Nikola Tesla's Pulse Detonation Engine - CDI Spark vs Plasma Spark Ignition

[@EnterTheRealm]

Could you point me In the right direction on how to make this set up. Love the video mate.

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

I open sourced it on my Patreon. This wb address is www.patreon.com/TeslaTurbo It's one of the oldest posts.

[@far1002]

Why isn't this used on car so if add a diode to the postive lead im guessing. Its just canceling one of the ac current wave turning it into high voltage dc. But how long do the spark plugs live.. This would be perfect for a mazda rotary..

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

@@far1002 truth is that it enables plasma which doesn’t erode like a spark does on a spark plug. That would enable two things. 1. The plasma plugs would last a very long time if the right metal was used. 2. The supposed perfect air / fuel mix “lambda” 14.7 parts air to 1 part fuel, something that engine ecus are designed to try and maintain no matter what would go out of the window as you get a cleaner burn using high voltage plasma. It’s like comparing normal ignition to plasma ignition as candle vs dynamite. Tesla invented capacitive discharge ignition and it was used on Spitfires and also Saab’s until they went bust. Known in the auto electrical motor trade as one of the ignition systems to be most careful working on. If you’ve ever been shocked by a normal 12v ignition coil you will appreciate that these very low ohm ignition coils have 12v upped to around 400v and then discharged from a capacitor. The HV diode placed in the correct place allows a greater amount of energy to be discharged in a shorter amount of time. Perhaps someday I’ll get the equipment to be able to show the waveforms of before and after on a scope. I’ve since bought a controller to enable 660hz... I can go higher with another bit of kit. I do want to explore Tesla’s method of burning nitrogen and combining it with cold steam to produce nitrates and ammonia. Making fertiliser is one of the unknown research and development areas of Tesla.

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

@@far1002 most cars haven’t got CDI ignition, low ohm coils or low to zero resistance leads. Granatelli has patent on the 0 ohm spark plug leads and then have ferrite rings each end which is what is protected by the patent.

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

@@far1002 Search “Ignition Secrets” by Aaron Murakami. He is the source of bringing plasma ignition from the shadows into the light. He has some videos on KZbin with the ignition system fitted to a vehicle.

[@oxiigen]

A difference is evident indeed! Thank you for sharing!

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

You're welcome!

[@gracie99999]

sounds pretty damn cool that could be manipulated..soo cool man

[@oxiigen]

Really glad to hear from you again! Stay strong mate!

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

We are back... now there is a number of us! :-)

[@oxiigen]

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre You know you make me happy my friend!:)

[@satyanarayan4488]

Please mention the stuff you've used for plasma ignition.

[@estebahngold7713]

Fascination s resonator on end of it to amplify it million times .

[@MechanicForGMCCars]

Well I did try out plasma ignition it works best with light weight fuel types but there is a catch i experianced faster starter motor turning me alternator who is 10si delco model cinde of displaced the starting charge rpm from 1000 rpm up to 2500 rpm so any ideas how I solve that grounding problem ? I dont have on me europ version 10si alternator I do not have resistor ore capacitor inside that alternator how can I solve that peoblem? If it can increase starting charge so I was wondering can centrain capacitors reduce starting charge for alternators? Definatly it works smuther motor faster but like told before it depends on enviroment and fuel type used

[@TravisTellsTruths]

Wow, that's a beastly spark.

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

I certainly wouldn't want to touch it... CDI alone can apparently kill you with 40kv from a cap discharge. I wouldn't want to test the theory. I have had enough 20kv zaps from basic ignition systems.

[@firozmusthafa]

There are 2 problems i experienced with plasma ignition 1. Spark plug eroded pretty fast 2. When spark plug tips oxidizes, spark intensity drastically reduces

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

Were you using off the shelf plasma ignition plugs, resistive plugs or non resistive plugs? The beauty about the apparatus we are using it with is the ignition source just allows the chamber to get hot and then self ignition occurs. To be fair a glow plug can be used instead but of course has a much higher current draw. Also you can't here the glow plug is on.

[@firozmusthafa]

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre I made the plasma unit myself using inverter and high voltage diode setup Used it for 2 years and after inverter failed did not bother repairing it and scrapped it. Figured it was making a hole in my pocket, buying non resistive spark plug all the time.

[@flappingflight8537]

@@firozmusthafa did you experience some improvements in the power , fuel consumption , start , idle, etc.? What was the power of your inverter and what voltage it was providing to the spark plug via HV diode ? Thanks in advance !

[@firozmusthafa]

@@flappingflight8537 there indeed is some. Minor improvements are noticeable when we pay extra attention. Plasma becomes very useful when capacitance is increased to a point when spark plug vaporizes within minutes (you can see experiments in my channel) I used chinese 60watt 540volt ac inverter

[@flappingflight8537]

@@firozmusthafa thanks for your reply ! Have you tried to use inductor between the capacitor and the HV diode( in series with the diode) It will extend the spark discharge duration and will limit the initial rush current which is eroding the spark plug electrodes but wouldn’t waste the discharge energy as the spark plug resistor .

[@ameyamahadik30]

Wow! That's awesome

[@honda4004]

would it be better to have non resistor spark plugs . also would you sell a unit for a 4 cylinder petrol engine ,i am researching the joe papp engine and ion energy by air plasma disruption but in a sealed car engine under vacuum . im in bolsover britain sounds like your not far

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

Hi, it is a non resistor spark spark plug. Sorry but I haven't got any units for sale. Sounds like you have some interesting projects on the go.

[@markhuebner7580]

Lot of unanswered questions, voltage, coil parameters, input waveform, frequency?

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

12v / 14.4v DC input to off the shelf CDI ignition system which outputs about 400v to a Petronix Flame Thrower III ignition coil. Square wave to 5 pin automotive relay to white wire of CDI system. Could go up to 660hz with a transistor rather than electromechanical relay. Currently just doing 10 - 90hz from memory. The discovery was that Tesla planned on using the ignition system for initial ignition to warm the chamber up.

[@honda4004]

Hi could you point me to how to build it . Electronics are stalling me and I'm told a magnetron or neon sign transformer could carry it out cheers

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

If you building plasma ignition for the pulse detonation engine as you can just use a glow plug instead. Once the heat of the chamber is hot enough you don't need the spark. If you want to know everything about the plasma ignition follow this link: www.ignitionsecrets.com

[@FilterYT]

Would be good to see the PDE run with and without the diode, you could see the difference it makes.

[@FilterYT]

Yeah, it's amazing the difference in how it spark looks, I appreciate the raw footage you have been sharing.

[@ronarmstrong835]

I've been looking at a lot of these designs over the last week. Its as though Krupa and his spark plugs just disappered.

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

Hi Ron, who is Krupa? Plugs with no electrode do exist. The beauty about Tesla’s design is it only needs a heat source to get it self igniting.

[@tanner1985]

Just a question: so why they build the spark plugs with a leg? Second question: when you say "it's plasma spark" is it just the feeding circuit that makes plasma or is a special spark plug that is qualified as "plasma spark plug"?

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

I had seen plasma spark plugs off the shelf and they had not leg at all. I could have machined the leg off and that might have been even better. I hope to fire this up again in 2022 with much higher frequency and push the limits to see what happens!

[@tisserandstephane7845]

Resistor vs resistor less NGK spark plug . What is the right choice to get ignition booster ?

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

Use the spark plugs and leads with the lowest resistance you can find. Granatelli have a patented 0 ohm spark plug wire whith has what looks like ferrous rings each end for the interference suppression.

[@briangattrell2195]

I watched a video that found that at a certain pressure and temperature water becomes conductive. I believe that's where Stanley Meyers got to with his water injection before his untimely death

[@travismoore7849]

What if you fill your gas tank with water and try that on a lawn mower engine. Will the plasma arc make a water mist explosive cavitation effect?

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

If you want to try that route I recommend reading Aaron's work. I used an off the shelf CDI unit. If you can build you own circuits and upgrade the capacitive discharge, the addition of water does some unseen things. www.ignitionsecrets.com

[@travismoore7849]

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre What about just using a small bike carb jetted extra lean and a voltage multiplier on the magneto?

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

@@travismoore7849 I'm not sure, you would have to try it. Basic experiments will at least teach you something.

[@finalfiend]

Maybe an obvious question.... Which direction does the diode point?

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

Back to the coil. But if you get it wrong, it won't work.

[@zerosyn6035]

i dont know where to start! what should i know so i can make a hovercraft , antigrav stuff, water run cars or achieve OU ?

[@zenmanproject]

Easy. Start with Khan Academy, learn some general theory. Then find something on KZbin see someone do it in action, go back to khan academy and learn more specific theory, go back to youtube, realize you didn't understand what they were talking about and now you're a little smarter... then go to amazon, buy a bunch of shit, then go to your garage and build it. Then fail. Then do the whole process again which profoundly more knowledge.

[@stevenelson886]

@@icarossavvides2641 well reality is a cruel son of a bitch. But reality is a far better teacher than a random dude on the internet. Some items on the list are easily achievable. Hovercraft... (leaf blower and a sheet of plywood) water power (Electrolysis with water, capture the H2 and O2 gasses, then combust the H2) Others require pixie dust antigrav (go study quantum theory and realize your math skills are amateur at best) and over unity (no. just no. breaks 1st law of thermodynamics needs pixie dust) I could give him the answers or he could discover it all on his own. It's been 9 months, so I feel ok revealing the need for pixie dust.

[@steadyeddy6526]

Can this be adapted to a typical vehicles engine?

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

Not typical engines but to Tesla turbines and vacuum pumps yes.

[@petersmith4180]

The only purpose is a starter motor for the dual turbine?

[@Barskor1]

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre What temperature are you considering water to be cold for this system?

[@Barskor1]

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre Yes lower pressure lower energy inputs to achieve steam equals lower resistance to condensation or implosion

[@Barskor1]

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre That is good because at high enough rmp I think freezing is likely to occur and only continuous flow will prevent it.

[@Barskor1]

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre Indeed there are a number of ways to keep it from freezing up but it is nice to see it can go to extremes and still function.

[@Barskor1]

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre Nice, the energy requirements to inject the air are minimal as starting pressure is near equal!

[@ScaniaFung]

would you make a tesla turbine drive by pulse jet?

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

Totally! But after 250hz it becomes a detonation according to Wikipedia.

[@obafemiemmanuel5743]

i need a spark plugs that has pulse circuit

[@douggale5962]

Just imagine how much EMI that would be blasting out.

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

Exactly the reason I want a spectrum analyser. Now optimised somewhat the ignition only needs to be on for less than 10 seconds and then self ignition occurs. Some would argue that plasma produces LMD waves rather than transverse waves. I think using a sophisticated spectrum analyser would be the only way to prove the EMR part of that discussion. Tesla did have gauges for measuring LMD waves, this is how he started to measure lightning and how long it took to reflect. British Patent 8,200 Fig 2 for example.

[@johnf3326]

Which way round is the diode? Also have seen this with a small capacitor between the ht and ground. Which if any is better? Or use both?! Would a plug with the ground electrode removed work under the high pressures of the combustion chamber? Plug gap is normally critical. Finally, if this system is so efficient, why isnt it used on ALL petrol cars? Such a cheap mod to get better economy? Or is any effect negligible?

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

1. Pointing towards the coil. If you get it backwards, it just won't work. 2. I've not seen that before, not sure. Aaron Murakami would likely know the answer to that. 3. There are actual spark plugs designed for this type of ignition. I've got a photo somewhere. I meant to buy some. 4. I think the answer lies in that technology is drip fed and much better technology than what we currently have now has been available for well over 100 years. The reason we don't have many of Nikola Tesla's inventions is because he didn't believe in inventing things with planned obsolescence. Morals over capitalism every time. There is no conspiracy theory here but a sad story of the financiers choosing technologies that in their eyes, they could string out their profits for much longer. Capitalism hasn't done the earth much good though has it. Ultimately the piston engine is completely flawed in so many ways, but for now it is useful whilst we transition to something simpler with no planned obsolescence. The motor manufacturers are not going to lead the way. The people are going to have to retro fit themselves. I've been working on Tesla's solution for this for many years.

[@oxiigen]

I have a question you might know, what kind of material i could use to seal a connection between metal vacuum chamber and a glass bell? Some CRT vacuum tubes use some kind of glue material but i have no idea how it is called or what composites they use. Do you know maybe?

[@oxiigen]

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre That is helpful. Thank you! More i research more i see that is not that simple as i thought it will be..:)

[@oxiigen]

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre I knew that you will provide the most useful advice, ha! Thank you very much!

[@bimsautotechgallery6510]

what capacitor do you used..?

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

Just the one that is built into the CDI unit. No idea what capacitor it is. I've never needed to open it up...

[@ScaniaFung]

what the fine wire done for?

[@RobertBercovitz]

awesome

[@Leo.Wirabuana]

you should use a tripod to make things easier.

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

Yeah that's been sorted now.

[@devilswish8876]

yes it works how ever I use ceramic capacitors on positive and negative electrode on the spark plug it self my setup was old singel coil hei with induction triger and 4pin gm ignition module yep definatly work how ever the set up works best with out resistance components you need perfomance parts probably special spark plugs who can handel plazma ignition by the way it works on eather side of the ignition coil it does not mather polarity the more you add ceramic capacitors in series the stronger the spark I dono what it does to economy but I wanted to run on disel on a gasoline engine some engines are known to by half disel like holden suzuki gm opel some japanes cars my car is a sohc engine they have normaly higher compresion ration the old tractors use compresion ignition no heaters and they use air/oil cooling systems old tehnology but bulet prof probably can by aplied to a car expecialy with governores removed and shity senzors it works best on old cars who dont have that staff you must posibly retarde ignition timing and have a variabel carburetor to lean out mixtures related to this artikel is plazma ignition,plazma generator at exaust,closed system engines,dual ignition waste spark,multi grade fuel runing engines,hot/cold runimg engines,internal/external burning engines,not a suprise realy evry thing goes back to the original ignition system called "dc magneto" no spark plugs ore other crap just 1 wire screwed on the engine block! so hopefully this helps some one cars dont run like described bouth gasoline and disel run on compresion ignition they are the same who many peopel dont know ore are not teached properly they are alredy hybred cars

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

The plasma ignition isn't even needed. You can use a glow plug instead. You just need to heat the chamber up to get it to fire initially.

[@jokekelleey2071]

Can we produce enough electric spark plasma to create a power combustion for the engine so basically you're just burning pure air it breaks down the air the H2O at the same time it burns it

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

It appears from our research that Tesla's intention was ionizing nitrogen and using the shock waves to spin the rotor. The most abundant gas in the world, why wouldn't you want to try and harness the normally inert gas.

[@peterdarr383]

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre Since Nitrogen is about 80% of air, ionizing a significant portion would end up producing HUGE amounts of NOX gasses - or PURE SMOG ??

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

@@peterdarr383 Tesla's scheme is to fix the nitrogen with the steam to form NO2, NO3 and distilled water. He spent a long time figuring out how to ionize nitrogen more easily using vacuum and or high voltage / frequency, and, how to fix the compounds. He said it would bring incalculable benefit to mankind. Do a CTRL F search for "benefit" and read around these parts. Also search the word "nitrogen". teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/problem-increasing-human-energy There are many other references but they are scattered among many articles. Nitrogen shock waves are his ultimate energy source mixed with atmospheric pressure and water. Or you can just run it off the heat of whatever you can think of. Which is no good for something mobile, unless its pretty big. Ultimately this could be a nitrogen shock wave / steam rotating detonation engine with liquid fertilizer emissions.

[@zenmanproject]

You need a $10 tripod!

[@zenmanproject]

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre They cost a hell of a lot more than a tripod! I just bought one of these for teaching my math classes over zoom. It's small, but works well for close up shots. smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07X2J15G1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@SuputraBharathi]

Stuffs in your channel looks cool . Will you make me an Apprentice. I dont want payment. Food water and a place to sleep is enough

[@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre]

One day I would love to take on apprentices. I'll let you know if we ever get to that stage!

[@zenmanproject]

This guy did a cool comparison of off the shelf spark plugs. He found some of the fancier designs were about 2-3% more fuel efficient, which surprises me. It'd be interesting to see if there is a difference with your setup. The engineer in me is skeptical, but that is irrelevant! Empirical evidence is all that matters. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJS5d2augcSZsM0

[@zenmanproject]

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre He tested one that said it had a built in capacitor in it, seems similar to yours, but the spark was clearly smaller. Plasma *should* produce a considerably hotter spark. I'm curious if it will make any difference. The flash point of gasoline + O2 is around 260C, clearly a NTK spark plug can achieve that temperature. So does a plasma spark that's 500C or 1500C make any difference? Once the fuel is over the threshold to combust, it should provide a chain reaction to ignite the rest of the fuel in the chamber. I'm not sure how this will be useful, but maybe this could become effective for fuels with a really high flash point? Maybe you could use Beryllium as a fuel. It's twice as energy dense as gasoline but it's boiling point is 2400C. :-)

[@kazelroy]

lets see some water explode! you can't give a build up like that and just, not deliver

[@kazelroy]

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre thanks I'll check that out! it's a work in progress man i get it. keep up the good work!

[@cushionofair]

Have you heard of Fire storm spark plugs they where similar that they used plasma and and instead of no leg had a ball and a cross wise piece of metal that went around it . kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5PaiXSmoLGbmMU

[@vodoroda9449]

@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre www.hho4free.com/spark%20plug%20howtomakeplasmaplugs.pdf kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHO5hWOQg8tliqs www.hho4free.com/

[@SharhbiniRauf]

Plasma spark ignition = multi fuel.

[@kbwaldron]

Buy a tripod!!!

[@gregsmith8032]

NGK BUHW