Nike Zoom Fly 6 vs Hoka Mach X2: Which super-trainer comes out on top?

[@johnrose4590]

I’m going to say it now after the last few video drops.. I listen to quite a few running shoe review channels and hands down Nick is the best and most informative shoe reviewer out there! I got the Mach X2 following his reviews and if you’re lucky like me on the heel, then it’s an amazing shoe.

[@TheRunTesters]

Thanks very much, appreciate it!

[@RohanHammett]

Yep, Nick is a fantastic reviewer and I really appreciate his assessments of new shoes. The other reviewer worth watching for detailed, real run-tested reviews is Yowana. Make sure you have lots of time when you watch, as his reviews are long vlogs, but they’re incredibly informative and entertaining. The community and shoe marketplace he’s set up on his Supwell app is also excellent!

[@peter7371]

He and Tom are amazing

[@Curt-o8h]

Agree! When you find a reviewer that has the same taste as you it's helpful! The shoes he loves are the same ones I do, and same for the ones he doesn't love.

[@napnap5094]

Yep he’s the best

[@emceenz]

Recently got the ZF6, have ran in them a few times now, with a 21.1km run @ 3:47min/km and found them very smooth and comfortable. They're deceptively fast too - checked a few of my splits during the run today and was surprised at the pace vs my perceived effort. At this rate, they will definitely become one of, if not, my favourite super trainer that I've owned! Very happy with my purchase!

[@TomCantu-q2x]

I have both and you absolutely nailed it. Well done.

[@simonwatson8391]

Mach X2 for the win for me. Never had any issues with heal and that sole, foam and rocker is just immensely fun

[@joandomar1]

Muy buena review,felicitaciones !! Esperando a Papá Noel que vendrá con mi Zoom Fly 6 !! Tienes mi like !!

[@markandrews1]

I have the ZF6 and I'm really enjoying the shoe so far-it's definitely capable on faster paces. However, after watching the review, I had to order the Mach X2. I've been looking for a shoe for interval training and I want that extra speed🚀

[@chriscrowe6172]

Hey Nick, any issues with ZF6 and being a heel striker, the cut off at the back looks sharper than most these days and doesn't look that suited for heel striking?

[@TheRunTesters]

No problems I've noticed as a heel striker

[@chriscrowe6172]

@@TheRunTesters good to know, thanks for the quick response.

[@Freebird65]

Im a forefoot striker, love all my other nikes. Can't wait till My mileage is up on my other trainers so I can order this one. 🤞 Do you think it is suitable for forefoot strikers also?

[@kaprikornian1]

If there's anyone I thought would have problems with Mach X2 heel it would be Nick haha. That was surprising!

[@Rockondevil]

Got the zoom flys but they’re for Xmas from my kid. Can’t ruin the Santa thing yet. I just want to try them already haha.

[@bale6532]

it’s on sale rn for 130$ on NIKE app after 25% off!!

[@Devildog81]

@@bale6532only the pink ones color way

[@andyp2544]

The two shoes I'm trying to decide between for my next purchase. I'm a heel striker and can blow through a shoes heal rubber in a month or two,, wondering which shoe between these two would offer better durability outersole wise?

[@plantwateringcitizen8787]

Yes, as a stubborn heel striker myself I know what you mean when it comes to destroying shoe heels in a month or two. Truly, I've come to believe that the amount of hard rubber doesn't really tell you that much. The Rincon 2, supposedly one the worst shoes ever durability-wise, with an outsole consisting largely of exposed EVA, turned out lasting hundreds of km's more than any other shoe i've had. Why, I don't know, perhaps it's because the turn over in that shoe is so fast that you don't have much time to put stress on the heel. Bottom line: it's really tricky and I think individual running mechanics matter... a lot.

[@andyp2544]

@plantwateringcitizen8787 well I've got a pair of unused Saucony Kinvara Pro's sitting on the floor in my bedroom, been a little reluctant to use them due to the fact that they don't have any rubber at all on the sole,, shouldn't have purchased them at all but they were a good deal at the time, will be interesting to see how they go. Best shoe I've had lately have been to pair of Puma Velocity Nitro 3's, which probably have 500 or so kilometres in them and are still going strong, also run in a pair of Adidas Boston 12's, which did around 350km before the rubber on the outside heel was through to the foam, had a pair of Saucony Endorphin Speed 3's, they only lasted maybe 300km before the heal was worn through. Have a lot more luck with my trail shoes, got maybe 1000km out of a pair of Salomon S/Lab Ultra 3's, still use them now if my trail run involves a bit of road running along the way, guess that's one of the advantages of running on dirt, your shoes just don't wear out nearly as quickly.

[@plantwateringcitizen8787]

@@andyp2544 100% "durability science' (if there's such a thing) there's something really counterintuitive to it. I do very very little trail running but I'm with you there, I've had these Mafate Speed 2 for the longest time, they appear to be indestructible!

[@i.p2088]

I have the Mach X2 in wide. Amazing shoe.

[@ronmadrid6605]

So im planning to get a wide also. I'm normally a 10.5 but I usually go 11 or 11.5. Which should I get for the wide option, is 11 enough or should I pick 11.5? Thanks :)

[@germorg]

@@ronmadrid6605 I’m usually UK 10.5 in most shoes and went for 11 wide - it’s a great fit

[@ronmadrid6605]

@@germorg Hi. Ok got it :) Last question, did you experience any heel issue as well? Thanks

[@Devildog81]

Do they fit true to size or should I go half size up?

[@jsksia2902]

What about expected reliability?

[@MrFrescocotone]

Why most of nike shoes have 8 or 10mm drops? They shoukd really propose 4 and 6mm drops as well!

[@Cryptopaja]

Absolutely agree, that’s I use Hoka 5mm drop 👍👍

[@isacv2182]

Your experience on Asics Magic Speed 4 is missing in comparison.

[@Navanirunz]

Ultimately, the Mach X2 has such a crappy fit on me that the ZF6 would be the winner on that alone. However, I have actually also been really enjoying the ZF6, so it does win on merit as well as fit for me.

[@Devildog81]

Is the ZF6 true to size ?

[@jsksia2902]

What about expected reliability?