Nikon D7100 vs Nikon D600

[@SuperSaf]

Thank you for watching, that's an excellent idea, the D7100 would be great as a second body

[@SuperSaf]

Hi Phil, I based my opinion on the specs and experience with DX and FX bodies but did mention in the video that for a true comparison they would have to be seen side by side.

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks for watching, glad it was useful :-)

[@SuperSaf]

i also do events and landscapes etc.. And especially when I am using a wide lens, something like the 14-24mm, I want 14mm wide rather than a DX crop which will roughly be 21mm equivalent. But yes it obviously varies from person to person.

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks mate, appreciate the support :-) Tbh the quality of the lens is what really determines the quality of the picture, if you use an average lens with a great body the picture will not be as good a great lens with an average body. The FX will perform better in low light and will give you the true focal length of the lens, but it won't have any significant advantage on the quality of the image. Hope that helps

[@SuperSaf]

Hey thanks for the feedback, appreciated :-) Personally I am not a fan of kit lenses, i would go for body only and stick with the ones you have for now then invest in some nice FX lenses when you have the cash. I mean even with the DX lenses you will still be getting shots at roughly 15megapixels, which is usually more than enough and will still be able to shoot full 1080p video too.

[@SuperSaf]

yes it really does depend on preference. A sports photographer commented before saying how the extra 1.3 crop would give them almost double the focal length at 15MP as well as 7fps which was ideal for sports photography.

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks for watching and the feedback buddy :-) All the best

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks for watching, glad it helped :-)

[@LaurStig]

Just ordered D600. - Full-frame sensors offer a 1.2 to 1.4 stop advantage in noise. This means that a FF ISO 250 image has about the same noise as a crop ISO 100 image. - Full-frame sensors offer better detail at any given f-stop due to lower diffraction effects. This improves image detail, color detail, and contrast. - The feature that full-frame provides is better images...plain and simple.

[@kazcnepj]

I bought the D7100 and am very happy with it. The viewfinder is nice and bright. The 51 point AF is very fast and accurate, 1.3 crop mode is more useful than I thought. Brings up the fps to 7 and gives me 1080p 60i video. All the images coming from this camera are super sharp with nice dynamic range. The body is very well built and the grip is nice and sticky. I was looking at the D600 [price didn't matter to me] and I was very discouraged by all the negative talk of oil & dust.

[@SuperSaf]

Hey sorry for the confusion I actually meant "Wide Viewing Angle" LCD screen! It is not a swivel out screen like the D5200

[@SuperSaf]

Well if you have some FX lenses they should work a treat with the D600. And any DX lenses you have should still work on the D600 (it will just use the 1.5x DX crop) so the images will be around 15 megapixels rather than the full 24.3.

[@SuperSaf]

Yes it's always best to wait a little while for the issues to be ironed out and also for the price to drop, all the best

[@SuperSaf]

It's useful for video, because you can still get full 1080p in crop mode (in essence giving you more zoom from your lens)

[@SuperSaf]

If you are new to photography then my advice would be to go for the D7100 after a few months (when the price is more reasonable) and spend the money saved on some nice lenses. All the best

[@SuperSaf]

Hey sorry I actually meant "Wide Viewing Angle" LCD screen! It is not a swivel out screen like the D5200

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks Mark, what is the difference in euros between the D7100 and D600? If it's as little as here in the UK (just £300-350) then I think full-frame is definitely the way to go.

[@SuperSaf]

Nikon just issues a press release today, have a search on their website. I think they have suggested a solution or you can take it to the nearest Nikon service center.

[@SuperSaf]

Very good points there

[@SuperSaf]

Yes definitely, it does come down to the sort of photography you do

[@Neukita1]

I have the same setup (D7000,nikor 10-24,tamron 17-50 and 70-200 2.8). I recently bought D600. The good news is all lenses will work on the D600 in crop, except for the 70-200 which will work full frame! The reduced noise is also definitely impressive! BAD NEWS ARE, the autofocus will get on your nerves for a while. The 39 af points are in the middle of the screen. Also, each focus point is half size of D7000, making it way harded to find contrast and therefore to focus.

[@SuperSaf]

I agree that a DX is fine for most situations. But considering the small price difference right now, I personally think you may as well go for the full-frame.

[@Pozi_Drive]

waste of money.

[@esquisseweivod]

at 5:00 it's not true the D7100 has better features because its a newer camera. Nikon could put the same features in the D600 but did not because the D800 would not get any advantages above the D600.

[@Maverick62AB]

thanks! Currently Using a Red Nikon D3200 with 4 Lenses (18-55mm DX, 55-300mm DX, 55mm F1.2 Prime & 500mm F8 Prime) and you have Given me the Information i need for the Next Body, thanks you much! D600 here i come!

[@SuperSaf]

Hey, that's not my channel. The guy has been stealing my videos. Have reported it and looks like KZbin have blocked the channel now. Thank you so much for letting me know.

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks Paul, really glad it was helpful and appreciate the feedback. All the best mate :-)

[@Elena0075]

I just got my d600 and absolutely love it! No more dx for me. If the sensor gets dirty, clean it! Any one that's ever done it knows it's easy. Crop factor moved me toward fx because I primarily do portrait photography.

[@MrPedrofoto]

Decided to go for the D7100 and use the money I saved to add to the kitty for a prime lens. After all, the glass makes the greater difference. Am thrilled with the camera and the lens and have just finished my first photo shoot with the combination. Results were terrific. Was shooting macro images of antique Irish salmon flies for magazine and book. The video capability will be tested out the next time. Happy Snappin.

[@Neukita1]

Im thinking of the exact same thing. I actually have a D600 (got it brand spanking new at BH in NYC for $2000 with a 24-85, a monopod, extra batterym, 32gb card and a small caring bag... sweet deal!), and i have a D7000 as a backup. Im thinking of selling the D7000 to get the 7100. Getting a 1.3 crop at 18mp with no low pass filter and 7fps with virtualy full coverage AF system seems awesome for daylight sports!

[@johndoerubytosa]

just got my D7100 today to complement my D700. instead of paying $2400 for a D600 with the kit lens, I was able to get my d7100 with a sigma 70-200 f2.8 OS..one huge advantage of owning a DX format camera is that my 70-200 will be 105-300mm f2.8. Obviously FX will have far superior low light performance but if you're a hobbyist who does not make a living out of photography, get the D7100 and buy good lenses. Future-proofing wise owning a good glass definitely help you in the long run.

[@VishnuRajendranAmboo]

Personally on pricing and feature and practicality all depends on the user, for me i shoot mainly corporate event and commercial related photography and have been using D7000 for both photo and video. Great camera, now with technology advancing on low light performances smaller sensors seems to be able to match full frame sensors one generation behind. So is it worth getting that full frame/pro camera, probably not. Its like comparing a D800 & HD40, very marginal different in the end.

[@SuperSaf]

Yes I did mention that in the video, amazing feature

[@shadow479]

Well I guess the choice between these two cameras will depend on what kind of photography are you going to do? For nature, action, sports, and general the D7100 is a great and better choice...also you save money for lenses.

[@SuperSaf]

Me too, good choice

[@aminchong7264]

great video with great info and insights of both model. I have been considering to upgrade from my current entry DSLR to either a FX or DX. Before the launching of the 7100 I was opting for the D600 as it will make the most sense as going from a DX to FX. However with the D7100 whether the price range or the features it start to make me sway to stick with the DX. Another reason is that I will still be able to stick to my DX lenses rather having to invest again the buying FX lenses for the D600.

[@Taraandra]

They will "work". But you will be getting the 1.5 crop and corresponding reduction in resolution. There is also - at least at my favorite camera store here - the possibility of trading in those DX lenses while buying something more expensive. They will often give you a better trade in price than you expected if by doing so they can persuade you to buy a more expensive item. Well worth a try!

[@buzzedlunne6668]

Reviews should be like this.. well done supersaftv

[@chazlyle41]

Your point is valid about it being preference but for just slightly more money one can get the Full Frame Sensor. It really boils down to, do I want a pro sensor with less features or a consumer sensor with more features. The only qualm I have with that standpoint is that if you really are "going pro" with your photography you had better be able to afford glass, and I would assume, someday, a better body than the D600. So I side with either getting the D7100 and enjoying a DX or a higher up FX.

[@Neukita1]

depends on what you shoot. I have the D7000 and D600. D600 is great in low light as you can bump iso at 3200 with virtually no noise! The desadvantage is that the AF system sucks! It covers very little of the screen. Also, keep in mind you will need to invest on good quality full frame lenses if you want to take full advantage of the sensors potential. If u shoots alot of indoors or low light stuff, go for D600.

[@swrilgroove]

Thnxs for the features & specs explanation for both cameras !, both are great deal of DSLR Csmera but I'll go with D7100 !

[@markuslh]

Well, if I understood it correctly you also lose pixels in crop mode since a smaller part of the sensor is used, so lower resolution as well. Except for more zoom with 1080p like SuperSaf pointed out, I still don't see the sense in using it

[@SuperSaf]

Is that so? Was not aware of that, that is a but of a shame

[@mrohrer10]

I'm in a very similar position. I use a D3100 for all my shooting and feel that I am also outgrowing the camera as well. Personally the best piece of gear I have is a Tamron 60mm F2 Macro lens which I use for portraits. 10-24 is pretty wide. I've found that when I shoot with my other lens (the standard 18-55) I'm usually right around 35-40mm for group photos. A prime 35mm dx lens would be nice. As for DX or FX in my opinion FX isn't worth the extra cost. I'm gonna go with the D7100.

[@69DrGreenthumb]

I've been waiting for this as an appropriate upgrade from my D90 I'll wait a little longer after release to ensure no issues like with the D600 (oil/dust) - but looks like a great camera.Its A Hard Choice Between The D600 And The D7100

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks buddy, appreciate the feedback :-)

[@tommasofrisone]

I've recently been on very cold environment with my d3000 and had some problems related to that.. i think one important part of reviewing a camera's spec that you didn't consider here is the environmental sealing..

[@onlypositivesphoto]

I bought the D600.. Definitely not mad! FX over DX any day, but then of course it does depend on what you're using it for.. I also have FX glass, so if you have DX glass, or can`t offer better glass such as primes or 2.8, then 7100 might be better!

[@fatdoi003]

for the price of a D800, i can get a D600 and D7100 one for landscape/portrait and the other sport/video, a good 2nd body with same handling and interface. also when using FX lenses can choose between 1x 1.5x and 2x crop, lots of variations to play with

[@Cthorlhu]

but if its a difference of a slightly cheaper camera with more features with a pro lens or just a camera (albeit a very nice one), I'd take the first option. I do see the advantages though of full frame in regards to noise at high iso but its really the only advantage between these two cameras (maybe...). if I were to go full frame it would be to the d800 to really get more. I can't wait until full reviews come out. I really am excited for this new bit of kit as I'm in the process of upgrading.

[@razrv3lc]

I've been using an Olympus E-520 for the past four years! You aren't alone! :) You sound like you're in the same predicament as I am. I think the best bet would be the D7100 or D5200. Both of those are good, I think!

[@sedky69]

I'd go for the D7100. $800 is not a small difference especially if you are not making money from your pictures. Additional features that most reviews don't mention are HDR and bracketing capabilities which I have been waiting for for a while. I love HDR pictures, but I don't know how to make them. I was hoping to see a review of this functionality, but most of the D7100 reviews just go through the specs. I would like to see a real test.

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks Jamie, glad it was helpful :-)

[@Taraandra]

I have a DX lens that I occasionally use on my D800. Well--- I'd call it more than a little vignetting. But I go ahead and set it for the DX crop so I get a clean shot. Yes it works. But if you have any intention of going full frame, buy FX lenses. They will also work on DX cameras and you'll be all set when you buy the full frame. Just be sure to figure 1.5 crop factor with FX lenses: a 50mm lens is like at 75 mm lens on a Nikon full frame, etc.

[@Jase989]

I have to comment lenses you will use with each type of camera. If you do go for the full frame sensor you will also want to buy professional glass to go with it. To buy one of these Pro 2.8/f lens can cost more that the camera body. This mean to have a collection of different Pro lenses is something very important to consider. You can get a full set Nikon DX lens for the price of one Nikon 70-200mm 2.8/f VRII lens.

[@ldfelix]

Very informative. I have a D7000 which I love and a collection of mostly DX lenses so moving up to an FX would cost quite a bit as my 10-24, 17-50 and 70-200 are all DX. If I were starting from scratch an FX would be a great way to go.

[@colblimp]

Buy a used D700 - 51 AF points and 8FPS if you buy the grip and EN-EL4 battery. I use mine for pro work and it's simply awesome!

[@happyfeet1994]

I had the d7000 I bought the upgrade 7100 used my friends 600 and we decided to trade because he had way to many dx lenses. i have yet to regret the trade neither has he both are great cameras.. but hands down the 600 lets me take great pictures at night at high iso's where if i shot the same thing on crop i would get a great deal of noise. I urge anyone who may one day take it seriously and try to go pro.. start full frame first. It will save you money

[@timdawg747]

I'm a Pro Photographer . I've been doing photography for many years for a living... Full frame or DX camera such as the D7100... They haven't mastered the high ISO issues to be bragging about Full frame is better... All suck past 6400 ISO... That feature is mute, not even a issue when comparing the 2 cameras.. We photographers would love to see a digital camera that can take photos or video in low light or use high ISO that really work. Photos with no Noise or not "Grainy" at a concert or play

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks. DX lenses will work on the D600, you will just get a 1.5x crop. So instead of 24.1mp, you will get around 16mp images with DX lenses. Hope that helps

[@hrvojekant9415]

in FX mode 24.3 Mp...inDX mode only 10.5 Mp

[@cfwong1d300s]

It's a simple question afterall！you have to understand the position and the purpose of these two dslr. D7100 is very suitable for sports photography and macro photography, as the crop options are great to do so. If you have a 300mm f4 lens, you are going to have nearly 600mm f4 without losing image quality and decrease the f-stop like using tele converter. And how much is a 600 f4? 15megapixel still awsome !

[@JonasHerbertson]

Thank you!! Think will go for the D7100 because of the video-features!

[@QuadroRC]

FX = full size sensor and DX = Cropped sensor(1.5 factor). Any lens with F mount will fit both Hope this help

[@jeffreygoodwin7256]

Very very true!!!!! I take wedding photography from my D7000. If they did not know which format camera I shot the photo on, I doubt they would be able to tell if it was taken from DX or full frame. I shoot in RAW format then edit in lightroom and convert to Jpeg.

[@fotagraphics]

Great Video.... I have a D90 and thinking about an upgrade. The D600 seemed like a great option and is available for €1500. The D7000 was my other option though I suspected this upgrade was coming. Now what? I think your on the mark if your serious you have to go full frame.

[@starchildfan83]

Not only is the D600 quite a lot more expensive than the D7100. But I would have to buy all new lenses as well. All my lenses are DX. I have a Sigma 18-200 mm, a sigma 10-20mm and a Nikkor 35mm. I could probably use them on an FX body, but there would be problems with vignetting. I'm an amateur photographer on a budget, so I think the D7100 is going to be my next upgrade. At the moment I'm using a D40.

[@hoaanhtuc4473]

starchildfan83

[@Gadgetbig]

Just got my d7100 today.. Very pleased with it

[@shropshire21]

While I would like to move to a FX body from my D7000 I am not sure if the D600 would be a good enough upgrade for me. Now if the D600 had the D7100 features : 51 AF points and faster FPS I would purchase the camera.

[@DTravisNorth]

From a sports perspective, it's pretty useful. Nevermind the burst rate, which you already mentioned. But it also means that your focusing points very nearly span the entire frame, with the center fifteen as cross-type focal points. What this really means is that your action is very easy to capture. Another point is that it gives you a nice buffer in the viewfinder to help you set up the shot. When the person runs out of frame, you can still see them in the viewfinder.

[@alexlanza79]

I'm about to buy the D7100, I'm still an amateur so the extra money I'd spend on the 600 for me are more useful to get maybe a new lens. With that being said of course now in the market there is also the D610 much better than the 600, but still to expensive for my use! Amazing comparison as always!

[@hereward1971]

currently the D7100 is £450 new......I'm a freelance photographer for a nation motorbike magazine, I have used the D610 and hated it, I own the D7100 and cant recommend it enough. As soon as anyone says DX is and amateur or intermediate sensor camera and a FX sensor camera is a pro camera.........stop listening. If you want a "pro" big sensor camera buy a medium format or large format camera just don't shoot sports with it ;)

[@sauronbaggins1833]

You are saying that DX is not amateur yet you are saying that if you want to go "pro" then do not go for Full Frame but go to Medium format or Full format?.

[@hereward1971]

No I was being sarcastic, there is a train of thought that pros must use full frame because there bigger than DX.....using that logic, to be pro you must shoot hasselblad or phase 1 medium format because it's bigger than FX or full frame........Which is a nonsense, many shoot smaller than DX, I have a friend who shoots fashion and fantasy sets including a couple of album covers using a phone camera and instamatics. I think Jarred Pollin recently did a shoot with a Nikon D1x for a youtube video. I'm currently using a D700 fx and a D2x dx and a lot of film cameras as well. The cameras just a tool, for certain jobs a big sensor is the right tool and for others a small sensor is right. People can get hung up on the marketing hype of huge megapixel and iso numbers and big sensor sizes, but ultimately it's the photographer making the image not the tech. But back on subject the D7100 for the money is a fantastic bit of kit.

[@sauronbaggins1833]

You are absolutely right!. The photographer is what it counts. The other is secondary and only improves what you consider you do best.

[@crazybabysittertwin]

I'm an amateur photog who's gotten some pro work here & there, & I've been shooting with a d70 for about 8-9 years. It's great quality shots, & a tough, durable camera. It's a dinosaur though & dying a slow death. I'm looking to upgrade by April. From a financial standpoint, is it worth it to go for the d600 over the d7100 (for the FX quality) when I'll have to get all new lenses, too? Interested to hear your thoughts. Thanks.

[@PhotographsbyDavid]

I shot an engagement shoot with my D7000 with of course prime lens, and the photos were tack shape, and AWB was dead on. I have a d600 body too, and the AWB had to be customized plus 1, due to green cast. I am trading p to the D7100, and hope for more wonders??

[@avaxtan]

A great spec to spec compare. If given that both perform almost the same at low light, I will choose D7100 to replace my D300 as my main camera. Cos I will the light weight of a DX system when you need to carry the camera for a whole day.

[@Maverick62AB]

If I may Be so bold, you can use the Crop Frame of the D600 for your DX Lenses, plus Full Frame non-AF Lenses can be had for very Reasonable Prices on ebay, if it were me, i would go full frame because this is a Passion of mine, if you're looking to Just "point-and-shoot" there is no need to Dump lots into new lenses or a Full frame Body, However if you want to take Pictures of the Stars or have Long Night Exposures, you'll do best to go Full Frame, that's just my $.02

[@youknowitstrue3403]

I've seen many ISO test comparisons between the D600 & D7000 and the D7000 wasn't too far behind. My question to you is how can you know what the D7100's ISO performance is like without actually having a copy to compare side by side.

[@alainrousseau1010]

Clear and essential explanations. Thanks a lot Saf ! I bought a D7100 last month :-) Bye !

[@timdawg747]

You did a good job explaining the features...

[@Butterkeks551]

What do you think how much the D7100 will cost in September? I bought the D5100 last year to start with DSLR photography and I want to buy a better DSLR this year, but still keep my lenses I bought for the DX sensor size.

[@antonioabad4351]

very well explained! given the advantages of an FX, the D600 is surely the way to go to upgrade my D300. please tell me if it will be a gamble to buy the D600 at this time given the dust/oil problem complaints appearing on several nikon forums. thank you.

[@MartinNY78]

Hi, good video. If you already own Dx lenses there is no point of getting D600, correct? Simply it won't work on FX.

[@CJTakGaming]

I think having a full frame sensor does have a big difference. I would really love to upgrade from my very old Canon EOS Kiss X since it has already been 6-7 years now. But I am also considering some mirror less cameras which are currently in the market but I also want to wait for what's gonna come in winter 2013-2014.

[@tusk333656]

Easy answer. Yes the D7100 looks promising, and after seeing it and how it works, it will be a great camera, but The D600 has a full frame sensor which way more desirable in professional photography. I also like how Nikon FINALLY admitted to saying the D7000 sensor was crap, due to auto focus issues. Yes I have sent in two of D7000 bodies for repair (which was warrantied but still) A full frame is where you want to be with sharpness no low light capabilities.

[@Gadgetbig]

I'm happy I bought the d7100,, the pics look freaking awesome... I know u get less noise with the d600,, but is it really worth paying more for,, and u have to buy fx lenses,, if u want the best proformance and crop rate... And full frames sensors get dirty and oily more quickly...

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks for watching :-)

[@DanleHS]

I think both camera are very good ones and the choice of one them would depende on the kind of photography, full-frame is a really good feature but many features of the d7100 make it competitive, especially on tele-photography.

[@BraineFreeze305]

Yes we have people that get obsessed with marketing and have to have the so called full frame sensor just to say they have it even though if you take a photo with either camera you will not be able to tell the difference. Nikon knows this and are cashing in on those types. I bet if you take photos with a good lens on both you will not be able to tell the difference. Choosing the D7100 will just be saving money and you will have more features.

[@mikeraspa7644]

I'm looking to upgrade this summer from my D90, and I've been back and forth between the D600 and the D7100. I'm currently in school for photography but also work as a photographer shooting sports, different plays and starting to get into concerts. Was wondering your insite of what to choose. Also I've heard a lot about oil spots with the D600, would you happen to know anything about that?

[@sighland]

Well presented.. made a lot of sense, minus the confusion.. btw, I've made up my mind on the D7100.. good show, friend.. cheers..

[@WilliamdiazUK]

Hi Saf, I’ve upgraded from the D5200 to the D7100 but unfortunately the first unit I received came with a few oil spots on the sensor. Last week I received a replacement and realized that there oil spots on the replacement as well. Would you recommend sending it back or buying the Sensor cleaning kit and give it a shot? I’d really appreciate if you could let me know. Thanks in advance!

[@SuperSaf]

Lol not necessarily, but obviously depends on each individuals preference

[@markuslh]

Except for the higher burst rate, isn't the Crop mode completely useless since I can do the same crop in post?

[@ctprocess]

Your right, unless you’re taking, say pro modeling photos, an intermediate camera will do just fine. Professional pictures like in modeling, deal with advance lighting and exposure, which require higher end pro cameras.

[@MyLifeWonderful]

Good review. Thank you. I've got the D600 but am thinking about a D7100 when the price comes down as a second body.

[@cc00nneerr]

Not sure if you are aware, but the d600 has had several issues with oil spots on the screen that nikon is neglecting to fix!

[@AllorNone23]

So much more informative and useful than Digital Rev's review. Great job!

[@Xzefreeman]

There are three option IMO, if you have the wealth go with the d800 body, not much price difference between a d600 w/ kit lens. and if you have a modest salary and is the most desperate to have a full frame (like me) go with the d600. then again, your point as said "get the D7100 and spend the rest of your money on traveling and some good glasses (so you can take more photographs)". :)

[@razrv3lc]

So according to this video, the only advantage the D600 has over the D7100 is the FX sensor and better low-light performance? Why would you buy the D600? It has the dust and oil on the sensor issue too...

[@carpandean]

@1:45 - nitpicky detail, but the D600's FF sensor is not ~50% bigger. The D7100's sensor is a little less than 50% (~43%) of the size of the D600's, but that's not the same thing. At 864mm^2, a FF sensor is 134% larger (i.e., it is 2.34x as big) than the APS-C 370mm^2 sensor (even worse if you consider Canon's 329mm^2 APS-C sensor.) APS-C is actually much closer in size to FT (Four Thirds) than to FF. Note: I'm not a sensor snob, as I've gone mostly to m4/3 (with a little APS-H, too.)

[@colblimp]

I had a D90 for 4 years and upgraded straight to a D700, full frame is the only way to go after such a great camera as the D90.