that he deserves to be hated, sure disliked but hate is a different subject. This fan community controversy feels like the Jellybean incident all over again.

[@jawkn]

The words or his: *In the end . The story will be unfold . Nothing will be untold . The silence must be on its own*

[@unattributed1641]

December? There was alot more pomu, nina, mika, etc. Also left and then selen getting fired... he might have looked at everything...

[@harumimaru]

I'm assuming Kotoka gotta be next?

[@A5p3r07h]

Not huge into VTubers, but I can name a few favorites from several stables. Why can't I name a single Niji member?

[@hunnilola]

There’s still like a few good people in nijisanji, but it’s sad they are in this mess

[@mushroomexpress3049]

fulgur is good. he know how to apapreciate game and don't do parasocial stuff.

[@monkeydluffy5054]

I’m still surprised he got leave on his own

[@eikochii7958]

Welp I'll wait for them to become an independent / vshoujo vtuber. Honestly I'm getting too used to Nijisanji Livers graduating by now.

[@jaredvilla4642]

I watch Rin's announcement and Kattarina's announcement

[@ldavis1002]

What i dont understand is if the company knew he was trying to graduate, why did they spend money on him getting a 2nd model?

[@rpchn5698]

Model probably 😊commissioned before December

[@ldavis1002]

@@rpchn5698 oh right! i forgot how long they take to make. ive been working on my own for half a year....yeah that totally makes sense. thanks ☺

[@shinyamada488]

@5:15 Yes Khyo, that is reality in your everyday Eastern corpo

[@KimPossibleShockwave]

Yeah, I thought this months ago, but the EN branch is winding down. Their talents are fleeing a sinking ship, and the ones that'll stay will probably be folded into something smaller or another branch, like we've seen in the past. I think the concert they were going for not selling any real tickets was the final blow. I wouldn't give it another four months max before EN is officially closed.

[@tea_otomo]

Brave is highly based here. Like this is such a good deal, no matter if you stay or leave

[@justanotherwolf9222]

Glad Rin is indie now, she's one of the few vtubers I like since she is just herself.

[@cylesteasunrise3199]

Was wondering why the other video i was watching earlier stopped after 2 min and said privated

[@_spudnick]

i don't see why hex would be going to vshojo instead of going back to his old indie identity. obviously bc corpo has more opportunities and everything but he was very obvious about what his pl was when he came to niji and i think he'd still be successful if he did. either way vshojo nepo company :/

[@mrkosmos9421]

This hex thing is starting to sound like a niji psyop ngl

[@StrawberryMilkFristie]

me and my bestie r EARLY

[@mapplehitoritheartist9114]

RRAT here: he accepted to followw the kuro3ji plot.. just to have a graduation in peace... now that is settled, what are they gonna do? fire him?...

[@plundypops]

If Hex actually joins vshojo it would change from helping out the talented livers that don't deserve to work for a black company to becoming a trash pit that will just allow any garbage to be thrown into it.

[@HaruDaRabbit]

FUCK YEAH ENNA BREAKING THE CYCLE!!! i wont lie, I miss enna so much out of all the livers, enna was my favorite before my boycott of niji

[@corikarask448]

Thank Brave for having a soul still.