How Good is 3DMakerPro Mole 3D Scanner?

[@nikodembartnik]

Happy new year everyone!

[@GurkiratSingh-up8mk]

happy new year to you too! btw do you have a discord channel?

[@shauntronics]

Happy New year to you too Niko

[@comi496]

Do you know fix for adding grbl to "fake" arduino?

[@xProsek]

I was on a CNC / factory event where were scanners that were really good, but price was a killer for a hobbyst. There were AutoCAD VR too that had blown my mind! I think when more companies will get how to produce nice quality scanners the price will go down so we could put our hands on scanners such as mentioned above. Happy new Year!

[@MegaCadr]

Tell your sponsor that their ad worked. Good to know about the new service :)

[@tomaszbrzeczyszczykiewicz4082]

Hej, jak się cieszę, że Cię subskrybuję, gdyż jako farma drukarek 3D ciągle szukamy dobrego/taniego skanera.

[@uniquedtech255]

mole to dobry skaner, kolega niestety nie bardzo wie co robi.

[@henrymach]

So, the answer is yes. Scanners are still bad

[@nikodembartnik]

It really depends. They are supper easy to use, the accuracy and resolution are really nice. But in my opinion there is only a very small group of people/professions/makers that might need one. It's a very specialized kind of tool that most of us might not need. At the same time for some kind of projects it's a must have that saves a ton of time and make life much easier.

[@PerhapsPh]

It just depends on the price - you can get great systems but you'll have to pay some 10 k$ for it.

[@sierraecho884]

@@PerhapsPhYou can simply use your phone for photogrammetry to archive the same result. You don´t even need an external device, I have done it for years.

[@PerhapsPh]

@@sierraecho884 I doubt you't achive an accuracy of few microns just with your phone ....

[@sierraecho884]

@@PerhapsPh 0.1mm is not a few microns it´s 100 microns. You can archive a few micron accuracy but you will need magnifying lenses and it will take a long time. You can be as accurate as your camera and optics let you be. You can even 3D scan under a microscope, as long as you can take a picture you can scan it. That´s the simple beauty of it. And btw your typical scanners in the 1k-10k range don´t archive a few microns either =)

[@goatpepperherbaltea7895]

Photogrammetry with a high res camera seems to work so much better most the time

[@bujin5455]

I'm sure I'll buy one in the next five to ten years.

[@DTai-kc7es]

Not even into tech . But I'm into you 😂 Just here for your ASMR voice and lovely face. Finished the whole video but no info went into my head. Goddness.

[@CookieCraftMedia]

Ive been building custom 3d printed photography turntables and motorized camera rigs for photogrammetry scans and converison into web assets for years. Its a huge pain in the ass. Linear polarizer filters are insanely helpful in preventing glare with 3d scans. It requires a photography tent with polarized led light inside, polarized 90 degrees against the filter on the camera

[@psygonzo7974]

Nice video, kinda sad to see tho that my iPhone 14 can get basically the same results

[@toyotaboyhatman]

I bought a creality feret scanner (one generation older than the one just released) for $220 a couple months ago. Still not perfect, but for such a cheap price I'm still impressed. Still did a better job than an einscan pro I used to have (which originally sold for $6k). Even though the creality works with a phone, even on a powerful samsung galaxy S20 ultra it still lags a little more than when scanning on a dedicated desktop.

[@thumbjuggler3943]

a small sprinkle of talcum powder on black items can work well, easy enough to get off also.

[@joetkeshub]

Thank you for your honest and complete review Nikodem! Have a great 2024 year my friend.

[@nikodembartnik]

Same to you!

[@ChaosSwissroIl]

I don't get how 3d scanners are still so expensive. You just need two (or more) sensors pointing in the same general direction and a 1-2-3 block to calibrate with. A 100 megapixel CMOS chip is literally $30 and down to like $15 with bulk orders.

[@Teth47]

AFAIK the price is mostly in the software and tuning, not so much the hardware. Fusing all of that sensor input efficiently enough to operate in real-time, while finding and correctly interpreting reference points to maintain positional coherence is a very difficult task, even for modern computers, especially when you consider the bandwidth limitations of a USB port (this device uses USB 2.0, so 450mbps) limiting how much data the software can work with in the first place. A smartphone camera could do 3D scanning with the right software (particularly the multi-cam phones common today), but cramming enough compute into the phone and using the right sensor fusion techniques keeps that from happening quite yet.

[@dawidwilczewski9401]

I bought a Mole from the preorder Event for my small 3d printing Company to be able to Reverse Engineer technical Parts, which did not work out in any way. Way too low accuracy and insanely Bad Software. Ist just not fun to use this Scanner. After a while i picked up a shining3d Einscan sp which gave me everything i wanted from a relatively cheap Scanner. Perfect results from the Go and usable scans. I Love it and i hate the Mole.

[@IPLAYMTG628]

Thanks for the super Video! Your Content is great. Keep the Good Job!!

[@Zmienny]

Can you try Iphone front and back lidar with pro scanners?

[@patrykx4577]

Useful hint: use snow in can to prevent reflecrion in shiny objects

[@Julian-di9gm]

Super kanał!! Jestem w trakcie wybierania kierunków na studia a widzę, że ciekawe rzeczy robisz. Mogę zapytać na jaki uniwersytet chodzisz?

[@nikodembartnik]

Politechnika Śląska

[@Benchiesgoboom]

Yes, especially this scanner! I had one and returned it. Also, I specifically would not do business with 3D Maker as their customer service was terrible to say the least..

[@spgoo1]

@Superfastmatt has shown that talcum powder works well to texture a smooth surface to improve scanning accuracy/success. Although apparently it's a pain to clean off some things

[@thedolenorway]

The combination of limitations and price still make 3D scanners something it is hard to justify if you don't have a lot of money to spend on something that might end up collecting dust in a drawer somewhere.

[@augustvandewetering4674]

quality content mate great video! makes me want to try the whole 3d printing thing myself :)

[@nikodembartnik]

Go for it!

[@sierraecho884]

3D scanning was always super easy if you used photogrammetry. It is even cheap since you can do it with your phone and some additional software of which even free versions exist, you don´t even need a dedicated scanner. You don´t need your computer for data acquisition. You don´t need a cable or anything besides the camera. Only downside is, you can´t scan moving objects like pets and such. At least not easily and not without only one camera. I can scan in the 0,1mm area with my smartphone or my 300€ DSLR. I scanned human sizes statues in 10 min. The quality was not up to 0.1mm accuracy but in the 1mm accuracy which is plenty enough for me. So it´s pretty simple. The scanner I would get is an automates blue light scanner since it´s way faster. I can also share my models, they are for free you can check them out if interested. For instance I have scanned a trench knife from WW1 and you can see the metal marks in the blade from manufacturing.

[@MrShwaggins]

It's a shame that some manufactures want to charge you an extortionate tate for something, if they even sell the part at all. Imagine trying to find a replacement grill for a 1930's car you are trying to fix, or a broken door handle. Its better to scan parts now, have a catalog of them for later. I hope they don't decide to go full DRM and have a catalog of devices they recognize that refuses to work. I've dealt with 3D scanners in the price range of $20k-$30K and the restrictions alone for the software is maddening enough. The software, license are super restricted and proprietary software to boot. Imagine if you don't have an internet connection for it to dial into the mothership to make sure the thing you legally purchased from them is fine.

[@aaarmin4164]

You mentioned (beginning at 3:40) that it works with IR light and that it will not be influenced by visible light. But what about sunlight outside, how is it's performance there?

[@boggisthecat]

UV is not IR.

[@xostler]

@@boggisthecatbruh the sun puts off as much IR as it does visible light iirc

[@GrzegorzZawistowski]

Great movie. New Year's greetings

[@SnapWireOnlyOne]

Honest its better to make your own scanner and cheaper

[@arturofernandez8487]

Great review! It showed more or less the same knowledge i gained using my creality cr scan lizard which is just a rebrand of this one. Also you may want to use dry shampoo for an easier data pickup.

[@nicolaasalbertse3473]

Hi, how was your scan on the canon camera? I want to buy a scanner to scan surfaces similar to that of the camera.

[@Maggashi]

Most of us are probably just fine with the LidAR sensor on our smartphone, for basic 3d scanning

[@Bhfcgjk]

great video and idea with the hand scan

[@nikodembartnik]

Cool, thanks!

[@StubbyPhillips]

Thanks! I was so hopeful for this one until you got to the part about the monochrome texture. Unfortunately that makes it a fail for me. So... still waiting.

[@Mushiwushii]

now im curious how it would feel to shake my own hand

[@sierraecho884]

Instead of the spray, just use water colors, or foot powder, or baking powder or anything really. For objects which you can´t or don´t want to clean you can use a projector with a noise pattern instead. There is basically no technical object which needs canning. Only biological structures which are hard to model in CAD but almost everything man made is simple shapes stacked on top each other and intersected.

[@SDX9000]

great review!

[@littlefrank90]

The way he says "computèr"

[@ITGuyinaction]

🎄⛄🎁🎅 All the best for New year 2024! Billions of views and subscribers!

[@shayanirenberg3294]

Consumer 3d scanners still have a long way to go to produce a useful scan

[@jothain]

Still _way_ too far for my needs. I mean I can draw fairly complex 3D models with reasonable time by inserting them to ie. layer backgorunds and modeling by them taking measurements. What I would want to see is like fast reproduction of something like intake manifold rubber of motorcycle carburator and airbox. Or maybe fast and _accurate_ dimensions something trivial fairly trivial like gamecontroller/mice part that has complex shapes that are hard to measure. None of the methods current 3D scanners create enable that. There's just way too much of deviation to my liking. That being said. Thank you very much for proving the accuracy for my needs. I'll look into them next five years or so.

[@PerhapsPh]

There are 3D-scanners wich would fulfil your needs, but they are in a total different price range as they are used for inspection of turbine blades, engine components, and much more. But the it is not a question of 600$ but 60 k$. Just search e.g. for a Hexagon SmartScan or StereoScan neo.

[@jothain]

@@PerhapsPh true, I've seen some demos of very good accuracy scanners for industrial usage. But these household models are not even close to them. Progress in them too absolutely, but still way too expensive for their accuracy to me.

[@ChaosSwissroIl]

I think people just need to accept that the best way to get results from 3d scanning is with a dedicated gantry over a turntable that tilts the sensor around the center of the turntable, adjusts the angle of the censor, and the focus of the sensor (either by actuating the lenses or moving the sensor itself), and adjusting the height of the turntable. Bonus points for having the turntable have two offset planar axes of rotation. It is a game of just providing as much unique data as possible, and scanning by hand will never produce ideal results in a reasonable timeframe. 5 minutes and a poor result done by hand or 2 hours and a perfect automated result.

[@MisterMakerNL]

So you got a 650 dollar scanner for free but they couldn't give you a 10 dollar spray-can with it? ;)

[@Plan-And-Build]

kocham twoje filmy

[@MaciejWiercinski]

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[@nikodembartnik]

Dzięki za info, poprawione :)

[@JinKee]

Dildos will never be the same

[@NimaEUUS]

Damn you are soo cute bro hahaha. And yes i love 3d printing 😅

[@StubbyPhillips]

2:43 It's *ALWAYS* the _other_ way. Absolutely stupid design for a connector.

[@Moonrakerd]

thats the real review of a 3d scanner, they all suck :D

[@markmalonson7531]

You need cross section scanning so you can scan the entire part so you can scan and print anything. This is currently done with x-rays dangerous radiation be careful and ultrasound or mr-i. Now you're talking scanners!