Nikolas Cruz's 15-year-old victim likely on ground when fatally shot in neck, med. examiner says

[@DeeDee40ful]

The doctor's credentials are extremely impressive. I can't imagine the pain the parents and family members are going through.

[@CCCC-rw9hx]

@cpw vuk fo

[@CCCC-rw9hx]

So sad. I can't imagine and yet they HAVE to be there,for their child's memory and closure.

[@Ambah818]

His mom's grieve just crushes me as a mom. I think anyone with a lick of empathy would have feeling for this. 😞😭

[@KoloheSF]

@@Ambah818 Not Cruz. He did not shed one tear (that I noticed) during medical examiner testimonies or impact statements where even most of his own defense team were blubbering messes. They sure drew shitty straws as public defenders to be assigned to represent this evil monster. Being completely devoid of empathy is how someone could do such heinous acts of violence and cruelty. God bless his poor mom and dad. 💔

[@livefromthe757]

A gentleman & a scholar ... dude's a hero.

[@MillennialLifeAndFinances]

of all of the medical examiners that testified, I have to say....Dr. Tops was probably the most compelling. No doubt, ALL of the victims suffered a horrible death. But, Dr. Tops made it very clear how horrific these injuries were. My heart goes out to all of the victims and their parents

[@BlueSmokie]

Yeah! Not a lot of medical words, easy to understand how horrible what happened!

[@melaniekathleen4098]

Yes, he's a brilliant man. He keeps his terminology simple for all people to be able to understand. This must have been very difficult for the family to hear. Those details would add to the devastation. NO kid should go to school, and not come home. NO kid should have to have drills on how to act in these events, because these events should not be happening. I'm praying for all these families. R.I.P to these victims......

[@johannawigg6921]

He humanized the medical terminology

[@cynthiadavid5282]

My heart goes out to the families that have to relive this night mare please put this kid in prison for the rest of his sorry life no no parole i wonder if he has any remorse for what he did or does he not care

[@melaniekathleen4098]

@@cynthiadavid5282 hopefully he has some type of remorse/guilt. How can he not!?!? Then again, in the first place, who does what he does? It takes a certain kind of "sick/mentally ill" to do what he did!! I just hope the victim's families can find some sort of peace..... It puts me in mind of Carrie Underwood's song called The Bullet. Give it a listen. It's a good song......

[@JG4LPYL]

I love how professional he is and how he explains everything clearly. Making sure EVERYONE understands the amount of trauma these babies suffered. What a terrible terrible experience for everyone.

[@nr3858]

@Antinatalist Shut up

[@makeupchick9544]

@@iiLoveAutumn They were someone's babies.

[@iiLoveAutumn]

@@makeupchick9544 so was Cruz then a Baby killing Babies?

[@Emboarepic]

They were in their teenage years 9th grade, 10th grade, 11th grade, 12th grade.

[@HB-yg3ke]

@@Emboarepicthose are babies. Their whole lives ahead of them. All with dreams and skills that they’ll never get to exceed or fulfill. Just babies new to all that was to come from life.

[@leslovesart]

My god. The strength it would take having to listen to the gruesome details of how your child died is so absolutely horrific, it’s just inconceivable. My heart bleeds for all of these parents brothers sister grandparents, my god

[@ReyKaf]

Maybe, probably, they already knew about it. If I'm one of the parents and I hear about all this details about how my child died, I would have cried and hyperventilate imagining it

[@bigpooper69420]

@@ReyKaf they probably had to identify their kids :( so they probably knew at least partially the gruesomeness, but to hear it all read outloud in an autopsy report in court WITH the killer there... man that sounds gut wrenching

[@perfectlyimperfect628]

Idk how they kept their composure!!!! To have to identify your child is one thing but to actually hear the details of what the bullets did is entirely another & with the killer sitting right there....... I Can't Even Imagine the Pain their going thru!!!!! God Bless 'em!!!!!

[@levornspencer5752]

Horrific, capital G for God.

[@laurenferrell6013]

His explanation of how that young man died from his wounds adds a WHOLE OTHER DEMONIC LEVEL to this! My heart absolutely breaks for his mom and dad sitting there and listening to the way their son died a slow and painful death. May God comfort them tremendously!!!!!!

[@BMarie774]

While it might be hard for them to hear, this was absolutely necessary and I’m so glad he did this. He needed to paint this picture for the world and the jury. Those children suffered terribly and we should know how. And more importantly, we should acknowledge that suffering with justice.

[@oldaccount5217]

@@BMarie774 why is it our business to know? It would be nice if the government could pull out military from an occupied country successfully and station 2 soldiers in every school instead. They could even have a piece of equipment in the parking lot instead of abandoning it in Afghanistan. I’m sure that would discourage any shooter with a “powerful AR” How about instead of scaring the public with testimony they put fear into the hearts of the killers instead? Why do they only teach schools Sex Ed to ensure population doesn’t grow, instead of also teaching firearm safety to save lives? Because more people die from accidents using firearms than shootings. But people also die from cars way more. Even fists kill more people. My point is that showing an entire world of strangers the pain of grieving parents and how effective these firearms are at defense to invoke fear and entertainment is wrong. They are making so much money on this the parents will never see. These rifles are to remain available in case of government oppression. With pistols we wouldn’t stand a chance in hell.

[@Goldrefinedthrufire]

@@oldaccount5217 it's not to put fear in us. It's so the jury decides the death penalty over life in prison. He is the states witness for a reason.

[@lisahale2026]

​@@oldaccount5217 "why is it our business to know?" ... no one is forcing you to watch this.

[@NerderDame]

@@oldaccount5217 While I do agree we should be teaching about firearm safety, Sex Ed is more to stop teenagers having unsafe sex that leads to teen pregnancies. Also a military soldier in schools wouldn't help, plus very odd. They put security guards and some police personnel in schools since 2015/16. Do wonder what happened? Some of those left their guns in bathrooms and common areas kids would be around multiple times. A kid would now have access to a gun if they stole the gun. Don't even think about arming the teachers cause it would also be easy for a kid to steal it from the teacher. There has already been a teacher that brought a gun into school and barricaded his classroom, just suiciding basically. The students and staff members didn't see any changes in behavior and the posts leading up to it was happy, inspiring, quotes or comments. People snap for one reason or another. It should be that we pull back on gun manufacturing, Take away the unnecessary weapons you can legally buy right now, better access to therapy or physiatrists and stricter gun laws. Cause we make more guns then our whole population, and you can buy a grenade launcher and flame throwers. The main thing people say is that they buy a gun to protect themselves, well more guns equals more problems.

[@robwernet9609]

The doctors background (specifically his stint in the airforce doing autopsies on American servicemen who were k.i.a. during o.i.f. and the g.w.o.t) make him specifically qualified to explain what gunshot wounds do to a person in terms of the traumatic injuries made by high velocity rifle rounds due to the ballistics and kinetic qualities these rounds have.

[@exoticalBecky_Miami]

This doctor's military background overseas prepared him to handle injuries from going to school in America... When I let that sink in...:(

[@eva5601]

O.k. If you would have explained yourself more like a civilian instead of writing abbreviations. I would have understood you.

[@matthewbrooks1556]

It’s not a military thing, it’s everywhere. Everyone seems to use acronyms excessively nowadays.

[@nillyk5671]

It's sad that such a background is needed to explain the wounds on a kid that was simply at school. I will never understand why the U.S. is doing nothing about gun laws.

[@dvrkmvtterx]

@@nillyk5671 obamas america

[@nadiaanastasia3873]

This man is so incredibly accomplished. I’m just blown away. It’s such a devastatingly unfortunate circumstance to be introduced to this remarkable human being but I have to mention this!

[@allyvogel6375]

This is incredibly well-put

[@babayaga489]

He is remarkable.

[@CazBeaunont]

To sit there and listen in detail to the injuries your child has suffered takes real strength. I’m not sure I could do the same. The parents show real courage and I hope the evil thing gets what it deserves

[@alexandershaw2378]

*"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high **_places."_* ~ Ephesians 6:12 KJV.

[@dancarlso4439]

he’s still human

[@cathymackes4064]

It's because even though you don't want to know, you have to know...

[@daniv7919]

@@dancarlso4439 shouldn’t really matter when he took away the lives of so many living and breathing people. No one told him to do what he did. He deserves no mercy

[@malovina]

I don’t think I could either.although it would give me closure

[@jamieyahtzee769]

You can see when he said “he could have been saved” just broke his parents heart.

[@xenophagia]

He was saying that specifically for the second wound, and only if he received immediate medical attention. Tragically though, the first wound was fatal. I'm not trying to be cold or anything, just clarifying. Regardless, their heartbreak is very real, of course. I think that goes without saying.

[@SamanthaSweets]

@@SethiozProject wtf??? Omg I can u even compare?? The nerve of u 🤬🤬🤬

[@danyellemilam4483]

@@SethiozProject sounds like you’re traveling down the same path as Cruz and you need to be reported to your local authorities before you kill 17 people.

[@FreeTheTrolls]

@@SamanthaSweets report him.

[@Elijah_MadeNTexas]

@@SamanthaSweets He just wanted a reaction out of someone and you gave it to him.

[@-greentoad]

I'm so impressed with Dr Top's knowledge and how respectful he was. About broke my heart for the parents. So painful for them. So sad.

[@carolkd4018]

To be related to this man would be such an honor. His testimony (AND background) will assure justice is served.

[@davedronski7749]

That's a nice sentiment, but his background has nothing to do with justice! Look at the size of the psychopaths legal team, there is no shot he gets what he deserves.

[@suicidalhairdye]

@@davedronski7749 quality over quantity. If there is enough evidence against him he can still get the death penalty

[@FreeTheTrolls]

@@davedronski7749 you don’t know that.

[@carolkd4018]

@@davedronski7749 I just really like and respect the guy-- it's my simple hope saying "assure" justice will be served. Idealist, yes, I know.

[@juanita_piju]

He seemed to describe the wounds and impact on the bodies very descriptively it seems almost on purpose, which is good bc the jurors are obviously gonna be swayed through emotion, I hope justice is served.

[@juniordrizzy1222]

15 year old kid had to go through all this pain before dying RIP to the victims Gosh

[@Dredrewdre1]

@@SethiozProject you sad soul.

[@freemind6393]

@@SethiozProject im sorry you're going through pain as well. I am all ears to your pain if you want to talk about it.

[@MickeyO365]

@@SethiozProject Life gets better bro, trust me it does. It’s easy to fall into darkness, pulling yourself out is difficult. Good luck on your journey friend.

[@indman101]

@@SethiozProject Hard to believe but most of us do go thru alot of pain in life but not all for the same reason, my son has been thru a tough life battling depression for many years when he lived with his Mom which was very abusive more mentally but some physical I took to many Doctors and they tried almost every medication until they finally got it right, medication and Counseling please don't let it keep building up and explode with anger or revenge, I have a brother in Prison his whole life for murder he was going to kill himself from what he told me, be careful what you think because you might just act on it like my brother did.

[@Spicycow94]

@@SethiozProject emo ? Goth ? Potencial shooter ? 🤔

[@liammiller9296]

We can't even imagine the amount of pain his parents are having right now. Dear God, help them.

[@akumabazooka9169]

Trust me. He doesn't care. If he did, this wouldn't have happened. The all powerful, all knowing, god orchestrated this. He know's who will do what and when. He just sits back, laughs and enjoys the show he dictated. All he has to do is snap his fingers. Only thing I can think of is he's evil. 17 families destroyed. For what? Why does this continue?

[@dawidburnus]

@@akumabazooka9169 He does care. The 6th commandment is “Thou shalt not kill”. God will not interfere with your free will, but there are eternal consequences for unforgiven sins. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and you will be saved.

[@ingrid_inthesky]

@@akumabazooka9169 God doesn't get off to the wicked and rotten ways of man. He gave us all free will and all He expects from us is to have complete trust in Him and He will lead us down the righteous path. It's awesome that you have another moment to get to know Jesus while you're still here🌻 Jesus died for our sins and had God not sent His only begotten son, we _all_ would be doomed no matter what. Just give Him a chance - He, too, weeps with us. In the book of Revelation, everything happening in the world is written right there, unfortunately, but we can't ever claim that we weren't warned 🙏🏽

[@michellefrost85]

@@akumabazooka9169 he doesn't care because he doesn't exist. All for religion if it makes people feel better but science is science.

[@butterflyray1]

@@michellefrost85 Thank you! I get so irritated with these people that bang on about this “god” of theirs! Religion was created in hope it would keep law and order. That people would fear bad consequences in life and death if they committed crimes. If there was a god , this holy person, why are people on their knees praying , begging at his mercy. It’s all wrong and religion causes nothing but pain!

[@JLummin]

sad to hear all the details of Luke's death and even sadder that he had a chance of survival if not for the second fatal shot to the neck. Seems like Luke was first shot in the torso while going down assuming he was trying to duck and then while injured on the ground Nikolas goes closer to him to deliver that fatal second shot which shows the no mercy he had in his mind and proves that he can't be free again if spared the death penalty

[@SohaibKhan1]

How the HELL can the Jury listen to this and not vote for death penalty?

[@caramelbilquees]

Some Christian always professing " forgiveness " because it wasn't their kids that were killed 😞

[@Thatmanwebby]

@@caramelbilqueeslol no. These are liberal voters in the most blue county in Florida. They weren’t preaching Jesus that’s for sure

[@sonia.Vasquez]

@@caramelbilqueesnot true. There are plenty of Christians who have lost children in school shootings who forgive the killer

[@thomas8815]

@@caramelbilquees Ever heard of the fifth commandment?

[@theburnoutsblogpost2364]

Dang if anyone was qualified for a job it'd be this guy

[@carlosventura7]

I can’t imagine being a parent listening to this. Sad

[@jhenfresh]

Me either

[@I-dont-reply]

Having a kid is dumb af 2022

[@sun4164]

Not only listening to it but seeing it , I couldnt even stand to see strangers , this is terrifying and sad , peace be upon them really it's sad

[@jacquelinem3551]

My heart goes out to this young boy and his family. Sending love and hugs. ❤Horrific situation to sit through, it's all so clinical and tough for those officals who have to conduct these procedures. Prayers said for peace.🙏

[@salliemcguire8508]

I'd just like to say ALL these parents (as someone who has a child myself) are incredibly amazing!! I can't imagine what it would take to have to sit there through something like this, for them all to remain within the rules the court laid down... You're all amazing men and women!! I grieve for the loss they've(you) had to go through and I pray for them(you) all!

[@lisadodge8691]

If there’s ever been a time when the death sentence was called for, this is it. That should be a given!!!!!! This murderer isn’t crazy, he’s EVIL!!! PERIOD!!!!!

[@BettyWhite2171]

And totally pre meditated! I saw the videos he made laughing and saying you're all going to die.

[@lildebboston455]

Totally agree with you.Evil as they come.

[@joevignolor4u949]

Apparently Nikolas Cruz's mother was on crack cocaine while she was carrying him and so he had crack cocaine going into his brain before he was born. As a result he likely has brain damage because of it. As one would expect he has had associated behavioral problems, including violence, all of his life. But you're right, let's put him to death. That will solve the problem for sure. Until of course the same thing happens again. Oh wait. It already has.

[@LisaMarie51968]

The poor father can’t even look and I don’t blame him, because I wouldn’t be able to either. The press needs to keep the cameras off the families during the autopsy reports. It’s already uncomfortable to hear this but to be filmed grieving, just don’t seem right imo! This guy is pure evil!

[@javierj9345]

I agree. It’s pretty rude an invasive for them to be shoving a camera in these parents faces

[@abigailsuliguingomez3001]

Of course the father couldn’t look at it I agree with you

[@wendigo90yago62]

@@javierj9345 I agree but it's for the sake of public record, these things are better off being publicly documented. This guy Nikolas doesn't deserve for the horror of his actions to be hidden away from everyone

[@javierj9345]

@@wendigo90yago62 it can be recorded without filming the victims families

[@lorenzovanoordt7894]

@@javierj9345 Um no.....

[@audramuth4147]

Joaquin Oliver’s injuries sounded like someone from a war. This is absolutely insane a child sitting in school gets ambushed like a grown man would be over seas by the enemy . Our schools are not grounds for wars . They should be protected above ALL ELSE with The upmost best protection available . This is unaccounted. I hate to see the day that Nick Cruz will face his maker .

[@1996.stoner]

I think Nik was jealous of him

[@misskarma7408]

The Devil is excited to meet Nik , such a horrible dark soul

[@1996.stoner]

@@ashleyr.6953 definitely

[@joanyelmabopam228]

It was because Joaquin was popular and very handsome.

[@fart63]

@@joanyelmabopam228 he did not have a list of people he wanted to kill. He just shot whoever he saw. You all are making a personal vendetta out of nothing

[@celticspats5548]

9:17 did anyone else bat an eye when the ME said Luke hoyer weighed 192lbs? I’ve seen his pictures shortly before the shooting . Especially since he also said he’s 5’6, I can’t imagine him weighing any more than 150

[@fndleberg3273]

Luke most likely carried natural muscle and had dense bones, remember muscle is a lot more dense than fat!

[@ss41309]

@@fndleberg3273 True which is why somebody can weigh a little and be chubby and somebody can weigh a lot and be slim.

[@daniellebitzer304]

This witness is so well spoken and accomplished. He has such a calming presence even when speaking of the horrific injuries to Luke. My heartaches so deeply for these victims and families.

[@estherhills2674]

My heart breaks looking at his parents I can’t even imagine

[@yourlogicalnightmare1014]

Yet you can easily imagine forcing a new human into existence who can be the next school shooter/victim. Don't cry about suffering that was well known ahead of time. If you procreate, you accept the risks of the evil your offspring will be subjected to or create for others

[@SethiozProject]

but your heart doesn't break when evil girls like Angie play on Cruz's feelings and make him suffer? this blood is on Angie's hands, Cruz just did a horrible thing out of desperation. Ask yourself this: If Angie would have accepted Cruz as her boyfriend, do you think Cruz would have still gone thru with this shooting? because I can bet my own life on it and say NO! he would have been happy and thrown this idea out of his head, but this b!atch Angie had to reject him... it's all her fault.

[@yourlogicalnightmare1014]

@Annon_28 You're like the fly at a picnic... unable to partake in the festivities at the level of a human, yet a superfluous annoyance ... my friend

[@zeldagoblin]

Only if you treat said offspring like crap. Creating monsters isn't hard, out happens every single day.

[@yeaaasonido]

@@yourlogicalnightmare1014 Eh, humans don't look at statistical anomalies when establishing facts. I don't think it's a weird thing to not be able to comprehend the grief that parents have when they lose their teenage child, in fact, it being so rare makes it a feeling many of us will never go through. It's not that deep bro, nobody is "forcing" anyone to do anything. Humans reproduce just like everything in this world. Just call the event what it is, which is unfortunate, and we need to be better about treating each other better. No need to be super edgy.

[@currensy_caribbean2]

The sight of this demon really pisses me off. How dare they try to make him look meek & defenseless. He deserves absolutely nothing but the bare minimum in life. Those kids didn’t deserve to go out like that all because he didn’t fit in or whatever the hell his reasoning is.

[@deviantlord142]

I bet he committed the massacre in the first place because of people like you who call him a demon.

[@patcardiff2563]

That’s what they should do leave him to the parents

[@carlosventura7]

@@deviantlord142 most people do get bullied in school, have also been rejected in love and don’t murder people. So yes, he’s a demon.

[@justdonny313]

@@deviantlord142 had he not committed the massacre maybe the word demon wouldn’t have to be used.

[@sarad2659]

I get what you mean by 'demon' but I wish people would stop making such comparisons. It plays into his defense that he was possessed or acted with the influence of something not of this world. He is just a man. A man that committed an evil act and hopeful will face the harshest punishment. Then die like the sad man he is.

[@RIPFatman]

Dr. Tops description of the autopsies were in point and he did not miss a beat. He did his due diligence and captured exactly the damage that NC caused to his victims. Him adding the position that the victims were in was needed.

[@teresaroman5259]

I feel so heart broken for the parents who have to endure and listen to what their child went through…and how the bullet literally destroyed his body that is seriously so heart breakin😢😢😢 god please wrap your arms around them.

[@sands7779]

Lots of people had tough breaks, especially kids raised in care or by abusive parents or drug addicts/ alcoholics. This teenager was abusing and threatening his adopted mum before she died ( per the bank employee), frightening classmates and torturing animals. He was buying guns months before the killings. 'The love of his life' was another target to control, he sent the coercive text messages as a guilt trip. Lots of people saw enough to worry them- if they all informed police and if police had reacted appropriately maybe this could have been prevented and this teenager might have taken the opportunity to turn his life around. It was his decision to kill those children and he was helped by bought off politicians who make available the type of weapon that enabled him to shoot 34 people in under 6 minutes, killing 17.

[@johnschuh8616]

Sadly, I do not think that the police would have responded.

[@giancarlocarattini4985]

They DID inform the authorities, including the FBI.

[@Widderic]

He could have done that with a handgun. Both are semi-automatic. He could have done that with a bomb which would have been more devastating. Taking away guns won't cure our country of sick and demented kids who slip through the cracks of our society. Fixing mental health and checking in on everyone is the only cure.

[@Widderic]

@@giancarlocarattini4985 They did? Well... now I have some questions. If I post a dick pic online my life would be over, but this kid makes dark comments about killing people and the FBI just lets it happen? Almost like they wanted this to happen to push anti-gun laws. That would mean these kids were sacrificed for a political agenda, and I wouldn't be shocked. Call me crazy if you want, but these politicians don't give a crap about you or me or anyone but themselves.

[@Jordan-nw4sj]

Police and fbi were informed and they did nothing and he was still allowed to purchase weapons

[@angelavalsechi3837]

Luke is a spitting image of his father. May his soul rest peacefully for eternity

[@intodust5784]

That's exactly what I thought. The spitting image of his dad. RIP Luke.

[@ss41309]

@@intodust5784 Yes, Luke looked like his dad and his sister Abby looks like the mom.

[@jenna6421]

@@ss41309I think Abby is a perfect mix of both!

[@Kay-fv7cw]

The explanation from Dr. Tops was easy to understand and gives a picture of what could have happened to Luke Hoyer. My impression is Luke was shot first in the pelvic area and as he was falling, he was shot in the neck.

[@eggsfish2370]

Prayers and love to those poor parents 🙏 I can not imagine the pain and anguish they must be going through listening to that...truly heart breaking.. R I P dear luke.. and all the other victims..

[@gracey3269]

These poor kids. Just going to school, it's Valentines Day, it's close to the end of the school day. And their lives are taken from them. Imagine the pain and fear they went through. This is so horrible.

[@willyreimer8042]

and how many of them had dates planned for that day?!

[@SethiozProject]

Imagine the pain and horror Cruz has been going thru his entire life. imagine how a lonely and depressed guy like Cruz feels like when love of his life rejects him and calls him stalker, this is so horrible. no wonder he broke, he was desperate and desperate times ... require desperate measures, he did the last thing he could. I don't blame him.

[@LetsgoBrandon2023]

@@SethiozProject bruh

[@guy-xd2nb]

@@SethiozProject I see you in multiple replys trying to justify cruz's actions.. How can u pretend that this was justified in any way.. If you get to the point where you are so depressed, sad, in pain or whatever else, there still isnt any justification for murdering innocent people. Why should they suffer/die to "share his pain"??? As much as suicide is a terrible thing as well, i could MAYBE understand such an action. Killing people wont make you feel any better, and sure as hell wont improve any of your personal issues. I really hope you change the way you think...

[@gracey3269]

@@SethiozProject 17 dead, 17 injured, thousands broken, and you have the audacity to say "I don't blame him".

[@XoxoNatasha]

The parents are so strong. Listening to these witnesses day in and day out. My heart goes out to them.

[@aprilcook6783]

I lost my beautiful Daughter to violence just last year. My heart breaks for these parents. It’s life changing to loose your baby, none of them will ever be the same.

[@Gonk]

I'm sorry for your loss I can't even imagine :(

[@aprilcook6783]

@@Gonk Thank you so much. Her Husband killed her.

[@katelyn364]

@@aprilcook6783 I’m so sorry April.

[@jolielavey1769]

no one should ever lose a baby I am so sorry ❤️

[@blueprint0162]

🙏🏾

[@benjaminrichard7741]

18:48 eww can you imagine having a bullet there? He’s guilty do not show him mercy.

[@nahomkifle9742]

The grief of a parent who barriers his/her child is unbearable. It is as if your life is taken away. I completely feel and understand their sorrow and grief. May God give them strength and happiness. 🙏

[@kalievesely3200]

It’s a bit of a stretch to say you completely feel and understand.. because you will never truly understand what that’s like, unless you too have suffered a similar loss? Which I highly doubt you’d be writing this.. I’m just saying, you’ll never understand their pain and grief.. ever.

[@lynnegackstetter2779]

@@kalievesely3200 your assuming that she hasn't experienced the loss of her child to gun violence. To take your time to judge someone you don't know is the real shame here.

[@lynngold1865]

Excellent witness.would have loved him as my professor in nursing school.Great teacher.The jurors are hearing the true damage of these horrific, destroying, pulverizing bullets.😢😢😢

[@Cwgrlup]

No words to describe the heinous, callous murder of these kids. I feel so bad for their parents having to hear what their kids experienced as they are shot and killed.

[@elizabethbrown8833]

That Pathology Doctor is so thorough in his explanation of each of the murdered victims gunshot wounds and fatal effects of each of them. Sensitive and respectful too. 🙏 The families are so distraught but God's Holy Spirit is securely holding them together. 🙏💔

[@ericpatino5536]

Only if god and the holy spirit would have done something to stop all this pain and suffering, can you imagine?.... but most like there's no god or a holy spirit OR or if it does, then this god the biggest psychopath.

[@snoopyontheground3481]

You bring ridicule onto yourself - stop making a mockery of God.

[@citizendame6329]

@@snoopyontheground3481 Mockery of God sounds like a badass name for a metal band.

[@treek10k]

@@ericpatino5536 you sound like a edgy 15 year old trying to gain attention.

[@ericpatino5536]

@@citizendame6329 - I dig it!

[@ms.inspiration385]

Dr. Tops is not only a highly intelligent and qualified Expert, but he was also compassionate in his delivery. This is just all around sad.

[@butterfly-ef8fx]

Very intelligent and COMPASSIONATE

[@Slyjoe]

I wonder where the demons and voices all of a sudden went when he's just sitting there.

[@giancarlocarattini4985]

He's HEAVILY medicated on psychotropic medications.

[@katehenderson8194]

There work had been done!

[@justsayin3084]

i wonder where the voices were when he went to eat at mcdonalds right after he killed children.smh.

[@sandrarobinson1584]

The victims' parents look exhausted 😢

[@delaneywillits]

It’s been four years & they still haven’t caught a break, So upsetting

[@AVALDEZ99]

Grief causes them to look like that as well 🥺😔

[@mi3helle707]

They've/they're going through a warzone many of us cannot comprehend

[@shaniceb.5129]

It’s crazy how one bullet can do so much damage to a person’s body

[@XXXTENTAClON227]

Yup. Biggie Smalls was shot 4 times but 3 out of the 4 were not fatal, missing all of his vital organs until the final shot; the bullet went through his hip and ricocheted into his colon, liver, heart, upper lung and stopped at his shoulder. It truly depends on where the bullet goes. I remember reading about Dustin Theoharis, he was shot 16 times including being shot in the head multiple times and LIVED. He’s not paralyzed or disfigured or anything, just certain joints are more prone to injury now. The human body weird asf

[@theyluvaariel]

@@XXXTENTAClON227 wow that’s amazing , you learn something new everyday .

[@somewhereinsouthamerica5829]

@@theyluvaariel these people were shot with a rifle as opposed to a hand gun. The velocity of the bullet fired from a rifle is about 3 times that of a handgun. The equation for kinetic energy shows that speed of the object is exponentially proportional, so by tripling the speed, the energy is about 9 times greater. When the bullet hit a person the energy is released into tissue bones as well as the bullet fragmentation. The tissue is first crushed by temporary cavitation then lacerated by the projectiles (bullets and bone fragments)

[@kitchenskills5427]

@@somewhereinsouthamerica5829 Which is why these weapons need to be banned. There is no practical use.

[@matthewledford7209]

@@kitchenskills5427 Hate to say it but, rights have more value than opinion

[@alexjones9038]

RIP dude, never knew you but from the pictures online, anyone can tell you were such a sweet young guy, justice will come for you, i hope you are playing basketball in heaven

[@joycegeng6144]

The expertise and compassion just show forth brilliantly in this doctor! The parents must be in agony hearing this- everyone is agonized.

[@tcclarke7271]

This is so hard to hear. Why are Americans so hell bent on the "right to bare arms"?? Why are guns so easily accessible?? These young people should be here today living their best lives ever and contributing positively to society. This massacre should never had happened to them.

[@fndleberg3273]

Because freedom 🇺🇸🦅

[@oooohkaye2302]

Because some people are pathetic and have nothing else to make them feel powerful except a gun.

[@lindasheldon6940]

These poor paarents... Both my son and daughter-in-law work in schools here in East Tx as well as 4 grandchildren still in school and one great grandson. I worry and pray they get thru their days at school safely. In my days [ early fifties to late sixties ], this type of atrocity was unheard of. So heartbreaking...

[@Jase-L]

Well it's not unheard of now. And you should be scared. Right-Wing MAGA Cultists and psycho-sociopaths run the State of Texas, they give NOT ONE SHXT about you/your family. Period. Uvalde definitely was not the first nor the last. Apathetic Texans are Pathetic.

[@Camposlearningjourney]

Mrs Linda do you think back in the sixties these things weren’t “happening” because there was just no media coverage? Or was it really because it just wasn’t happening. I hate that they record all of this. Like a movie. It’s a little bit disturbing but I still watch 😞

[@lindasheldon6940]

@@Camposlearningjourney I was in kindergarten in NJ in 1953 and high school in early/almost mid sixties... the worst trouble ppl got in was for smoking cigarettes in the bathrooms, throwing spitballs and chewing gum... I think anything as sensational as this topic would have been covered on the nightly news station such as the on the university campus back in the day. Before that I was naive to think schools and churches were safe... so maybe both can be true.

[@danieluseche1]

After listening to all these testimonies and the testimonies of the survivors and what they lost, I can’t help to feel very angry at Marjory Taylor Greene and the people who voted for her after they saw how she harassed Parkland survivors. Honestly, a person like that shouldn’t have a place in the people’s house. They should be ashamed of themselves for electing her. The trauma those kids experienced is horrible and their lives are already hard because of it.

[@sloppysteaks5813]

Hey there. Would you mind explaining what she did exactly? Sorry I wasn’t aware she had done anything like that. Thank you

[@bytejourneycodes]

@@sloppysteaks5813 search Margorie Taylor Greene harassing parklands survivor here on KZbin. I don't think there is more of a low life than Margorie Taylor Greene.

[@SirrCommander]

@@sloppysteaks5813 she followed around David Hogg , a survivor of the shooting , and harassed him basically saying he was lying and all that shitty stuff

[@alexandram1301]

@@sloppysteaks5813 there’s a survivor David Hogg who advocates for gun safety laws and Greene has spoken to him (she is pro gun) she called him an idiot for influencing young women in taking away firearms that can keep them safe in her eyes. I believe that’s the jist

[@sloppysteaks5813]

@@alexandram1301 so a pro-gun judge was against an anti-gun measure. How strange. 🙄

[@brocktonma.1816]

Putting the camera on the parents while their child’s autopsy is being discussed is disgraceful.

[@OneAndOnlyOmar]

Well there’s cameras there for a reason buddy

[@brocktonma.1816]

@@OneAndOnlyOmar how about focus on the defendant, the lawyers and the judge. Buddy.

[@OneAndOnlyOmar]

@@brocktonma.1816 they purposely showed the parents to show everyone else their reaction, for what they’ve been through and how they’re feeling, what good does showing the lawyers and the judge when they have not been through what the parents have, common sense man

[@brocktonma.1816]

@@OneAndOnlyOmar you don’t think everyone knows the heartache they’re experiencing? Common decency doesn’t seem very common. Why do you end every statement with an insult.

[@adaeze4873]

@@brocktonma.1816 I think everyone can imagine what the parents are going through, but to actually know would require a person to be in the same position as the parents. So no not everyone knows.

[@axxli29]

I could not imagine being a parent and having to sit and listen to the horrific things that were inflicted upon your child. All the love to the families that have lost children to gun violence 🤍

[@bigassdummy46]

Gun Violence or Murdering Mad Man?

[@PinkSparklerToontown]

@@bigassdummy46 spot the far righter

[@tilda140]

Imagine how they feel knowing an entire political party is committed to making sure the problem never gets any better.

[@axxli29]

@@tilda140 exactly!!

[@flugsven]

@@bigassdummy46 That's usually the same thing in the US.

[@christianindianizme1982]

Oh these parents who sat through hearing every detail of the victim’s agony. Lord please grant these parents comfort, love and peace to handle this pain.

[@susiestokely3528]

Luke Hoyer’s Mom looks so broken, barely able to comprehend what she is hearing because it is too horrific to fathom, Luke’s Dad clearly understands all and is very concerned about his wife as the Pathologist describes his findings of Luke’s autopsy. This is brutal.

[@omensoffate]

No way wow it’s brutal ? Ya think?

[@angie.44]

@@omensoffate lmao

[@cannedheat2264]

@@omensoffate no….

[@teea2809]

@@omensoffate This is the video to be condescending under? There’s always a childish idiot in the comments on these types of videos smh. Always.

[@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath]

Do you always take it upon yourself to speak for others? It’s a very bad habit

[@dianereed48]

My oldest son age 55 died unexpectedly,recently. I don't want to see or hear autopsy results nor did I view him at the funeral home. I know he's dead but only saw him alive. I can't imagine the pain, anguish and rage these parents must feel. Hearing and viewing autopsy reports must be horrendous. Praying for comfort 🙏🙏🙏

[@Limejello713]

I’m sorry for your loss. I hope you are able to find peace and solace. 🕊❤️

[@joyrarefilly5354]

How can not view your son? Terrible.

[@kyleeanderson3128]

​@@joyrarefilly5354why would you even question this she wanted to remember him as he was thats not terrible ur terrible

[@lifewithchicago5282]

I can’t listen to this and then look at the face of the parents it gives me chills . I wonder what all the parents would do to this guy if they locked them in a room

[@toreckman8899]

How they don’t get up and attack that POS is beyond me.

[@dripdaddy9091]

Un think able things

[@roguekoala71]

He wouldn't be able to walk or move 🤔

[@Kyle_765]

Bet there would be nothing left of him

[@tonyhead5132]

My daughter died 2 1/2 years ago and there was an autopsy performed. I couldn’t read past the first paragraph. I can’t imagine how the parents endured this testimony. So courageous and brave.🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@feefs2139]

May Allah give you ease, patience, and guidance to endure this difficult trial.

[@42LGK]

@@feefs2139 allah doesnt exist, only JESUS CHRIST

[@jasminechukwu1370]

I'm here crying my eyes out years after the happening. Can't imagine what the victims and the parents are going through and making that monster wear a glasses to make him look the opposite of what he really is (monster👹👿) is pathetic 😡🤬

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

The huge glasses make him look worse. He has got to be the ugliest person on the planet.

[@ranstxx]

Its crazy that someone can kill your kid and your not allowed to speak to this person or go near them

[@lauriedelorme6733]

God bless and comfort Luke’s parents. My heart grieves for them as they remain composed having to hear the gruesome details of their child’s death.

[@boogie0413]

Just the look on the families faces breaks my heart. I can’t imagine losing one of my children especially in this manner. My heart aches for them more than words can explain,

[@harukoito918]

Prayers for Luke. Sounds like he was such a sweet kid. Strength to his parents🙏🏼this is just heart breaking.

[@elisapelaccia6484]

It is difficult for me, a complete stranger, to listen to the doctor describe in detail the injuries that the victim sustained. I can not even fathom how difficult it would be for his parents. If I were his mother, I would want to claw the shooter's eyes out! 😡

[@dewilew2137]

This man has done everything. He’s a true American hero.

[@toreckman8899]

Makes him successful, and an expert in his field, not a hero. Jesus.

[@b.f.3636]

@@toreckman8899 He is a hero, he helps people. He gives answers as to what caused somebody to pass away. He works hard for the people. Obviously you don’t seem to understand what creates a hero. He is a hero for helping to hopefully put Nikolas Cruz to death.

[@toreckman8899]

@@b.f.3636 I help people definitely more than you. Doesn’t make me a hero. You’re what’s wrong with our society. I guarantee to you, the doctor doesn’t see himself as a hero. Participation trophy winners like you do. PS - heroes aren’t ‘created’ PSS - if this what has to be done to put a slam dunk mass murderer to death, there’s something serious wrong with the process, wouldn’t you agree?

[@laurieb3703]

@@toreckman8899 a military vet and a doctor isn't a hero to you?

[@toreckman8899]

@@laurieb3703 by your standards I would have heroes lined up outside my door and up the street. By the other persons standards everyone in the courtroom is a hero because they are trying to send this scum to hell. What is it with you people and the word ‘hero’? Like many he’s an accomplished and inspirational human being who has had a stellar career With that said, I consider him no different than a man who pushes a broom and is able to provide love, education and a roof for his children. Try setting the bar a little higher mom.

[@FranklyItsMe]

I’m only watching bc I’m from that area but moreso bc I feel like these families need to know that there are strangers whose hearts are just broken for them and their children.

[@avilenimartinez0814]

I looked up a picture of Luke and he looks just like his dad 🥺 I wish nothing but the best for his parents I hope they can find some sort of peace one day.

[@mag5020]

Couldn't finish listening to this, heartbreaking 💔 fly high with the angels beautiful Luke.

[@chriss8070]

The fact that this guy is Still Sitting There makes me furious. I Hope He get's what He deserves

[@Christian_Girl120]

I'm very impressed with the knowledge that this medical examiner has. He is able to really explain in detail how every wound was produced and what it caused. God bless him for being able to remain professional while explaining what happened to this young man. My heart goes out to the families and friends of all of those who died. This is awful. May God give them peace, love, and comfort during this time and forever after.

[@patcardiff2563]

These poor but very brave parents

[@officialroyflush1]

Its tough to listen to and grapple at that moment the type of sheer shock fear horror all the victims and witnesses to the shooting experienced. Just sickening. Hard to unhear this

[@Jk-ph3zy]

He described the deaths with such details, I think he secured the death penalty Edit. No way Luke hoyer weighed 192lbs no chance

[@mountsj]

That's not how it works.

[@Jk-ph3zy]

@@mountsj the first pathologists to give evidence where careful in what they said oout of respect for parents, Dr tops said it how It was , the wording of j.olivers autospy was sickening, the jury now know a teenagers brain exploded in his head . You would be crazy to think he ain't getting death penalty, it's well secured. Dylan roof got death for shooting 9 adults with a handgun causing Injurys no we're near as horrific as msd .

[@mountsj]

@@Jk-ph3zy it's not about the damage caused. It's about motive.

[@nia4842]

Knowing they're looking at autopsy photos is heartbreaking.

[@omensoffate]

Literally

[@WOLIPOPGAMING]

Im pretty sure they aren't. They often will only show these category of pictures to the jury and judge.

[@judithpetree6329]

@@WOLIPOPGAMING, I sat in a courtroom a few yr, ago at the trial of a man accused of murder, not as a juror or witness, just as a member of the public, and photos of the autopsy were shown.

[@WOLIPOPGAMING]

@@judithpetree6329 oh really? interesting. Wonder if it's the same everywhere in States. Where I live, the photos can be hidden from the court-observers but they can also be shown.

[@judithpetree6329]

@@WOLIPOPGAMING, I'm not sure if it varies by state but I was surprised it was allowed. They didn't show the autopsy in its entirety, just the one of the side of his head where the bullet entered and part of his upper torso for reference. This was in E. Tennessee.

[@elishiamariewilson8289]

Much respect to this doctor..He credentials are above impressive.

[@tempino273]

Man is well accomplished...pity he's using his expertise in such messed up circumstances

[@melh8179]

The parents look absolutely exhausted, this is utterly heartbreaking… it’s like Cruz is loving all of this attention and doesn’t even realize this is because he killed people. It’s like he thinks all of these people actually like him and support him and like he’s so important sitting there, if it wasn’t for him, it wouldn’t be happening and he is loving every moment of it…. He shouldn’t even be able to sit there, especially because he isn’t taking it seriously and actually attentively listening, he should have to rot in that cell while the jury decides his fate. And let’s hope it’s death. Luckily for him it’ll be humanely with a needle, painless and quiet, unlike what he did to these poor children and teachers.

[@eis904]

These parents look so absolutely helpless. What a horrible outcome. I’m glad there are people like this Dr.who can bring some closure.

[@sionandtatev]

It’s unimaginable the courage it takes for the parents to seat and take in the catastrophic loss and listen in details how their child was killed by a monster. R.I.P to the victims and my deepest condolences to the family

[@Spookybozo]

If nothing else in this trial was enough to sentence Cruz to death, THIS should’ve been it. There’s no way you listen to all this and *STILL* conclude that life in prison should be considered.

[@Decgyrrl]

Jesus, those poor kids. If I didn't express it b4, my sincerest condolences. My thoughts & prayers are with u. I'm truly sorry this happened to ur loved one. God bless & those who lost their lives, may they RIP✝️🙏🏾🌺

[@jagbrit3723]

Twisted kids are going to watch this and romanticize being the culprit in a similar trial, listening to the gore of their carnages. No other nation in the world endures these magnitudes of school shootings, signifying the dangers of ill regulated accesses to fire arms in the U.S. This was torturous to hear, given the doctor's graphic testimony. May the victims continue to rest in peace. Let's all try to be better people.

[@Ambah818]

Ok I've watched this whole trial up to today 8/4. As horrible that I feel for Nikolas Cruz being so failed in his life, he proved that the goodness he was shown in his life meant nothing. He shows nothing, not much as a nudge to his lawyers until the most detrimental part- victim witness statements. He had a long time to have great life and along the way he was failed and more so every single person he harmed along the way. Regardless of this examiners testimony, we've heard how horribly these bullets were in damaging each victim. Please teach your children that this could become a reality and sadly we can't say it won't be. I'm terrified of sending my kids to school again after hearing this.

[@violetmartha916]

His poor parents...the pain on that mother's face...oh my heart breaks for her...for her whole family.

[@itscomplicated5507]

It's too bad they just can't have a firing squad right in open court.

[@dopeblacktherapist]

Much cheaper too!

[@dewilew2137]

Keep that same energy if and when someone you love is ever accused and convicted of wrongdoing.

[@mikeevans9207]

@@dewilew2137 are you serious? If your family member shoots up a school and kills 17 kids out of hatred of the world and community I hope you’d disown them

[@CrazyCrystal8175]

If he was here in South Carolina, he could face a firing squad

[@guffie2]

Too quick tho

[@savannahm1223]

Mrs. Hoyer please know your baby is in peace and no longer in pain. I’m so so so sorry he had to endure this. I’m so sorry.

[@Curious-Irish-Angel]

The one dad just breaks my heart.. You can feel and physically see his devastation. The medical examiner was very professional considering the horrific injuries *to children*

[@MsBrasil89]

You know what gets me… Nikolas’ carnage didn’t end that day. It continues everyday. The parents having to listen what happened to their child. I hate this for them. Yes they can forgive and move on but they can’t ever forget. I pray for them and their families

[@davidgodoy4685]

They cannot forgive and they cannot forget. They can only sit there hopeless to witness whether their son or daughter’s murderer who is sitting right across from them in little sweaters and geeky glasses which he never wore before the trial. will be killed for his actions, or kept fed and safe in a cell. And unfortunately , neither of these things will bring back their child. Those families lives are absolutely ruined. They were robbed.

[@rey21447]

It’s so sad I know this probably a tough job when presented with a situation of how a child how died but he did an amazing job and his credibility is so amazing as well. Thank you

[@jessmabbmesa20]

This is so incredibly sad I can’t even imagine what the families of the victims are going through! 😪

[@mikelanci4071]

It’s sad that the villain in this case is able to sit there and watch the families suffer. That’s exactly what he wanted. Why can’t the trial happen without him there

[@rebeccaward4563]

Disgusting isn't it

[@wrestlingscience]

@@Psyminds Doubtful. Even during his time in jail before the trial he attacked a guard when a good opportunity arose. That was very recent. He’s still the same animal he always was. If he looks sympathetic its most likely to get sympathy from people like you. The kid is an actor, don’t try to humanize him he’s less than human.

[@shahwilloughby4603]

@@Psyminds I think at times Nikolas Cruz looks pretty smug. It's like he's enjoying the attention.

[@cherylspinazzola5572]

I don’t think the jury will be deliberating for long!

[@victoriaavant-jenkins6032]

God as a momma I cannot imagine having to watch while he describes this. I know it’s necessary for the court, but god I’d have to step out. Sending love to the family and friends affected by this senseless act of violence.

[@carolinesunshine1690]

I know. All the Mama Bear feelings were coming out for me while watching this. Part of me would definitely want to make Nikolas Cruz suffer, to the n^th degree. How absolutely gut wrenching to hear such gruesome details of their son's death. I'd have to step out, too.

[@alecgonzalez6910]

I thank this man for his service for defending are country.

[@Huaerel]

Heart breaking man his poor father looks dead inside

[@toddjackson164]

What I have noticed by following the trial is how the parents only speak of love. It makes me wonder if it might be more harmful to the families if this truly awful young man were put to death. I just feel so bad for the families and feel that they need to be considered first and formost.

[@MichelleSid]

God help these parents. I can't imagine having to go through what they're going through.

[@Spicycow94]

This man’s intelligence is so 🥵

[@djs8538]

Could you imagine laying there gasping for air screaming for help knowing you're dying knowing you'll never see your parents again and drowning in your own blood. I don't even know horror movies that are as bad as this. Shame on the school system shame on the gun sellers shame on the people that don't pass laws to prevent this from happening shame on the people who make these kind of guns shame on the people and legislation that don't do nothing to keep the kids safe guilt to all of you survivors guilt man may it never leave you alone may it haunt you and bother you for your whole life. Unnecessary tragedy unnecessary loss unnecessary destruction. Shame to you all no wonder I can't sleep at night this is too disturbing for me to sleep. Amazing strength to the families using so much control being in the same courtroom with that vicious animal

[@bluefinch6504]

Shame on the people buying these weapons more than anything else!

[@Mindstangle]

I agree! The constitution was written by WHITE MEN who 'OWNED' SLAVES. What are some words on a piece of paper when black and brown bodies are on the line just like they were during slavery? I pray every day John Biden will rip up the constitution.

[@squareheadtyson3612]

including the government and literally anyone who ever shot a gun ever

[@I-dont-reply]

@@bluefinch6504 come take mine and tell me how bad of a person I am cause I want to protect my family from people like him, please

[@jdramirez7613]

@@I-dont-reply you don't need an automatic rifle for basic home defense of your family, just another excuse to buy items with such high potential of destruction and damage

[@elra39]

Horrible.... Just... Horrible... My blood boils as I remember the Fox News people grilling the survivors when they spoke up after. Saying they were actors and minimizing this massacre. I don't wish someone hurts them or their loved ones, but I can only imagine that would be the only way they'd find empathy in their hearts. How anyone is against logical & intelligent gun reform, is unbelievable to me.

[@grainiac7824]

No idea how those parents looked at those photos and sat quiet and still. That rips my heart out thinking of them seeing their beloved son's horrific injuries and what was done to him.

[@dianebaugher3919]

Dear God, how do you sit there as a parent and listen to these autopsy details of your child, I have no words.

[@willyreimer8042]

my heart honestly goes out to the loved ones of this bastards victims