Nikola Jokic IS NOT A TOP 15 Player in the NBA

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Foot On The Line

Foot On The Line

Күн бұрын

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@Nightmare-we8vm
@Nightmare-we8vm 11 ай бұрын
This guy's take aged like milk. Every contender in the league is looking for an answer to the Joker problem. Shout out to the others watching in 2023
@abespeaks6718
@abespeaks6718 9 ай бұрын
I just commented that hahahaha especially since Jokic beat Jimmy Butler in the finals.
@PowderHeight
@PowderHeight 9 ай бұрын
Watching in early 2024, someone hopefully tagged him.. nuggets win the championship very next season
@315giants
@315giants 7 ай бұрын
whats dudes name ? any one know ?
@terminator6950
@terminator6950 6 ай бұрын
@@315giants If you’re talking about the guy in the video who’s “not a fan of Jokic”, his name is Ben Lyons
@captainobvious90
@captainobvious90 6 ай бұрын
I am always amazed with the confidence these people have spouting nonsense, I wish I have that kind of confidence
@MrFR795
@MrFR795 2 жыл бұрын
The nuggets had the 6th best offense last year and this without the second and third best offensive player … CRAZY !
@kidusgebretensay7228
@kidusgebretensay7228 2 жыл бұрын
Real niggas know bro, haters gone hate
@Nick-sr4fe
@Nick-sr4fe 2 жыл бұрын
And sure wasn’t because of Will Barton and Aaron Gordon
@mactsai5652
@mactsai5652 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nick-sr4fe sure it was not
@evanwrenn402
@evanwrenn402 2 жыл бұрын
With Aaron Gordon and 2 backups as their best offensive players outside of Jokic. Nuggets could be a serious threat next year.
@bignoob24
@bignoob24 2 жыл бұрын
They had Aaron Gordon, Will Barton, & Monte Morris, all good players but that's not enough. Now they got Murray & Mpj back, alongside Bruce Brown, Kcp, & Ish Smith. They're gonna have the #1 offense in the league especially considering how Bruce & Ish are great cutters.
@nevenpatrk9661
@nevenpatrk9661 2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy that people like to hold Jokic down because of his playoff success but don't apply those same standards to Embiid.
@kulk3667
@kulk3667 2 жыл бұрын
When Jokic has good teams he makes it to conference finals, when Embiid has good teams he gets bounced in the 2nd round…
@daniell5740
@daniell5740 2 жыл бұрын
Cause embiid actually Carrie’s his teams unlike Jokic
@LetMeEatDem
@LetMeEatDem 2 жыл бұрын
@@daniell5740 explain how that makes any sense Lmao
@mmmm8134
@mmmm8134 2 жыл бұрын
It's just crazy that Nuggets/Jokic fans have to make everything about Embiid when everybody knows that he's an injury prone player. Embiid is injured most times, Jokic is always healthy. That's the main reason different standards are applied because the individual circumstances are different. And of course Jokic team was bad these playoffs but so was Embiid's. Harden (hamstring?) and most role players didn't show up, only consistent player he had was Tobias Harris
@z39836
@z39836 2 жыл бұрын
@@daniell5740 without jokic the nuggets would be a lottery team this year
@hollowichigo1023
@hollowichigo1023 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not even a jokic fanboy but I remember watching this and hearing him talk about the fact that jokic rides horses in his off time as if that hurt his basketball ability and made him a less desirable player
@jeezyhuncho2783
@jeezyhuncho2783 2 жыл бұрын
dat dont count
@michaelremon7283
@michaelremon7283 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it stems from the crazy amount of xenophobia you see in sports media. Just let the man ride his horse buggy ffs. If Lebron or AD averaged Jokic's stat line for a season, there would be none of these shitty takes coming from these pundits. It's all because Jokic is a pudgy white dude from Serbia.
@baradureye2170
@baradureye2170 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and he views it as an attitude problem, like dude jokic lives in a freakin farm in a Literal small village! 😂
@tzeege
@tzeege 2 жыл бұрын
​@@baradureye2170 His hometown is not a "small village", but I get your point. Edit: And he doesn't live on a farm... Come to think of it, you're way off.
@ZeleniĆime
@ZeleniĆime 2 жыл бұрын
idiot haters gonna say anything to disrespect. Joker is the most humble MVP
@gameday6900
@gameday6900 2 жыл бұрын
10:00 "2years ago I'd rather have paul george" 2 years ago was when pg13 lost to denver blowing 3-1 while having better teammates lol so ironic.
@prof.krastavaclee8795
@prof.krastavaclee8795 2 жыл бұрын
Pg 13%
@ishyameru6232
@ishyameru6232 2 жыл бұрын
dude's either racist stupid or a casual
@thatguyluis
@thatguyluis 2 жыл бұрын
Two years ago is where Pandemic P is born, hell why do these people have following tbh
@colej6108
@colej6108 2 жыл бұрын
@@prof.krastavaclee8795 💀💀😭
@insertlastname
@insertlastname 2 жыл бұрын
Doc rivers is a bad coach
@MrFR795
@MrFR795 2 жыл бұрын
Lost a game 7 at home so he is not all time great… but doesnt mention that Jokic is 3-1 in game 7‘s in his career
@jeezyhuncho2783
@jeezyhuncho2783 2 жыл бұрын
dat dont count
@kalebcahalan6527
@kalebcahalan6527 2 жыл бұрын
That was also 5 seasons ago lol
@elijahguerrero4913
@elijahguerrero4913 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeezyhuncho2783 then Lebron coming back from 3-1 doesn’t either, y’all make no sense what kind of logic 🤦🏾‍♂️
@josephchung19
@josephchung19 2 жыл бұрын
curry aint a all time great too then
@jeezyhuncho2783
@jeezyhuncho2783 2 жыл бұрын
@@elijahguerrero4913 dude they cheated
@okita_souji_alter
@okita_souji_alter 2 жыл бұрын
Why do ppl undermine jokic and giannis so much.....
@alexforbesjr.1923
@alexforbesjr.1923 2 жыл бұрын
It’s beyond crazy🤦🏾‍♂️
@fazediamond5671
@fazediamond5671 2 жыл бұрын
Xenophobia
@notnigelll
@notnigelll 2 жыл бұрын
some people in this community are Xenophobic
@robustbottlecap
@robustbottlecap 2 жыл бұрын
being less flashy or less iconic perhaps? i think it's probably the similar reason some people putting Kobe in their top 5 or top 3 all time. It's ridiculous to say the least
@lancetanui3438
@lancetanui3438 2 жыл бұрын
@@robustbottlecap same problem with Tim Duncan
@danelukic2911
@danelukic2911 2 жыл бұрын
He is not american, he is white, he came from Serbia, 75% of US NBA audience can't show it on the map, he doesn't have social media, he doesn't talk s#!+ and don't campain. And some of the media and nba society are pissed, because they don't understand how can this man who can't run fast or jump high, destroy everybody. Dude just play the game like a genious and go home. That's why!!!
@grief6052
@grief6052 2 жыл бұрын
That being said tho players on the court dont fuck with jokic after the morris incident he is rough as hell on the court lol
@danelukic2911
@danelukic2911 2 жыл бұрын
@@grief6052 fact
@20dieux
@20dieux 2 жыл бұрын
@@grief6052 Yeah, because somehow commentators think that athleticism is just about jumping high and running fast, but Jokic is strong, listen to what Miles Turner says about him : kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGWXmamNYpaViac
@liordagan9342
@liordagan9342 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like they need to go back to eighties, where a shorter, less strong white hick had 3 consecutive MVPs, and caused the best players in the league nightmares. But he did talk trash.
@Jmxd21
@Jmxd21 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t even think book would take himself over Jokic
@cantripleplays
@cantripleplays 2 жыл бұрын
Na book would
@srdjanpajic2404
@srdjanpajic2404 2 жыл бұрын
After this year's Luka special, Booker has no right to put himself above any of the top players
@bondinho6114
@bondinho6114 2 жыл бұрын
@@srdjanpajic2404 absolutely
@WalterModel45
@WalterModel45 2 жыл бұрын
I would ask for permission to his father Luka Doncic.
@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090
@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090 2 жыл бұрын
Book definitely would. But inside he would know it was the most Bigoted thing he'd ever done. ;)
@sarkistadevosyan2281
@sarkistadevosyan2281 Жыл бұрын
This age so well
@TenThumbsProductions
@TenThumbsProductions 6 ай бұрын
"It can only take you so far" ... like a ring? Back to back rings? When he says it can only take you so far, what is after a championship? I hope that his friends make him watch this everyday.
@Ginger2882.
@Ginger2882. 2 жыл бұрын
The whole take is horrible but I think the worst part is the fact that he really compared Melo to Jokic. I love Melo but he is possibly the farthest thing from Jokic. Melo truly did just 1 thing elite which is scoring whereas Jokic might be the best all around offensive player in the league. Not to mention his stupid point about having to run your offense through Jokic like that is a bad thing. Jokic is the first person you would want to be your main offensive option.
@loganfox946
@loganfox946 2 жыл бұрын
Fr
@jonnstewart2023
@jonnstewart2023 2 жыл бұрын
love jokic but he's not the best all round player , Giannis is , his defense is top 2 to 5 in the league while jokic on his best day is a mediocre defender
@freddyfontan476
@freddyfontan476 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonnstewart2023 I think he meant all around offensive player (pretty much great or better at everything on offense)
@danfinn1832
@danfinn1832 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonnstewart2023 I think that’s a little harsh on his best day he’s a terrific team defender who can get steals and defensive boards similar to a role that a traditional big would’ve played on defense guys like Parish or Walton.
@Cashmoneez
@Cashmoneez 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonnstewart2023 nah jokic is at least average on defense
@arondardouri2324
@arondardouri2324 2 жыл бұрын
It’s soo sad that so many ppl around the NBA are so xenophobic. Players like Luka, Giannis, and Jokic have been slandered for years unfairly. One prime example is mispronouncing their names, like as a person in basketball media, how are u going to butcher somebody’s name even when that person is the MVP of the league. They said that Luka wasn’t going to be good enough for the NBA and now he’s the best in his class, and the other two have won back to back mvps. It’s really sad to see this is how ppl view them, or maybe it’s just for clicks who knows
@3steban427
@3steban427 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you mean but you're a little off base: They don't hate the foreign players, they just hate Jokic for some reason. Luka was made the darling of the league as rookie. He was even the betting favorite to win MVP before last season started if I remember correctly. I'm not mad about that, but it's really confusing that the talking heads in the media think Luka is the next big thing while ignoring Jokic. 8 years after Jokic was drafted people making money to talk on TV can't say his (2 syllable) name right. And Giannis has been known by his first name for about 5 years, most folks think he's the best player in the league right now.
@forg_tful.
@forg_tful. 2 жыл бұрын
@@3steban427 i think it's a matter of play style. the lack of flashiness with jokić outside of passing hurts their tiny brains, and they don't care to watch him outside of highlight reels enough to actually speak on his play style objectively.
@rutokelavra819
@rutokelavra819 2 жыл бұрын
@@3steban427 The Darling of the league!?!?!??!??!??! are u kiddin...
@shaunom8363
@shaunom8363 2 жыл бұрын
@@3steban427 giannis is probably the most slated out of them. Nba media tend to overlook internationals.
@lhynx2
@lhynx2 2 жыл бұрын
Giannis Final run isnt talked abt enough. Any other star dropping 50 pts 5blk in a close out game, having two historic moments (block, dunk), avg 35 13 and 5 would be the face of the NBA!!!
@anf9311
@anf9311 2 жыл бұрын
The last 2 seasons where we saw Jokic and the Nuggets with a healthy roster: 2019: 2nd best team in the West behind the KD Warriors, was 1st for at least a third of the season. Reached Game 7 of the 2nd round and narrowly lost. 2020: TWO ✌🏾 3-1 comebacks and made the conference finals. I can't wait for next season yall 😤 a Bucks-Nuggets Finals would break old media
@kohsmoger1567
@kohsmoger1567 2 жыл бұрын
Warriors are better
@manuprasad5354
@manuprasad5354 2 жыл бұрын
@@kohsmoger1567 too early to tell from a warriors fan
@grief6052
@grief6052 2 жыл бұрын
Buck nuggets finals is a must watch, a jokic vs giannis showdown is absolutely legendary
@nebur_ralek
@nebur_ralek 2 жыл бұрын
Ty no one remembers nuggets led the west for almost half the season. Can't wait for a full healthy season
@manuprasad5354
@manuprasad5354 2 жыл бұрын
@@nebur_ralek I feel the aspect of the nuggets we'll only get more info on as they play would be their defense. That offense is looking scary, not many teams have second third options that play so well off of their star, alongside the fact that the star is the back to back mvp largely because of his insane offensive package. Not even sure they had another shot creator this past season. Just hoping said second and third options can come back strong.
@siyar8300
@siyar8300 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Low for being the voice of reason in some of these crazy talks the NBA media have. People like Ben Lyons just get in front of people and just talk, they don't think
@legendarywiimaster
@legendarywiimaster 2 жыл бұрын
It’s for the sake of entertainment, it draws a lot of attention which brings them revenue
@thelyonking5812
@thelyonking5812 2 жыл бұрын
Ben is a disgrace to my last name
@panner11
@panner11 9 ай бұрын
True what an idiot. And so infuriating when this Ben Lyons guy said "I just want to bring some nuance to the conversation". MFer, as if you didn't just spew the most unnuanced, unthoughtful, garbage casual hot take of all time.
@KleinpeterHank
@KleinpeterHank 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve said it before but Jokic is in the middle of one of the very best, and I do mean like top 2-3 all time peaks on offense by a center. He’s also the reigning 2X mvp like why do people make out like he’s not even a superstar? Also, Jokic in the last 4 years has already won more playoff series then Melo has (3) in 19 years. That Melo comparison was dumb as hell. Jokic is a 2X mvp, potentially more, Melo never even made a 1st team all nba.
@MineFullStop
@MineFullStop 2 жыл бұрын
So true
@johnhancock1362
@johnhancock1362 2 жыл бұрын
Top 2-3 all time? Alright let’s relaaaxxx lmao
@KleinpeterHank
@KleinpeterHank 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnhancock1362 You’re right it’s probably #2 behind only Shaq from 2000-2002.
@johnhancock1362
@johnhancock1362 2 жыл бұрын
@@KleinpeterHank say you don’t know basketball without saying you don’t know basketball
@prof.krastavaclee8795
@prof.krastavaclee8795 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnhancock1362 almost a triple double on almost 50 40 90, i think that's top 3 seasons by a center all time why not?
@alang8850
@alang8850 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this together. Jokic gets destroyed by many media commenters. It is interesting that Jokic when he was on the court the nuggets had an extremely good defensive rating and off the court they were a below average defensive team. His on/off is incredible. The comments that Draymind Green says about Jokic. Has he said those comments about anyone else. Finally, I love your point about other great who did not win championships, ie Charles Barkley. Larry Bird played with Kevin Mchale, Robert Parish and DJ, allstars. Magic with Kareem and James Worthy. Jordan with Pippen. Shawn with Kobe. Tim Duncan with Tony Parker and Manu Genobli. Golden State, with KlaybThompson, Draymind Green and for two years Kevin Durant, When and I hope they Michael Porter and Jamaal Murray and if they were at least as good as they were when Denver made the conference finals they still are not as good as any of the second best players on the LakersC Celtics, Bulls, San Antonio and Golden State. This ccommentatator is out of his mind. Comparing Jokic to Melo. I am a suffering Knick fan and if the Melo Knicks had Jokic instead they would have been a world better.
@danstenmou9913
@danstenmou9913 Жыл бұрын
Just checked and the video is from last year. Jokic in 2022/23 season just lead his Nuggets to their first championship despite being robbed of his third seasons MVP. The naysayers who disrespected Jokic were proven wrong this year and with the way Nuggets played and if they stay healthy, this will be a Dynastic team.
@kylestakes1439
@kylestakes1439 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh i also lost it when he said he takin Dbook over Jokic
@SuperSozaboy
@SuperSozaboy 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@SS-tz3qd
@SS-tz3qd Жыл бұрын
I still can't believe people thought this at any point lmao
@RomnysGonzalez
@RomnysGonzalez 6 ай бұрын
A year later... Jokic a NBA Champ...Final MVP... 2 games up against the Lakers...Booker getting a 1st round exist soon
@Thiccjimbobway
@Thiccjimbobway 2 жыл бұрын
he's literally one of the most dominant offensive centers we've ever seen, people just don't like him because it's not a run and dunk play style but instead fundamentals that are unstoppable. reminds me of the disrespect tim duncan gets
@markdraine3571
@markdraine3571 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The reality is that this Joker dude is one of the most multifaceted performers at the center position we will probably ever see. He won't ever be a Bill Russell on D but his facilitating and feel for the game is absolutely transcendent
@ReverendSam1
@ReverendSam1 2 жыл бұрын
It's not translating into any post season success! The nuggets pounded on the dubs all reg season & won every game, but could only muster up ONE win in the playoffs against them. I saw Murray in the"YMCA bubble"but......I need to see it in a real NBA atmosphere!!
@juju-vl7oj
@juju-vl7oj 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReverendSam1 2019 and 2020 Nuggets Jokic's first 2 all-star and all-nba seasons the Nuggets over achieved given expectations and roster, so it's extremely silly to blame him for not going further those 2 years. And now the last 2 mvp years he lost in the playoffs to the Suns fully healthy without Murray and Porter Jr. in his 2nd season and not even over 20ppg when scoring is his greatest skill, and this year lost to the eventual champs with both Murray and Porter out. Simple question: Name when in NBA history has a player gone further in the playoffs with less around them than Jokic while beating better teams to advance than Jokic? If you have any examples guarantee it was someone considered top 10 alltime.
@ReverendSam1
@ReverendSam1 2 жыл бұрын
@@juju-vl7oj SIR, that's too much to read 😳, If u think Jokic is something special great! He's on the clock tho', the teammates everyone said he needed will b back......it's time to show & prove!!
@dakotac1622
@dakotac1622 2 жыл бұрын
its clear that "analysts" just want another Shaq
@futureDreamer4
@futureDreamer4 2 жыл бұрын
The disrespect Giannis and Jokic gets pisses me off.
@nickc.4558
@nickc.4558 2 жыл бұрын
They respect Giannis cause they don't have anything to say about him anymore . They did the same thing to Dirk when he choked against the Warriors . It's the way media works with international players . Jokic will either be a steve nash or a dirk . If he wins a chip , that will put the slandering to sleep .
@itsallenwow
@itsallenwow 2 жыл бұрын
No one is disrespecting Giannis is this 2018?
@franciscorevuelta491
@franciscorevuelta491 2 жыл бұрын
xenophobia
@guybartlett9587
@guybartlett9587 2 жыл бұрын
It should
@colbykite8993
@colbykite8993 6 ай бұрын
what disrespect does jokic get hes -5000 to win mvp when luka, shai, and giannis all had better a season if anything hes overrated as fuck
@VLE-Grimace
@VLE-Grimace 2 жыл бұрын
This dude is talking about Jokic having such a unique set of skills that it limits his team and doesn’t work with just anybody but you could literally plug Jokic into any team/system and he would DRASTICALLY improve that team. It makes literally no sense, he’s one of the best all around players in the league with the exception of his defense, which has been improving year after year, the man can give you 40 whenever he wants with 13 rebounds and 10 assists. His basketball IQ is literally on another level like his mind works like a fucking computer when it comes to the game of basketball. It’s all good though, I can’t wait to see what they have to say when he inevitably wins a championship.
@ATF-
@ATF- 2 жыл бұрын
He's not winning a ring in Denver I hate to break it to you casual
@JasonTalksMunyun
@JasonTalksMunyun 2 жыл бұрын
@@ATF- L take
@grief6052
@grief6052 2 жыл бұрын
@@ATF- so? How is that a detriment on him as a player you “casual”? It’s a team game
@justc1re617
@justc1re617 2 жыл бұрын
@@ATF- bro what? Who are you calling casual they have a great core in place and I’m sure they’ll build on it throughout the rest of this decade. I’d be shocked if the Nuggets don’t win a ring within the next 5 years
@adelyahiamrain1626
@adelyahiamrain1626 Жыл бұрын
@@ATF-LOL
@KleinpeterHank
@KleinpeterHank Жыл бұрын
Pray for this man, he must be going through it rn 😂 8:26 oh God… LOW could do an update on how terrible this segment from this dude aged so bad at nearly every turn.
@abespeaks6718
@abespeaks6718 9 ай бұрын
The irony of this a yr later is HILARIOUS!! Jokic beats the Heat in the finals, outplaying Jimmy by a mile lol
@docd0071
@docd0071 Жыл бұрын
This age so well.
@sasaresanovic1885
@sasaresanovic1885 Жыл бұрын
This didn’t age well😂
@MahenS_R
@MahenS_R 2 жыл бұрын
This doesn't have that much value in the video but Jokic did send Melo packing in their one and only series they had to face each averaging 33/10/5 on 53/43/92.
@MichiganHendough
@MichiganHendough 2 жыл бұрын
Really not prime Melo weak take
@MahenS_R
@MahenS_R 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichiganHendough That is why I said this doesn't have any value cause Melo was on in his prime.
@sld1776
@sld1776 2 жыл бұрын
You run your offense through 'melo, and your offense is very inefficient, run your offense through Jokic, you get a historically great offense. Oh, and Jokic doesn't look like a great defender, but he became a great defender this year. His advanced defensive stats are through the roof.
@lucaswedderburn
@lucaswedderburn 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Why do people think he’s a liability on defense? So stupid
@legendarywiimaster
@legendarywiimaster 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucaswedderburn he was a liability at one point, but his defense has improved. I think it’s because he’s unable to switch on pick and rolls. Advanced metrics do say a lot however they don’t tell the full story sometimes
@lil_ezz120
@lil_ezz120 Жыл бұрын
Jokic beat everyone he named on that shitty would you rather ☠️ love hindsight
@maxt4290
@maxt4290 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for calling out this absolute bullshit. that dude has such a punchable face
@wakawaka1976
@wakawaka1976 6 ай бұрын
Our guy saw it and called it out
@nikolatesla3985
@nikolatesla3985 Жыл бұрын
This didn’t age well at all! Booker over Jokic? 😂😂😂😂
@cj.9738
@cj.9738 2 жыл бұрын
JJ Barea is better than Jokic, have you ever seen Jokic lock up LeBron? Didn't think so
@fazediamond5671
@fazediamond5671 2 жыл бұрын
L troll
@cj.9738
@cj.9738 2 жыл бұрын
@@fazediamond5671 i mean i thought it was pretty obvious that i'm joking lmao
@fazediamond5671
@fazediamond5671 2 жыл бұрын
@@cj.9738 ik it’s obvious that’s y it’s a troll
@_kemanismith
@_kemanismith 2 жыл бұрын
@@fazediamond5671 it was funny stop hating.
@MrBakerman58
@MrBakerman58 2 жыл бұрын
@@fazediamond5671 why can’t he make a joke
@vladimircurkoski1455
@vladimircurkoski1455 Жыл бұрын
10months later he's breaking records and winning playoffs MVP
@zombie92110
@zombie92110 Жыл бұрын
Who is here now that he is in the final posting historical stats ?
@DasGoose24
@DasGoose24 2 жыл бұрын
"He's dumb, this is dumb, its a dumb argument, your a dumb" 😂 I also agree with this statement whole heartedly
@universaldestro6399
@universaldestro6399 2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy because Giannis took his team one round deeper. But another nuance that the guy forgot is that Giannis faced the bulls in the first round. Jokic faced the GSW aka the eventual champions. Jokic didn’t go as deep as Giannis because his competition was better earlier on. SMH
@TheMilapMehta
@TheMilapMehta 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that Gianni still had Jrue Holiday. Jokic missed BOTH Murray and Porter. I would call the guy an idiot, but he unfortunately did his job and drew all the heat from the stupid take. He's just spineless.
@alexmammoth2916
@alexmammoth2916 Жыл бұрын
"I'd rather have Jimmy Butler." This take aged like the finest of milk. /not a shot at Butler
@peters4115
@peters4115 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen Jokic take a game off, consistently carrying the team especially at the end of games. Whereas Booker is a front runner and I’ve definitely seen him not want it when it came down to it (Game 7 last post season).
@joshjones1216
@joshjones1216 Жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard when you flipped out and walked away from the desk at that idiot saying he’d take Booker over Jokic! 😂 Great takes man I appreciate your basketball knowledge and passion for the game 🤘
@robustbottlecap
@robustbottlecap 2 жыл бұрын
I think some people still stuck in the old ways of watching the NBA, with all of the play for show and all. Guys with less flashy plays like Jokic and Giannis are being the undermined party nowadays because of their style of play
@jariuswilliams1296
@jariuswilliams1296 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly it's that "hooper" mentality, shit so stupid
@Nick-sr4fe
@Nick-sr4fe 2 жыл бұрын
Dawg I don’t understand how Jokic isn’t flashy though. Like I could literally sit and watch watch Jokic make great passes all day.
@Nick-sr4fe
@Nick-sr4fe 2 жыл бұрын
Actually same for Giannis too. Dude makes hella of amazing plays
@eric_t123
@eric_t123 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nick-sr4fe jokic highlights are one of my favourites to watch
@enthusiastofcute
@enthusiastofcute 2 жыл бұрын
I really don’t get the narrative that Jokic and Giannis are “boring”. I mean are we watching the same highlights or am I just tripping?
@ctk1604
@ctk1604 2 жыл бұрын
The year they lost in 7 to the trailblazers, they were the 8th youngest team in nba playoff history. Not to mention they were an out of bounds call away in 4OT from winning that series. The only other season they were relatively healthy, they made it to the WCF. Then the next season after the trade deadline, they were the best team in the nba until jamal went down. Idk why people aren’t seeing this.
@AvoryMiller
@AvoryMiller 6 ай бұрын
I found him. His name is Ben Lyons guest hosting The Rich Eisen Show. I had to find out who it was.
@dcdj35
@dcdj35 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched my Warriors win a title and host a parade. Make no mistake about it, Jokic was EASILY the toughest player I saw them play. They had no answer for him.
@Primitive_Code
@Primitive_Code 2 жыл бұрын
Green did a good job on him. But Warriors just let Jokic go off because none of the other guys helped and Denver was never a threat despite Jokic's 31, 13.
@poochymama2878
@poochymama2878 Жыл бұрын
7 months later and Jokic is averaging 25/12/11 on 70% TS on the best team in the west
@do_yohomework
@do_yohomework 2 жыл бұрын
I could watch this man watch legacy sports media all day
@scobeysnaxx2476
@scobeysnaxx2476 2 жыл бұрын
Its champions like you that keep me sane as a nuggets fan 😂 when morons like this who clearly havent watched more than the occasional game of bball are trying to tear Jok down. Channels like this need more love, or mainstream media needs to look at who theyre giving a voice to. Id rather listen to this man for 5 hours straight than hear a single thing from Kendrick Perkins and the scrubs they choose to hire at ESPN (with the occasional exception).
@scobeysnaxx2476
@scobeysnaxx2476 2 жыл бұрын
And its not just about Jokic slander. Its about general good analysis and quality of content.
@Nick-sr4fe
@Nick-sr4fe 2 жыл бұрын
Dawg I hope y’all win a chip with him. I expect y’all nuggets fans to push some nasty agendas if Jokic wins that ring
@scobeysnaxx2476
@scobeysnaxx2476 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nick-sr4fe 😂 Thanks. Me too. There’ll be nuggets fans out there making people eat crow if it happens, but I’ll be so content to have seen him prove them wrong 😁
@grief6052
@grief6052 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nick-sr4fe oh you know the “iron giant version of MJ” comparisons will come out as soon as the nuggets win lmao
@kcastro5921
@kcastro5921 2 жыл бұрын
They smoking crack, Booker was leading his team to top 5 draft picks before CP3 got there
@manz7860
@manz7860 2 жыл бұрын
Reverted back to his Pre Chis Paul form last post season during the luka special.
@blink182tothestars2
@blink182tothestars2 2 жыл бұрын
I swear bruh the international players are always getting hated on,Giannis,Luka,Jokic,Embid like what the the hell the last 2 mvps have been international players,but get no respect,it's just mind boggling
@TheMissiIe
@TheMissiIe 2 жыл бұрын
Give Jokic a healthy Murray and MPJ and he'll average 27/13/10, and the only thing stopping him from being the first player to 3-peat MVPs is the media hate
@kohsmoger1567
@kohsmoger1567 2 жыл бұрын
Not even Lebron or Giannis 3peated Jokic won’t
@MasterInHD
@MasterInHD 2 жыл бұрын
They didn’t want Steph (face of the league) to 3-peat because he had KD on 2017 even though AD & LeBron and KD & Kyrie both teaming didn’t hurt their standings. They’re not letting Jokic 3-peat lmao
@markokalabic3958
@markokalabic3958 2 жыл бұрын
@@MasterInHD what if he averages 31 14 11
@srdjanpajic2404
@srdjanpajic2404 2 жыл бұрын
With Murray and MPJ back healthy I doubt that Jokic will average 27 points, I believe there will be a small dip in his scoring, not that it's a bad thing, it's just the way he's going to play with them back in the roster, but I definitely can see him average a triple double for the season, with similar efficiency as always
@Primitive_Code
@Primitive_Code 2 жыл бұрын
@@srdjanpajic2404 Murray and MPJ have proven to be inconsistent. They may take some load off Jokic when they come back but remember how they disappeared in the bubble and next season playoffs? This will be a big problem for Denver since MPJ, Murray and Gordon can't produce even though they get all the hype. They take advantage of Jokic because he's too nice of a guy. Jokic deserves a better team so he can win championships. I say this as a nuggets fan.
@dylanspradling8293
@dylanspradling8293 2 жыл бұрын
41 of the last 43 nba finals have featured 1 of these 9 players is VERY misleading. Its accounting for all their losses, and not accounting for the teams that beat them. Tons of great players being left off CHAMPIONSHIP WINNING TEAMS.
@DKx1015
@DKx1015 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. It’s always painful to see “experts” spew nonsense and most of the mainstream sports media takes it and runs with it. Your breakdown actually makes sense and I look forward to hearing more content!
@panner11
@panner11 9 ай бұрын
Yeah how did this guy make it on tv. Low said it best, "this guy is dumb, he is dumb just dumb dumb dumb". Even though the take is bad/horrible, his reasoning explaining it is somehow 100x times worse. Like every word that comes out, the flaw in the logic is so obvious, yet he just keeps going and going. This is what stupid incarnate looks like.
@dans2568
@dans2568 2 жыл бұрын
Name one player who had 3 clutch blocked shots in last seconds?Jokić has 3 blocked shots past season!So much about defensive liability!
@VinceLyle2161
@VinceLyle2161 Жыл бұрын
I guarantee you, Rich Eisen called Ben Lyons up and said, "Thanks for filling in for me, but that take on Jokic was literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Good job of filling up the phone banks for three hours."
@jbmheat
@jbmheat 2 жыл бұрын
Devin booker couldn’t even make the playoffs without a 52 year old cp3, this man is sick
@ATF-
@ATF- 2 жыл бұрын
Annnnnnnnnd Booker is the reason Jokic hadn't made a deep playoff run
@zelsego23
@zelsego23 2 жыл бұрын
I mean Bookers team was god awful before cp3 got there
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 2 жыл бұрын
@@ATF- So, Booker caused Murray's injury?
@sokolsokolowski3411
@sokolsokolowski3411 6 ай бұрын
​@@penkima4923😂😂😂🤦
@Kickingit06
@Kickingit06 9 ай бұрын
Let's be real. Jokic would have two rings already if the league hadn't done that hit job on the Nuggets in 2020.
@brendanpower1890
@brendanpower1890 7 ай бұрын
I was doing school work and this video started playing and I literally had to stop and see when this was posted because I was like what the fuck is this guy talking about 😂😂😂
@boatsanhs9709
@boatsanhs9709 6 ай бұрын
That guy literally shouldn’t be allowed to talk sports
@marcosfigueroa4521
@marcosfigueroa4521 6 ай бұрын
This dude, whoever he is, should be pals with Kendrick Perkins.
@aminurrrr0621
@aminurrrr0621 6 ай бұрын
And Gilbert Arenas
@srautocentarbobot701
@srautocentarbobot701 Жыл бұрын
this aged well
@tubfrog
@tubfrog 2 жыл бұрын
I coulda sworn I’ve seen this video before but then I remembered Kenny did a video roasting this dude too. Thought I was in the twilight zone for a far minute
@Quickslvr_Gaming
@Quickslvr_Gaming 6 ай бұрын
Can we come back to this take?
@Gamer_Cafe
@Gamer_Cafe 2 жыл бұрын
To add to your arguments what makes Jokic special is his passing. Pretty sure it's been proven that pass first players can play in damn near any offense. I think you stick him on any team and he will show out
@rollingpaper-x2u
@rollingpaper-x2u 6 ай бұрын
Imagine saying you would rather have booker over jokic now lol
@nikosclips.
@nikosclips. 2 жыл бұрын
An MVP not being a top 10 player is laughable
@bradyogden8308
@bradyogden8308 2 жыл бұрын
Man it’s fans too, I see international players get so much unwarranted hate it’s ridiculous
@jrthehunter4309
@jrthehunter4309 2 жыл бұрын
11:28 "I don't think he can take the nuggets over the top as the best player in a championship team" Literally only 5 current players in this generation have proven that they can do that. LeBron, Curry, Kawhi, Giannis, and KD.
@CiCLoDoL
@CiCLoDoL 2 жыл бұрын
KD? Anyone would win on that Warriors team.
@jrthehunter4309
@jrthehunter4309 2 жыл бұрын
@@CiCLoDoL I was just saying KD to be nice 😂. Didn't want to open that bag of worms
@ЛукаТ-э3э
@ЛукаТ-э3э 2 жыл бұрын
All of them had the better 2nd and 3rd best player
@JoelKleppinger
@JoelKleppinger 2 жыл бұрын
@@ЛукаТ-э3э Not sure I understand you correctly. LeBron and Curry faced each other twice without KD, Finals score 1-1. Kyrie was likely better than Klay/Draymond, but both the Warriors were much better than Kevin Love. So what does that say about the 2nd and 3rd best player?
@grief6052
@grief6052 2 жыл бұрын
4*, KD isnt well rounded enough for a carry like that
@michaelruiz8076
@michaelruiz8076 Жыл бұрын
11:28 *sips tea* this has aged well
@michaelmcphee2006
@michaelmcphee2006 2 жыл бұрын
1) Of course you build your offence around Jokic, because he at least a top 5 offensive engine in the league. But he's also great when you are running the ball through someone else. Case in point; against Utah. Murray was going off so the offence was often him deuling with Mitchell. Mitchell was actually a bit better but the difference was Jokic was there to be the quiet difference maker, especially stepping up in the final game when Jamal was burnt out. 2) He's a defensive liability against GSW, and to be honest they are always going to be a bad match up. But he's turned into an above average defender against most teams. 3) I will accept the opinion that Luka or Embiid is better (I also will accept the opposite), but not Jimmy, and definitely not Booker. Someone like Booker is replaceable with any other scorer. There is no replacement for Jokic.
@Yorozuya4ever
@Yorozuya4ever 2 жыл бұрын
Love this insight
@grief6052
@grief6052 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if embiid is better than jokic honestly i just cant see it, and even against GSW he did well enough to not be considered a “liability” in defense
@michaelmcphee2006
@michaelmcphee2006 2 жыл бұрын
@@grief6052 I don't think Embiid is better than him either, I just think its an acceptable opinion.
@grief6052
@grief6052 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmcphee2006 im curious why u think that btw
@michaelmcphee2006
@michaelmcphee2006 2 жыл бұрын
@@grief6052 WHY i think what? I'm happy to answer, just not sure what you're asking.
@Axiermopc
@Axiermopc 6 ай бұрын
"It can only take you so far" so hmmm winning the championship?
@bobnorbaka6268
@bobnorbaka6268 Жыл бұрын
Damn this take aged horribly. Jokic won as the first option. The idiots who runnpodcasts
@amielbenedictmirasol6808
@amielbenedictmirasol6808 2 жыл бұрын
Jokic carried the nuggets to play off appearance booker has not done that before cp3 came Jokic scored 37 6 8 in game 4 And scored 30 19 8 in game 5 Book scored 19 pts in game 6 and 11 in game 7
@manzac112
@manzac112 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind, the Phoenix Suns were a damn car crash of a franchise during the 2010s.
@Stretch79
@Stretch79 6 ай бұрын
And he was never heard from again lol
@AndreLeitedaSilvaGaldino
@AndreLeitedaSilvaGaldino 6 ай бұрын
As my grandfather used to say: Some people are too stupid and unaware, to take what they say seriously!
@sokolsokolowski3411
@sokolsokolowski3411 6 ай бұрын
Exactly and my grandfather told me the worst people are folks who don't even know what they don't know. So they can't improve😂
@tonyl9636
@tonyl9636 Жыл бұрын
Michael Jordan was 28 when he won his first championship...
@mpower32a
@mpower32a 9 ай бұрын
that didn age well
@platinumpengwinmusic5564
@platinumpengwinmusic5564 6 ай бұрын
*This video gets better every game.*
@og_mante5138
@og_mante5138 6 ай бұрын
This video just keeps getting better😂
@fk779
@fk779 6 ай бұрын
Did i miss something about Melos career? i Must have forgotten about his MVP title and his championships...
@janitorialjargon2411
@janitorialjargon2411 2 жыл бұрын
I just don't understand why people can't talk about Jokic the right way. He's proven that he is dangerous just by himself and given that he's accomplished so much without his teammates really highlights how scary this Nuggets team could really be.
@MrNoodle223
@MrNoodle223 6 ай бұрын
Algorithm brought me here 😅. Wonder if that guy is still saying that nonsense
@richardlawrence6497
@richardlawrence6497 Жыл бұрын
Bwahahaha.....where's that guy now. I'll take a Jokic TD over Bookers 12 pts all day, any day
@joehenry709
@joehenry709 6 ай бұрын
He can only take the team so far! Yeah to a championship
@aor_254
@aor_254 Жыл бұрын
That analyst's take is looking reaaaal bad after the 2023 playoffs
@takio717
@takio717 2 жыл бұрын
Love how you commented that plunker! Greetings from Rhodes all love for Jokic and Giannis
@boydriceisawesome2520
@boydriceisawesome2520 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing I disagree with is Aaron Gordon he had a great season for his standards
@veronicafoxx27
@veronicafoxx27 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to have found this channel. I thought I was alone
@NateMcCoy1194
@NateMcCoy1194 2 жыл бұрын
I swear athletes who are not from here are either slept on or disrespected. Fox and ESPN does it with Giannis, they’ve done it with Luka on occasion, Jokic is probably the most disrespected by KZbinrs and Mainstream Sports Media.
@sameer3853
@sameer3853 2 жыл бұрын
GOD DAMN LOW I BEEN WAIIITING FOR YOU TO POST
@jaredrubino1889
@jaredrubino1889 2 жыл бұрын
It frustrates me how smug and confident that dude is about such an embarrassing take. Who gave that dude a mic
@alexbank4879
@alexbank4879 6 ай бұрын
When he walked off after bro said he'd rather have Booker jajajajajjajajajajajajajaja
@zan3zan344
@zan3zan344 Жыл бұрын
a championship later....
@SpeedHomeAttack
@SpeedHomeAttack 2 жыл бұрын
This just proves that not everyone needs a show/podcast. All because you watch sports doesn’t make you a sports analyst, especially not a good one. The main media is filled with so many people that are garbage and extremely biased. I don’t know what it is with the media hating on European players so much.
@HobbesJnr
@HobbesJnr 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Jokic with a healthy squad to put up insane numbers and get 5th in MVP voting purely from voter fatigue Media disrespect for Jokic is beyond confusing.
@HobbesJnr
@HobbesJnr 2 жыл бұрын
@AEyeah man you're right, i guess since it is those personalities that's why it so annoying
@ryanramirezvirola5450
@ryanramirezvirola5450 2 жыл бұрын
This Channel is fr underrated !
@airfruitfly
@airfruitfly Жыл бұрын
His take didn’t age to well 😂
@datyellaman447
@datyellaman447 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, big fan bruh, great takes!
@Celiousss
@Celiousss Жыл бұрын
Now jokic won a chip so I wonder what he saying now that jokic has indeed won.
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