Nike Pegasus Trail 5- Road to trail performance

[@SagasuRunning]

Apologies. My audio levels are a bit off in a few places as my mic upgraded it's firmware sometime between my last recording and this one, which changed the audio levels on me. I didn't notice until after I recorded. I tried to level it all out in edit, but there are a few areas that are washed out, especially towards the end. Again, apologies.

[@cbgny23]

I left this comment at the Ginger Runner's review of V5: I've owned these since May and here are a few impressions: - Nike's ATC outsole sucks when you're use to mostly Vibram from either the Zagama 2 or brands who mainly offer Vibram. ATC feels quite stiff and doesn't really bite into he terrain like I was hoping it would. - I can attest the forefoot feels plenty wide, but shallow as Ethan has mentioned. - I find the REAct foam to be plenty bouncy while walking, but kind of flat while running, if that makes any sense. The toe-off is sharp on V5 when compared to other versions, so when you're walking in them, it feels very abrupt. - I haven't noticed any issues with lacing as they feel pretty secure, fit-wise. - I chose the black/white/gray version and I get a lot of compliments on them when walking around town. Had Nike went with Vibram for V5, I think they'd "score" much higher than they do now. As per usual, Nike's proprietary outsole sucks IMO when compared to Vibram. I saw a leak of Nike's trail offerings for SS/2025 and it appears a majority of their trail line will incorporate Vibram, so I hope this is true.

[@SagasuRunning]

While I agree ATC isn't Vibran Megagrip (but what is, it's the best grip in trail, period)...you are NEVER going to see Vibram on the Peg Trail. Nike Trail is reserving Vibram for their race models VERY clearly, where the added cost and grip make sense. Given where Nike Trail outsole material has been the past few generations... ATC is a MAJOR upgrade. On a shoe like the Peg Trail it's perfectly fine. I find toe-off very "Nike" in feel (I made a video in that feel actually) which I like. I can dig off of the big toe and really can feel my grip levels. Again, it's not like a more performance trial shoe, but closer than it should be.

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

@@SagasuRunning Vibram Megagrip is also pretty prone to wear on roads, which wouldn't make sense on a road-to-trail shoe.

[@SagasuRunning]

@RowOfMushyTiT I’ve never had abnormal wear of Vibram Megagrip LiteBase on the road… it wears better than any road outsole I have ised, including Continental

[@ryanrodriguez1234]

Really liked the history segment. Cool and interesting addition to the shoe review genre.

[@SagasuRunning]

Thank you. For a new shoe on the channel I always try to cover its history. Down they for a bunch of others as well. 🤙🏻

[@Luiz27M]

thanks! I've been binging your videos for a couple of days and I love them and I was about to ask you about these shoes in particular, you just read my mind.

[@SagasuRunning]

Welcome and thank you for watching. 🤙🏻

[@landonspain193]

Great video! I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed this shoe too. For me, the Pegasus Trail feels like a friendlier shoe compared to the road version. The lack of air units and softer foam compound really make the shoe feel much more comfortable and cushioned. I put nearly 500 miles into my pair of Peg Trail 4s and am nearly at 200 with my Trail 5s, the vast majority of which have been on the roads because they just feel that good. I'm not a fan of the road version at all, but this shoe provides me with a simple daily trainer that can eat up miles without any discomfort.

[@SagasuRunning]

Interesting. I cannot imagine doing that amount of volume on roads in a trail shoe, even this trail shoe.... OR picking the PT5 over the P41 for road running 🤯. But hey, you found your shoe it seems. They are certainly capable. Enjoy them!

[@Johnnydodgin]

I did a lot of road to trail running in the Peg Trail 3&4, with the Trail 3 being my default running shoe at the time, topping out at 700 miles before the midsole felt dead. They made a really versatile, forgiving shoe for someone who was just starting out on their running journey. 👍🏻

[@SagasuRunning]

Agree. The PT3 was a big hit when it was out for these reasons. It also was the last Peg Trail with a single piece outsole (that could be swapped), I'd like to see that come back.

[@CCRun34]

I'm not much in to Nike these days, but I've stayed truly loyal to the Peg Trail as far as road-to-trail hybrids go. Very comfortable and durable. Also perfect for travels and walking.

[@SagasuRunning]

It’s been an easy shoe to stay loyal too, even with the changes.

[@soulzerosix]

That was a very thorough review, I appreciated the history/background section and the recommendations for the road and trail version of the shoe. I recently got a pair of Peg Trail 4's for road, city parks, mild trails and general dry weather running and I find them spot on for the intended use. I won't run anything technical on them, I have Hoka Speedgoats for "proper" trail running.

[@SagasuRunning]

I'm glad this was interesting and useful. The PT5 is surprisingly capable on "proper" trail running...but yes there are better dedicated performance trail shoes out there.

[@merlincalo6877]

Thanks for the thorough review & history on the Peg Trail. It was fun to learn more about it. I did go the store to try it on. I do like the fit, feel, design, and the upper. The midsole just felt a little to soft and combination with the high drop. It just didn’t feel that protective, and to low to the ground in the forefoot. Also for road there is a lot of rubber on the outsole. For the GTX version the fit and midsole felt different. The midsole felt more firm, protective, and premium with maybe react/ZoomX. The GTX fit is also more snug so would recommend sizing up 1/2 a size. I think the Peg 4 had the air unit in the forefoot, and on paper. I think I prefer that for keeping the midsole from bottoming out in the forefoot over time, more protection & better response. On the flip side, I heard Nike took the Air Zoom unit out on the Peg Trail 5 because people were complaining about hot spots and/or wanted a softer feeling midsole.

[@SagasuRunning]

The PT5 GTX is the same last, but it has a strobel in it that helps to seal the shoe to water and protect the foot from the Gore-tex seams, so it is considerably stiffer (same with the Peg 41 GTX). Both the PT5 & PT5 GTX are ReactX foam only. Nike Removed the Air Zoom units from the Peg Trail series way back in the Peg Trail 2. The PT4 was just React foam, like the two generations before it. There is a lot of rubber on the outsole of the PT5 as it IS a trail shoe, not a road shoe. I can do road to trail but definitely is not a shoe I'd ever recommend for dedicated road running.

[@MyFatAdaptedLife]

21:19 You have some seriously dense jungle foliage and technical trails there in Taiwan. This may explain why you enjoy trail running and reviewing trail shoes.

[@SagasuRunning]

That section specifically is my "california carpet" section, it's the longest and smoothest, least technical section of trail I have...all 40m of it. It's also fall here so the plants are all dying back a bit, you should see it in peak summer.

[@MyFatAdaptedLife]

@@SagasuRunning I can only imagine. You still have me thinking about the Kboix. I think it will be a phenomenal trail shoe, especially if they throw all three removable midsoles in the box.

[@SagasuRunning]

@@MyFatAdaptedLife Agree...it's going to be a game changer for alot of runners. I'm looking forward to getting a pair that fits my foot for sure....

[@MyFatAdaptedLife]

@@SagasuRunning Looking forward to your review of the released pair, with all three midsoles (we hope).

[@MLHunt]

I was going into a sporting goods store to look at shoes for the fall just as this video popped up so I tried it. Nice upper, good lockdown, really like the beaded laces. I didn't find it too soft at all for road to trail, but then I tend to run in higher stack shoes most of the time. I haven't put my foot in a Nike running shoe in several years and the fit was better than I remember, More volume in the toe box than I remember being my main problem with Nike shoes. All in all a pretty good shoe, though there was something about the way the cushioning felt under the ball of the foot that put me off a bit.

[@SagasuRunning]

Ya, the Peg Trail 5 is the most "un-Nike fit" of any Nike shoe I can think of lately, besides the Ultrafly. I'm glad this worked out for you. Enjoy them!

[@MrDalemami]

Nice vid. There indeed was a non goretex peg 36 trail, I had a pair, was a great shoe.

[@SagasuRunning]

Ya, comments are telling me that. I have zero recollection of them...which is blowing my mind. I remember most Nike running shoes well into the 90s...at least the models I ran in...and I ran in these. 🤯

[@RJ-hi5pw]

I had the Peg 36 trail in red with a black speckled sole (non goretex). I think they must have been a Mont Blanc version. They had the French, Italian and Swiss flags on the heel. Very cool. One of my all time favourite running shoes

[@SagasuRunning]

Ya, others have pointed out there was a non-GTX version...however, I still have no recollection of them, at all, even after Googling...though I did see the version you mentioned above.

[@FtL_CS]

I have a Nike Juniper GORE TEX trail shoe, I find it very slippery on certain concrete surfaces when it's raining (maybe because of the harder rubber used?) when I use them for road running. I am looking for a waterproof running shoe that can be used when raining, this Peg looks tempting but I never go on trails.

[@SagasuRunning]

The Juniper is the budget trial option...it's a cool looking shoe but the materials are not great. it's also using a generic version of whatever awful outsole material Nike Trail used to use...so it's not good at all for grip in anything. I'm not a fan of waterproof running shoes in rain (your feet are going to get wet eventually and waterproof shoes don't drain at all which is a bigger issue) but there Peg Trail 5 comes in a GTX version, with a gaiter on the heel to really keep the water out.

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

6:00 Actually I can buy these online, so they are not just prototypes. I wonder if they run differently?

[@SagasuRunning]

Definitely prototypes. Whatever is for sale online are either pairs stolen during initial testing or fakes.

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

@@SagasuRunning This was a normal online retailer and some colourways for the Peg41 have the prototype midsole tooling. It's weird. I've seen the Ultrafly and Invinvible 4 protos for sale, but those come from Nike Outlet stores and get resold on ebay.

[@rosc2876]

there was a non goretex version of the pegasus 36 trail, I have them both the 36 trail and 36 trail goretex and I have used more the non goretex for running and I found it really good att running on non technical trails and even road running shoe, the 36 goretex more for walking and hiking but I found the sole quite slippery though.

[@rosc2876]

and you may have forgotten the pegasus trail 4 goretex which was actually quite a different shoe from the pegasus trail 4

[@SagasuRunning]

Indeed, others have pointed this out. I have ZERO recollection if that shoe...which is shocking because I remember most Nike running shoes well into the 90s, especially of models I ran a lot in (which i did the PT36) 🤯 (mind blown, quite literally).

[@SagasuRunning]

Nope, didn't forget this as my wife swears by them for hiking. She loves the shoe.

[@shohibwijaya7904]

do you think the soft react foam would still be a good option over longer trail running (more than half marathon distance)?

[@SagasuRunning]

I mean, sure...but there are better options out there for those types of distances. If you are going those distances I'd look at a more performance oriented trail shoe. The PT5 is great, but it's meant to be a bit of an entry level/road-to-trail option.

[@aprichman]

@SagasuRunning I think you might be missing some of the history around the Pegasus Trail. I have a pair of Pegasus 36 Trail that aren’t GTX. The upper appears thicker than a normal Pegasus with some waterproofed areas and the lugs are a little more aggressive but not too many changes outside of that. No giant lugs, no full waterproofed upper, etc. Is this the first Pegasus Trail? I ordered mine in early 2020 but they were on discount as I think the newer version had already launched.

[@SagasuRunning]

There was a Peg 36 Trail non GTX, people have pointed this out in the comments. I have zero recollection of it though. Sounds like you have one of those. The here was also a Peg 36 Sheild back then too, the wet weather standard Peg with the grippy outsole.

[@aprichman]

@ yes I am still holding onto a pair for some reason that I need to get rid of they were great shoes

[@SagasuRunning]

That they were. I must of had a pair of non GTX Peg Trail 36s, I had every Nike model that you… I just don’t remember them. But I know the 36 GTX was excellent.

[@timothychan4566]

There was a non- goretex upper for the trail 36...

[@SagasuRunning]

I just googled it…. I have zero recollection of those colorways or the existence of that shoe in anyway. Absolutely no memory, at all. 🤯 I’m speechless actually.

[@caseysmith544]

@@SagasuRunning It was harder to find like many road to trail shoes of that era, you could not find the non gortex shoes that easy always sold out for regular runners running on crappy roads that may have glass on them.

[@Chungdol]

I think the Zegama 2 is one of the biggest hits that Nike Trail landed, but I have heard its not that good on road to trail. I have the Zegama 1 and its my favorit Nike Trail shoe... The Kiger 9 is also good... solid shoe you cant do much wrong. Ultrafly my biggest regret ever... but I think its the usecase. For the very very hilly regions here its not good... but for the rest it seems amazing. The Pegasus Trail series I never tried. But to me it sounds like a better Kiger9

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

I have all these shoes and yeah the Peg Trail 5 is basically a more comfortable and cushioned Kiger 9. However it loses some ground feel and is worse on technical trails as the midsole is softer. I prefer them over the Zegama 2 - that shoe feels very clunky vs. version 1 and fit is worse too.

[@SagasuRunning]

Let's put it this way on the Zegama 2. A few Nike Trial pros have raced the Zegama 2 on trail...but when it comes to road or hard sections they have been switching to the Alphafly 3... so that pretty much explains it. The idea of a big mushy shoe is very unappealing for me...especially for trail use. The Nike Trail line is this; - Juniper = Budget option - Peg Trail = Road to trail/entry level - Wildhorse = All rounder trainer - Kiger = Short (sub 50k) racing/technical trail - Zegama = Ultra racing (long) - Ultrafly = Ultra racing (speed)

[@SagasuRunning]

💯

[@ivankar7324]

In runrepeat web stated that the trail 5 is wider than the pegasus 41. i am wearing an us 10 brooks ghost 15, do you think i need to size half size up for the trail 5?

[@SagasuRunning]

I don’t find it wider at all, in fit and outsole contact patch (it’s 7mm narrower by my measurement). I wear TTS (US size 9) in the Peg41, PT5 and G15.

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

Looks like they skipped the Wildhorse 9?

[@SagasuRunning]

I guess. Nike Trail had some major release issues last generation. The PT4 came out very early. We waited forever for the Kiger 9, which was very late and the Wildhorse was always a myth... We will see what actually launches in April 2025.

[@caseysmith544]

@@SagasuRunning I think Nike will not do a new Kiger model next year keeping the 9 as the model so both can be on the same cycle.

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

@@caseysmith544 We saw the products teased already and both are v10. So I think rather the Wildhorse 9 is the skipped model.

[@citizendan6390]

IMHO The Peg Trail 5 is the best overall daily. (walking, running, trail walking, light hiking)

[@SagasuRunning]

You definitely can’t go wrong with it for any of that. It’s a definite “weekender” shoe.

[@citizendan6390]

@@SagasuRunning 3 of my running friends returned the peg 41 for the trail 5's. all said the peg trail felt softer and better competed with alternative shoes from other brands.

[@SagasuRunning]

@citizendan6390 I greatly prefer the Peg41, in every way. For casual wear and running.

[@citizendan6390]

@ this is why I find sneakers fascinating. ❤️💪

[@SagasuRunning]

Same! Same! 🤙🏻

[@fane2233]

hmm peg trail 5 or zegama? hard choice :D

[@SagasuRunning]

Zegama 2 for a serious trail running, for the Vibram outsole alone….

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

Peg trail 5 is a super fun and comfortable shoe - don't miss it. The Zegama 2 is a bit more specialized into Ultra running in moderate terrain.

[@cheezbomber]

Agreed on the Vibram outsole, BUT... overall the feel of the Peg Trail 5 is just a flat out winner. For me, at least, the Zegama upper (maybe because of the gaiter?) doesn't feel quite as nice. And for me, the ZoomX midsole just feels too cushy. I did buy one on a decent online discount to try against the Peg, but returned it after a quick step-in. Give it a try, but I think the Zegama is a love it or hate it feel, whereas the PT5 seems to be loved by many for different reasons. Granted, the only knock against the PT5 is the sole (Nike ATC, obviously not as impressive as Vibram), but the overall combo seems to be a winner. My impression is that Zegama lovers either like high stack, high cushion shoes in general, or they plan to do very long rocky trails that need that extra cushion.

[@SagasuRunning]

Agree with this. The Zegama 2 is a very different shoe, for a very different runner. Hard to compare them. I’ll take the PT5 over it any day though….

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

@@cheezbomber Ye, the Zegama 2 has morphed in a Hoka - It's big, soft and clunky and people apparently love that.

[@phillipnunya6793]

If you had issues with the Pegasus Trail 4, you could have done a video about that. Not every video has to be positive.

[@SagasuRunning]

I had issue with all of the last generation Nike Trail uppers, including the Ultrafly… absolute brutal on my feet. To the point where I couldn’t even wear the PT4 or K9 casually without pain. So I didn’t run in them enough to be able to review either.

[@phillipnunya6793]

@ That’s okay. If something sucks for you so much you can’t even complete your testing, then make a video saying so. You don’t have to finish testing it if you gave up on it. Just tell it how it is.

[@SagasuRunning]

… and I do. But I also didn’t really buy either shoe for the purpose of a review. This was early in the channel so they were more casual shoes for me and more for general wear and some travel/hikes. Also at the time I wasn’t yet sure o even wanted to review trail shoes…. A lot has change in 18 months on this channel. Now-a-days I would make a video on them.

[@alb.1911]

[@SagasuRunning]

👋🏻

[@LND_Ben]

Just got in from running my first ultra in these 52km… no complaints 🫡

[@SagasuRunning]

Nice. Congrats! This one is a surprisingly capable shoe. 💪🏻