Nikon D850 vs D5 - Focus & 3D Tracking

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Matt Granger

Matt Granger

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@impianotespaul
@impianotespaul 7 жыл бұрын
Her smile lights up the world.
@createthisdotcom
@createthisdotcom 7 жыл бұрын
when you hand held in the park, did you turn 3d AF off, or did you leave it on? Sorry, I'm unclear on that.
@charlierivera5725
@charlierivera5725 2 жыл бұрын
Just recently switched from Nikon Z6ii to Nikon D5 and is unbelievable how good for sports is the D5. I am not a professional photographer but love to shoot anything really. I do miss the flip screen and a few other features like EVF but Love the D5.
@NXDL25
@NXDL25 7 жыл бұрын
My autofocus never shifted away from Stephanie
@_rhapsodist
@_rhapsodist 7 жыл бұрын
his neither, that's why he is giggling in every video together with her :P
@harryliu2008
@harryliu2008 7 жыл бұрын
Lol😂
@pablo-zn1mg
@pablo-zn1mg 7 жыл бұрын
IKR he's got a thing for asian looking chicks.
@gearsau
@gearsau 7 жыл бұрын
Same here
@chiefdenis
@chiefdenis 7 жыл бұрын
lol, all these comments
@1melahat
@1melahat 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed people complaining about Nikon's 3D autofocus setting in the comments so I thought I would add something to the discussion. I used to to not like using 3D in my D3s and now my D5 but later learned I was not using it correctly. This is very important, with the meter on and the center point focus point lit up, you must place the lit up focus point on your subject then press and hold down the shutter release half way or press and hold down the af-on button. the 3D has now locked on to the subject and will follow it. I never knew this tid bit of info and thus when I used 3D it wouldn't work correctly. I'm not saying everyone who doesn't like 3D doesn't already know this but some probably don't know.
@dlaudiojogja
@dlaudiojogja 4 жыл бұрын
yes I have encountered a small focus point in the center, but in which side of the setting I forgot, now I haven't found it, my body is Nikon D500
@CraigLincoln1
@CraigLincoln1 7 жыл бұрын
I shot a high school football game last night to test a D850 and a D810 on a field with only four light poles. I tested with a Nikon 2.8 70-200mm and a 24-70mm because they are a part of the holy trinity of lenses. If you are well positioned, you can often get plays that come right at you, just like the papers want. I shoot continuous AF-C in single point when the play is far downfield to ensure that the AF stays on the one player. Likewise AF-C Group AF was right on when the ball was closer. I shot AF-C 9-pt or 25-pt dynamic with great results when I can be within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage . I reversed lenses and bodies at half time. The D850 nailed fous 9 out of 10 times, 8/10 in the shadowy end zones. The D810 was 7 or 8 out of 10. Try 3-D just once for close, mid, or long range in these cases and you would never do it again. The D810 nails focus 10/10 time under college stadium lights or daylight. I got the same results in dimly lit gyms for basketball and volleyball with the D810. 3D BAD. I don't know anyone who uses 3D tracking for sports because 3D zeros in on the contrast of the referees' black and white shirts. Sidenote 1: The D810 ISO 3600 is grainy. The D850 is cleaner at 6400 ISO and usable to 12k ISO. The D5 ISO is great at 52k. Sidenote 2: The D850 30 frames per second was perfect for getting extra point kicks with the ball just leaving the foot. Sidenote 3: Matt used 3D Auto-Focus with a model bouncing towards him. I have never shot that sport.
@mattboggs6304
@mattboggs6304 4 жыл бұрын
I've shot sports for about 7 years, and I agree, the 3D tracking on Nikon cameras just wasn't worth using for sports. I tried it both with the D810 and D5, and went immediately back to either single point or 9 point AF. In 2020, it seems better with the Sony A9ii, but honestly I still prefer the good old Nikon single or 9 point AF way.
@DaniCamp67
@DaniCamp67 7 жыл бұрын
Boy that gal sure is photogenic!
@mattgranger
@mattgranger 7 жыл бұрын
FIRST! Join me over at facebook.com/mattgranger for a live chat
@19Photographer76
@19Photographer76 7 жыл бұрын
People don't seem to address the battery difference between the D5 and other bodies when it comes to focusing. Place a battery girp with the EN-EL18a 10.8 VDC, 2500 mAh. Those extra 3+ volts make a major jump in performance, IMO.
@mattgranger
@mattgranger 7 жыл бұрын
+David Dube' You've tested the d850 with the grip and larger battery?
@19Photographer76
@19Photographer76 7 жыл бұрын
No, I haven't but to have an equal test for focus/tracking, both bodies should be using the same voltage. That's why I placed 'IMO'. Voltage is like water pressure (you know that but I'm just putting that for other readers). It made a major improvement with the D500 and the 200-500 lens.
@mattgranger
@mattgranger 7 жыл бұрын
haha ok. Well as far as I know, the grip isn't out yet. So this is comparing the cameras as they come. Perhaps, "in my guesstimation" is more accurate :)
@4IN14094
@4IN14094 7 жыл бұрын
Matt Granger What I really want to see is how it performs in different AF mode, I never use 3D tracking, but I do use a lots of 9-25 up to the max that Nikon offer, just NOT 3D.
@brb345620
@brb345620 7 жыл бұрын
Matt,May I suggest that the focus comparison you did (D5 vs D850) has more to do with the battery voltage than the camera itself. You can hardly expect to throw heavy glass elements around as fast with 7 volts as you can with a 10.8 volt battery. Try it again but with the battery grip.
@thingsdemystified
@thingsdemystified 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think it has to do with the lens. The camera body itself couldn't figure out which AF point to use. You can see this when the squares don't follow her. If it were a lens speed issue, the focus should have caught up with her eventually, but it never did. Also, the lens isn't moving that much.
@devilalwayscry
@devilalwayscry 5 жыл бұрын
@@thingsdemystified People talking about the battery voltage/grip add on d850 will improve the af performance. You are talking about lens, form which planet are you from?
@johanstam3602
@johanstam3602 7 жыл бұрын
I would like to see Matt do some runs
@marioarias9942
@marioarias9942 7 жыл бұрын
😅
@jolotschka
@jolotschka 7 жыл бұрын
and kicks ;-)
@mattcude6917
@mattcude6917 7 жыл бұрын
he would like to do some runs too.
@n3st0jr
@n3st0jr 7 жыл бұрын
i don't know if I'd like to see it but yeah, he should 😅
@khmershow1684
@khmershow1684 6 жыл бұрын
It would me sick!
@fghjohn
@fghjohn 7 жыл бұрын
does the additional battery grip help? since it boosts the frames from 7 to 9
@blakeparry1983
@blakeparry1983 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, Out of interest, did you do any testing of the AF that wasnt using the 3D lock on AF? E.g. holding your point over the subject and then seeing if the AF keeps up - this is often how i shoot sports rather than relying on tracking. Also, be interested to see if the D850 in crop mode focus performance is the same as the D500 Some reviewers have said that the D500 isnt as good as the D5.... so maybe they lifted the system from the D500 instead?
@mattgranger
@mattgranger 7 жыл бұрын
+Blake Parry D500 is also same AF system as D5 - but it's the whole camera package that matters
@danneukirch4486
@danneukirch4486 7 жыл бұрын
This would be interesting to test. I've never really used 3d tracking, always single point, or 9 point. I should try the 3d though but I like control.
@cooloox
@cooloox 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Matt. Thanks to both you and Stephanie for making it.
@streetgato9697
@streetgato9697 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised, had the same experience with the D810 action tracking comparison with the D4
@simon_patterson
@simon_patterson 7 жыл бұрын
Terrific test that looked and sounded great! And, most importantly, it seemed to demonstrate the difference in autofocus performance between the two cameras. Bravo!
@simon_patterson
@simon_patterson 7 жыл бұрын
Larry Luke the specs say they are the same.
@razak8528
@razak8528 7 жыл бұрын
She's beautiful!
@sonalakadesilva2349
@sonalakadesilva2349 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Matt for your review. I own a D4s for the past 4 years and sometimes not happy with the continues focusing. Also sometimes it struggles to hunt in low light. I use the holy trinity lenses. Any recommendations that I should get the D5 in replacement of D4s. Kind of reluctant to switch to Z6 as the focus tracking is not as good as D4s.
@scriptosaurusrex
@scriptosaurusrex 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt. I just want to add another vote for doing the test with the d5 battery in the d850 grip too (at 9fps happily). The d5 battery of course delivers more voltage, which is what allows the d850 to actuate the shutter faster. My d700 (anecdotally) focusses better with the grip and the higher voltages that brings, than with the standard battery. I could imagine the processor to work faster as well as the body simply being able to drive the lens motor faster improving AF performance. Thanks
@techassyst
@techassyst 7 жыл бұрын
How does the D850 tracking compare with the D500 ?
@tammylindsay5559
@tammylindsay5559 5 жыл бұрын
I have a d3200 I've started out with for taking pictures of my own family but I'm looking to start my own buisness and feel like maybe I need something more? I will be doing mostly newborn and family photos. What do u suggest? Would the 850 be too much for what I'm doing?
@mihonomoto
@mihonomoto 7 жыл бұрын
I love how you test it Matt, this reveal more than ads do, great work! BTW, the girl is cute.
@TheSuzshep
@TheSuzshep 7 жыл бұрын
I think the problem here is the 3d af - i never use it. I find it pretty unreliable even on my d5. it is ok for slow moving subjects . you would be far better to put d9 or the group on her face and hold it there . I would love to see that comparison .
@jasonspannagel798
@jasonspannagel798 7 жыл бұрын
Ian S agree 100%. I tried 3D AF for about 5 minutes of one event and said NOPE...back to group area AF or D9 or D25
@TheFykle
@TheFykle 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly...i never use 3D , its awfully erratic and unreliable
@4IN14094
@4IN14094 7 жыл бұрын
To give Nikon some credibility, they even state it in the manual pg.99-100 for 3D tracking: "with subjects that are moving erratically from side to side (e.g., tennis players)" they also stated that if the subjects goes out of frame the tracking will fail. That said, on a D850 you have to be more careful on what AF mode to use, and it will still be slightly worse then the flagships like a 1Dx 2 or the D5.
@jonneymendoza
@jonneymendoza 7 жыл бұрын
This is where the A9 runs rings around the nikons, its 3d tracking is out of this world
@CraigLincoln1
@CraigLincoln1 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know anyone who uses 3D tracking for sports because 3D zeros in on the contrast of the referees' black and white shirts. Try AF-C in single point when far away. AF-C Group AF when closer. AF-C 9-pt or 25-pt dynamic when very close.
@mikewinburn
@mikewinburn 7 жыл бұрын
matt, thanks for posting...question : are you simply using shutter release held down and following her when off tripod, or are you allowing the focus tracking system to follow you assist. around the frame? Lastly, should you use back-button focus, i'm assuming exposure is locked when you press the shutter for the pic and its using center point for exposure? thanks
@joeextraknow2854
@joeextraknow2854 7 жыл бұрын
Matt: both use separated dedicated processor to process AF. So, if you use full frame of D850 which is 47 Mpix though. You should have set D850 to DX mode that is 20 Mpix, which is apple-to-apple comparing with D5. I think it is fair to say...
@H3XIUS
@H3XIUS 7 жыл бұрын
This is going to sound like criticism, but I'm really just meaning it as a question. What did you do to remove variables from this to make your claim? Same everything including lens on the different bodies? Was the lens autocalibrated to match each body to fix any front/back focus issues, etc? Mostly I'm asking because I didn't catch you saying what variables you locked down when doing this. Different lenses even if they are the same model have slightly different performance and focus, so it entirely could have been the display lagging and not the lens/AF itself. Not saying it is either, just a possible.
@mattgranger
@mattgranger 7 жыл бұрын
+North Polar yes all of the above, all settings and calibrated lenses
@minusinfinity6974
@minusinfinity6974 7 жыл бұрын
What AF mode is he using, I'd be using group or D25, didn't look like either. Also how did they compare at same res. Resample D850 to 20MP or D5 to 46MP. With smaller battery D850 will not drive lens as fast at least with superteles, not sure about the 70-200.
@cactustweeter2890
@cactustweeter2890 7 жыл бұрын
Matt why do you think the D5 is better at tracking fast-moving subjects? Lower resolution thus less to process, or do you think it has a faster processor, or something else?
@Crewonephotography
@Crewonephotography 7 жыл бұрын
What focusing mode were you using? Looks like 3D on the D850 and Auto on the D5? But I can't imagine you would use a different mode on each.
@mattgranger
@mattgranger 7 жыл бұрын
+Crew One Photography Same settings across the board
@i.setyawan
@i.setyawan 7 жыл бұрын
No matter what camera/lenses you want to review in the future, please do keep Steph.
@Thegamerkid320
@Thegamerkid320 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Matt Did you used the same lens? Is there any chance that the lens affect the test? just a thought
@tonyfabris7259
@tonyfabris7259 7 жыл бұрын
To do a fair test why didn’t you wait to use the extra more powerful grip? That would have put the two cameras on a more levelled playing field . If the 850 performed better than the d5 in every aspect than there would be much point to continue the production of the d5.
@juliusguillermo222
@juliusguillermo222 7 жыл бұрын
I doubt Nikon wanted the D850 to compete against one of their own. It is still an impressive body as you said. This video is useful for sports or action photographers if they were thinking of picking the D850 up as their workhorse vs. something more expensive like the D5 or equivalent body from other manufacturers. Hope you could also test it further tracking race cars or planes at an airshow to get really exhaustive with the AF and Tracking tests.
@JesseBlough
@JesseBlough 7 жыл бұрын
Matt, did you try the same tests with the 3d tracking watch area set to wide or changing the focus tracking subject motion to erratic? Curious to see how much changing these settings affects the result.
@chocloditelensman
@chocloditelensman 2 жыл бұрын
Good point. It was an erratic moving subject so it should be on this setting.
@asifmatin1
@asifmatin1 7 жыл бұрын
+Matt Granger Mate what mode were you using in AF... 3D tracking?
@D800Lover
@D800Lover 7 жыл бұрын
Does the file size differences matter? There must be a *LOT* more processing with the D850.
@jasonhowells7758
@jasonhowells7758 7 жыл бұрын
May i ask why you put the D5 against the D850 without the grip? Will you do a retest when you have the grip because obviously with the grip you get more fps and the focus tracking will be alot faster.
@mattgranger
@mattgranger 7 жыл бұрын
because this is how the cameras come - ad the grip is not available for sale. So any reviews you have seen, are on the same grounds
@jerryfaircloth
@jerryfaircloth 6 жыл бұрын
Well there were just too many differences for this to be a good test. A better test would be to make sure the D850 had the grip with the EN EL18 battery so both cameras would be using the same voltage. You also should set the D850 to use an image size as close as possible to the much smaller D5 sensor resolution. Its logical moving 45MP around vs 20MP using the same CPU will be slower. It would also be very interesting to test it against a D500 where the buffer will not fill up and has a similar sensor resolution. So how bout a quick test like that Matt?
@FISHH00KS
@FISHH00KS Жыл бұрын
Matt - maybe I missed it, but did you use the same lens and settings? or would that even make a difference? (I could never get my wife to run like Stephanie and I don't want to stand in front of charging cheetah) Thanks
@mattgranger
@mattgranger Жыл бұрын
I can’t say for sure - it was years ago. But I assume I did, yeah.
@Snerkler1
@Snerkler1 7 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Will you be comparing the D850 against the D750 at all as I'd like to know how the AF compares, and the shutter noise actually?
@jrulison
@jrulison 7 жыл бұрын
The D850 has a setting for Autofocus called erratic. When she was doing the scramble did you have that enable?
@docpearson
@docpearson 6 жыл бұрын
I think you missed something Matt. You did not mention how many megapixels the D8 50 was set on doing the tracking. As you know the D5 has half the megapixels and therefore can work and record quicker. If you set the amount of megapixels in the D850 to equal what is in the D5 then possibly it can track just as fast as the D5. can you try that please.
@haiderabbas96
@haiderabbas96 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, I have D750 (might upgrade to D850 later). I want one excellent lens for landscapes with a standard size filter system like this Nisi 100mm. Any opinions between Nikon 18-35mm f3.5-4.5 G and Tamron 15-30mm f2.8?
@iiAhamd
@iiAhamd 7 жыл бұрын
great info very interesting would it make a difference if you have the grip on the D850? or could it be that your D850 is have a problem in the focusing system? thanks and keep it up!!!
@thisis5123
@thisis5123 7 жыл бұрын
I just have to say this because it's my strong opinion, and i think it matters for anyone concerned with AF performance of the D850 or D5 or other Nikons. The Default AF setup of the D850, is probably more adjusted towards static, or less erratically moving subjects. There are settings that adjust the behavior of the 3D Tracking. If this test had been done with the " Blocked shot AF Response" set to 1 instead of the default of 3, along with the subject motion set to erratic, than I think this test could have gone differently. It only makes sense that Nikon would set the default settings to slightly different purposes between the D5 and D850. If this had been tested under different circumstances with the default settings, than its possible the D850 would have out performed with a less erratically moving subject. However, a setting change makes a world of difference, as these cameras come out of the box designed to do different things. They should both be able to match each other ability when setup properly. However I could be wrong, and maybe the D850 is still handicapped in some way. We won't know this for sure however until someone who owns these cameras tests them with different settings.
@thingsdemystified
@thingsdemystified 6 жыл бұрын
It's not that the D850 is handicapped. The D5 just has far more processing power for its AF system.
@ryanthomas9306
@ryanthomas9306 7 жыл бұрын
This was really cool to watch
@hankdinardo4308
@hankdinardo4308 7 жыл бұрын
Yes Matt but with a smaller battery. What was you shutter speed because the exposures looked different.
@TravisNutley
@TravisNutley 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. How would you compare the autofocus of the D850 to the D500? I have a D500 now and a D800, and wonder when a good time to upgrade would be.
@ChillWill9311
@ChillWill9311 7 жыл бұрын
What if you used the hand grip with the extra battery on the D850 ? Do you think it's performance would have been better ?
@Helikopterpop
@Helikopterpop 3 жыл бұрын
Did you use the exact same lens for both test? Otherwise it wont be apples to apples. The lens plays an important role in tracking and focus speed.
@charlstondsouza2097
@charlstondsouza2097 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, I'm a event / wedding photographer, main reason to upgrade from my d750 and d610 is the ISO which one would you recommend considering I shoot in low light many atimes, how about the d4s vs the d850, both have the same native ISO of 25,600 Which one would be better in terms of HIGH ISO image quality between the d4s vs d850 and high ISO between the d850 vs the D5 i'm getting a used d4s with 40k shutter count for $4200, you think its worth buying it I know I sound confused, truth is I am Thanks in advance
@antonoat
@antonoat 7 жыл бұрын
Great illustration, cheers for sharing this Matt, great job.PS always enjoy your videos!
@Snerkler1
@Snerkler1 7 жыл бұрын
@Matt Granger did you fine tune the lenses on both cameras? As other people have mentioned it would be interesting to see results with the grip and more powerful battery as there's a good chance that this will make a difference. How do they compare using single point AF-C rather than 3D tracking? I've never had great success with 3D tracking with Nikons, but never had any of the flagship models (D4, D5)
@rishisarangi
@rishisarangi 7 жыл бұрын
good one Matt . really helped view through the hype of d850.
@razvanstefanescu3521
@razvanstefanescu3521 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, I would like to know can you use the sd cards with the Nikon d850 or do you need to get the new qxd card for the Nikon d850?
@mattgranger
@mattgranger 7 жыл бұрын
+Razvan Stefanescu I suggest XQD
@guilhermerocha1555
@guilhermerocha1555 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt! First, let me say your videos are incredible and I've been binge wachting your whole channel! But let me ask you something. I'm into portraiture and leaving my Canon T6 for a new system. Eventually I do landscape and some video, just for fun. I am trying to decide between Fuji X-T2 and Nikon D500. Honestly, I am leaning towards Fuji. But it feels like every time I think I've made my decision and I'm reaching out my arm to get it, I read some opinion like "the D500 low light performance is better" or "Nikon's focus system is amazing" and automatically take a step back. My plan is to pick the body and one or two primes, like 35mm and 50mm. Which one do you think I should get?
@mattgranger
@mattgranger 7 жыл бұрын
+Guilherme Rocha try them both, see what you like
@guilhermerocha1555
@guilhermerocha1555 7 жыл бұрын
The mains problem with going with fx body is that the lenses are considerably more expensive.
@pianonumb
@pianonumb 6 жыл бұрын
I think its worth rewatching this without sound, id still give it a thumbs up. Stephanie is just a serotonin boost
@kvdgadj
@kvdgadj 6 жыл бұрын
Don't have the money for D5 or D850. So what dsla should I buy?
@francisenaje
@francisenaje Жыл бұрын
Does the square moves itself or you need to press something?
@robcole5246
@robcole5246 7 жыл бұрын
How do you think it would compare to the D500?
@veneratedmortal4369
@veneratedmortal4369 7 жыл бұрын
Was that in 3d focus? The 850 missed every shot in one at the end with good light! I shoot alot of wildlife with my d750 and i never have to worry about it being out of focus in good light like that.
@Nickkettt
@Nickkettt 7 жыл бұрын
Great Job Matt. I want the same test for tracking D5 - D500 !!
@jaimeduncan6167
@jaimeduncan6167 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, same result with the D500. It could be related to the Battery, maybe the processor is running faster. Maybe if you happen to have access to the grip you may want to chek. Exelent findings. The other issue is the number of pixels: maybe the processor has less free time to devote to the AF. Steph is simply great. It was a fantastic person for the colaborations. She is not only super beatiful, she is atletic, smart and good sport and the camera loves her.. Dificult to want anything else for a Photography channel.
@I_asked_alex
@I_asked_alex 7 жыл бұрын
Matt you should probably try AUTO AFC as it prioritizes face first THEN subject However did you set your D5 and D850 to face track 3d ? or one not the other ? also what was your watch area set too ?
@WhittyPics
@WhittyPics 7 жыл бұрын
Curious did you try tweaking the focus settings? It can be tweaked to make it more responsive to erratic moving subjects.
@pfdcaw
@pfdcaw 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. D5 is good sport camera. I’d like to see landscape test and portrait 👍🏻
@mattgranger
@mattgranger 7 жыл бұрын
Very fair comment - they are different cameras. And where the D5 shines in some areas, the D850 sure does in others.
@smurfrock
@smurfrock 7 жыл бұрын
How is it compared ot the D500. If the D850 and D5 Share the same focusing system, where does the D850 compare closer to. It seems like a performance issue, slower processor maybe.
@keikaikakupaa
@keikaikakupaa 7 жыл бұрын
I just gotta say that it is rather difficult to be able to kick with that much weight on her feet - that's quite impressive.Were any shots done without the shoes on? to see the difference her movement as well?
@IkoPB
@IkoPB 6 жыл бұрын
Really impressive! I have the D5 and the D4s. What kind of focus system do you think is better for weightlifting, or training sports like CrossFit? Group, 3D or 159 points.... thanks Matt!
@ChrisDavisClicksByChris
@ChrisDavisClicksByChris 7 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this same test, or your thoughts (Matt), on the D4s vs the D850. I'm in the market for a new body, and leaning towards the D4s (need really good AF for fast action dogs).
@robwilliams2735
@robwilliams2735 7 жыл бұрын
I found the same with the D500, meant to be the same D5 AF system but 3D tracking was always poor.
@shubhabrataadhikary6565
@shubhabrataadhikary6565 7 жыл бұрын
Should it have tracked better using group AF instead of single point - Have heard for most action shoots, they use Group AF instead of Single Point.
@dustysgap4297
@dustysgap4297 7 жыл бұрын
Loved the test. Loved her bubbly energy.
@hansvanleen
@hansvanleen 7 жыл бұрын
Should the D850? have a software update fore the tracking and focus?
@MyAmericanMorning
@MyAmericanMorning 7 жыл бұрын
I noticed the D850 buffer filled up and shots slowed down at 20 shots or so and you switched to jpeg. I thought the buffer could hold 51 raw shots before slowing down. Am I wrong? Or maybe ... do you not have an XQD card in the D850? Or maybe ... the 51 raw shots only happen with the vertical grip attached? Or maybe ... what sounded like 20 shots was a lot more.
@mattgranger
@mattgranger 7 жыл бұрын
+My American Morning I had fastest XQD installed
@MyAmericanMorning
@MyAmericanMorning 7 жыл бұрын
And that was about three seconds before it slowed down ... which means about twenty shots before shooting slows from the 7 shots per second. I guess I misunderstood the specs.
@blakeparry1983
@blakeparry1983 7 жыл бұрын
probably shooting uncompressed raw, in which case the buffer is 29 on the D850 and 102 on the D5
@Crewchief227
@Crewchief227 7 жыл бұрын
I have a D5 so I know what to expect in that regard, but does the D850 have the second AF processor or did they leave that out like they did on the D500, which also are supposed to have the "same" AF system?
@longrider9551
@longrider9551 7 жыл бұрын
devil always in the details lol
@StevePerformanceca
@StevePerformanceca 7 жыл бұрын
D500 DOES have the second AF processor
@romiemiller3093
@romiemiller3093 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still using a D800,which works great for me. I want to upgrade to a D850 rather than the Z7ll for three reasons: the D850 is now showing up used in near new condition at significant savings; The battery lasts longer in the D850; and I don't need an adapter to continue using my current lenses.
@jackdumanat49
@jackdumanat49 7 жыл бұрын
do you reckon it's more software issue and maybe needs update?
@decoff
@decoff 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just surprised she didnt break your camera with that infectious smile. Thanks for the real world test, i just got back from Laguna Seca shooting Motorcycles and worked on many focus settings with the D850 and a D3. I found similar results with the D3 doing better at follow focus and the D850 lacking on its buffer.
@mrLebesgueintegral
@mrLebesgueintegral 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you. As that was 3 years ago, does anyone know if later firmware updates have improved the tracking performance of the D850? I have been planning to get the D850 for bird photography.
@Razzer0693
@Razzer0693 2 жыл бұрын
oh man im in the same boat now! did you finally get it? im hunting for a d500 but its nowhere available new or used in Goa,India
@nickgill7941
@nickgill7941 7 жыл бұрын
In this video you are wearing a camera strap ( orange ), can you please let me know more info ie Manufactures name and cost etc
@mattgranger
@mattgranger 7 жыл бұрын
+Colin Gill Blackrapid
@hitmanhart22
@hitmanhart22 7 жыл бұрын
this was a nice test. Great work Matt. What's your thought when compared to a Sony A9
@user-tv5dt3nm9y
@user-tv5dt3nm9y 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. The results beg the question of why, the difference in performance? I added my own sound effects...dah dah dah dah....di di di di... for Steph's bionic performance.
@hagentrondheim3675
@hagentrondheim3675 7 жыл бұрын
Astonishing result. There is nothing better than a real world test
@rajivdancestudiords9683
@rajivdancestudiords9683 7 жыл бұрын
Good review matt
@MArk-yn4sp
@MArk-yn4sp 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to put both cameras side by side and shoot movement simultaneously? For example, twin cameras taking photos of birds would show nature photographers the most accurate comparisons. Keep up the the good (and critical) work.
@shubhabrataadhikary6565
@shubhabrataadhikary6565 7 жыл бұрын
Also did you use exact same lens for both ?
@mattgranger
@mattgranger 7 жыл бұрын
+Shubhabrata Adhikary As I said, same lens and settings, scenario and conditions. As close as I could get outside of a lab
@saffronfalcon
@saffronfalcon 7 жыл бұрын
I get it your d5 is better. now mail me that no good d850 of yours and i'll send u a thank you card.
@sadaharanjantagorkheydai9692
@sadaharanjantagorkheydai9692 7 жыл бұрын
I am really dissapoint with focus tracking of d850 d5 seems look good thank you matt!
@Dekpk90
@Dekpk90 7 жыл бұрын
Just curious, how does the focus compared to D500??
@mattboggs6304
@mattboggs6304 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how they compare using single point or 9 point AF instead of 3D tracking?
@vasiliosdinis5639
@vasiliosdinis5639 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clearing this up Matt. You nailed it. 👌🏼🙌🏼 AF and high ISO is important to me so D5 it is.
@ofergigi
@ofergigi 7 жыл бұрын
Matt, can you say anything about how D850 AF compares to D500?
@syedshehzad8149
@syedshehzad8149 4 жыл бұрын
I have focusing problem in my d750 When i want take pictures in portraits mode, remember i always use AUTO FOCUSING..when i half press shutter for focusing purpose(as usual i want focus at subject face) but after many time half press button,points alway never focus FACE,they always focus subject body..pls guide that what i do when i want exact focus at subject face..plss guide
@bird271828
@bird271828 7 жыл бұрын
Matt, how does this compare with the 5D Mark IV?
@shitdick95
@shitdick95 7 жыл бұрын
I would really like to know if it’s just a software issue, firmware issue, or lack of voltage that would cause it to be slower. After all it is supposed to have identical AF systems. Watching this vid makes me think this could be correctable, and close the gap between the amount of shots lost to out of focus frames.
@ramneekkalra9989
@ramneekkalra9989 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Matt, Could you please test D850 compared to a canon camera which is similar in spec/range/cost. Same focus tracking test.
@zonmank5360
@zonmank5360 7 жыл бұрын
Thank u sir for more information about D850 vs D5 auto focus. But I have D500, it's also better than D850 in auto focus?
@JesseBlough
@JesseBlough 7 жыл бұрын
Interested to see if the D850 focus tracking keeps up with the D5 any better if you shoot in medium quality raw (puts them at comparable resolution). It should at least solve buffering issues, but does it affect tracking in any way?
@RobertoPavan
@RobertoPavan 7 жыл бұрын
mRAW doesn't solve the buffering issues as the same pipeline is used prior to downsizing.
@JesseBlough
@JesseBlough 7 жыл бұрын
You're right. I thought it would make more sense to process before the buffer leading to less data to clear after writing to the card but after researching, it looks like all the information points to all RAW data being stored in the buffer and then processed and written to card (even though Nikon, Canon, etc. do not specifically disclose this). Interesting, I wonder what benefit this offers over processing first. Seems that, if RAW medium is around 25mp, they could significantly improve performance over full RAW if information stored in the buffer was reduced...
@CJMajesty
@CJMajesty 7 жыл бұрын
Can it focus track in silent mode when it shoots with the mirror up like a mirrorless using live view?
@9mmbetamax316
@9mmbetamax316 4 жыл бұрын
Im blown away by stephanie, she's 👍
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