Nikon Z6 III N-RAW - A Deep Dive

[@cammackey]

Man that color shift in the lower end in 4K raw. Was hoping they would fix that, but maybe it’s just part of the process that can’t be fixed. I guess the good thing is tho that 4k 24 and 60fps match on the Z6

[@tfransson]

Totally agree with your conclusion about 10 bit.265 422, hopefully they can fix it with a fw update. As a Z6 shooter, I am hesitant to upgrade until I know this will happen.

[@derekdibrell2067]

Would love to see a video on how you actually grade the Z6III footage in Davinci!

[@praveenkumar-tz6ys]

Please we need a side by side comparison test for Dynamic range test with A7iv, A7siii & Lumix S5ii. There's one review already on youtube by Tony & Chelsea Northrup. The whole comment section is filled with people telling it's more baised review. these is why i come to you now. Please 🙏

[@MrDarkan74]

Yes please that would be very helpful !

[@Josh_Sattin]

Unfortunately I do not have any of those cameras. Thanks for watching!

[@discotechwreck]

Fantastic video! Thanks for the in-depth analysis

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@diymitchvlogs]

I just picked up this camera. I'm definitely usin it for video! I've graduated from the GoPro. I hope it will help me grow my channel!

[@truthkeeperfilms]

Great video again Josh. I'm still a little disappointed at the flickering and color shifts on the Z6 III. It's almost a perfect hybrid. Let's see what Nikon says about the flickering and color shifts.

[@SmartMediaToday]

Great video, thanks for the info. I'll be picking up my z6III soon.

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@cinematools]

Great video. 4K probably uses line-skipping because I've seen some banding and other artifacts in 4k FX mode.

[@JoshuaDeanHealey]

I just got a Z8 and have been playing around with it. I noticed 4k has banding/lines when zoomed in lol

[@shadeland]

I love that it's 10-bit 4:2:0, as most computers can handle that no problem. 4:2:2 is a struggle for most as most devices don't have hardware acceleration for it.

[@tebnuhotep217]

Once Again As Usual, Great Video !

[@Josh_Sattin]

Thanks for watching!

[@peternavanac9310]

Super helpful. Thanks for sharing!

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@plataneropr]

Hello Josh, thanks for the video. I have a quick question. When I import the .nev files from the CFexpress card to the Mac, I also get .mp4 files. Is there a way to only import N-RAW files?

[@jameshughes644]

I’m thinking of buying the Nikon Z6 III or the Sony FX 3 which one would you suggest? Mainly for video and some photography.

[@gurpreetsandhar]

Thank you Josh for in depth analysis, could you please explain why there’s flickering in shadows in high dynamic range tests in the video , is it a issue with Nikon z6iii only or other brands like canon behave similarly in raw?

[@robert_may]

@gurpreetsandhar I think you commented on one of my videos about this the other day. Check out @testcams latest video about it as he provides a technical explanation as to what's going on - it's seemingly a problem with the sensor readout regarding black level varying from frame to frame. I'm currently trawling Z6III video footage from various people (hence ending up here) checking to see if I can see it on all the different copies. From my experience it's in every recording format on the Z6III and I've not seen it on any other cameras myself.

[@robert_may]

@HybridCameraPerspectives Yeah it's definitely worst and most visible at ISO 5000, though it's present at every ISO and becomes more visible as you boost shadows. I've been trying to let some of the bigger channels and sites know about this because as far as I know only myself and @testcams are reporting it on KZbin so far, though currently I've had no response from anyone.

[@gurpreetsandhar]

Hey @@robert_may!! Josh was talking about digital flicker thats not available in raw modes. There are couple of deflicker settings on the z6iii and one of those is digital flicker. Ive seen flickering on z8, z9 in raw but it’s not as high as z6iii, it might have something to do with resolution that high resolutions 8k viewed on 4k screens resolution get compressed twice we dont perceive it as as high as on z6iii.. I don’t know i could be wrong..

[@robert_may]

@@gurpreetsandhar Yeah those deflicker options in theory offset flickering caused by artificial lights, which they usually do by adjusting the timing of the shutter or micro-adjusting the shutter speed. I'm actually surprised they disable those flicker options for NRAW - I don't really see why the micro-adjusted shutter speeds wouldn't be compatible. Sensor readout speed is probably why you'd see more of that in the Z6III anyway, as the sensor in the Z8/Z9 is very fast (I think roughly 4x faster than the cycle time of LED lights here in the UK, which is 20ms), and I think about 3x faster than the Z6III sensor readout. Different recording modes will affect that readout speed though so you might be able to tweak the settings to improve that in some ways 🤔 Unfortunately the black level flicker occurs even outdoors without any artificial lighting, which is what we're seeing in the shadows on footage from the Z6III (and the flicker I can see in this video is consistent with how it looks for me and @testcam's tests).

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome. I'm not sure what's going on there. I compared the Z6III to a few other cameras in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3eZfYudm6qEoq8 FYI, I shot all of the tests in this video at ISO 800. Also, the test next to the window there wasn't any artificial light present. Just the natural light coming through the window.

[@coreyoflanagan6055]

We have a client who just upgraded to this Nikon and his video files are 10X the size that they used to be. i don't shoot Nikon, so not sure how to help him reduce. Could you possibly suggest a couple of options we could look at? He does not need those massive files for the shooting he is doing.

[@kingkrukgaming]

Very thorough explanations Josh. I always refer back to these kinds of videos. 👍 Also, what adapter are you using for your Otus to Z mount?

[@Josh_Sattin]

Thanks! Fringer EF-NZ II Adapter - geni.us/xhiaX

[@jessecumberledge4530]

They have to fix the curve in the shadows. Doesn't hold up to the others.

[@geoffreybassett6741]

Have you done a test in HLG in H265? Wondering if it reduces the flickering in the shadows issue.

[@Josh_Sattin]

I have not. I generally only shoot and test the log profiles in cameras.

[@geoffreybassett6741]

@@Josh_Sattin Only reason I bring it up is that on the Leica SL2 & S1H if you shot in HLG it would give you cleaner images with nearly the same dynamic range.

[@comment_below]

great vid -still watching .... but do you what memory card to get??? I didnt see a chapter on this

[@Josh_Sattin]

Thanks! There are some recommendations in the description of the video.

[@comment_below]

@@Josh_Sattin thanks G! Have you heard/seen cards overheating / not work on 6(3)?

[@Josh_Sattin]

I have not seen that, but I had limited time with the Z6III.

[@alansarpy]

Josh will you do a comparison on the z6iii raw vs the Black Magic full frame raw .... A raw image quality comparison of the two?

[@Josh_Sattin]

Hey Alan. I compared the dynamic range in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3eZfYudm6qEoq8

[@alansarpy]

@@Josh_Sattin my bad!! should of checked your library ... Great Live cast BTW

[@tonio3289]

MERCI JOSH !!!!

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome!

[@marcelkrownmotorworks9842]

I'm absolutely torn, whether to buy this camera or not. Those noise in the shadows keeps me thinking not to buy the Nikon. I really hope they gonna fix it.

[@LuanNguyen-ms4qe]

I heard that Nikon can shoot 12bit: but in the introduction you only talked about 10bit. I don't know if you have experienced 12bit. Can you share with me? Thanks.

[@Josh_Sattin]

I would watch the whole video. NRAW and Prores Raw is 12 bit. Prores 422 HQ and H.265 10-bit is 10 bit.

[@alansarpy]

ok just saw a few KZbin videos of people using the sony amount lens adapter for this camera...!

[@Josh_Sattin]

Yeah I've heard good things about the Megadep adapter. I haven't tried it myself though.

[@petersuvara]

DX mode kills the DR even more. Had no idea about this. Why would it be?

[@Josh_Sattin]

Cropping in on the sensor will add more noise.

[@petersuvara]

@@Josh_Sattin I see, thanks for clarifying Josh.

[@MichaelAndrews-rp2od]

It's unfortunate there is no OG option. Worse still, no 17:9 either? No reason for a cinematographer to pick this up until more recording options are available.

[@Rq6rqraRqgsg5wys-yj4ti]

Hi josh R7 or A7iv or R6 mark ii for video

[@Josh_Sattin]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoDJhnWFqc-ShK8

[@Rq6rqraRqgsg5wys-yj4ti]

@Josh_Sattin please recommend me one of them....I'm Egyptian not English So I can't understand all the videos

[@nigerian-nightmare]

​@@Rq6rqraRqgsg5wys-yj4tigo for r6ii no question on that.

[@alwinbenjamin]

👑👑👑

[@Vladi_mir_M]

Reupload?

[@Josh_Sattin]

Nope. I made a very similar video about the Z8. This is for the Z6 III.

[@Vladi_mir_M]

@@Josh_Sattin oh thanks! Your videos are very usefull for me!

[@Josh_Sattin]

You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@achdigitalphotography711]

Josh, can you share some N-Raw Log files? Could be this camera or the Z8. Thank you!

[@bapack2gamink]

❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥

[@WizardOfCheese]

23:05 i think you need a new monitor, there's an obvious difference with the prores

[@kitipoomphantukit8750]

Is 4k 120 4:2:0 ?

[@Josh_Sattin]

I think you can record 4K DX 120fps in NRAW. You can find the full specs in the manual here: download.nikonimglib.com/archive6/YHvK7000LU1C06ZyhA16461cwR37/Z6IIIRG_(En)04.pdf

[@amermeleitor]

Nikon bought RED. ¿Do you think in the future Nikon will use R3D files in Z cameras?

[@Josh_Sattin]

I hope so!

[@gnkstudios6138]

An article just came out on Monday I think where Nikon told the press they would be bringing Red sensor tech into their mirrorless cameras. We obviously knew this would eventually happen but maybe it’ll happen sooner than expected.

[@amermeleitor]

@@gnkstudios6138 the development time of a camera is a bit more than 3 years normally, but that it's when you have your heritage tech. If you need to incorporate new things maybe that will be more. Maybe 4 years until pre production units.

[@Bradlee217]

Idk if its me but I do see a lot of flickering on the shadows throughout the video. hope that can be fixed on an update

[@Josh_Sattin]

Yeah it's there. I'm not sure what is causing that. I should have mentioned it during the video but at least it's documenting here for others to see.

[@Bradlee217]

@@Josh_Sattin I didn’t ask if it was shot on the z6III but I found this video today showing the issue and how to temporarily solve it kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXjRaIJ9aLuKaKssi=qGNpPwGVkBwFe1N0

[@mathiaserichsen8177]

Thanks for this great video ❤ I’m looking for a camera to replace my A7S III as the photo resolution is a bit too low, and as a long time RED user I’m tempted to go Nikon now as I’m guessing/hoping stuff eventually will trickle down to Nikon cameras. Do you think the Z6 III is a good replacement or would the Z8 be a more comparable option to the A7S III in regards to video and autofocus capabilities? 🫣

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome. The Z8 is a more capable video camera than the Z6III.