"Nikola Jokic Should NOT Have Won The MVP"

[@dumb5461]

Kendrick perkins having an MVP vote is a disgrace.

[@Woody13woodpecker]

Why are you stealing Perk's nick bro?

[@dontmindme4197]

Why?

[@coreyellis4238]

Why wouldn’t he?

[@garrysteger7320]

😅😂🤣

[@reganhatcher1579]

@@dontmindme4197 because his takes are horrendous

[@TheMissiIe]

Jokic had the first 2000 points, 1000 rebound, 500 assist season ever. AS A CENTRE Jokic is the first player ever to average 26ppg, 13rpg, 6apg. AS A CENTRE Lead the league in triple doubles (19), and lead the league in double doubles (66) Lead his team in ppg, rpg, apg, spg, bpg, fg%, 3pt%, and ft%

[@Gdfsandoz]

He didn't lead in 3pt% and ft%. But he was the 1st person in leauge history to lead their team in pts, boards, dimes, blocks, steals and efficiency. Dude was an utter monster.

[@malcolmhodnett8874]

Naaahhhhh it’s just cuz he’s white!! /s

[@-hunt-6225]

@@malcolmhodnett8874 Lol imagine being racist and not even knowing it. Imagine a white player winning an MVP on average of once or twice every decade and you saying it’s cuz he’s white. Imagine being you. 🗑😂🤙🏻

[@ammonaustin9081]

Stat padder =! MVP

[@dusk6159]

@@Gdfsandoz Absolutely pulled the Lebron, and with a similar team too

[@Angel-kv1ty]

Jokic 100% deserved it

[@mampenza]

Bullshit

[@fortynights1513]

The thing that sucks for Embiid is that he could have won this year if he didn’t get hurt, and it’d probably be better regarded than the one he actually won.

[@kellykcombination]

The narrative around Jokic is just weird. My guy could average 30, 16, and 12 and it still wouldn't be enough. I get it, Jokic's team was barely in playoff contention. But, Jokic had a career season. Best PER in NBA history in regular season. Only player in regular season history with 2K points 1000 REB and 500 Assists. But yet, that's not enough. When Giannis won it in 2019 and 2020 he hadn't won shit yet. But we praised him. When Jokic did the exact same thing, we shame him. The analytics were good enough for Giannis, but weren't good enough for Jokic. Goofy.

[@rmelo2382]

you statheads love him so much and i get it . giannis and embiid play better defense than jokic and that you can’t put in stats . yes kendrick perkins is on percs but you people that defend jokic no matter what are just as bad . who gives a fuck about per ? only you dudes who sit on basketball reference all day . “he could average 30,16 and 12 and it wouldn’t be enough” to bad he didn’t do that so you’ll never know .

[@adoracatra3901]

To be fair Giannis had many detractors till last he won last year. It follows most players around, stupid as it may be.

[@BayAreaHoops415]

Not to mention what’s most impressive IMO, the record high Box Plus Minus. Technically one of the most winning players ever when he’s on the court. Embiid fans know deep down why Jokic won. Imo, I’m honestly surprised Embiid got so many first place votes. If you genuinely understand how the voting works then you’d know Jokic would run away with it. Dudes becoming hated on the sole reason he had a better season than their favorite player 😂 now that’s GREATNESS

[@kellykcombination]

@@adoracatra3901 That's true. But even with Giannis, if you go back, no one questioned whether he deserved the award. The criticisms of him had more to do with his playing style and his inability to do well in the post season. Not whether or not he deserved the award.

[@letarivera203]

Hold on now because this is the same thing that happened to Giannis! Do you know how many people told me he didn't deserve MVP because his team wasn't in title contention! I agree Joker should get Love but Giannis is also hated! Its got to be the Foriegn thing because I do not understand it!

[@yayadiawara3910]

Your xenophobia take is spot on. I’m American myself and I do not know why we think like this. Same way we call ourselves world champs for winning in our national league. Makes no sense.

[@destinedforgreatness3030]

I feel u but I think they jus hate jokic bc mfs wanted Joel or giannis as mvp and they ain’t. American either I think they jus hate jokic lol

[@brianbadonde9251]

America has to be the big brother of the world for some reason, it's an annoying superiority complex ushered on by idiots who continue to repeat the "greatest country in the world" propaganda while living in an echo chamber with other people who think the same way

[@Ben-jt6jv]

I think they say national because the NBA is by far the best basketball league in the world so the best team in the NBA is the best in the world

[@stevewillis1916]

That’d make sense if they weren’t saying a Cameroonian and a Greek-Nigerian should win instead 😂😂

[@SunnyHF-nf4bc]

@@stevewillis1916 Yeah. However, I think we can argue there was some weirdness even against Giannis. Like 2020 for example, the media tried to campaign MVP for Lebron even though Giannis was putting up better numbers and was the clear cut favorite. Might have been simply for ratings.

[@brianbadonde9251]

The whole "he got robbed" argument is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. They act like Jokic did nothing all season and just lucked into an MVP. You can disagree with who won it without saying another candidate got "robbed". It's mostly Philly fans too, Giannis supporters just accept the outcome and move on.

[@ronaldomendoza7578]

To be fair Giannis supporters wanna see they boy clothesline and dunk to another chip (i am one of them) and he's been doing it so far

[@sheyarjames4904]

"robbed" implies that Embiid was clearly ahead of everyone by a big margin and that's not true, all the three were close and deserving.

[@bmomgrimm6242]

We Sixers fans are mostly just highly invested in Embiid and don't want him to retire without one. Jokic and Giannis both already have them so its not as impactful. (BTW biased Embiid has my vote but Jokic also deserves it)

[@zachdawson6052]

They’re just mad cause he’s white

[@hatim289]

Giannis himself said i wont it before i dont care about it

[@jackbenham8852]

Giannis would of got my vote, but I can’t be mad at Jokic winning.

[@destinedforgreatness3030]

Yeah I feel u I feel a player like Giannis should always be mvp bc to me a mvp a player that is doing it all and jokic does it all but giannis has better defense so like I feel like all around player should be mvp but I’m not made jokic won it all I understand it I personally jus think like two way players should be mvps bc they doing it all but there’s not that much two way players that are always in mvp conversations so lol

[@TheMartinFigueroa]

Same here

[@ronaldomendoza7578]

Fr, Giannis is closer to Jokic than Joel was this season, its just how it is

[@lukacalov1988]

Jokic had better stats and like 2 less wins with way worse squad why would you not vote for him?

[@Dr.Zoidberg_2914]

Giannis shouldn’t of even been in the convo

[@gordobeenballin9826]

The most annoying thing people keep saying is his team wasn’t going to get anywhere in the playoffs and embiid played without his second best player all year. PHILLY ONLY HAD 3 MORE WINS THAN DENVER AND JAMAAL MURRAY AND MPJ WERE OUT

[@mracnababa8047]

Exactly. Only three more wins and Philly was 4th compared to 6th by Denver. Philly was actually tied with 3 teams for the second spot. How in the hell can east be better, when the 2nd has three more wins than the 6th seed in the west?

[@Gdfsandoz]

@@mracnababa8047 and don't forget to mention 4 of the 5 best teams this year were all in the west. Heat was the only team from the east to make that list. East was far better than its been way more balanced but the west still has all the heavy hitters of the leauge imo

[@maxpelaez4955]

@@mracnababa8047 I still think the east is just as deep with talent compared to the west for the first time in a long time. But I'm not gonna deny the west clearly had better regular season records. And I think there are legit contenders in both conferences for the first time in a while.

[@mracnababa8047]

@@maxpelaez4955 I agree with that. NBA hasn't been this exciting in years. Both conferences are strong, and there is finally some equilibrium.

[@maxpelaez4955]

@@mracnababa8047 yea I'm just really sad Philly hasnt made that jump because our front office is trash.

[@mariocardenas1833]

Kendrick Perkins is so damn flagrant with the xenophobia, and yes I'm aware that not all of the jokic criticism is necessarily xenophobic. But this man consistently brings up the idea that international players shouldn't be winning awards over american players in the nba. He and alot of these ex players have these ridiculously horrendous takes and expect to be right all the time just because they have experienced the game through a player's perspective. You can have all of the experience you want but that doesn’t make you a basketball expert. Perk is a walking L

[@Gdfsandoz]

Crazy thing too is embiid isnt American either he's just black.... gotta love the double standard

[@Crunchy_Troll]

NBA Media in general is just dumb None of them know what they are talking about

[@RomnysGonzalez]

They only support African and americans. They hate to see a white european winning something. The xenophobia is real on the US media

[@omgitzkinguzumaki21]

The top 3 candidates aren't even American 😭

[@KTJ1101]

Less to do with xenophobia more with racism lmao

[@lazydabbr433]

He literally reached a stat, that no other big has ever got, that’s MVP shit in my book.

[@brianbadonde9251]

No other *player

[@ammonaustin9081]

MVP isnt about who pads the most stats. Unfortunately Westbrick fans have inserted that narrative into the conversation with his inflated triple doubles

[@edther]

@@ammonaustin9081 LMFAO thanks for letting us know you don’t watch Jokic or basketball in general. Go back to Twitter if you wanna spout brain dead takes lil bro

[@alexescutia4805]

@@ammonaustin9081 jokic is one of the most efficient players in the league in his play westbrook wasn’t

[@ammonaustin9081]

@@alexescutia4805 And both are consistent 1st round exits. Cause their stat padding doesnt translate to wins in high level basketball. When you have a player trying to do too much, it makes your team easier to work around. All it means is that Jok is stealing the energy & opportunities that other teammates normally would have. Michael Jordan for example was able to be a hyper-scorer but the Bulls offense wasnt tailored for him to play iso-ball to inflate his stats. He generated his stats in the flow of the game while running the triangle offense which still allowed other players to touch the ball.

[@b-ball4life351]

Not even a fan of Jokic, I like Giannis and Embiid waaaaaaay more, but Jokic was easily my mvp. Without a second thought

[@paulbosco2540]

And if it wasn’t jokic it should have been giannis instead of Joel

[@b-ball4life351]

@@paulbosco2540 eeeh imo I have Embiid, but it’s really close

[@jokicback2backmvp877]

If ur not a fan of jokic you ain't even a fan of basketball you clown lol

[@b-ball4life351]

@@jokicback2backmvp877 getting called a clown for supporting your favorite player is outrageous. But just cause I’m not a fan of him doesn’t mean I don’t like him, I’m just neutral. Idrc

[@jokicback2backmvp877]

@@b-ball4life351 so if you like him then ur a fan?

[@Numba1Gorilla]

Aaron Gordon stats: Pts 15.0 Reb 5.9 Ast 2.5 Tobias Harris Stats: Pts 17.2 Reb 6.8 Ast 3.5 Not to mention Tobias is currently the 4th option and AG is the second.

[@wiselychen606]

Ag can only dunk and cut nothing else he can do offensively

[@aaronmiranda832]

Also 1/3 of Gordon’s points were assisted by Jokic so without Jokic he’s literally a 10ppg scorer

[@Numba1Gorilla]

@@aaronmiranda832 That isn't an accurate way to interpret that but whatever floats your boat

[@aaronmiranda832]

@@Numba1Gorilla well obviously context is important like if you replaced Jokic with another great playmaker then he would probably still average around 15 but I was thinking of if you replaced him with Embiid since that Harris’ teammate and you were comparing Harris and Gordon. If your replace Jokic with Embiid Gordon definitely won’t average 15ppg, at most 12.

[@QNB45]

That story time part was mad funny🤣🤣🤣

[@Kxelf]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@xMASFACEx]

With Jokic on the court they’re top ten on offense and defense, without him they are dead last, he’s pretty damn valuable. That’s putting Jokic on the Rockets and getting them to the six seed. Embiid couldn’t do that

[@GodInHisPrime]

I'm not saying Embiid couldn't do that, but he didn't do it.

[@TKN8b8dy]

Embiid most definitely could do that with the way he’s playing now. He had a historical season too don’t get it twisted.

[@xMASFACEx]

@@TKN8b8dy Embiid is a great player don’t get me wrong, him 1v1 against Joker would be very close he might even win but Jokic is a much much better team player, he makes his team mates look a lot better than they actually are, his Basketball IQ is off the charts. oh and he takes accountability for the team, unlike some people…..

[@aaronmiranda832]

@@TKN8b8dy Embiid doesn’t have the impact on teammates that Jokic does. Jokic makes his teammates so much better with his playmaking and leadership. This season his teammates shot 58% on Jokic potential assists which is 10% above the league average. There were times that he played 10 minutes, Nuggets scored 25-30, he went to the bench, Nuggets scored 2-5 in 5 minutes, then he went back in and led the team to scoring again

[@justneekz9641]

I think the hype for Joel is the highest it’s ever been and he’s had some crazy highlights this season which is why I think people say he deserves the award, but in terms of basketball play Jokic without a doubt is the mvp.

[@WeMove19]

And Giannis should've been second at least, he averaged the same points as Embiid but is a better defender and a much better playmaker

[@rmelo2382]

bruh you all are so goofy

[@grayson0916]

@@rmelo2382 I bet you look like Nick Wright

[@maxpelaez4955]

@@WeMove19 embiid deserves second place imo, still had an amazing season. He also shoulders a lot of burden for his team just like those guys. Unfortunately he broke his face and didn't have time to condition because the team couldn't do shit without him. His season was on the same level and gianis and jokic at the very least.

[@rmelo2382]

@@grayson0916 betting aint for you random

[@milanius6283]

Jokic destroyed Embid in direct "confrontation" in every game their teams played agaisnt each other. Jokic had better numbers. Jokic scores a few points less but does every other aspect of the game better. Jokic doesnt care about the MVP award.

[@Leon-or5go]

🤣🤣🤣 casual

[@fallenrose1_952]

I think we need to take into account the team condition into this decision, the fact that the Nuggets can lean on this man to produce on the level that he does AND STILL WIN BY HIMSELF is a testament to Jokic’s play. But if we’re going to do the MVP as a postseason award then we would have to take into account the teams because the best TEAM at the end of the season wins the title, not just one player. Most Valuable means who is the most important piece of the team.

[@Splackavellie85]

Perkins: “the MVP award hasn’t gone to an American in four years.” Also Perkins: “Embiid should have won the MVP.”

[@deeznutz8320]

Kameroon is a Hood in Philly i guess lol

[@pamoon_]

I forgot that Jokic has made a conference finals and Embiid hasn’t.

[@deylack]

your acting like embid wasn’t injured 💀

[@pamoon_]

@@deylack embiid’s best chances to make a conference finals were 2019 and 2021 (i’m not counting 2022 because yes he was injured) 2019 was straight up bad luck, 2021 lol ben simmons

[@deylack]

@@pamoon_ his best chances where this season if you ask me. since he had harden this time which is the floor spacer he needs.

[@sotirismaroudas5923]

The fact that he is White and European (instead of African American) is the reason why most of the “experts” have expressed negative opinions. For one year we can tolerate you, but not for two (back-to-back) seasons… Without Jokic, Denver wouldn’t have been in the playoffs. In the series against Golden State, he was simply exceptional.

[@strahinjastankovic1357]

without Jokic, Denver would've been top 3 worst teams in NBA.

[@jayydasavageeexx9403]

Stop trying to make it about race people felt the same way when Giannis won back to back

[@strahinjastankovic1357]

@@jayydasavageeexx9403 no they didn't

[@SaucinProductions]

@@jayydasavageeexx9403 no they did not 😂

[@sotirismaroudas5923]

@@jayydasavageeexx9403 Giannis is African (as Joel Embiid). Not the same case with Jokic. The people/“critics” who set the tone against Jokic (and in favor of Embidd) are mostly African Americans. Desirable Characteristics of an MVP: 1) American (African, European/White, or Whatever. Canada (Nash) is accepted) 2) African 3) Whatever (Asia, South America, Oceania even Antarctica) 4) European Perkins (the most characteristic case) due to his lack of intelligence said it clearly that the "Americans" must take back the award. The problem is that the best American players during the last several years were either injured or they (starting with James) were “cruising” in waiting for the playoffs. This trend will probably continue…

[@katkoot71]

No lie, “Tell me the difference between Aaron Gordon and Tobias Harris” is one of the most asinine things I’ve ever heard in basketball terms. When you know that THIS is where people’s minds are, it actually becomes reassuring to your own basketball knowledge. I know more than the people who appear on TV, actually played the game, and get paid to talk about the game post-retirement.

[@RecapRico]

In all honesty I don't know the difference myself so can u educate me? I've watched a ton of AG this season and he's a great fit with Jokic which I think makes up for the fact that Tobi is slightly more talented individually. I think the fact that those 2 are debatable even though individually they aren't is more of a reason why Jokic is higher. He truly makes players better

[@nigielschroeder3510]

@@RecapRico the real difference is that Gordon shot under 40% from everywhere except the restricted area. He had to be spoon-fed by jokic and Facu. He has no offensive creation... At all. From what i know, Tobi is quite a bit better on offense

[@RecapRico]

@@nigielschroeder3510 I agree with that but then again Tobis not some shot creator himself. I honestly feel like we're comparing the most useful version of AG vs the natural Tobias. Tobias on his own isn't as good as AG when he's being utilized by Jokic.

[@nigielschroeder3510]

@@RecapRico even in this context, the most useful version of AG should not be a #2 option whereas Tobi would be a more viable #2. In all reality, Tobi is Philly's #4 option which is pretty good imo

[@RecapRico]

@@nigielschroeder3510 17pts for a 4th option is good. 38 mill for 17pts from a 4th option is atrocious. That's what I'm trying to get at. AG is making 16 mill giving you 15ppg

[@logancota4325]

Anyone watching jokic at all this season knows he deserves this. People acting like this is a travesty are so dumb and disrespectful. Man was cooking the warriors on his own

[@bmamurphy]

I also love the fact that everyone who disagrees thinks Jokic only won it for dumb reasons like "He had better stats than last year" and "it's all analytics" and no one is making that his only case. Its Impact its eye test its comparative wins its adversity it is to do with the numbers but both normalative and advanced stats favour Jokic,

[@RealCGH]

If another player put up 28/14/7 on 58% on a 50 win pace with his 2 best players while being top 10 in damn near every major category and leading his team in literally every major stat people would've been meat riding the player. For some odd reason it's a meh season from jokic despite him having a historic season and as for playoff critique. He literally was going against the warriors with Aaron Gordon as his second best player no crap he lost.

[@slackerofhell]

I've heard the "because he's white" narrative fairly often, too

[@KingslayerSrb]

@@slackerofhell which is shocking to me, as a Slav, because we Slavs are actually categorized as PoC in Coalition of Communities of Color alliance chapter. Literally Slavs have nothing in common historically with anglo-saxon whites, and in Jokic's case specifically, he comes from a nation that spent 5 centuries in slavery to the Ottomans. Its mind boggling how shallow people can be with their comments

[@slackerofhell]

@@KingslayerSrb it comes down to his complexion. Where he's from doesn't matter. They're clearly looking at his skin color.

[@ammonaustin9081]

If Jokic had more impact, he would be leading his team much further than he does. Much like Luka, dude is a stat padder, not a gamechanger. But his fanboys will always use the excuse of other mates being injured for the Nuggets always being playoff cupcakes. Because Jok isnt the type of player who can elevate a team.

[@digontozahid]

Bruh you should make more videos on this channel...

[@vancouvergolfvilla4528]

This might not be for all who love playing and watching basketball. I enjoy watching Jokic, he controls the whole game, sees moves in advance, and makes the right plays. His moves are unexpected and just feel like magic ( you almost get used to it, like David Copperfield disappearing and reappearing). Watching Embeed, Janis, I can see great athleticism and skill. Great plays, but always the same thing. I do not see them improving their teammates and making others look good. It is all about them. Eventually, I go back to watching Jokic and the basketball chess he plays while others play checkers. Just a different level. What a humble and great guy. All for the team. We are really fortunate to live in this time to witness something like this.

[@astriddececco3005]

Jokic was interviewed a few days ago about winning his second MVP and how he felt about it. Paraphrase what he said the MVP award is awarded to you by others which is debatable, but a championship is something that you earn by winning. I want to win a championship.

[@rasaecnai]

2k, 1k, 500 No one in ALL OF NBA HISTORY has had this kind of production... EVER. So Nick Wrong's argument about Jokic not belonging to the best of the best ever is outright insanity. Literally, Jokic has numbers even MJ or LeBron ever had. I am not saying he is better than those two. But, I am saying that he achieved something that none has ever made possible. Score, rebounding, and passing. Jokic is so good, not just in one, but in all three. That is why he is the MVP.

[@MichelePonte]

I love your takes. It clearly shows your not biased like all these big media people.

[@omerali580]

Jokic is arguably the best offensive big-man ever. How is he not all-time great?

[@Yungmoneyyy2]

define “arguably”

[@Yungmoneyyy2]

because there’s not an argument for that yet

[@omerali580]

@@Yungmoneyyy2 His only competition for that title is Shaq and maybe Kareem

[@DgSezn]

@@Yungmoneyyy2 what other big man is near his level of playmaking lmaoo, sure scoring there’s no argument but there’s no other big man except Wilt that could facilitate and create offense while being one of the best scores in the league

[@president1al157]

@@omerali580 Hakeem the most skilled big man ever

[@Uncouthed]

The irony of Perks xenophobia is that Joel is an INTERNATIONAL PLAYER

[@P-DAPS]

Arguably the top 5 players in the League right now are all international. Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, Luka…

[@benjaminan1183]

That's 4.

[@shin0012]

Whoever decided that joke of an analyst perkins gets a vote should be fired. Media people saying “embiid should get mvp cus he dealt with simmons and harden declining”. So you guys gonna ignore jokic basically doing it all for the nuggets without his number 2 and 3 guy. Without embiid this season the sixers can still be a play in team. Without jokic this season the nuggets gonna get them gleague memes

[@JohnSon-vk1nz]

little known fact: 2018-2019 Jokic finished 4th in MVP voting

[@joemilo2710]

And he was true MVP that year too, just no one paid real attention and his stats weren't high enough. Look what trash team Jokic took from no playoffs the year before to 2nd seed in conference that year. All other high seeded teams had superteams or multiple All-Stars on their team, no one carried a team like Jokic that year.

[@milosjovicevic6083]

He was realisticaly third But thay put Paul in front of him on the end Also-- 2020 he was ALSO realisticaly top 5 but thay put him on 9 😬

[@joemilo2710]

@@milosjovicevic6083 I would say he was MVP that year because he did most with least, which should be essence of MVP. Taking a bad team with no other star from 9th seed to 2nd seed is really hard and not many people have done it in NBA history. Nuggets were also 1st seed for a good part of that season.

[@PatrickRoy30]

Perkins consistently has some of the worst takes about the NBA, it astounds me that he gets paid to talk about a sport that he seemingly knows nothing about.

[@jlui21]

- I think JJ redick mentioned that in the morning, questions are presented to the ESPN commentators. The likes of JJ, Stephen A, Perk, etc pick a few questions for them to debate. ESPN will throw out a crazy take, and sometimes Perk will take a hit -- bad or very bad, lol. It's their jobs to create views, and he's doing a decent job at that.

[@thomaswilliam4015]

I also don't like how with Jokic there are these playoff question marks. Jokic has made it to the conference finals more than Embiid. Also been to the same amount of second rounds while having a less team. He just averaged 31 and 13 after averaging 30 and 12 last year. He now is one of the best playoff performers in the game and no one can deny that.

[@aaronmiranda832]

He’s the only player in NBA history to be top 35 in playoff points, rebounds, and assists per game. Not Lebron, not Westbrook, not Oscar Robertson, not Giannis, only Jokic

[@bretkindsvatter3574]

Thank you for this. People be absolutely tripping on these takes. Jok MVP and the man earned that.

[@siyar8300]

Thats the thing that gets me the most, people are trying to say that Jokic hasn't achieved what Embiid has in the postseason when Jokic has actualyl made it to the conference final and Embiid has not

[@GrimeBot-io7ho]

Damn, even I forgot about that.

[@DonDeDon445]

Literally they’re mad their favorite player didn’t win. Like they’re purposely saying yes he wins in every statistical category but who cares 🤷🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️ it’s so stupid

[@lucidhooper]

Wonder why they love Joel so much😂😂

[@MOCskoden]

6:16 now that’s the best thing I’ve heard anyone make a MVP case for Joel Embiid. I was drawn into the story.

[@FreshBOI1579]

LMAOOO PERK SAID “jamaal Murray” after spears said missouri lmaoo

[@Xweather231]

I find it so ironic that people are claiming Jokic doesn’t have playoff success (has more playoff success than embiid). And that embiid had such a better record (only 4 more wins).

[@CASTRO45ACP]

Honestly the award is for regular season so who cares? Jokic doesn’t have the defensive presence Embiid does.

[@niks.8957]

@@CASTRO45ACP he had a better defensive rating than Embiid this season lol

[@CASTRO45ACP]

@@niks.8957 Yes, I actually know that, I believe it was defensive efficiency, which is an absolute joke and shows you that analytics ain’t shit. I love Jokic but in my eyes Embiid was just better this season.

[@kyaboysavannah1336]

@@niks.8957 stats go actually watch film

[@niks.8957]

@@kyaboysavannah1336 he averaged more defensive rebounds steals and has a better defensive rating, you can watch film all you want you’ll see Jokic is a better defender with higher iq, only thing Embiid has over him is blocks but that’s just one aspect of defense

[@Im.Luve1]

My thing is even if it was a post season/regular season award JOEL STILL WOULD HAVE LOST lol

[@milosblagojevic4087]

Worst part is that somebody is paying those fools a lots of money.

[@darrengordon-hill]

2nd worst is people actually watch

[@xed530]

Why would jokic rob embiid? Dumb reasoning, did jokic declared himself mvp of the regular season. MVP is trhough voting, he got the most number of 1st place votes

[@dylanl1207]

this gotta be one of the funniest videos you’ve ever done i was laughing so hard

[@darrengordon-hill]

LOWkey

[@metathoughts732]

You are brilliant. I love that story time. Thank you sir. You should be on ESPN.

[@cjthaking6302]

I wish I can just talk and have a basketball conversation with LOW because he such a breath of fresh air from the ignorance alot of people don't see. I give it to Joel but people should not be upset that someone who also deserves MVP won

[@kylehowe6761]

Joel is a crybaby who deserves nothing

[@MahenS_R]

4:01 why buddy sound like he was gonna call him Nikolaodeon

[@bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

“His coach was Doc Rivers” 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@viditbatta2434]

The guy who said "Who gonna be the American that takes it personally" has the same energy as Kanye West when he was like "now who gone be the medici family and let me create, or are you gonna mArGiNaLiZe me until I'm out of my moment?"

[@temo7073]

It’s crazy how perk said the Americans gotta take it back but voted for Embiid who’s literally not American☠️

[@darrengordon-hill]

Joel is American. Ben Simmons too.

[@aleks5022]

Not that crazy if you think about it. Embiid may not be American, but at least he is black.

[@darrengordon-hill]

@@aleks5022 Always Satanic with y'all

[@jamesthompson5287]

Nah the NBA media today is so bad man, the fact these people can go on TV daily and no one calls them out is so disappointing

[@jazzno217]

It’s been pretty clear that it been going to the PER leader unless one of the candidate has a great come up and Is the #1 seed. Since 2008 only Derrick Rose and Curry’s first one have been non PER leaders. But they were both surprise No.1 seeds.

[@JoWasHere79]

The only real NBA analysts are Ernie Johnson and Shannon Sharpe, the only ones that said it publicly they voted for Jokic and that he deserved MVP...

[@bobbymeade2099]

Jalen Rose admitted to having voted for Jokic.

[@kylehowe6761]

@@bobbymeade2099 there are many more

[@slackerofhell]

International players are finally catching up in skill level since it's easier for them to get to the US so they can play for the NBA. Look at the difficulties that Arvydas Sabonis had getting into the league. He didn't make it to Portland until he was passed his prime yet if you listen to any NBA player that had to go against him in the Olympics they'd tell you how unreal he was. I personally think the media should be hyping international players more. It means the league is growing rapidly and will also add fan viewership from across the globe. I mean, if you're Serbian and had no reason to watch basketball before, maybe you'll see Jokic as a figure of pride for your country. And that's amazing in my book.

[@MichelePonte]

The media doesn’t hype international players cause their target audience is the USA

[@bo978]

NBA does an awful job of promoting international talent.

[@milosivanovic606]

When usa played against Lituvania in olympics

[@Luka-st4uf]

I agree with your statement but Serbs were crazy about basketball way before Jokić became a star in NBA.

[@87crimson]

@@Luka-st4uf Basketball in the balkans and Greece is like Football in Brazil and Argentina. No need for NBA players for the sport to be popular.

[@Crunchy_Troll]

THE NBA MEDIA DO NOT KNOW SHIT ABOUT BASKETBALL

[@DankSwegSkuxxXhayel]

At this point people need to realize A VAST MAJORITY of "established" or "old school" television shows are intentionally designed to stir controversy. You'll stay engaged with something that angers you for far longer than something that brings you joy more times than not. It's good that with the revolution around media we can now contrast opinions against each other (for the most part, freedom of speech is kinda dead) and see what's real and what's not. Specifically in terms of basketball also I think A LOT of credit has to be given to the guys on TNT for holding such an open and honest discourse on the game of basketball at the highest level, from some of the greatest to ever play the game That validity set the standard for members of today's media like LOW and others to speak from a place of truth and objectivity or at least as far as you personally believe. It also shows people that you can find success and actually more success from taking the time to be knowledgeable and respect the topic you speak on.

[@blackgruya011]

Dude you are so much fun, keep with good work :D Chers!

[@michaelwenmanK7USN]

Funny all these people saying Jokic didn't deserve to win or should not have won the MVP and they can't even dribble down their chin. They are just against him because he is a WHITE foreigner.

[@jonathansykes4986]

you know kendrick perkins played in the NBA for like 16 years right?

[@lukacalov1988]

These media punk hates Jokic and i love that he won MVP 100% deserve no cap

[@DankSwegSkuxxXhayel]

If they wanted to downplay Jokics regular season they shouldn't point out that other teams are dealing with injuries they should double down on the fact that his second and third option is gone and therefore he has inflated numbers.

[@fafsafssafsfafas4152]

This is pure GOLD ! ty man for making this video

[@865style]

Nikola was the mvp and it's not close. He averaged better numbers and was more valuable to his team. The numbers Jokic Points= 27.1 Rebounds= 13.8 Assist= 7.9 Steals= 1.5 Blocks= 0.9 FG%= 58.3% Embiid Points= 30.6 ( 3.5 more points) Rebounds= 11.7 ( 2.1 less rebounds ) Assist= 4.2 ( 3.7 less assists ) Steals= 1.1 ( .4 less steals ) Blocks= 1.5 ( .6 more blocks ) FG%= 49% ( jokic almost shot 10% better from the field then embiid)

[@Tonymarshall11]

The nuts thing is he could have had 2-3 more APG this season had his teammates finished some of the relatively easy layups and shots they missed

[@wickedowitch1652]

Imagine if their best shooters, Murray and Porter, would have played. That's alot more assists for the joker.

[@lawrencealexander3737]

If they could hit shots they could have beat the Warriors. If Murray and Porter were playing I think the Warriors lose.

[@poolandmusic]

Jokic and Giannis are the BEST players in the NBA right now period, doesn't matter where they are from, what color they are whatever. Good is good and Jokic deserves the MVP as an individual and it's clear based on the stats for this season this is non negotiable.

[@XXEXETREMEHEROXX]

That story time bit was too funny😂😭

[@erv.7663]

Molly’s take is definitely taken out of context. Before that She said, it should be given out right at the end of the season because a lot of peoples views on the award is diluted because its given out in the middle of the playoffs and she also said Jokic deserves to win it.

[@madamontana8817]

The straight face had me dying😂😂😂😂

[@pewpewpandas9203]

I think what the MVP award should mean (not what it currently does or ever has) is the player in the league who if you traded with any other player from any other team would make that team better and their team worse. I can't think of any other thing the award should represent that makes any sense.

[@SunnyHF-nf4bc]

@Pew Pew Pandas I get where you’re coming from. The problem with that is there is no way to objectively reach a conclusion about that. It’s an argument based on hypotheticals. But a big issue with the MVP award is that it’s not given before the playoffs start and people forget that it’s a regular season award.

[@sheyarjames4904]

That would complicate matters because if you wanna win with a superstar then you gotta construct the team around him and bring the right pieces that fit his playstyle, if we base the MVP off of trading players then both teams can be effected negatively, if you trade Luka to the Nuggets and Jokic to the Mavs then both team would suffer because each team has a completely different style that suits the capabilities of their respective superstar players

[@sheyarjames4904]

@@SunnyHF-nf4bc that's an annoying thing to be honest, I heard alot of people saying that he shouldn't be an MVP when he looses in the first round, people don't understand that even if a player averages 0-0-0 on 0% efficiency then it would still not impact his MVP case because it's a regular season award.

[@pewpewpandas9203]

@@sheyarjames4904 I don't know if the mavs would get worse there. Jokic thrives on making his team mates better. The nuggets had fuck all other than him this season and still made the playoffs. I get what you mean though that it would be hard to determine, and it is a hypothetical, but at least it is some sort of metric and isn't a complete mystery.

[@lucaswedderburn]

Dudeeeeeeeee wtf. Just stumbled across this video on my recommended. Your takes are spot on, keep up the great content. I got a good laugh out of this because you just exposing the ignorance in some of these basketball talk shows.

[@doublej7293]

First time watching your content and was pleasantly surprised you also took issue with Perkins trying to Americanize the Mvp award. Nothing about you that made it surprising but most nba channels steer clear of anything remotely political when it can be extremely relevant in the discourse the community is engaging in

[@nijeStevakutji]

1:21 i did not expect that 🤣🤣🤣

[@jjcarver80]

As a data engineer... and knowing we can literally look at the numbers, and the consistency.. and seeing people try to implement subjective arguments to move Embiid over Jokic.. When Jokic has been the most reliable AND efficient player, along with averaging the numbers he does.. while also shooting at a high percentage... I'm convinced people are just stupid, not xenophobic. That's giving them way too much credit...

[@TheToad075]

I think it’s the complexion of his skin that angers people

[@nothingbutnets9025]

Jokic imo is a special case cause how often do we see a guy without his second or third best player carry a group of nobody with any form of cache to a respectable record while being dumb efficient

[@tatemartin8454]

They obviously haven't seen nikola play many games 🤣. Dude has everything you could possibly want

[@OFWATIKA]

Nah when they said we didnt know who joel had that could ball i damn near had the same reaction as Low lmaoooooooo

[@Beastmodezzxd]

that’s gotta be racist

[@destinedforgreatness3030]

Huh lol racist

[@superseahawk4296]

def racist lmao

[@destinedforgreatness3030]

@@superseahawk4296 who they being racist to jokic lol

[@alucard3374]

THANK YOU. this was a breath of fresh air.

[@BUILDASLINKY]

Does Perkins even know embiid is a foreigner also? The man’s from Cameroon It’s not like he was born in philly just because he plays there.

[@aleks5022]

He sees Embiid as one of his own people. African descent. It seems that deep down it is the most important factor for many in the NBA.

[@DgSezn]

It’s the fact people don’t like Jokic’s playstyle, He is very high on players like Luka who have a better looking and flashier game

[@BlackMarvel25]

I don't understand why people always shit on Nash and his mvp's like he didn't deserve them.

[@Bigtank9401]

4:49 It's interesting to me that he says that, while on the same pod talking about how Embiid should have Won MVP... Embiid is not American. This award goes to the best player, not the best *American* player

[@kylehowe6761]

It’s because he’s white not that he’s foreign

[@Bigtank9401]

@@kylehowe6761 No it's not, because they did Similarly did the same thing when Giannis was on his championship run.

[@kylehowe6761]

@@Bigtank9401 they did not treat Gianni’s the same way they are treating Jokic from they way they market him. Zero commercials for him…media is incredibly biased against him…Gianni’s gets overrated when he can’t even shoot because he has such a good team

[@Bigtank9401]

@@kylehowe6761 Of course they don't treat them the same way, but to say that it's racially motivated is Incorrect. Has Denver Won a Ring? Gone to the WCF? Does he want to be in these commercials? An agent can give him opportunities, but he could be denying them to do commercials in his country(Which he has done). Does he market himself? Being in Denver(Just like Utah) it's not much of a Marketable place, but he's definitely getting the time because of his MVP awards. It's crazy you say Giannis gets overrated because he doesn't shoot 3s. Yet, Look at the numbers. Jokic shoots 2.9 3s a game, Giannis shoots 2.4 3s a game. Jokic doesn't shoot either. Giannis actually got minimal air time before he won the championship. The Narrative was the same as it is for Jokic. Has he won anything? Has he gotten to the WCF? etc. etc. Back then, it was more about Bron and the Lakers, KD, Steph, etc. When Giannis was on his Championship run, the media was basically running the narrative that he was a "Robin" that he wasn't even a leader... a superstar player... the #1 Option. I haven't heard that same Narrative for Jokic. They just compare him to Embiid and say that Jokic "Robbed" him. To be real here, they want to market athleticism, when guys like Jokic, Harden, Luka, come into play, they view that type of play to be "Boring" because it's not appealing to them. In order for these players to get recognized, they have to Win. Luka's now getting more recognition because he's made it to the WCF. It doesn't matter about how many commercials, air time, etc. one should have. If he doesn't Win, they don't talk.

[@kylehowe6761]

@@Bigtank9401 Jokic has made the wcf btw…he probably doesn’t want to personal commercials but still the nba doesn’t even attempt to market him and exclude out of promotional video I’ve ever seen or just give him a one second shot…and the media is so disingenuous I wish people would just ignore them all together

[@hutsonizer7548]

This was brilliant. Subscribed.

[@P-DAPS]

Jokic is the MVP easy…

[@jamesbush1008]

I just found your channel but your videos a not only hilarious but you also have actual knowledge and facts I love your vids brother m def gonna subscribe 100%

[@HunchoCutsHair]

Low…post more bruh please

[@sneak2attack]

We need more vids! Love your take!!

[@jbreezy519]

Keep posting. Love your content. You’re one of the few that actually uses common sense while also breaking down others take.

[@devinchinchilla7804]

I liked the choice of using that Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess OST when you were doing the bit of the "MVP Story" Gave me nostalgia.

[@aleksandarvujic1876]

you are a genious man...........what a great video in so many ways!

[@durag_tg]

Jokic may not be the most athletic but his numbers are mvp level numbers

[@pawellewczuk]

Talks about only international players winning the mvp award, but yet Joel Embid, the player HES making a case to win it instead of Jokic, was born in Cameroon? Literally wtf is wrong with Perk man 😂😂😂

[@BigChrisPR]

my favorite part of the video is when Low uses Twilight Princess music to do the story bit. the nostalgia that hit me was real

[@aleksandarstojanovski9193]

i understand giannis fans getting upset that jokic won, he was 30/12/6 in the regular season and then he went insane in the playoffs at 32/14/7 on absurd efficiency. jokic was at 27/14/8 then 31/13/6 during those 5 games against the warriors, on INSANE efficiency. thats a 50/50 decision no matter which way you look at it. embiid on the other hand, went 30/11/4 during the regular season and then went 23/10/2 during his playoff run , on good, but not crazy efficiency. so i dont understand all the bark about embiid getting robbed, becase their numbers were close enough during the regular season, and then embiid shit the bed during the playoffs and gave us the james harden playoff dropoff special.

[@jthouston286]

Perkins argument abt the mvp being an American award is so stupid especially considering the top 3 in mvp are all from different countries

[@tashrif46]

Why does Marcus Spears even have a say on this? Isn't he the NFL expert? These people don't even know the names of the prominent players. Like what is going on.

[@joeyhockey4623]

This dudes just a walking W. You always have a super similar thought process as me. Love to see it tbh.

[@yunan9610]

I'm happy that the awards given for the past few years have been fairly unbiased with the help of the analytics and advanced stats

[@AyoWorldly]

This is why he has a podcast whenever I listen to all his podcasts I come right here

[@SeizedM0ney]

I remember when they tried to disrespect russell for winning it as a 6th seed as well but aint say shit about jokic 6th seed mvp

[@toon1cetanks653]

With jokic off the court the nuggets were the worst team in the league. He would take his rest up 10 points and when he came back in they were down 5.