The Froot Situation is Crazy

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[@techead23]

Everything bad I’ve heard is just speculations from randos. I’ve seen other people that tried to look for some solid information, but all they found was just posts from random people saying she’s a cheater

[@ColeBlueford]

I'd always only caught a faint whiff of this around the periphery and never really went looking into it further. There are enough vTubers to enjoy, striking one off the list who I never cared about to begin with wasn't much of an ask. Although being able to look at a collab video with Froot in it and not go "eugh" would still be a net positive. (Maybe TrickyWi will be next. Has she had a redemption arc since the ump-tray 'nation tempt-ay tweets?) From what I'm gleaning from these comments (I like to scan the comments on drama videos first to see whether or not I want to even bother watching/listening), it sounds like the hate is actually a self-perpetuating "person BAD" with "source" "do your own research, you'll see" except when you do your own research you either find nothing or more leads which say the same thing, all essentially terminating in nothing at worst and "trust me, bro" at best. I'm starting to see some parallels between the inexplicable hate Froot gets and the inexplicable hate Tectone gets. All he's guilty of is being loud, bald, obnoxious and a bit of a troll (mostly affectionate) and that's a character he plays up for the camera; but some people act like he ate their dog and point at "controversies" to justify their hate, which are all either blown wildly out of proportion (and usually settled), not his fault (and _still_ usually settled/he was vindicated), or entirely fabricated. Still, the snowball has started roll down the hill, so it'll always be able to pick up some more "GRR, T-WORD BAD, BALDY ATE MY DOG" people, just like how there's probably always going to be some more "GRR, FROOT BAD, EVIL WITCH CHEATED ON HER HUSBAND" people.

[@techead23]

@@ColeBlueford People will always hate people for the most ridiculous reasons. Like Ironmouse gets tons of hate and death threats literally just existing. Like when they say she's a horrible person for faking her illness. The brain rot is real in all of these people

[@RWhite_]

Every time I see arguments in favor of her being a cheater, it's always "Well, she's a liar" which, in this case, has the same ring of "It's at least culturally believed to be true".

[@Charley-ju6yg]

Same. I have tried talking to so many people, making so many claims, but no one can provide any proof. I've also heard people say she has a criminal record, which again, absolutely no proof was given from anyone. And her face is public, it shouldn't be that hard to provide if it's there

[@AntonioLopez-z1e]

And Ironmouse KZbin Channel is back I hear the news

[@okami-chan9772]

Way better news 💖

[@AntonioLopez-z1e]

@@okami-chan9772 yeah 👍🏼m Ironmouse and CDawg oh reacted each other that her Channel is back

[@Power-9Hunnid]

Both channels are back indeed.

[@AntonioLopez-z1e]

@@Power-9Hunnid yeah 👍🏼 😄everyone is so happy Ironmouse San KZbin Channel is back.

[@tonyvongola10]

The funniest part of this drama was watching Asmongold put his video about Froot on private for reacting against her

[@MrEvans1]

Wait really?

[@KevinShmelvin]

probably for the best. Even if i don't agree with Froots decision to post that i dont think he should have chimed in on a topic he knew little about.

[@TheMexRAGE]

He basically ended up Sic'd his fans toward her

[@KevinShmelvin]

@@TheMexRAGE i learned of this whole thing from his video

[@QuiteLunacy]

I didn't see it but was it another topic he spoke confidently on while having no idea what he was talking about? He really needs to stop that.

[@z3kr0v74]

I am really not a fan of Froot (I just don’t watch her and don’t fell any interest in her content). When the info about cheating came out for the first time I didn’t pay that much attention to it, not because I don’t care about the dude but because I really think that this story is not for strangers in internet to judge. And also the biggest problem in the story that it connected to that specific online forum, which I can’t really trust. So, for me it looked like dude was a little man that decided to reach attention of angry not so good people from forum. The only part of a story that I could count as a bad one is not giving out the orders or returning the money. After Froot dropped her side of the story I also wasn’t really into it, again, because that level of personal drama is not for internet strangers to judge. I got the point that the dude was also a a bad person in this situation and froot’s “cheating” wasn’t really that awful as dude tried to convince people about. Like, if you tell that it’s over between you and her maybe you should break up and end the marriage. In this whole situation the only people that I have hate towards to are the trollers and little crying right-sided “alphas”. Like why are you saying all this awful disgusting things to people who are friends with Froot and trying to cheer her up? If I was a close friend of Froot I would totally be on her side and write that I am with her - any normal friend would do this if his friend feels bad. And one more thing - people that wrote stuff to Camilla about her mother should really apologise, it’s really not cool to say those things about someone’s parents

[@lord_boneman]

What’s so aggravating is that these people were the same who (rightfully) were calling out the Hogwarts Legacy harassment campaign. Oh but it’s ok when they do it, I guess. People like Triggerpoint and MommaOcco disgust me for this.

[@mostlyblissful6666]

@@lord_boneman Of course! Cause it was only ever about being an anti for vtubers they already didn't like. It was NEVER about the cause. These people are fucking deranged, pure and simple.

[@Izayoii_Hotaru]

Friends also are to criticize theirs friends when they do something that is questionable. All the coddling and protecting isn't as necessary. But also there's a way to go about it other than trying force feed someone, then they'll just end up tuning you out completely. I do understand what you mean but I think shes too protected from her friends and they may not even agrees rhe issues at hand for a number of reasons. It would of been a better to reamin silent on the matter. Then again wanting someone to be okay doesn't really contribute or mean they believe it's alright for cheating to occur. To some degrees not saying anything is just as bad if not worse than saying too much. We only wish we had the wisdom to know the difference

[@ban_droid]

that kind of people are not friends, if you're doing something awfull and your friend cheering you up, they just want you to get more messed up instead of actually make yourself better, find better friends dude

[@EroBotan]

froot's cheating is a super old story, why she bring this up again? the only answer is she need attention

[@muchachowitz6803]

I was predisposed to dislike Froot because of everything I'd heard about her. Now that I've reviewed why people gossip about her... she seems fine? Like... her crime is that she flirted online with someone she was separated and previously declared his full intent to sleep with other women? Even if we ignore the abuse and threats of worse, that doesn't seem like cheating, that seems like moving on from an ended relationship. Am I missing something?

[@abyssreborn4213]

Nope, you're exactly right.

[@P.l.R]

You're not missing much tbh. Many do not condone her cheating and will agree its wrong. Its on a view where many of these people probably just straight out hate Vtubers and want to desperately see their downfall. Some fully ignore it just because "this man is fighting for our country and you're cheating on him?" So him saying he'll sleep with other women because she told him no to the intimate act she was uncomfortable and scared to do is ok?, him threating to game end himself to force her to stay in the marriage is ok?, him being 1000% manipulating, mentally abusive, harming her self esteem, and treating her like property as if he thinks hes entitled to her body is ok??? its beyond screwed up.

[@yeetteey7445]

People also don't like her due to the potter game stuff

[@muchachowitz6803]

@@yeetteey7445 That's always seemed overblown, but I at least understand what people are angry about in that case. This shit just seems like an army of internet weirdos is angry that a kidnapping victim escaped.

[@lord_boneman]

@@muchachowitz6803Welcome to the internet.

[@treelama9077]

A tip from someone who wasn't in a relationship but has common sence, if someone says no it means NO. Don't try to pressure someone into something they clearly don't want. If you REALY are uneasy with their answer then you can throw your relationship into the trash. Do not come with "bUt I lOvE HeR/hIm!!" if you would, you would respect their bounderys.

[@treelama9077]

again, sorry for grammatical errors

[@blindn1nj4]

Yeah, it's just that easy. (When you're a mentally healthy person.) Reality is that people get warped perspective and sense of self worth and do things that outside viewers see as clearly bad ideas. Common sense doesn't really apply to everyone the same way when you don't know how their brains change their world. Try to avoid giving relationship advice when you have no experience in it. Abusive relationships can hold someone prisoner for their entire lives. It's not always "just leave lol".

[@megarotom1590]

Ngl if you’re married in only paper bc your boyfriend threatened if you didn’t and then only didn’t divorce because he made threats if you did, and he’s an abusive piece of work Then that isn’t a relationship so it’s not cheating, there’s no proof of her cheating either so like yah

[@lilylavae321]

Especially if you're one of the many young women(or men, women just much more common) who get rushed into these military "marriages", who then have to fight back not just the spouse, but the local military community that is often the ONLY community you have access to. The length spouses will go to in order to keep the family benefits isn't pretty. It's rare for the local community to support the non military spouse, even if blatant abuse is happening. Maybe I'm biased because I'm an army brat so I've seen this happen to many military spouses, but Froot's version of events seems way more believable and her evidence more credible than any of the "cheating" rrats.

[@bradwhite5884]

Also, technically they ain't properly married, there's no witnesses and we aren't sure if the person who married them is a professional priest or anything, so who knows Sounds like the ex took advantage of a young naive foreign women who finished school or college that lives abroad, have their families turned on them so give them no choice but to move to them, so in other words, he was a dirtbag from the beginning and manipulated someone from the start, so yeah

[@olgagachaphoenix9130]

At least Mouse's VOD and Main YT Channel is back up 👉👈

[@Covet-J]

yAY! :D

[@gh05ti33]

yyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssiirrrrrrrrr

[@Soranlbrahim]

This drama is a complete shitshow.

[@gilessaint-loup2426]

Obviously.

[@Sega_OT]

Yep

[@sawcon5053]

duh.

[@tsugumorihoney2288]

So people bully fer for "cheating" since last year, i guess she just have enough a posted this document...

[@NominDonutz]

Seriouslly, 50% divided. I can't even decide who is in the wrong, like a fog of war here

[@creepx327]

The fact people disregarded the document of abuse and sa just because she’s sinned once is crazy to me

[@lord_boneman]

I have… many emotions about this entire situation. Not just how people don’t read the document or just repeat the cheating rrat; but the thing that gets my blood boiling is people attacking those supporting Froot. Particularly the comments about Camila’s mother and being glad about her leukemia. Hate Froot, whatever. But don’t dare start a harassment campaign like what you claim she was part of.

[@thepossum9396]

Not many know this, but Froot actually came to support Silvervale on her return stream on the 21st of february. She even said that she was glad to see silver feeling better.

[@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935]

As someone that dislikes froot as from her actions as shown to be a bad person, the edit doc only shows what we are leaded to believe is her husband to be abusive, but if anything also shows froot isn't to blame either. We are only getting one side of the sorry an given froots history I'd assume she didn't include everything or excluded her own wrong doings. The cheating this was never my main duslike of froot since these no way to actually prove it. My disliking is from the Nux drama(dudes a prick but tried to do the right thing), throwing silvervale under the bus adding fuel to the already blazing fire that was the hate mob that harrassed silver an Henya(cant remember PL name) and farming social media points to donate to a trans charity but never ended up doing that. All these makes me just have a poor opinion if her, plus its strange she seemed to drop the doc when i guess she got a new revealing model.

[@chaudspieler]

That got my blood boiling!! Camimi is a sweetie and what those losers told her about her Mom got me to EXPLODE in anger!!

[@lord_boneman]

@@chaudspieler Doesn’t matter if Camila’s sweet or not, she and her mother didn’t deserve to get the shit people have flung at them period. Like… who takes pleasure in knowing someone has leukemia? What kinda monster does that? If you hate Froot, whatever block & move on. But to hate that much, whoever did that I hope they’re aware their parents failed them.

[@oneprez]

​@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935So basically you don't know anything about the situation but just believe the first thing you see? First off the harassment campaign was just poor phrasing on her part and she didn't have any malicious intent. Second of all the donation thing was cancelled due to said charity being outted as a scam.

[@raderelcaroman1403]

Are these people really seting up a list of people that support froot to harass? As far as i can tell, her actions, proven or not, does not warrant this kind of behavior.

[@Spontaneousanonymous000]

Tell that to the people that NEARLY got away with destroying Ironmouse’s KZbin channels, and everyone of her friends and fans, including Connor, hearing about it-Anonymous VTuber Fan

[@jitteryjared5338]

Many of the people against the hogwarts legacy harassment campaign are now setting up a harassment campaign. What a shocker

[@raderelcaroman1403]

@@Spontaneousanonymous000 yeah this was also awful, i'm glad she got her channels back, as long as the copyright system remains this bad this will happrn again unfortunately.

[@eneart6251]

​@@raderelcaroman1403 look up Camila

[@palitodequeso1234]

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the people who are doing that shit is the same that attack mouse's channels, as a way to get to Vshojo for hosting Froot.

[@5223142]

At this point, I’m convinced the Froot case is started to be a targeted harassment campaign. I asked for proof that she cheated cause it’s been all hearsay to me at this point, and someone sent me a link to a Reddit post that involved this document, showing how the cheating allegations weren’t adding up with what was in the document. Then a comment showed how the dates didn’t line up either. Is it cheating when you message someone on discord a month after a break up?

[@mezeporta]

@@5223142 nope but they'll ignore that

[@alexandergonyea4642]

Preach. That's one hundred percent my entire stance on this, as well. The fact that people actually have the audacity to go, "sure, she was abused, BUT-!" is actually heinous. Like, no, there is no "but" in this discussion, and people are just blindly hating her because of some petty drama, and their biggest piece of ammunition against her, the cheating scandal, was about as flimsy as wet cardboard beforehand, but now has even less defense now that we know her husband was an abusive waste of human garbage.

[@maiwaifu8746]

I've dug into this for a few days the only thing that seems proven is she sexted cinna sometime after the husband left her but they were still married and talking. The last text was her texting cinna that she's getting back with her husband after he asked if she's leading him on. He told the husband about the sexting sometime after that. The texts of her husband pressuring her for sex acts seem to have a 3 month ish gap near the end of Jan I think it was. Mind you ant hime the one who released this information was caught by false eye leaking maybe ai/deep fake nudes of froot as well.

[@maiwaifu8746]

Her story is the same as when she first responded when her husband threw the cheating aligations out there other then the mention of her texting a guy and her husband telling her he cheated on his ex wife too when he took her back.

[@1337foxs]

I've never gotten anyone to ever link me to the proof. I'm convinced they've never seen it either.

[@mskittygemma]

This document is painful to read as someone who is currently being abused by another family member (I am getting help to moving out) I just hope that Froot is feeling much better after putting out all of that.

[@lucky4d725]

Hope everything turns out better for you mate.

[@RocketRacer2142]

Best of luck to you. I've been stuck in abusive situation before myself, it sucked ass, so I and can only hope that you'll get out of this bind soon!

[@JJ_ExMachina]

Best of luck to you and be safe. Good on you for getting help.

[@oddforoddssake3751]

As messy as this is (Yes cheating is still bad, but lemme tell ya, mental abuse is SO much worse, I pray that it never escalated to anything physical...), there could have been some potential as a means to clear the air about the Hogwarts Legacy issue. Y'know, since old bones are being dug up, so to speak. If worded right (with, preferably, an apology put in), she could have gotten her side of the story explained. The whole thing absolutely did not need to happen, it was just another Twitter firestorm about issues that are, frankly, beyond most people's control, if you ask me. Hell, Silvervale might have stuck around and Pikamee might not have had to graduate (wishful thinking, I know, but I believe there's a world out there where this was possible). This could have been turned into a widescale apology for the things she has done, but hey. The fates weren't written as such, I suppose. And why the heck did Kson's tweet get taken down? I felt like her thoughts reciprocated what needed to be said. The Vshojo top brass must've wanted less fuel on the fire, I suppose, so they can handle it internally without having to focus on controlling the angry Twitter mob, I suppose.

[@duneblythe]

Froot did nothing to apologize for. She had a valid opinion about playing that game. She didn't harass anyone. Pikamee was planning to graduate before the drama, when her contract was up. You lost a month of streams, but she'd been planning to join vshojo for the better connections and support. Froot did nothing to hurt Pikamee, and they're literally friends now. Silvervale played a controversial game and riled up a bunch of transphobes with her crocodile tears. She was always a snake, just ask her former friends that she abandoned when Vshojo made her famous.

[@cesariojpn]

Betting KSon was censored by VShojo brass to either not add fuel to the fire or Froot is more senior in VShojo, so she gets "special treatment."

[@CakeSaidChokity]

Say she did “cheat”. What could’ve happened is that her ex was consistently if not constantly talking about cheating on her. Depending how how that built up or made her feel. It could’ve translated as it’s not too terrible for her to try to find comfort as well. If one singular person causes you to have depression bad enough for you to hallucinate, then it can be hard not to want to seek comfort (that could’ve not been cheating/platonic). But also remember, he controlled her quite well. If she was afk for too long then she’d have an abysmal time. So who knows if she even had time or the ability to do that. Just my uneducated opinion. I don’t condone cheating it sucks big time, but when you’re being abused and the controller expects no consequences for cheating then maybe it is okay in a younger mind. I don’t think she cheated though.

[@Spiral6066]

I dont get it where is the evidence Froot cheated at all? It feels like until this is proven people are just jumping on her for a flimsy unproven reasopn. And yet even if it was true I would say it is not cheating if it means getting away from an abuser, its escaping.

[@BreathlessBreathing]

There's a claim from her abuser that she cheated, he provided screenshots of - pretty obviously faked - discord conversations where she was flirting with someone else.

[@jitteryjared5338]

@@Spiral6066 she said she had inappropriate messages with someone on discord after her husband threatened suicide and cheating for sex. Thats the cheating, not even close to what he did.

[@Khosichilla]

Froot has never truly denied that she did cheat, she's mostly just danced around the topic instead of addressing it properly, hence why people are so confident in believing it

[@jonel3596]

This drama is literally years old, only the few insane creeps keep the links and screenshots of that shit this long, but she has admitted to it and there was proof, more legit shit than just some discord screen shots. You will have to look it up yourself though

[@Boubba]

@@Khosichilla She absolutely denied it in her original facebook response. Quoting said post (leaving the ex name out): "**ex** is making out that I had slept with another man. -I did not-"

[@darkenopsia]

Her ex literally pulled a "If I cant have you nobody will" 💀

[@Boredum]

Even IF Froot had cheated on her ex (which HAS NOT been proven). IF someone's partner is unapologetically domestically abusive, whether physically or mentally. To the point in where their partner threatens or has made an attempt on their life. I couldn't give a single fuck if they cheat.

[@echofnoiseechofnoise3888]

sure one side story tell side make me look good

[@Boredum]

@@echofnoiseechofnoise3888 Word soup

[@quan2913]

Proof or this is a trust woman above all else? Video, image, text?

[@echofnoiseechofnoise3888]

@@Boredum sorry i am not english speaker native try speak two tongue and write is not easy buddy

[@echofnoiseechofnoise3888]

@@quan2913 that problem trust woman lead false accus too jail them we learn fake that men dont get any of time back

[@joeramsay6269]

Cheating is wrong, but i have 0 respect for abusers, I have a couple family members who were in abusive relationships, so I’m more inclined to believe Froot in regards to that

[@TENthe10th]

Amen to that.

[@PanAndProud]

This right here. I also think cheating is deplorable, HOWEVER, I always make an exception when it comes to abusive relationships. Trying to calmly communicate with an abusive partner about breaking up will only lead to something negative. Because of this, honestly the only thing you can do is cheat in order to get out of there.

[@RikisX]

Believe Froot about what? She didn't say, that she didn't cheated. Even if her ex is abuser, that doesn't mean she is not cheated. Or you saying, that you believe that her ex is manipulative and abusive? I mean everyone can see messages and is it obvious. Nobody claiming that she photoshoped messages.

[@Petrosssssss]

​@@PanAndProud Просто уйди из дома и больше не держи связь с человеком. Если ты изменяешь и потом возвращаешься к человеку это намного хуже, чем насилие

[@Johnnyfreshlake]

this woman stole from charity lmao

[@mostlyblissful6666]

Let me get this right. Dude wanted to try r-play, right? Basically CNC. But Froot wanted nothing to do with it and was wildly uncomfortable about, right? Who could blame her, given what both parties are pretending is happening. So, dude doesn't get to live out his questionable fantasies, cause Froot sets that very clear boundary, and his first idea is to... throw a fucking temper tantrum and threated suicide, cheating, and withholding love and affection from her? And there are people out there who are deadass claiming that her line about her maintaining her bodily autonomy is actually her trying to excuse the supposed cheating that happened, and NOT her putting her foot down telling this creep no??? My fucking blood is boiling, oh my GOD fuck these people!

[@Phantomcrustacean]

I’m so exhausted by this, this is why i stayed quiet and not commented on anything about this. Yeah, i liked some comments and i sure as hell regret that now and feel like a total dickhead. For Christ sake, she’s an abuse victim, can we not, can we really just not? It’s especially shit for me since i have family that have been through similar, If I had the money, I would donate to her to apologize directly. It’s just so fucked man….

[@ShmuggumsMcGee]

Not a fan of Froot but I read the whole document myself and I'm inclined to believe her. All the situations she described fit perfectly with the patterns of abuse by a raging narcissist. It's not really something you can make up unless you know what narcissistic abuse is like. Glad she got out of it.

[@KevinShmelvin]

This didn't need to be public. She has already moved on from that situation so why bring it up out of the blue at this point. That's the most puzzling thing about all of this. These kind of documents only work as a response to something not as the opening of the discussion. Why now? Did i miss something This remind me of blizzard writing which character is gay to hide some upcoming scandal. Who wakes up and goes on main to write: Hey guys i was abused! I can't even criticise people that say this is just farming pity points cause this is what it feels like.

[@ThatHawksSimp]

The fact that she was 19 as well and he mentions being previously divorced makes me believe he is A LOT older than her as well. Snatched her up when she was freshly legal then married her a year later.

[@ThatHawksSimp]

@@KevinShmelvinbecause she’s still getting shit about it and her relationship with this man when from this it’s clear she saw herself as a prisoner and not a partner or wife. She was trapped in that relationship

[@Izayoii_Hotaru]

​@ThatHawksSimp this all feels like a sob story tbh. It may or may not take away the fact that she might of been sa'd however this isn't something you simply release to the public for pity points. These are literally the last things you wish to tell a audience

[@KevinShmelvin]

@@ThatHawksSimp No one that i know came up with a document or made a video about this situation and forced her to respond. That would have been ok since that would be in defense of herself. I myself would know a thing about her previous scandals if not for the document. I was confused? Why did she write this. i looked if someone had made a video recently but the most recent video that talks about her cheating was months ago maybe a year. Also from what i read she didn't address any of the points about cheating or the whole merch problem but just went :Guys! I was abused.

[@TheThingsEphemeraReads]

Its crazy i havent seen a single document or anything to back up the cheating claim. I get that she was shitty during the hogwarts legacy thing, which pissed me off, but woman posts proof of this dude's abuse and people are insanely taking the side of the dude??? He said he would cheat on her because she didnt want to do some stuff. He showed basically no emotion when she was assualted either. And if she did cheat, yeah that's terrible but the dude 100x worse.

[@1337foxs]

As far as I'm concerned, if your stuck with an abuser it's not cheating. It's not really a "relationship." It's just one person using another.

[@BobbyReinman]

The sad part about the hogwarts thing is if you look into it like the cheating you find out it was again something blown out of proportion. The often tossed around mistakes statement happened when both her and Silver were online and someone mentioned getting automoded in Silver's chat for the word trans. Obviously it was a mistake from the automod and Froot's statement was in her own chat in regards to that. It's funny how the image you find passed around happens to have the broadcaster symbol cut off almost like the knew people would misinterpret that. Everyone constantly talking about any Froot drama all seem to be people taking random things they heard as fact with no one who was actually there chiming in.

[@JJ_ExMachina]

Yep the Hogwatz drama is also misleading and misconstrued as well. I was in both streams that day and Silver was getting very upset about the attacks. Froot found out and went to see if she was ok and to help is she could. Froot ended up getting attacked. Her comment "i love all my friends everyone makes mistakes its only human" was a reply to someone in the chat (long story short Froot ended up muting her mic after getting upset and crying because she was trying to defend Silver and told a story about her brother (whos in the LGBT community) and the things she said to him when they were younger) Unfortunately it's clipped out of context and not shown with the comment she was actually replying too. It is shown in videos with a comment someone made about Silver, instead of the one that was talking about her brother. Froot said later in another stream she her comment was about what she was saying on stream and NOT against Silver. She was saying she messed up in her past with her brother and that she loves her friends and wants to be there for her friends but can't because of all the threats people are doing. Thank you for your time and hope this helps add context to things.

[@omega40k]

I love how cheating is somehow worse for than being abused for some people. WTF?!

[@Duamerthrax]

It's very telling about the sort of character they are.

[@jaidora]

or backstabbing your friends

[@reddithirumuri5479]

They're both bad but she had to do it to get way from the bigger evil so I don't think much ill will should be held for her

[@REMME1998]

Isn’t cheating abuse?

[@omega40k]

@@REMME1998 No. Not by any logic is cheating abuse. You hilariously lame troll. lol

[@RefreshingMirage]

What is some people’s problem? I can’t believe what’s in these messages

[@echofnoiseechofnoise3888]

because you are blind sweetie you want believe but too many thing dont add up

[@ImPipkinrick]

two sides to every story and there the other side to froot gave their stories a while ago. don't read froot's document and think it's all inclusive or that things weren't intentionally left out. everyone loves to paint themselves the righteous one.

[@santiagovazquezvilarino6791]

I don't want to jump to conclusions, but the messages are in English, so I assume that they are not as accustomed to witnessing this type of violence towards women constantly and in large quantities as here in Latin America or Africa.

[@Banana_Loupe]

Bro that "Suisei" Sound was a Jumpscare

[@unionjakass6589]

Here’s what I’ve gathered There’s zero proof she cheated, her husband wanted a different kind of sex that “everyone was doing” and she wasn’t comfortable with it so he tried to coerce her into these activities (Which means he tried to disregard her consent) He was at the very least verbally abusive if the messages are anything to go off of The post where he claimed she cheated on him was deleted, most likely because it was a lie He threatened to cheat on her because he wasn’t getting what he wanted WestJett and Asmongold both incorrectly reported that her “exercising her rights over her autonomy” meant sleeping around The notion she slept with five other men is a malicious fabrication spread by people who want Froot’s career dead Now I don’t personally like Froot, but in this situation she is a victim of abuse and there’s a lot of negligence when it comes down to reporting the facts

[@Geese17]

finally, someone gets it

[@Boredum]

This.

[@Chr.Monika6469]

Honestly, knowing all the dramas Froot is involved, i started to doubt everything she says. That girl has zero credibility

[@echofnoiseechofnoise3888]

you dint not read 90 page for sure and what prove you have ex is abuse her

[@Boredum]

@@echofnoiseechofnoise3888 "you dint not read 90 page for sure". Guess you must know for sure what this person did with their time. What'd you use, a Magic Orb? Tarot Cards? Were you hiding in their walls?

[@auxtaku3449]

I'm just gonna say this. I have no clue if anything fruit said is true. I have no clue if anything that the boyfriend/husband has said has been true. It's all just hearsay, but if he was being abusive and he was threatening her and then he also threatened to game end himself. Well, let him do it one less bad person in the world.

[@azamonra]

I'm inclined to agree but really the threat of ending himself would be a manipulation tactic not a real thing.

[@Gassygastly]

I'm a froot fan but it's stupid to pick a side. Both sides are shitty and while I've seen people talk about previous drama she has been in it shouldnt give people the right to harass her.

[@azamonra]

Of the two of them, Froot is the only one that stands to suffer financially from this so I'm on her side if only because the ex functionally walked into her place of business and tried to get her fired.

[@abyssreborn4213]

No, it isn't stupid to pick a side when one of them, Froot, is in the right.

[@JoyZofSoRRoW]

​@@abyssreborn4213 two wrongs don't make a right.

[@abyssreborn4213]

@@JoyZofSoRRoW Yes they do. Have you never heard of legal systems?

[@JoyZofSoRRoW]

@@abyssreborn4213 except this is a "relationship" not a level issue. Or at least that we know of. If it isn't it's a good question to ask why it isn't a legal issue if she's making the case for abuse. They both did stupid shit. She should have never walked away from her family, she should have walked away with him when he started making demands & suicidal, she should have broken up with him before going off with other men. In that same light the jackass shouldn't have been a creep, a manipulator and... Well a jackass. So as I said. Two wrongs don't make a right. Hope she heals but you can tell from how she writes this she has a long way to go. The love for her is just as valid as the dislike for her. Hate I don't understand because it's fucking retarded to hate someone who has literally nothing to do with you or your life.

[@dragonqueenniisan4122]

I had a very close friend in an abusive relationship. Cheating on their abusive partner, gave that sense of choice and freedom to break free of the shackles that held them down. They isolate, they break them down, and its horrible to watch happen. Cheating is not something good to do in any relationship, but, sometimes it can be the moment that opens a door to something better. Any bit that gives some one in that situation a taste of self autonomy they didnt have for so long. Was the cheating wrong? Yes. Yes it was. Did it cause a chain of events to free them abuse? It did as well. As all situations, there is more than black and white, use your heads, think with an open heart and mind.

[@maddbunny2770]

Accusation are just accusation, he said she said, the internet IS NOT your therapist or court. People will choose sides and attack each other over accusations. It's too easy for someone to edit DMs and messages to make someone look bad and/or good compared to the other person. I've seen too many people have the lives ruin base by accusations even if the truth gets out, or people side with someone and it turns out they are the villain. I will always stop following both parties after they start do this. Always take anything on the internet with a grain of salt. Also wishing or even joking about ill, threat, or D**th to someone or family member is on the list of shitty people that need their phones and internet taken away from them.

[@Banana_Loupe]

Pls get the Google Docs Darkmode Extension 😭

[@Khyo]

Bet

[@Ivan-hz3dg]

I highly agree with the fact that both sides are not innocent. I just don't understand why people think stuff like this ONLY has 1 good person and 1 bad person. So stupid that people are defending her ex because he was cheated on, so now any abuse and manipulation he does to her is okay just because he was being cheated on? This also goes the other way, she isn't innocent just because he abused her. I do believe in Eye for an Eye but that doesn't make anyone innocent. I may not have been abused of manipulated but if I had the strength to cheat on them, then I probably had the strength to ask for help. Both parties are in the wrong, her ex is definitely worse but I hate the fact that so many vtubers are just dick riding Froot and justify her being abused and manipulated for any bad things she has done.

[@christopherhall619]

Tbf people look at this situation and either think she cheated on him she got what she deserved or he abused her he got what he deserved. Edit: Also people never gonna forgive her for the hogwarts legacy stuff tbh.

[@YukioKokoko]

As someone who was in abusive releationship for over 2 years, the most out of touch thing anyone can say is what you just said. Its never as easy and straightforward as leaving or just asking for help. If it were that easy there wouldnt be DV or abusive releationships. And no, im not excusing cheating. Simply pointing out the flawed and immature thinking you posess.

[@unionjakass6589]

@@Ivan-hz3dg You got proof she cheated?

[@jitteryjared5338]

@@unionjakass6589 the cheating was messages on discord which she admitted to. People blow it out of proportion and say she was banging dudes while he was deployed, a rumor started by him after they broke up. He also already forgave her for it but uses it against her now for pity points, he also admitted to cheating against his previous partner lmao. And considering what he did to her cheating is pretty understandable.

[@andremorr]

We only have her side of a story and she already looks bad

[@Tsuyoshi1345]

This situation is just such a mess, these people just want to dunk on Froot and use the cheating as there "moral highground" same shit basically as with the Hogwarts Legacy situation, which they also love to use cause she threw Silver and Pikamee "under the bus" which imo is also total overblown bullshit and im saying that as someone who played the game itself and as a fan of Silvervale, the whole "everyone makes mistake" thing was just a message in Froots Chat after people came into her stream saying Silver banned the word Trans in her stream which was just a automatic banned word in the higher twitch Automod settings but who cares about facts anymore people just want drama drama drama...

[@pepsilove6306]

exactly, plus Pikame and Froot are friends, there was no ill will there, people are making problems where there was none. did silver deserve to be harassed. No, was it Froots fault? no. literally froots take on the situation translates to "putting forks in electrical outlets hurts." it was blantantly obvious for months before the games release how viewers were going to react.

[@RaNgErs_Rep]

The tweets that froot made around the same time are pretty incriminating. Or shows a level of fence sitting.

[@emirozdemir-wallywest1426]

Imagine you got harassed by a group then your "friend" made a big public announcement about how she supports that group and being complete ally of that group. "Throwing under the buss" is a understatement. That was "Hey i am one of the good guys" virtue signalling. I don't even talking about the charity organization she promote was a pdf file group.

[@SamBluehawk]

@@emirozdemir-wallywest1426 yeah her doing that and the fact that Vshojo didn't do shit like threaten legal action against harassers to protect Silvervale who had to deal with said harassment during the Hogwarts Legacy drama is fucking stupid.

[@FoxerBoxerNaaniwa]

@@pepsilove6306silvervale isn’t stupid. It’s so easy to understand that as the primary IP owner JK Rowling would get money from an officially licensed game, and that she’d use that money to fund anti trans legislation in the UK, so therefore buying and streaming HWL indirectly funds anti trans legislation. Silvervale simply didn’t care and insisted she buy the game and stream it. And then when she got legitimate criticism she did the most cowardly thing possible and conflated the harassment with the criticism and refused to even try and see that she was in the wrong too. Wait no, sorry, the most cowardly thing possible was leaving Vshojo so she could create her own insular echo chamber community so she wouldn’t ever have to confront the possibility of being wrong in anything ever again.

[@K.K.Station]

Going through the document, yeah, that's pretty messed up that her ex did those things. Like WOW, he's actually a piece of trash, and she deserves total support in that The issue now, however, is both the timing and previous stuff that's built up ON TOP of the now well-informed allegations Not that this isnt a good time to air out all the misconceptions about her, but she should follow up by addressing Hogwartz/Silvervale stuff, show proof of her donation to charity, AND keep her mom from flagging false claims/going defense on her behalf It would be a great way to start fresh in a new life chapter. After all, she's still human, so she will make mistakes and at least deserve that chance

[@RXRXRXDB]

What well formed allegations?

[@Khosichilla]

Addressing everything else would definitely help her case a lot

[@K.K.Station]

@RXRXRXDB This document, obviously. We now have the other side of the story, not just his, and add a lot of context to ex claims with a LOT of screenshots that, unless proven otherwise, are pretty bad

[@santiagovazquezvilarino6791]

thanks for pointing out that people are complicated and imperfect rather than a singular, unchanging existence, not many people in the comments have the balls to admit that from what I see.

[@georgekatkus5162]

Froot shouldn't be talking to her mom. Her mother controlled her bank and bank account at the beginning. Not sure if she still does. But her mom also doing things like false flagging and such seems like her mother is controlling. Not just controlling, but forcing Froot to do things that aren't smart. Froot isn't innocent in the scenario with her boyfriend/husband, but she is in the situation with her mother at least

[@perfectdoll]

I suspect that Kson was asked to remove her tweet because of her comment about how she had the right to slap Froot if she found out Froot had cheated. As for Froot's document... Yikes, I empathise deeply with her and she has all of my sympathy for what she went through. This is the first I have heard about the cheating allegations, but if, as some of the comments in the comment section suggests they happened while Froot and her ex was separated... well that ain't cheating. On top of that... Abusive relationship that Froot did not consider herself part of in any meaningful manner. Not cheating.

[@NominDonutz]

Kson is pog, cool girl. But yeah, depress nusagi made a video talking about froot for more information. no confirmations and everything is in gray zone for now

[@G2GIGI177]

I feel like Kson is probably traumatized after being friends with Nazuna/Rushia who cheated and did more than that

[@perfectdoll]

@@G2GIGI177 And she absolutely has the right to be. She does not have the right to threaten violence.

[@G2GIGI177]

@@perfectdoll yeah agreed that was out of line. Especially for a coworker. If any other job your coworker said they had the right to slap you HR would be called.

[@mysticthemanakete]

Ugh, I went through an abusive ex friend/bf using the fact he supported a different person through dealing with the emotional aftermath of instances of SA to guilt trip me over being uncomfortable with the fact he was pushing my own boundaries mentally and emotionally, and being an overall terrible person. Basically I called him out for acting like a dick to his roommate and he essentially implied he’d only stop being a dick around me if he ‘had reason to’ - imply what you will from that statement. 🤢 TL;DR: Don’t date self-described narcissists, unless you’re really that desperate to be Harley Quinn BEFORE she got with Ivy.

[@treelama9077]

Froot:*Explaining that this wasn't a real marrage to begin with, in a logical way* Haters/Twitter weirdos: "ThAt MeAnS yOuR a ChEaTeR"

[@treelama9077]

Sorry if there are grammatical errors, im still learning english to help more people

[@treelama9077]

*and I also don't support cheating! Don't do that shit, pls.

[@lord_boneman]

Yup, that’s the internet for you. It’s honestly so disgusting.

[@darkplayerltd]

One's a cheater (allegedly) and the other is a sociopath. As someone who has been cheated by someone, I don't condone the action of Froot. But as someone who knows a sociopath, I can understand her situation. But two sins doesn't make a good. It's better to let her heal. But hey, reading the comments, I'm glad Ironmouse got her channels back

[@livingglowstick1337]

She didn't cheat tho there was no relationship she was a prisoner

[@QuiteLunacy]

"I don't really like Froot... BUT" Is this Froot the new Pewdiepie or something? It's like people are terrified to admit they like or dislike her. From my cursory glance at what this Froot persons drama is, it seems like she potentially cheated on her husband while he was in the army. I haven't seen any proof of this at all. A husband that seemed to be a piece of garbage that ab*sed her. There is basically no concrete proof either is telling the truth, but at least the doc has better proof. So I will give my opinion nobody cares about or asked for. I would believe this Froot person over the husband simply because the "proof" is stronger for her, plus she has a plethora of seemingly well-liked people talking about her character in a positive light, and the majority of people I see talking about them negatively can't seem to to do so without getting emotional over someone they don't know and raging. This whole thing is barely above a nothing burger IMO. The amount of times I seen "Hogwarts" brought up during my quick search of this was hilarious though😂

[@Osc473]

It's almost comical that these people will go out of their way to provide proof of anything else; but the moment you bring up that they're spreading lies about Froot all they can do is either A: Quadruple down with the lies B: Just accuse you of being a simp. Or C. Both

[@Geese17]

facts

[@unionjakass6589]

@@Osc473 I don’t even like Froot that much and I think these people are totally deluded

[@jitteryjared5338]

you forgot D. bring up hogwarts legacy which is totally unrelated or mention her "track record" which is the same thing just vague (even though I do think she was in the wrong back then)

[@Spontaneousanonymous000]

There’s another option: E. One of froot’s mutuals get axed on one platform (IE Ironmouse’s situation which luckily got resolved) -Anonymous Vtuber Fan

[@unionjakass6589]

@@jitteryjared5338 Froot is generally disliked among the VTuber community for these lies being spread (Which even I believed, ashamed as I am to admit it), the Hogwarts legacy stuff is at best vague because all she did from my recollection is say she’d donate to a trans charity, which she had every right to do

[@chris_dani9816]

The only complaint i have about Froot is the charity thing, i don't think children should be exposed to that kind of stuff, but that's just me. and the fact that she didn't say nor did she show proof of what happened to the money, im inclined to believe that she just took it. The cheating thing, i have seen a supposed sc with messages of her and someone else, but the dates on the messages pointed of if happening after the break up, so idk if she actually did that. The HL i feel like people blew it up out of proportion, it looked bad what she said, but she's good friends with Henya and she was in Silvervale's chat sending support messages after the whole thing happened.

[@hobgoblin9339]

Abuse is abuse regardless of what one partner does to the other. If your partner cheats on you, you leave them and move on, you don’t sit there and just abuse them. Abuse is wrong period.

[@Restless-Crow]

He abused her before she cheated, though, and that's the issue with this. People are ok with the abuse because they hate cheating. I also guarantee it's because they hate her and vshojo.

[@CurryGoatorMutton]

Something as personal as this shouldn’t be on the internet for random strangers to see. It creates what we’re seeing now, chaos. Also people that are harassing people that support Froot are insane. If for some reason that it offends you so much that someone is supporting her, just mute/block them and move on, or better, touch grass.

[@tsugumorihoney2288]

i guess all this s..t started since last year accusations, probably she had enough of this point

[@deadpoolpanda4513]

The same people who hate Froot, hate Skylar from Breaking Bad

[@vdogmguy1]

I dont care if people watch froot's content or not, the insane amount of back lash from people who are.. clearly stupid, is uncalled for. Clearly, they dont see that she went through hell.

[@jimmytsunami5275]

I don’t even know how I should feel about Froot, either she’s worse than Amber Heard or if she was clearly the victim all along and that we refuse to understand her sympathy because of the Hogwarts incident…

[@MonolithicCyanTsunami]

In what world is she worse than amber?

[@Troubleshooter11]

Froot's ex sounds like a really damaged piece of human biomass. I certainly believe that she's been abused and traumatized by her ex. I also think Froot is a shady and controversial character and Vshojo would be better off without her. I hope Froot gets the professional help she clearly needs and finds happiness and a healthy relationship in the future.

[@darkshaman98]

In my opinion they're both disgusting individuals only equalled bye the opinions of people defending either of them, I'm so tired of this whole mess

[@Club_Weeg]

This is a complete shit show but I think its crazy that so many people can't see any reason she shared her story that isn't "Selfish" (in the bad way). If people could use their brains for a minute they'd realize (and she says half of this) that she made this document to inspire other people who are currently suffering under abuse and that its very likely letting this out is one of the final parts of Froot still healing from the trauma because sharing your story publically for some can be a part of the healing process for traumatic stuff like this. 2nd half is me speculating obviously but it seems pretty viable but also the more important part is the first half anyways. I hope people who need the inspiration take charge of their horrible situations in a good way and the stupid backlash of Froot sharing this doesn't scare people from helping themselves or accepting help from others.

[@NominDonutz]

TBH, not much of a different anyways. IDK if it's my nihilistic views but froot showing her post is just her airing her laundries to the public. But if someone got inspired from that? good then, But not much. and probably bring more mess to the public, like what happen to camila

[@YCLCrush]

Sheesh it went on so long to the point forgot it was even talking about froot

[@TheSayk]

Ok so, i did a lot of research to find out if she actually cheated if she is actually in the wrong and what is the truth. Here is what i found: -She married him after being in a relationship with him for 1 year. -She married him when she was 19 and he was 21. -She turned 19 in Nov 2016. -We don't know exactly when she got married. -After getting married he was abusive etc (not physically). -We don't know if he was abusive before the marriage, but it's a maybe. -After around 1 year of being married, Froot was depressed and she cheated, at least emotionally. Context: She was 100% sexting with 1 guy (there are 2-3 screenshots of it) (we don't know if nudes were exchanged) and maybe a 2nd guy as well, but there aren't any screenshots to prove that. The rumor about her cheating on her husband with 5 guys is almost certainty false. (As far as we know, she was sexting on Feb and March 2018) -Important to note: The husband was abusive (not physically) before and after she cheated. He also somehow learned that she cheated and "forgave her", so they stayed together. -They then went on to stay together until at least June 2018 and they 100% had broken up by Sept 2018. My opinion: -It is wrong to cheat, but due to the circumstances, those being that her husband was abusive (not physically) and that she was depressed because of it, i think her cheating isn't that big of a deal. -But one thing i can 100% blame her for, is being stup!d. She married him after 1 year of being in a relationship with him and she didn't leave him when he was abusive and made her depressed. Apart from this controversy though, she has been part of other controversies as well. Personally the controversy that i learned about Froot that made me not like her, was her comment on Silvervale's chat during the Hogwarts Legacy controversy where she typed something along the lines of "I love all my friends even if they make mistakes", referring to Silvervale playing Hogwarts Legacy. She basically threw Silvervale under the bus and Silvervale was also attacked by a whole mob of crazy people from twitter, some time after that. I just can't comprehend why someone would throw their friend and coworker under the bus during a huge controversy and side with the dumb people going after her friend. I mean... i kind of get it. She has a transgender brother (or a brother that is some kind of lgbtq), and she probably just wanted to support that, but again, she is dumb, so she went about it in a very dumb and twisted way. Either way, that is something that i can't forgive.

[@christopherpage2622]

Yes her document is very poorly formatted dates wise as it is not in chronological order and I believe if she had actually addressed the sexting/cheating issue by openly saying I did this after the abuse during this time and I shouldn't have and am sorry and regretful for it then yeah she'd still have detractors but it would be less and I'd actually have a small bit of respect for her if she had been that open

[@voodoo-doll432]

the screenshots were fabrication, by both the abusive husband and ant hime, both have deleted everyting about it because they were lies also the thing with silvervale is about transphobia and jk rowling(through hogwarts legacy) and having a trans brother, all kinds of violence that trans people suffer hits home for her. it isnt a bad thing to defend your own family.

[@charliebaker1427]

​@@christopherpage2622 even as someone who hates cheating, shes not obligated to apologize to complete strangers about any actions she took in a past relationship

[@jordanjaydantheboyschannel2207]

@@voodoo-doll432I know ant hime is a clown but she didn’t delete the video plus people are saying the “cheating” was 8 months after they broke up idk

[@Lazy_Viking]

Why the doc at all? Those that were going on about the cheating were haters that wasn't gonna change no matter what. Sane people had half forgotten about that and most knew the guy was a pos anyway. They only cared about the Wizard drama. By releasing this doc the cheating came back, front and center, in peoples mind. Because it was such a poorly formated mess some interpreted it as a deflection to make her look good. I don't believe that, i think she was in a state of confused meltdown when she wrote it. As for the wizard drama. Just a few days ago i was firmly against Froot but, i don't know, a different picture is beginning to apear. I think she's a very stupid young woman that do not realize the great harm her throw away comments can have and she often acts to impulsive and emotional. Still doesn't exonerate her but now i feel more sympathy then anger.

[@ps4pro668]

Not much I can really say without sounding absolutely horrible, but like others have said, they’re both shitty people. The Ex for the abuse, and Froot for cheating and the Hogwarts stuff.

[@hatcatmoby8893]

All I'm seeing is an abuser and a bunch of victim blamers trying to isolate her again with the so-called allegations.

[@the.ghost.behind.u]

Idk, this is the reason i stay far away from twitter especially vtuber twitter cus the amount of shaming, blaming, trauma dumping, its insane. Did she make some stupid ass decisions, sure. Did she endure a horrible partner, absolutely. Does one excuse the other. Nope. Should ppl be this invested, this divisive, n this angry about it n treating her like absolute shit making her feel obligated to prove something to total strangers, fuck no. Just another case of toxic ass obsessive fans on twitter.

[@johnymicheal3118]

I know a girl who is going thru something similar to what Froot went thru and my mind is more on that guy just needing his face caved in than something like cheating.

[@santiagovazquezvilarino6791]

Yep, a friend of mine made huge sacrifices in his quality of life to support his girlfriend, HUGE in capital letters, and she ended up leaving him. When reading Froot's document I remember how my friend lost almost all contact with his family because of a woman who eventually abandoned him and I think that if the accusations against Froot are true, the husband should be thankful that she didn't beat him up (I'm Latino, here if you do something like that no one is going to care that your wife gives you a well-deserved beating).

[@MaecG_]

As someone who's not really involved in all of this, I read the document out of curiosity, and there's not a single word implying that this girl cheated on her ex-husband. What are people even talking about?

[@Subzearo]

I couldn't believe the amount of vitriol and hate against Froot during this whole thing, and I have to say I was very disappointed in what I saw. I mean for crying out loud... EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES!

[@Insanati]

I don't understand why this even matters. She's not your girlfriend, she's a streamer. What she did in a private relationship years ago in a past life shouldn't be anyone's business. Like what if she did cheat? So what? How does that affect you? It's not like she did some heinous crime and got away with it. It's generally a dick move, but that's about it. The people that appear to be legitimately angry and hateful about this seem to me to be having some psychological issues with detaching themselves from an "online entity" that was never going to seriously engage with them to begin with. She's not going to be your waifu, faithful or otherwise, her fidelity is not your concern.

[@TeeAiDee]

I just don't get why Froot posted this. This was a TERRIBLE idea. It not only brought up old drama for Froot herself, but it dragged down her entire agency and many of the talents associated with said agency. Posting this doc did absolutely nothing positive for anyone.

[@scotthicks1795]

I think I’m siding with Froot on this. I’m not sure exactly what’s going on here. It sounds like he wasn’t successful enough to have both a wife and a mistress like many doctors, dentists, and veterinarians do. He will get his comeuppance when he gets rejected by a prostitute, which is where a guy typically gets the stuff his wife won’t do. You can grow out of stupid to some degree. Might take another 25 years. As for Froot, it sounds like she followed her heart and ended up in captivity. She probably tried to calm him down by agreeing with him under coercion, but coercion generally backfires within 2 to 24 hours with any woman who has a shred of self-esteem. You get a business meeting/counseling session of sorts. But, a wife who can’t make my blood run cold on occasion would be hard for me to take seriously.

[@brazguard3akabg357]

Personally, I find this whole thing ridiculous because whatever is going on with Froot (or just Vtubers in general for that matter) is her business to deal with and no one else's. The fact that there are people getting involved and starting all this drama and attacking her and people who support her is just absurd. And it only seems to be getting more and more toxic by the day.

[@CristianGonzalez-qf2os]

Thx for reading

[@ryanc9876]

I just hope Froot makes better decisions in her future. As it stands, I still won't support her. Maybe I missed something, and please do point it out because I'd rather know than just think I'm right. But, she doesn't seem to take any accountability for her own mistakes and poor actions. It feels like she's just trying to deflect her blame by playing the victim card. She very well probably is a victim, but she's not JUST a victim. It does seem like her ex is a PoS so not much sympathy there for him. If she owned up to the mistakes instead of trying to excuse them, I think I'd feel different. However, that just doesn't seem to be the case. I hope that changes. I still see her as someone who's chasing clout and is disingenuous under a thin veneer until then.

[@NominDonutz]

Same, my opinion too

[@ToisokUWU]

Khyo, this isn't how you play the YT drama game, you need to use the word "wild" instead of crazy

[@Khyo]

Shit you’re right

[@ZeptoZeno]

I don't understand what these kind of docs are supposed to achieve. Twitter is neither a lawyer nor a therapist so nothing will happen aside from the obligatory "sorry this happened to you" spam.

[@XionSteel]

Kind of my thoughts on it. She doesn't owe this to anyone, why is it being aired out for all to see when she knows it'll foster a negative reactions and force others to have to defend her? Not sure if she just wants the attention... Nobody will know i guess.

[@lucky4d725]

She keeps getting harassed because of the cheating accusations. Why do you think she decided to speak publicly about this ?

[@REMME1998]

@@lucky4d725and venting on twitter will definitely convince these people. She’s a public person, she should know you can never convince haters

[@shingshongshamalama]

People choose to speak out on these things sometimes because they're fed up with their side of the story not being told or because they're sick of misinformation? How hard is that to understand?

[@DarkSteiner4]

Well this was A very informative video nice work

[@Micahmancer]

why do people care this much over a strangers life? to the point of harassing people and their supporters online? its fucking exhausting She was abused, then she mightve cheated (i havent seen proof myself so i say "might"). Ok? and? I feel bad for her cuz of the abuse but i do believe there was a better way to deal with it. its complicated. theres no one right answer or opinion for this. people are complicated. and who knows how anyone else would react in her shoes. she had no money of her own, hell he treated her as if her body wasnt her own. i just hope they can cleanly separate from each other and go no contact asap.

[@Keiken0]

One important thing for many was also, that Froot was involved in a lot of other horrible situations, like the Hogwarts Legacy drama or keeping donations meant for charity. I personally didn't even know of any cheating scandal related to her, but I did see some of what she said when Hogwarts Legacy came out, which changed my opinion of her drastically. (and that might also be why Henya is the only Vshojo girl that didn't reply to her, but that's just speculation)

[@FoxerBoxerNaaniwa]

@@Keiken0 Froots take on HWL was absolutely fine. Silvervale is an idiot for not seeing all the negative press about HWL and streaming it anyway. Pikamee/Henya didn’t deserve the harassment because she lives in Japan and it’s understandable that she wouldn’t keep up with stuff like that. But Silvervale absolutely should have understood why she’d deservedly get backlash for streaming HWL

[@SilverNinjatv]

@@FoxerBoxerNaaniwano one deserves to be harassed over playing a video game period. Especially from a cheater.

[@FoxerBoxerNaaniwa]

@@SilverNinjatv Silvervale got genuine criticism and genuine harassment and instead of reflecting on the criticism and ignoring the harassment she had a little pitty party on stream where she cried so that her parasocial psychopathic fanbase would run to her defense

[@luisiana1121]

@@FoxerBoxerNaaniwa Why would anyone "deservedly" get harassed for playing a game you don't like or is somewhat related to someone you don't like? You worry too much about stuff dude you'll get wrinkles and older faster.

[@Duamerthrax]

@@SilverNinjatv Froot wasn't condoning the harassment and if she really cared about that, she wouldn't be associating with Henya. Silvervale didn't deserve the harassment, but there's only so much anyone can do to stop trolls. Did you expect Vshojo to sue everyone on twitter? She made a desiccation to play it on stream. I know a few vtubers who played it on stream and just tanked the harassment.

[@KinotheHedgehog]

Regardless of whether Froot cheated or not, she's still a terrible person who was abused by an equally terrible person. For context, she partook in an targeted harassment campaign against other streamers, (allegedly) stole donations intended for a pro-trans charity, and backstabbed many of her fellow VShojo talents (mostly the ones that ended up leaving for other agencies) and is generally a shitty person all around. Also, this new document stands contradictory to prior claims about her husband that were backed up by her own mother that nothing happened, and some of the screenshots in the document are out of order when examined closely. Until further developments are revealed, this document should be examined with a heavy amount of scrutiny, and being a victim of abuse does not absolve Froot of her shitty behavior in the past. TL;DR Froot's abuse is tragic and unfortunate, but she's still not a good person

[@Zacatexas]

Why and how did this whole thing become public in the 1st place?

[@pepsilove6306]

according to the rumor mill, a really old FB post her ex made.

[@unlimitedquickworks7387]

Exactly

[@jitteryjared5338]

@@Zacatexas her ex husband came forward first to slander her a long time ago and lied and said she slept with a bunch of men while he was deployed with no proof

[@theSapphireAegis]

Didn't she harrass other vtubers for playing Hogwarts Legacy?

[@livingglowstick1337]

No no one can prove she did except she did a charity for her brother with mermaids

[@breezywinter4646]

Froot was in the wrong (if the allegations are true) and the EX was in the wrong I think we can come to that conclusion but two wrongs never make a right. Especially in a situation like this. I hate that people started attacking each other on Twitter from this but it is expected knowing what was replied and all of that stuff. Just a really crappy situation overall luckily I still have the doc open to look at it more on my own.

[@AnimeSquirrel]

I feel like people dont understand that both sides could be true. And that doesn't make either right.

[@livingglowstick1337]

Do abuse is correct in your mind? Ok thrn

[@MutatedAmerican]

So wait, I'm confused... I get the narrative that they are both bad people, though arguably one is much worse and let to the choices of another. However, is there evidence of her cheating? Are they just allegations? Because its hard for me to see them. Some have even said the original post from the ex is gone, so that's questionable in itself. Again, they can both be in the wrong, but unless one has evidence, Im bound to question the accusations.

[@DragonRage40X]

The "proof" that Froot cheated on her Ex is a Discord convo that happened one month after he dumped her. In other words, Froot was single.

[@DaniMartVTen]

Has VShojo come out with a public statement affirming the safety and security of their talent?

[@charliebaker1427]

So asside from the fair psa on signs of abuse in a relationship this works as not really sure why its anyones business or right as complete strangers to judge someones personal relationships. These are real people not characters whos entire life and ego can be mapped out and interrpreted by fans. People out here treating her like shes katerino because of random message board scraps, also frankly people getting so gungho to defend some loser threatening adultery or suicide to fuck a girl in some weird way against her will are wild

[@yasY0L0]

The main person saying she cheated is Ant_hme (hime pronounced) And she edited screenshots, edited clips, has publicly hated Froot (and others) for years for no reason to my knowledge, is racist and condone it in thier discord, targeted others in the past and did something I don't want to say you don't look it up but it's bad People have been targeting Froot for years (as well as others) and it's been a bubbling pot of "alleged this" and "may she did that" This is not just a Froot situation, this is a situation everyone deals with and it seems the wrong voices got to the wrong people. Honestly I want to know who hurt those people who decide to make false allegations and assumptions because wow. (and yes I saw the alleged screenshot and MULTIPLE people proved it was edited, by just zooming in on the image)

[@chrisvighagen]

People who have never been in an abusive situation with family or partners, or even in a workplace, have no idea how it grinds you down and makes you stuck in a fight survival mode which does not help you make rational decisions in how you handle life. Im pretty sure this would not have blown up as much as it did had it not been an election year, there are tons of bad actors using anything they can to force a culture war in to every community online. It’s very very disheartening and has so many people caught in the crossfire.

[@sdgamer1860]

I heard Froot's Ex was in the military and had some form of PTSD. As someone who had a Uncle in the Marines who had PTSD which sadly led to him claiming his own life and his girlfriend's life along with a family member of hers, I know how bad it can get if people don't get the help they really need. I highly doubt this is a case of cheating as it seems Froot's Ex has sadly gone almost Insane. Also for all we know if Froot didn't leave him behind in time there is a good chance her Ex would of done something similar to what i said my Uncle did and claim her life. PTSD can get that bad

[@xsorrowxkingx5051]

There was abuse before, during, and after the military. It's stated in the document that he essentially used her for the benefit of living comfortably in a house that she did not even live in once.

[@Duamerthrax]

You've never met any of these people and are just filling the gaps with things familial to you. Even if the ex has ptsd, it's not froot's responsibility.

[@sdgamer1860]

@@Duamerthrax my family has experienced what happens when a family member's PTSD gets out of control so i know what can happen. If Froot is telling the truth about her Ex then she made a really good call. Also if you never had family members that are Ex-Military with PTSD then don't go around saying you know what it can do

[@Duamerthrax]

@@sdgamer1860 At no point did I say what having a family member with pdst can be like. I said that you don't know froot's ex and are just speculating.

[@sdgamer1860]

@@Duamerthrax If i miss understood what you were saying then sorry. To me it sounds like the Ex is going through PTSD and got really abusive towards Froot because of it

[@Lone_Tsubasa]

Froot has a long track record of being awful so my opinion on her does not change however sad that some believe harassing creators who stand with her will somehow change their stance on it. I mean come on if it is that big of issue stop watching them and supporting simple.

[@yuuuchan8750]

Wait really? What did she do?

[@Geese17]

@@yuuuchan8750 most if not all of it, is just speculation. nothing is ever proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[@Khosichilla]

After it goes on for long enough people start getting fed up with it, and you get left with this

[@Lone_Tsubasa]

⁠​⁠@@yuuuchan8750harassed sliver and pikamee (now Henya) when she played wizard game and has not donated money from a charity event to another after people exposed charity was awful. I probably missed one or two but those are most know about her

[@WackyModder84]

@@yuuuchan8750 She threw Pikamee and Silvervale under the bus for playing Hogwarts Legacy at the time. Among other things, but yeah. lol

[@Mati-kun]

I do not condone or try to justify either infidelity or domestic abuse. Which is worse depends on a person's values, for me both are equally bad. Whether the abuse was a result of the betrayal or vice versa the betrayal was a result of the accumulated frustration and stress caused by the bullying, I am not that deep into the subject so I don't know which came first. I know people in toxic relationships and I understand how hard it is to get out of this mess, but if she saw what a piece of s*** he was, she should have just told him FAQ off and walked away blocking all means of contact.

[@echofnoiseechofnoise3888]

so you are prove of the domestic abuse or i hear say because i cant tell you story leave all bad thing i done too make myself look good

[@azamonra]

If it was that easy to leave an abusive relationship domestic abuse wouldn't be half the problem it is. For me it seems telling that the ex made this all known at all in what seems to me to be an attempt to hurt Froot financially. He had no other reason to bring this to light as far as I can tell.

[@Mati-kun]

​@@azamonra Like I said, I know people in toxic relationships and I see how they struggle, because the other side convince and manipulate them to believe this is how everything works and then they are the only one they need.

[@Mati-kun]

​@@echofnoiseechofnoise3888 I condemn both cheating and domestic abuse. Im just out of the loop because the only VShojo member I pay more attention to is Kson.

[@ChloeKruegerSenpai]

Even Khyo on Twitter hated by Brainrots and listed him along with others beside VShojo like, AmaLee, MerryWeather, Sindri and rest of popular indie VTubers😂😂😂 Cringe Assmong slip his mouth and drag himself in that situation is worse for him than he do to Kurosanji, now he private the video he make😂😂😂

[@txchia]

I don't dislike Froot as a person, never did tbf (i do dislike some of her political stances, but that's all) Her personal life is not for us to meddle in, unless she actively harmed someone. Also, the fact that the cheating became public *might* say something about her ex All in all, one hardly knows the full truth of a situation firsthand, so while y'all should always expect the best of people, you should be careful and be prepared for the worst, and never judge before knowing all details

[@zoegartham312]

My first thought: Kson is based as F for her response. It's a shame that she had to take it down, but I understand why. My second thought: What right do we have to even know about what goes on in another person's private life, let alone judge it? Even public figures have the right to privacy, though we don't always give it to them. I don't know what prompted her to post this document. I don't know IF she cheated or what the circumstances were surrounding that. I won't get into details here, but I have experience with how messy cheating can be. So personally, I'm going to pretend like I never knew anything about this document (which is easy because I haven't looked at it, so I only know the few parts that were shared in this video) and not let it affect my view of or how I treat Froot.

[@raixira]

Hot take, maybe: Cheating on a partner who is abusive doesn't count as cheating.

[@m4x927]

That's still cheating, just understandable. Best approach imo is just leaving the person. If the person is abusive what do you think they'll do if they find out you're cheating on them? You really wanna take that risk?

[@livingglowstick1337]

​@@m4x927 not what happened he constantly threatened her when she wanted to leave and when she was able to be free of him she went on with her life. That wasn't a relationship it was a prison

[@danrend4986]

Bruh! i am not saying she is at fault, but i recall traveling alone and hooking up with guys on the same boat. we went to the bathroom together,, and made sure we got to our hotel rooms ssafe. At one time in SD it got really late and there was no transport, and the group was disbanding and i told them guys could you wait until i get a cab, they stayed until late and even said no worries, if there is no cab to take you, you come with us to our hotel. we as guys were fearful of stuff, and she sleeps on an airport? really? sorrry but it's amazingly difficult for me to grasp anyone doing that!

[@Darklight22]

I think this was all so unnecessary she had no reason to post what she did all it did was pour gas on the fire. The people who already hated her are still gonna hate her and now she just brought some more eyes to the situation. Yeah, the ex is a pos but I'm not gonna say Froot is "brave" like everyone else in the replies we don't know the full story and her ex said to let this go a long time ago its not his fault if people continue to harass her. To me, it sounded like a toxic relationship in general and the ex is not a public figure who can defend himself like Froot is, it's pretty unfair. I don't hate froot but I certainly don't think she's a victim who did nothing wrong.

[@crusixblade2852]

Obviously harassing her isn't okay, but I do not believe a word out of froot's mouth. Silvervale's treatment by froot proves enough, let alone the document's only proofs are easily faked screenshots that read like a bad life time movie villain.

[@sharkiee4992]

She's so brave to just let him off with cheating, any other weak person would gave it in the pressure and either ki!!ed themselves or the guy, I mean imagine your family, hobbies, friends, respect, body, self esteem, everything is taken away from you, how could you live such a miserable life, amd people are mad that she cheated on someone who did all this to her ? Disgusting. I'm with her in this.

[@Peppybead]

Twitter people are weird asf

[@Keithnicity]

I don’t really follow Froot, no hate I just don’t really know much of her work. I didn’t follow this drama from the beginning. But what I will say is, right, wrong, innocent or guilty (and I have no idea where she fits) I just felt gross listening to this document. If she is pressing charges, she should show this to a lawyer. If she needs help she should show her therapist. And I’m not validating or invalidating any of her claims. Because truthfully NONE of us know what really happened and as such it’s not really any of our business. I really think she needs to take a break, heal, figure some things out… but the internet is no place to do this.

[@cesariojpn]

I'm still wondering why she decided to do this infodump now. No controversy right now, no big events, VShojo isn't doing anything big......like, what was the point?

[@Fr.O.G.]

I just don't give a crap about a vtuber's personal life years ago. I don't understand why people are so obsessed with it (mostly Asmongold losers, you'll notice). It's pathetic.

[@yayomax2088]

I don’t really think any side is innocent. But it definitely says more about the community when they’re ok with abuse and violence when the person they hate cheated on a guy. It just sets the precedent that cheating is worse than being an abuser. I just wish she would address the rest of her issues that the community has with her. But for now it’s just a messy situation where truth is just manipulated. (Also if Froot wasn’t openly left leaning she probably wouldn’t be getting as much hate as she does now)

[@UnderTheIceburg]

I agree she may not be subject to as much scruitny if she didn't take a clear political position but she did, and given that most left-leaning people are pretty open in their disappointment that a recent high profile attempt failed, I don't think anybody can be shocked that they aren't automatically getting the benefit of the doubt anymore.

[@chaudspieler]

Kson's tweet being deleted because management forced her to is pretty suspicious of VShojo to do! KSon is forced to delete a tweet while Froot brings up the drama yet again shows there's favoritism in VShojo and it's starting to look like Nijisanji and that's scary

[@lsebastian9086]

Don't even compare Vshojo with Nijisanji yet. Too soon to do that

[@sgtdebones]

​@@lsebastian9086 *YET*

[@rand6282]

I keep seeing the cheating allegations in Twitter but when I ask for proof there is nothing they provide.

[@Kensei007]

This only hurt other Vtubers, especially Camila. Had she not released this, antis wouldn't dogpile her and others and simps wouldn't be hyping it up.

[@dznnah]

I sometimes wonder if there's anyone left who watches Vtubers and isn't in a parasocial relationship with them. People caring about their personal lives is always crazy to me.