Nightwish "Perfume Of The Timeless" Reaction

Discussing the new Nightwish song "Perfume Of The Timeless"
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[@Vdrum1010]

Discovering 'Nemo' back in middle school was a life-changing experience, not going to lie.

[@StonerWeeb]

Dark Chest of Wonders for me but I feel ya

[@nietzscheente1271]

Their cover of phantom of the opera for me.

[@piero_ce]

For me, Ghost Love Score

[@Heavymetal16]

yeah i cant remember how old i was when it came out... but holy fck Nemo has a special place in my nostalgic heart

[@Amanda-nq6mw]

Me too! 🤘

[@danimaljenkins]

This is what I imagine Elizabeth Zharoff's daydreams are like.

[@DANILOAMATE]

As I lay Dying Dropped New Song, @Nik Reaction Plis 🤪

[@Soupy101]

@@DANILOAMATEcame here to say the same thing !!

[@KingSzili]

So funny the second comment I see is about Elizabeth Zharoff, she really made an impression with her reactions hasn't she lol

[@mpk6664]

@@KingSzili We all love Elizabeth! lol

[@athosaegon]

ghost love score live at wacken 2013 superiority

[@Hirijinitus]

This is the OG.

[@smokjeCH]

HE NEEDS TO DO THIS!

[@quebecforce111]

yes its the most reacted song in the history of youtube all kind of music.

[@sovokentertainment1458]

@@quebecforce111i think that it is one of the songs that started whole metal reaction trend

[@Ninja785]

Dude..... absolutely!

[@MayaConner16]

Nightwish isn't really my kind of metal either, but it would get old very quickly watching 80% of Nik's chat automatically hating anything that isn't metalcore or loaded with breakdowns.

[@narcissus79]

yeah, they're a bunch of annoying whingers sometimes.. they aren't a very diverse music listening group of people are they?

[@dukemeisterr7084]

the chat definitely shows why a lot of non-metal fans hate metal, just because you don't vibe with the genre doesn't mean you should disrespect the art of it. Bunch of kids.

[@rapture1990]

100%

[@ChrisPage68]

👍 True. Nik needs to aim for an older audience.

[@dukemeisterr7084]

@@ChrisPage68 not really, the audience just needs to be more mature and learn that not everything is about them.

[@nyanuwu4209]

So...Why do a lot of non-metal fans hate metal? You didn't actually say that part at all.

[@thetej1098]

@@dukemeisterr7084 expecting that from core kids who hog down the same old formulaic bass boosted 808 breakdowns? Lower your expectations fam

[@drumaticpageofmusic4148]

*sees the title* “Mmm… now we’re talkin’.” - The Joker

[@jamestynes5019]

This chat is so impatient. Either wait or mute bro, HE’S clearly listening

[@ShaneT5S]

'tis the TikTok generation. If it's not content right here, right now then they yell to hurry up. Shouting "fast forward" and "losing my attention quickly" like the intro of the song isn't actually the intro of the song. These people aren't used to songs or videos longer than 10 seconds

[@Lyktstolpe0898]

@@ShaneT5SYea that ”fast forward” comment almost made my blood boil for a sec:)❤

[@RockBandRS]

Imagine if he listened to "The Greatest Show on Earth" on stream, he'd have to put Subway Surfers on the side for his chat.

[@MATCHLESS93]

people who grew up on grindcore.

[@Lyktstolpe0898]

@@RockBandRS Yes hehe

[@matthewjoy475]

I feel like a lot of metahleads go through a symphonic/folk metal phase at some point. I still dabble in it from time to time, and Nightwish is one of the GOATed bands in the space even if I'm not always in the mood for the vibe.

[@lens_hunter]

Along with power metal, they are my preferred genres. It seems like a lot of people deem these genres as simple gateways to metalcore only, lol.

[@matthewjoy475]

@@lens_hunter Which is awesome! Metal is such a huge and diverse genre that everyone is going to find their own niche that speaks to them which is cool. Core-kids and symphonic metal enthusiasts should intermingle more than they already do.

[@Cerrydwenn]

ITS NOT A PHASE MOM 🤣

[@aricski2899]

I'm kind of the opposite of Nik here. I started with metalcore and stuff, then found Children of Bodom, and have been into more melodic/power/symphonic metal ever since haha

[@matthewjoy475]

@@aricski2899 That's great. Bodom is fantastic. I've been digging a lot of progressive/melodic death metal recently. I only really started listening to "metalcore" in the last few years, I was a prog/folk fan through college.

[@aricski2899]

Wow Nik finally did a video on Power/Symphonic Metal!! My favorite genre for sure so this is cool to see!

[@Duck_Sevendust]

I'm not the biggest nightwish fan but when their music gets dark and heavy its pretty solid.

[@k4mson449]

Exactly, it's not like they can't produce good songs, but the folk part in their music is just not my thing.

[@XTREAMER3850]

Maybe on the first albums with Tarja. The next ones... not the same to a total trash.

[@k4mson449]

@@XTREAMER3850 First albums with Tarja are trash, "Once" is their best tho.

[@XTREAMER3850]

@k4mson449 I listened to "Oceanborn" until "Once". After that, not really.

[@sponthemon]

Reading some chat messages is so weird because it feels like people are judging it as a metalcore song, which yeah it'd be a terrible metalcore song because it's not metalcore

[@evilemuempire9550]

The dude who asked if that was the only heavy part 😂. Like metal is more than just 1s and 0s and sometimes it’s just nice to have some melodic riffs.

[@the_seer_0421]

​@@evilemuempire9550most core fans don't seem to realize that there is more to metal than screaming and breakdowns.

[@michaelbryan5910]

god twitch chat is absolute cancer. hating on it after 90 seconds of a 8 minute song lol

[@narcissus79]

To go full boomer - "Kids these days.." 🤷‍♂

[@patpatpat]

in 2011 I played a show in houston with this band in a bar to like 12 people. We didn't believe that they were so much bigger overseas until they told/showed us. Nice dudes.

[@Kenkatsu17]

They did a show in Manila to less than 1000 people right after a sold out stadium in Japan the night before. They didn't give us any less of a performance. They really do love their fans. Unfortunately I missed the meet and greet I spent my entire bonus on because of fucking traffic.

[@shoobeedoowah5452]

@@Kenkatsu17 I’m glad you got to see them live but it sucks how you missed the meet & greet 😭

[@Kenkatsu17]

@@shoobeedoowah5452 I KNOWWW I was practically crying to the staff to at least pass something along to get signed but no luck. The show was so worth it though. To think I almost missed it entirely because the promoters barely advertised the new date after it got rescheduled.

[@lucreziatrevellyan5499]

Thanks for doing Nightwish! I hope the fans are playing nice in the comments. I’d love it if you did more from them. I’m a fan of the metal you normally feature, but I huge fan of Nightwish too! Metal heads have evolved some in the last 2 decades that I’ve been a part of the community. But the more open minded the community becomes the more interesting the music we get is. Which we’re starting to see in bands like Sleep Token. Keep up with featuring diverse bands!

[@ab72_s]

I have always ADORED Symphonic Metal. Nightwish and Ghost - they always have been on repeat when I am always in the highest highs of my life. But, when I’m on the lowest lows, I have Metallica, Linkin Park, and Bring Me to hold me. For Anger - Cannibal Corpse, Dying Fetus, Death Decline, Lorna Shore, and all the blegh and screaming bands. And Rammstein is in the mix with other stuff that I didn’t mention. Metal is good, Metal is my life. And it is bcz of Metal that I’m a Doctor now, got the news three days ago, that your man will have his graduation after three months! Life’s good, God’s good!

[@YumiVanherck]

Dude, that's amazing! Congrats on becoming a doctor.

[@XTREAMER3850]

Rammstein is mostly Neue Deutsche Härte, as a matter of fact, they combine with some industrial metal, nu metal, alternative metal, gothic metal, and even symphonic metal. "Mein Herz Brennt" has some symphonic metal touch.

[@bogdanisari4365]

I REDISCOVERED Nightwish a few months ago and I'm amazed

[@johngoepel5263]

My guy trying to collect every single fan of every genre and subgenre of metal.

[@esaedvik]

Good, that's what fun metal things are.

[@StonerWeeb]

Bleghèmon! Gotta Break Em All Down! I'll see myself out

[@lekalla]

Nothing wrong with that👍 and Nik liked it which means he is actually intelligent lol

[@STR8L8CED]

Naw, he will never delve into stoner/doom. He can't handle it.

[@nandolorris8128]

@@STR8L8CED yup

[@lunethias]

A lot of orchestral/symphonic bands are heavily inspired/definitely attempting to copy Nightwish and their presence. Tuomas' masterful and brilliance of composition will never be matched. It's pure artistry, poetry in human introspection and connection. Every album is a story.

[@d-docnemesis7925]

Also that movie they had going on a couple years ago was... feel free to fill something in because I have no idea where to even start explaining but it was pretty cool.

[@MrFearlesskiller]

never be matched lol sure

[@avaught20]

Nice try Nightwish agent.

[@jani14jani]

Imaginareum is one of the best concept albums ever made for real.

[@XTREAMER3850]

​@@avaught20Ha ha ha ✋🏻✋🏻

[@undead.rising]

The Poet and The Pendulum probably has the heaviest breakdown in the middle, followed by The Greatest Show On Earth (their longest song at 24 minutes) which has an epic breakdown halfway through. Tribal from their 2020 album has a breakdown in in that I would almost describe as industrial metal, although I could be completely wrong. As a gay guy, it seems to be very common that gay guys like Nightwish. The only way that I'm different is that although I do love the ballads, I love the heaviest parts so much more. EDIT FOR CLARIFICATION: many people seem to like Nightwish because the operatic vocals make it "not metal" enough to pass as not being a metalhead, because so many people still see some sort of stigma against the whole metal scene.

[@nikosv95]

That's an interesting statement. What would you say causes this connection between this band and homosexuality? Is it the ballads and softer sound , or the overall symphonic style ? Also, is it just with nightwish or symphonic metal in general ? ( no ill intentions, i am just genuinely curious...)

[@deed5811]

I would consider Master Passion Greed to be their heaviest song, but they don't perform it live.

[@Zombieberry27]

Tribal on their last album has a killer breakdown

[@ShatroGames]

as a pansexual guy that makes sense, I'm just not gay enough to like Nightwish 😂 (granted, I had a symphonic metal phase 15 years ago)

[@nikosv95]

@@ShatroGames do you like any other symphonic bands and only dislike Nightwish? Or is it all of symph metal ?

[@SoDamnMetal]

Glad to see Nik finally acknowledging that symphonic metal is a thing 😁

[@LaughingSkull451]

??? He clearly stated that he used to listen to a lot of Nightwish, Kamelot, Epica, etc.

[@SoDamnMetal]

@@LaughingSkull451 Yeah, and until this video he hasn't made a commentary or talked about it (as far as I know anyway). Somehow I knew someone was going to get tripped up over the meaning of the word "acknowledge". 😆

[@MercuryBPW]

@@SoDamnMetal I don't know man, I think you missed when he made a full Nightwish style song with Elizabeth Zharoff like 9 months ago 😆

[@verdandi5569]

Apparently the mixing "drowning out Floor's vocals" was on purpose. She is the choir. We'll probably get more of Floor's amazing vocals on future singles. I'm having my hopes up for some growling as well!

[@SmokingBirds]

doing something on purpose doesn't make it good though...

[@yuriperez1221]

She was not the choir. The choir is there and you can distiguish one vocal layer from another even though her vocals are, as you say, drowned. If she was in the choir she would be harmonizing with the choir and not singing side by side with it, right?

[@verdandi5569]

@@yuriperez1221 Kai said it himself. Obviously she is also doing vocals on top but it's supposed to be somewhat integrated with the choir.

[@yuriperez1221]

​@@verdandi5569Yeah he said it. But I really think they are just trying to dodge critics of people saying its badly mixed.

[@verdandi5569]

@yuriperez1221 Valid thought. I personally think it's a stylistic choice and there are some discourse among listeners on whether they like it or not. I don't think the mixing is bad, just different.

[@agab.2200]

As a drummer, Kai Hahto, said: the chorus is more like a choir with Floor in it, so she is intentionally not on the top. Not everyone have to liike it, I think is good to see that even when they have this voice, they're able to make it "just" a part o the band and all structure. Vocalist isn't the main part, music is.

[@Cerrydwenn]

Exactly! Glad someone gets it xD

[@harrystarink4425]

Very good explanation 😊😊🙏🙏🤘🤘

[@nietzscheente1271]

This statement just counting for the 'new' nightwish. In the era of tarja music was writen around her vocals, not just as an another instrument. :-)

[@luisebritta6139]

That works if you have a singer whose voice can blend in with a choir. Neither Floor's nor Tarja's voices are cut out to be one among many so Floor's voice doesn't really suit the composition. And this is what I find disappointing because, until now, Tuomas has always managed to write songs that were complementing the voice of the respecitve singer perfectly - Tarja's songs matched her operatic classical style, Annette's songs were more rocky, and Floor can just sing anything. But in the case of this particular song, it feels like Floor's vocals are subordinate to the story he is telling and although it might make perfect sense for the storyline, this simply doesn't work for a singer with Floor's talent, skill, and versatility - at least in my opinion.

[@agab.2200]

@@nietzscheente1271 yes but generally old NW was basically regular band (with great musicians of course) and most of the songs was simple: verse chorus x2 bridge and chorus at the end. I understand that an artistic and poetic mind of Tuomas wanted something more and now he have a lot more pieces to have fun with mature and technically perfect members. But old NW music is thankfully still available and we can listen to both NW bands 😉 I just wanted to clarify that this "issue" with the chorus was intended.

[@Acid_Ink]

@nik: Dunno if you actually read these comments, or if anyone else has stated this, but Nightwish has only gone through 3 female singers. First was Tarja Turunen, then when they did the album Imaginaerum they had Annette Olzon, then when Annette quit the band they brought Floor on.

[@emilyaronoff9340]

I'm a huge Nightwish fan. But Annette did not quit. They let her go, rather unceremoniously. It was not their best moment. I love Floor, and I think she's the best they've had. But they did Annette dirty.

[@undead.rising]

Their one song that is closest to your genre would be Master Passion Greed, which features Marko exclusively on vocals. It is arguably also their heaviest (and the whole way through too).

[@ACGmusic0117]

Floor growls in Yours Is An Empty Hope

[@yuugur666]

tbf, thats just a tad older than the 15 years he mentioned lol

[@zvolencan1]

Romanticide, too.

[@l1ar1]

Devil and the deep dark ocean from oceanborn

[@narcissus79]

tbh I find Marko's vocals flat and out of tune a lot of the time. Sometimes I almost wish he wouldn't sing as it ruins the song for me. Floor and Tarja before her are vocal beasts.

[@benedictul]

"In order to be born, you needed... Godzilla?" Epic comedic timing, Sir. I also got the feeling that the vocals are being drowned by the instruments at times. I am cautiously optimistic about the full studio release, perhaps it will have better mastering in that sense. Not gonna lie, not a huge fan of this one right off the bat, but, again, cautiously optimistic about the rest of the album. In the 24 years since I've started listening to Nightwish, I haven't found a single album of theirs that I couldn't stand behind.

[@blackfox1320]

The last album was very meh

[@XTREAMER3850]

​​@@blackfox1320The last albums were very meh. Or, from my point of view, trash.

[@blackfox1320]

@@XTREAMER3850 agreed. And if this track is a sign of anything to come, this will be nightwish's worst album yet

[@XTREAMER3850]

@blackfox1320 Worst than the last ones? Nah, maybe as worse as the albums from 2012 starting.

[@lobo_melancolico]

​@@blackfox1320For you. For me, the last two albums are the best ones. Especially because of the lyrics. "The Greatest Show on Earth" is my favorite song of all times.

[@xavorTM]

I had the feeling that the vocal was just part of the instruments, not a separate thing to hear like in most songs.

[@harrystarink4425]

Your'e right 😊😊🙏🙏🤘🤘

[@teedepefanio4974]

Well said.. finally, a fan that doesn't need a music theory class to actually get it...

[@ladywhatsername713]

The voice is always an instrument. There's no need to differentiate it from the others.

[@HallofAmeces]

I'm glad Nic's trying to give it a proper listen. Nightwish is one of those bands that are bigger than life for many, me included. I'm personally not a huge fan of Nik's music taste, which comes down to heavier and heavier breakdowns, going for the shock value. Metal music is much more than that and Nightwish is a great example. Open your mind to new stuff, there are plenty of amazing bands out there that do other than djenty guitars, generic breakdowns etc.

[@josepedroteixeira3120]

So, your recipe to make people open their mind and try out some new genres is to reduce the credibility and value of their preferred genre. Can you spot the hypocrisy?

[@SunRayz3r]

Excuse me, Nik, Mr. Metal man, guy, poser dude, let me explain so you have the understanding, Nightwish is on their 3rd singer, Floor Jansen.

[@lekalla]

Yes, Tarja 1996-2005. Anette 2007-2012. Floor 2012- present. And don't get confused people Floor is a dutch name. I didn't mean floor you are walking on.

[@Mizri1]

I've been a Nightwish fan since 1998 when I was a wee edgy teenager. By now they're kinda like my weird friend who always wants to talk about philosophy or history, but they've been my friend forever and they're solid and brilliant and always there for you. I don't think I could dislike anything they do at this point, even though I might not listen to it on repeat for weeks on end like I used to.

[@madnessoverload7824]

Yoooooo Nik checking out mt favorite band! Personally i love this song, but it's definitely an acquired taste. The storytelling on display is just masterful. It's not really a banger in the metal sense, but it is an experience. And the band has said that the vocals being quiet in the chorus is a deliberate choice, so make of that what you will.

[@Soruwu]

Need Nik to check out Eluveitie if he's getting into the symphonic/folk metal scene. Or if he wants the deathcore with the folk, Mental Cruelty's new album

[@Zombieberry27]

Eluveitie really deserves more love.

[@Soruwu]

Agreed. Their recent single (while, recent as in 2022) was really good. "Aidus" has been on my repeat list for over a year now

[@vincentfalcone9218]

@@Soruwu Nik would love Aidus.

[@andreah948]

or Epica. Why is nobody talking about them and how great they are? Also much heavier than Nightwish.

[@nicod1361]

NIK to be honest this while a great studio vid is not the best way to be reintroduced to NW which is always best LIVE , their masterpiece Ghost Love Score -Wacken 2013 is the YT sensation thats the most reacted to performance ever as NW is also the most reacted to band, I highly recommend if want to see what the hype is with this band & their 3rd & final vocalist Floor Jansen go with Ghost Love Score -Wacken 29013 Official Live , cheers

[@viktor1599]

Bro no way i just talked with my colleague about his fav band Nightwish and listened to them the first time, the same day Nik drops a Video about them thats crazy

[@ShadowFlame420]

this is a new song and their first in a while, probably why people are talking about them

[@drew_blanco_]

This is honestly so rad to see. I don't listen to symphonic metal too often but still cool to see you listening to it on this. It's a different genre. It's not about chasing the heavy but going along for the ride. Something you put on a go for a drive and just relax.

[@misi24069]

Wacken 2013, nothing else needs to be said

[@blackreaper2343]

End of an Era 2004 is also tied for me also Wembley Arena 2016 is close as well

[@phoenixkingtheo]

I did really like this song and I’m a huge Nightwish fan, but I agree that the mixing of the vocals be the music is off. It’s hard to hear the singing some of the time

[@ryansibley7315]

Nightwish ❤ the once album was a the gateway to everything after for me. They give you the feels not many others can

[@Roderic07]

nightwish had 3 vocalists...Tarja Turunnen, Anette Olzon, and this is Floor Jansen and you are not the only one saying that...my opinion was the same i wish i could hear her more during the chorus...and i heard many say the same

[@Cerrydwenn]

The chorus is supposed to be like a choir. Since Tarja it seems they really dislike single bandmembers being put on a pedestal. Yes, its Tuomas creation, but its a team effort to make the sound come alive. Same reason there arent 5000 guitar solos on an album, eventho Emppu is certainly more than capable. Theyre well aware of her vocal abilities, but its not about that.

[@deed5811]

Nightwish is great in studio, but they blow studio away live. Keep watch for live versions in the future.

[@EricOliveiraSSA]

My Dream: Reunite the 3, with live orchestra. It's like Peter 1, Peter 2 and Peter 3.

[@XTREAMER3850]

Tuomas Holopainen is a genius like I am God. Two totally false statements. He's a moron.

[@stefanl5183]

You left out Marco! The 2 best Nightwish vocalist were Tarja and Marco. Check out some of the old stuff where they harmonize together, and their Phantom of the Opera cover. Tarja and Maro were the magic and sadly it's all gone now. Sure Floor is great too, but she can't carry the band by herself. At this point, she'd be better to start her own solo career, like Tarja and Marco did.

[@Ravenwish1990]

I think Tuomas is now focusing more on artistic expression and seeing what they can do and how far they can go than just making popular metal music. 🤷

[@stefanl5183]

If I wrote a crappy song like this, I'd use an excuse like that as well. It's obvious, their glory days are long gone! Back around 2000-2005 they were great! Nowadays, they're just a bunch of old has been's trying to pad their 401k's before they finally call it quits.

[@anthrazite]

​@stefanl5183 What would you consider good music? Gimme some examples :)

[@stefanl5183]

@@anthrazite Nightwish upto 2005. That was when they were great!

[@Schalimah]

Some people in chat really did not like this ;p I think your usual audience would like Yours is an Empty Hope, Romanticed or Ghost River more.

[@d-docnemesis7925]

At this point my musical taste is just so all over the place I can't even describe it anymore. I started out with Evanescence. My top 3 bands rn are Within Temptation (btw their latest 2 albums go kinda hard ngl), Nightwish and Arch Enemy. I def lean a lot in that whole symphonic/melodic direction but also really enjoy all kinds of different music, especially the heavy type. Relatively recently I got into Face Yourself (mostly through Lorna Shore) and there's also a lot of Spiritbox and Jinjer going on. Jinjer actually got me into the harsh vocals. I also recently discovered that I kinda enjoy rap and especially israeli hip hop. Def never saw that one coming lol. Point is you can enjoy completely different things at the same time and everyone who says different or tries to gatekeep is probably a miserable moron. Other point is, Nightwish is freakin awesome❤

[@rezashojaei9170]

When I look at my metal journey, it feels like I'm Benjamin Button. I started with LP (I remember having One Step Closer on repeat), but was mostly listening to classics like Metallica, Ozzy, Iron Maiden, hell, even Led Zeppline. Then, slowly morphed into symphonic, goth, post, prog, grunge, then doom, death, and black. Now here I am blasting core all day every day.

[@PSZEMKI]

Same

[@uniservicemann3186]

Same. This year however, if been really going back and finding a balance between metal and core. It's perfect

[@rezashojaei9170]

@@uniservicemann3186 Yup, I do that as well. Some days I have some non-core marathons, or even non-metal marathons in general, and IT IS AWESOME.

[@esaedvik]

It's nice to think back to everything you've gone through musically. Mine started with KISS, W.A.S.P., Ozzy, Metallica, Megadeth, Van Halen, Poison, then slowly into power metal like Sonata Arctica and Yngwie Malmsteen, then toooons of electronic music for decades along with some metal and then slowly increasing metal when I got into metalcore in like 2006-7 (All That Remains hit HARD), before and after being in a Synthwave hole for 10 years :D Now very much digging prog, deathcore, melodeath, new metalcore etc. Metal is doing so well nowadays, literally finding new great bands on the daily.

[@rezashojaei9170]

@@esaedvik Couldn't agree more. Thanks to creators like Nik, Ohrion, Metalbrb, and others, I get to discover new artists all the time. Spotify (even though it get a ton of shit) is also really helpful with its Discover Weekly and Daily Playlists.

[@jpdemer5]

Tuomas writes the music, and the band delivers it. If Floor is asked to belt it out, she belts it out. Here, she's been asked to be one of many instruments (the lyrics even specify "Floor Jansen - chorus" when Tuomas wants a choir.) We expect her to soar above the music at any moment, because that's what we're used to (and look forward to.) We'll get that on the album, I'm sure; meanwhile this is very good, and it gets better with every listening: just put away your expectations and let it soak in.

[@HSTPaul]

I've been a big Nightwish fan for years. And this song doesn't disappoint in my opinion. The orchestration and vocals are amazing. And Tuomas once again proving why he's one of my favourite lyricists.

[@kebobs3727]

Yours is an Empty Hope continues to clear new releases

[@Djneko420]

I love nightwish

[@chrisjohnson1387]

You need to react to SepticFlesh for a death metal take on symphonic metal!

[@Witherfall]

Night wish plays huge venues in the USA. Two nights at la Greek theater a couple years ago

[@sordi92]

Wow this is something I thought I’d never see

[@henrihell]

It's kinda sad hearing how that pre-chorus sounds so obviously like a part Marco would've sung, but as he's no longer in the band Floor had to take over. Would've been perfect with his more "haunting" style of singing.

[@Doudoussin]

If you want to check out other Nightwish stuff, the classic Ghost Love Score Live at Wacken 2013 is there for you ! It's usually the go-to first introduction to Nightwish for reacters and it's great for seeing how they are live. If you want to check out other symphonic metal bands, Epica is the other big one, a bit on the heavier side while still having a lot of contrast with soft and pretty melodies. Abyss of Time and The Essence of Silence are probably the best example of that

[@Fluorite-Fox]

RED is also melodic rock

[@phobiaanimations]

As a huge symphonic, industrial metal type of person, this is a treat. Thank you

[@Smibeatz]

i’m telling y’all nightwish is amazing

[@SamBrockmann]

Nightwish's earlier work is, yes. This? No. This is a badly composed and badly mixed.

[@WatermelonCat941]

​@SamBrockmann The mixing is a bit off but saying this is badly composed is an insanely bad take. It's okay to not like the newer, less dark version of Nightwish but this song is so well composed. Lyrically and instrumentally

[@Smibeatz]

@@SamBrockmann i just wish the mix was better they’re song writing is good though

[@Beachgirl1]

@@WatermelonCat941 The lyrics are the same “hail mother gaia” tripe as the last two albums. It seems that Nightwish has chosen to quit Metal…

[@NicholasCorvin]

@@SamBrockmann *Then have fun with Taylor Swift or whatever you like to listen to.....* 👈🏼🔥😈🔥

[@joshfayne3591]

I saw that Floor Jenson (current singer of 151 Nightwish singers) had a band called ReVamp and she screams. Like goes hard growl singing. My Nightwish is that one day Thomas lets her do that just once. 1 song go hard AF and let Floor growl like the Avatar NatGeo sounds calls for

[@Skybolt211]

Check out Yours Is an Empty Hope, Live at Wembley in 2015, she does full on growling in the choruses. Some of the dumber reactors have watched that whole song and thought it was Marco doing the growling... lol

[@ACGmusic0117]

She does growl for Nightwish. She adds them during their live performances (check out Wacken 2013). Their song Yours Is An Empty Hope has Floor growling. Again, that song is best heard live.

[@ACGmusic0117]

@Skybolt211 To be fair, that performance doesn't really focus on her while she's growling. I think the best example of that song is the Rock In Rio one they did in 2015. In that performance, you can definitely tell that she's growling.

[@lekalla]

Did you count all the choir singers too? 😂

[@griffinjg1]

chat is full of dopamine burnouts

[@shyartistry]

I love Nightwish, definitely should check out more of their stuff!

[@XTREAMER3850]

NPC ;)

[@shyartistry]

@@XTREAMER3850 if I'm an npc then you must be ai 😂😉

[@XTREAMER3850]

@shyartistry Calm down, my typical jokes. I mean that Nightwish is history since 2005. The last 5 albums... personally, I found them trash. 😌

[@shyartistry]

@@XTREAMER3850 Well personally my all time favorite album from them was the more recent one, Human : nature

[@XTREAMER3850]

@@shyartistry I hate Nightwish noway. No offence, man, but I'd rather listen to some pop music than to this fake symphonic metal nowadays... That's what I think, and no one can change me! You like it, okay, you don't like it, I don't care!

[@utaazeroth]

The live chat on this ome sucked. Just because there isnt a blegh doesnt mean it sucks people. Its thatrical as hell of a track

[@GalaxyKauri2008Offtopic]

Yeah. If they want Floor with growls they can check After Forever (1995-2009) or ReVamp (2009-2014, where she growls)

[@mac24seven]

Good! About time. Might I suggest Delain. "We are the others" and "April Rain". Their first album "Lucidity" is a bit different than their later stuff, but I like it.

[@ryanhanlon7001]

April Rain is such a great album, and easily Delain's best album and one of my favorite albums all time in all of metal

[@yriaf.tandel8053]

Ahhh what a nice surprise to see nik reacting to Nightwish, the band of my heart and Nik is so funny. 🇧🇷❣️ Apart from the others suggestions of Nightwish songs (that I totally agree with) I suggest you to react to a Brazilian KZbinr that is starting his career in rock/metal. His artistic name is Lvcas. He use to make videos every end of the year transforming that year's hits in metal (on his KZbin channel Lucas Inutilismo) and now he already launched 3 amazing solo songs on his channel called Lvcas. I recommend you listen to "Odisseia". I'm pretty sure you will enjoy it.

[@vir9002]

That was not the sky it was the ocean. Down below some of the deep holes in the oceans, there are pockets of water that are heavier (super saturated with salt and stuff) what makes them heavier than the water above, so it creates a river or lake below the upper water. I am pretty sure that is what we see in this. Usually there is a chunk of clouded water (not very healthy to be going into) that sits just above the underwater rivers/lakes and we saw the diver descending into the cloudy section. If you had only listened to Nightwish with the Original singer, who was very heavy operatic, you may find you like even the older songs as sung by Floor who, is extremely well trained classical but, is very versatile in her range and styles. Every song seems like you are living a tale. heh. Nice reaction!

[@AnttiNurmi-yy3vq]

I complitely agree with your points. Good song, great video, but mixing could be better. Once again we need to wait live recordings, which is shame...

[@andonsea2803]

It was deliberately mixed like this

[@cjpeery]

Why do we have to sub genre ourselves to death. Why can’t we just listen to good music and enjoy it of any and all genres!!!

[@WilliamLevesqueineX]

Newer Nightwish is kinda hit and miss for me, despite Floor being a beast. Kingdom of Heaven by Epica next ?

[@shoobeedoowah5452]

Kingdom of Heaven Parts 1, 2 & 3? 😃

[@Jorgensen99]

Nightwish 10th man down.. Do it Nick.

[@trfmusic902]

The message i got, especially the ending is that humanity will end but nature lives on. Not a fan of the music but the video was amazing

[@sofienbelaid9369]

Nik noc go check out the new as i lay dying

[@yayatpriyatna7326]

Been waiting for this either

[@MattWebster620]

what i was expecting when i saw he uploaded

[@lekalla]

This song is heavy as fudge. And i mean the subject matter mostly. Kids are getting it later in life (not talking about Nik here he did good, very bold to dive in). I have listened this about 120 timea now and i understood long time ago why the chorus is not solo singing but Floor is like a choir leader there and blends in perfectly. This chorus is supposed to be singed together not solo. It's so grand and epic celebration of life.

[@Andy_from_de]

I feel a bit sad for you younglings that are so conditioned to sub 4 minute songs that they can't appreciate a longer buildup and a song taking time to tell its story. Do you also only have quickies when you have snuggle time with your partners?

[@sateentuoksu]

I suppose you didn't notice any humour there, either?

[@nipulkradmsinatagras8293]

*Didn't really felt like 8 minutes to be honest.*

[@lekalla]

That's always a good sign.

[@NotGeri]

I was just thinking how it'd be so funny if Nik checked it out!

[@undead.rising]

There is a channel called Nightwish Arena that goes out of their way to make the vocals more predominant, since as you noticed, Tuomas buries them under so much other sound.

[@RockBandRS]

Toumas isn't the one that did the mixing for this song, it also isn't an issue with other songs.

[@lihavalokki5705]

@@RockBandRS Nah, this was also a problem on a lot of tracks on Endless Forms Most Beautiful. Human/Nature did a bit better job of giving Floor's vocals the attention they deserve, but overall there are more tracks than not in which I'd hope the vocals were mixed a bit louder. Tuomas does not only write the songs but he is also the producer.

[@NicholasCorvin]

*If you want to listen only to Floor, then listen to her solo-album....Sorry, but if I see so called fan-channels producing modified mixes, it's to me like spraying a grafitti over the painting of an artist...I've seen this the last couple years, everybody's been writing mostly about Floor (of course, because she's great) ..., but only Floor....and a bit of Marco......the rest of the band could maybe drop dead...[not just] sometimes I get the feeling that some "fans" wouldn't notice at all, if the music of Nightwish would be exchanged and some "elevator-music" would be played somewhere in the background, as long as Floor sings. It's ridiculous to read the complaining about "Floor's voice is not front and center in the mix", while the collab EP "The Poetic Edda" of DISEMBODIED TYRANT / SYNESTIA gets praises here, there & everywhere, even if all they've done was sampling/covering almost the whole "Winter"-part of Antonio Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons" and built in several breakdowns with added growls/screams to call it "Symphonic Deathcore" and "The EP of 2024".......Tuomas and all the people that were involved in the recording-processes and producing those Nightwish albums have NOT deserved this ungrateful behaviour. Sorry, but this had to be said/written...* 👈🏼🤔🤬

[@undead.rising]

@@NicholasCorvin I don't want to listen to "only Floor," - I don't even think she's sooooo much better than the other vocalists (Tarja and Anette) - my commentary was made purely to point out that lyrics have always been hard to understand in Nightwish songs - so if you want to hear them better, there is a youtube channel for that. Technically I think Marko is the most talented vocalist of the group.

[@lekalla]

I hear the vocals fine and the chorus is meant to be sang in unison with the choir not solo.

[@bogdanisari4365]

I listen on YTmusic and on the song version you can actually hear Floors voice

[@konstantinosntelirabakas7340]

i think the volume of the vocals are perfect. they don't really need to be louder because it feels like this is done on purpose in regards to the theme of the whole song and how we are part of nature, of the grand symphony of life and why should one overpower the other in the symbolism. sure we got the tech to do that nowadays but realistically in an epic moment, epic scene or a storm or battle or something else like that, our weak voices get drowned out by the sounds and "music" of the world and the rest of the "instruments" of life. Things get blended together into this amalgamation of sounds that if you want to listen to the "lyrics" you have to try more. Or kinda like birds singing, the vocals are one group of birds and the rest are also doing their thing and they won't really "let you" hear the lyrics and vocals more, you gotta do that yourself.

[@mateusleon]

13:13 she sings like this because they evoke our union, it is a call to our unity. In the end, the interaction between the diver (any of us) and that school of fish (society, the group) expresses that. We need to rejoice Life again, live and fight for Life together, and stop being separated by social networks, by corporate control, which uses our entire existence. RESISTANCE

[@aeoex3166]

its mainly the youtube video that has floor jansen's voice drowned.

[@verdandi5569]

Petition for Nik to do The Greatest Show On Earth next!

[@bellamy601]

When I was a teenager, we had a catholic priest who taught philosophy and ethics… he was a massive nightwish fan. The guy looked like a Ned Flanders type

[@samcrorie]

The video was like NatGeo or the Science Channel on acid. I liked it. I need to watch that on a big screen TV like its Blue Planet.

[@yuugur666]

As a huge nightwish fan, this is a good song but not among the best. Especially lately, they're mostly a "multiple listens to fully appreciate" kind of band, but even still. If you truly havent listened in like 15 years, there's definitely some songs you actually should listen to though. Yours Is an Empty Hope, Weak Fantasy, Scaretale, and tribal are my main suggestions

[@erichopper3232]

Hello Nik. I am absolutely impressed with your guitar tones. Could you please post a video about what you use to get your metal tones. I am jealous. Your awesome young man.

[@Symptomofsynesthesy]

Song like this teach us that metal music is the perfect genre to talk about the chief systems. The only point about this kind of music is that it is metal, but it also is more then metal; that means that you can like Nightwish even if you don't like other metal groups, but you may not get them if you are a metal-only person. By the way, this song is awesome and Nightwish are one of my favourite band. Really enjoyed this comment. Would love to see more.

[@buddybleeyes]

Man nightwish takes me back, love all of the blehhs - but gotta make room for this stuff 👌👌

[@jjames6990]

I think this is the perfect jumping off point to please listen to Devin Townsend - Genesis. 66Samus did drums on that song (and others) iirc.

[@shoobeedoowah5452]

Hell yeah Hevy Devy! Genesis is one of my favourite songs of his! 😃💗🎵🤘

[@Jiipee81]

They use London Philharmonic Orchestra.

[@zacharyengle4256]

If you want to hear the same vocalist but in a much heavier song, look up "Here's My Hell" by ReVamp. It's got thrash and metalcore elements.

[@Hexagon.Hexagon]

I am so excited for the whole album

[@Dream_scape47]

I literally grow up with this band man... im so glad I got to see every form most beautiful over the years

[@MetalRock92]

This is something that wasn't really on my bingo card, but here we are! 😄

[@Remmy-iq3bs]

Thanks for listening to Nightwish. Fun Metal things

[@redtool]

you don't need that many ancestors if some of your ancestors are the same on a different tree. My dad has the family tree of his surname that ages back 600 years ago and my moms family tree for 300 years. When he made my moms family tree he had 3 occasions where a forefather of one family matched an ancestor of the other family. And we're just from Flanders Belgium. I would like to know how many times this would happen in Alabama family trees.

[@lunethias]

To be fair/honest, older Nightwish certainly went a little harder with their tone. If you want heavier, check out Dark Passion Play. It's sad Marco's gone, but he needed to for mental health reasons. I see so many shitting on Troy but he's always been there and is only recent on vocals.

[@blackfox1320]

Troy clearly influenced their sound and made it more folky and pedestrian. It's just so bland now and Troy and Kai need to go.

[@AnzaShadow]

​@@blackfox1320 Or Tuomas simply moved away from the gothic sound, the "folk" wound fits the nature theme they've had since the 2015 album. They're still pretty heavy if you listen beyond the single releases like Elan. It's okay to like their "new" direction, though. Kai is a beast of a drummer and actually taught Jukka some jazz chops for the song "Slow, Love, Slow". Troy is a fantastic addition to the band as well and has been present during the recording sessions of Imaginaerum if not already on Dark Passion Play.

[@Beachgirl1]

@@blackfox1320 I don’t mind Kai, but Troy has absolutely destroyed Nightwish. I miss Markko and Jukka!!

[@blackfox1320]

@Beachgirl1 jukka had so much energy that is sorely missed. The drums are just so basic now. And it wasn't just Marcos vocals, his bass playing was lightyears ahead of the new guy. The bass in this track is awful

[@Beachgirl1]

@@blackfox1320 Yeah, it’s just not the same. I miss the 2013 Wacken Nightwish.😰

[@zenmaster9195]

Kamelot! One of my most favorite bands on the planet! I just saw them in concert a month ago.

[@cthulhu4411]

Iove the Evolutionary vibe

[@mulchman]

This free diving deep underwater footage is absolutely terrifying.

[@CJ-tj8ge]

Ngl I fully love this style of music. I saw Amaranthe live (nice shout out for them Nik) and they're just such a vibe

[@mattgraham2835]

such an epic song and music video

[@therolando608]

I hope Nik checks out the new Wintersun album when it drops.

[@mr.magicaltouch]

Sleep Theory has been on repeat right now. Would love to see him react to them!

[@federiconoguera1162]

Nightwish is peak melodic stuff. Whether it is their power metal phase, their more goth or symphonic phase, it's really good stuff.

[@Nugge9]

I highly suggest you check out HAKEN. Its amazing, just my favourite band

[@shoobeedoowah5452]

Oh yes - one of my favourite top 5 Prog rock/metal bands! 😃💗🎵🤘