Nikon Zf Hands On: The Best "Vintage" Mirrorless Camera

[@geraldundone]

#PatrickElbow

[@jackwillexplode]

Elbow was mvp for sure

[@mcronfpv8736]

@@jackwillexplode hahaha patrick can never go un noticed

[@imaner76]

Time to give him the elbow? 😂

[@svendollbaum1338]

I was triggered so much by the articulating arm i couldn´t focus the review anymore.

[@peichenFilm]

wheres the fujifilm gfx

[@curtisworhach]

im a fan of the chaperone interview dynamic. it was interesting to have a person there to immediately give feedback and answers when you had a question or critique

[@TheKillingTreeTT]

It's funny how KZbin is turning to a SNL type of tv show 😅

[@LashanR]

I am too, though I think it would be better if Gerald had time to test out the camera privately before the chaperone style setup. More experience and can get his questions answered

[@nathanjohnson5304]

Agreed, if it's gonna be a preview video anyway, this is just better IMO. Getting some insight into the design philosophy from an actual Nikon rep helps and differentiates your content from the sea of other preview videos where no one is doing hard review work.

[@andreialexandru05]

It was refreshingly different - and that is good. More dynamic than a monologue. Not that the monologues are bad per se, but you know, diverse content and stuff. Plus it's a proven format for a reason - it works, it's fun, it creates conversation.

[@naders.171]

Unlike some car dealership salespersons who do not know their cars and try to make a sale by BSing you, the chaperone was very knowledgeable about the product and their lineup. More chaperones please!

[@thatjordandrake]

You made Chris a guest, we made him hold a light. You're nicer.

[@trym2121]

Now I just noticed Chris is the pinball/light guy from PP video. You're making Nikon guy to hold and promote westcott. Genius!

[@TehKei]

I was curious who that guy was lol.

[@suatst]

😂😂😂

[@Gremlack13]

He did a great job holding that light, by the way!!!

[@chrisogonek4304]

I think they only used me because of my height 😂@@Gremlack13

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

Gerald said “WHAT” to the micro sd card slot like my man, Skeletor. Midnight video, screaming like Skeletor, talk show set - I’m loving this multiverse

[@darksiderahb]

Honestly, I am a little shocked more cameras haven't used micro SD as a second card option. Especially considering how many action cams and drones have recorded some flavor of 4k to micro SD for years, now. Having a micro SD backup is genius. It certainly beats having no backup at all. This camera is making a strong case over something like a Fuji XT5 or similar Fuji camera.

[@ashliehiggins]

But Fuji film sims, and Fuji colour, and marginally cheaper lenses.

[@trym2121]

Because micro-sd uhs II is really rare and maybe easy to break due to its size. Even this camera is uhs I micro SD card slot

[@danielvilliers612]

​@ashliehiggins nikon does have a nice set of affordable lens ,for example they have a full trinity of tamron licensed 2.8 trinity lenses. Then you have all the cheap Chinese coming out.

[@CianMcsweeney]

It's close but not quite ahead of the x-t5 for me personally, 40mp, lack of lenses with aperture rings and Fuji film sims are the main difference makers. Still, nice to have a retro full frame option that isn't a Leica

[@craftedpixel]

The problem is that the micro sd slot does not work for video

[@robert_may]

That 40mm f/2 is a bargain of a lens. One of my favourite lenses of recent years because it's so weirdly good for a really reasonable price.

[@rickbiessman6084]

And I suspect I might love the focal length as my always on walk around thing! I’m going back and forth between a 35 1.8 and 45 1.8 at the moment. Dang. I didn’t want any more reasons to want to switch to Nikon. :D But the Zf makes some strong arguments.

[@CianMcsweeney]

If Nikon throw an aperture ring on that I'd be sold

[@qiyuxuan9437]

​@@CianMcsweeneyalso linear focus ring, I think nikon already did firmware upgrade too all S line lenses for linear focus ring, but not yet on non S line lenses.

[@giklab]

The 28mm is even better optically. Easy recommend, if you are thinking about it.

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

@@rickbiessman6084 You can also mostly ignore the term, "color science"...

[@tombuck]

I’ll be honest, “Camera Chaperone” sounds like a sweet gig. As someone who has chaperoned many high school student trips, cameras probably get into slightly fewer shenanigans. Or maybe more? 🤔

[@chrisogonek4304]

It depends on which reviewer has it!

[@cammliu]

This was great 😂 love the dynamic between you all. It was nice having Chris there to add that extra sense of credibility, and Patrick to get the hipster approval hahaha. #PatrickElbow

[@senseofeverthing]

Actually I like having the Nikon guide at the show. He adds value since he swiftly explains the camera functions like how to tourn off the selfie mode. Smart move

[@Ed-davies]

Oh man! The Fm2n was one of my favourite cameras ever, going to have to check this out. I loved the dynamic on this video, this sort of talk show / showcase style was awesome

[@AnthonnyTag]

this was great, chris was great, patrick is awesome, he honestly should be a co host more or hop in for his take more. Absolutely love this. TV is still killing me though

[@NikonCanada]

What? 14:15 I thought we sent Chris to interview Gerald?

[@vanitymetrics2234]

Next, Nikon PLEASE develop a new "classic" full frame rangefinder camera inspired by Nikon SP, Nikon S3. Please, please. It will sale like a cake.

[@JeffGeerling]

They obviously were nervous about getting the Zf Undone.

[@impatrickt]

Think we might have to make #PatrickElbow merch.

[@VonHughesStanton]

I love the spoke person interview style of this video. It’s a Q&A with a credible guest. Love his knowledge of Nikon technical aspects.

[@PopTartHeaven]

Love this format when it’s a guest like Chris. Very entertaining to watch and so different from other camera KZbinrs!

[@luke.hutcherson]

I liked the chaperone feel, also I think that camera could be a hit. You might've been a tad too critical. Considering the target market of the camera, the buyer's probably wouldn't be too concerned with the "inconveniences or annoyances" you mentioned. I think the specs of the camera are more than generous and impressive considering it's marketed as a cute, vintage, aesthetic, every day point and shoot, vlog camera. The people who will be interested in this camera, won't need it for what it doesn't have. On the other hand, I think it would have been nice to see them dumb it down a tad and make it more affordable. At $1,500-$1,600 I think it would be more appealing. Cool to see, though.

[@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020]

1,500-1,600 is a price range for cameras with lesser specs. This ZF is basically a baby Z8 with most of the bells and whistles plus a flippy camera that will appeal to vloggers and only half the price of the Z8

[@KNAPPAID]

That would kill z6 sales

[@krazywabbit]

Loving the new format. You are smiling and laughing more.

[@buckaroobrogan]

No matter what time Gerald posts, it is the perfect time to get Undone.

[@TechMixr]

Craaaaaazy …..

[@Hobbies4Hire]

Great job on the video folks! Thanks for making it. Nice formatting!

[@tomcruz3774]

This was a lot of fun to watch. Also thanks for the closed caption subtitles. Im watching this in a busy resto and i left my headphones at home

[@mkdn]

I watched this video based solely on the personalities and the Patrick and Gerald show delivered

[@ShortFootMedia]

Really liked this format Gerald! Great video!!

[@thanhluan4342]

4:26 I like how they both silence to the MicroSD card slot 🤣

[@MichaelRelevant]

Who’s arm is in frame?

[@markwiemels]

The new set and camera angles are dialled in already. Works so well. Order that 2nd MHK50 and it’s going to be better than any of the network talk shows.

[@KNAPPAID]

Off all the comments i stumbled upon mark

[@injeolmi6]

Full frame, huh? Now that's something I'm interested in. I was looking at a Zfc a few years ago, but the crop just didn't sound convincing to me. Maybe I get a Zf!

[@injeolmi6]

We all loved Patrick's elbow, btw.

[@jannespollet4830]

I like the new set-up. Really nice vibe from everyone

[@naeemashaari]

getting interesting ! didnt expect Patrick to be in this video, but I need moreee

[@thisiskenyoung]

This new show format is interesting 12:04 but can u ask the camera man not to stand there😂

[@thidnascimento]

That was fun to watch! Love the dynamic. And that camera is good! Full specs in a vintage body. Its perfect for safety, walk around big cities without drag attention from pickpockets

[@stereoviaradio]

Nice update to the Zfc! Go Gerald!

[@RoryKnighton]

You've done such a good job with the the dry room and acoustics, that the lack of room tone makes the video a little eerie to listen to/watch. I'd add in some artificial room tone and ambiance, plus the occasional music track to cut the dead silence. Otherwise, always love your stuff Gerald.

[@CsendesMark]

Nice wholesome show 😃

[@Not_Info]

Gerald, I love this format! I'd recommend you put the guest chair on a elevated platform so that you and the guest are at the same height

[@seansims2475]

I really like this new format #PatrickElbow

[@__-lt4hm]

I see comments about the retro looks, but this is a legit retro “feeling” camera and not just for the looks as previous retro cameras were. This is a sure hit for Nikon!

[@Chhuoey]

It’s a gorgeous camera, always wanted something like this. But once I heard the full frame sensor (it’s fair to have one) and the new processor I knew I’d be expensive. $2k for body alone is a lot of film and a nice used film camera. But it’ll still probably sell well like the x100v and I doubt it’s going to feel like a bad value if you can afford it at the end of the day

[@izzwizamahjah275]

This Nikon is pretty much a fujifilm xt4

[@CartyCantDance]

They hade the Nikon zfc for you i guess

[@hellatightdude]

@@izzwizamahjah275except it’s full frame. Big difference there.

[@danielvilliers612]

How many films can you buy with let's say 1500 use?

[@hellatightdude]

@@danielvilliers612 honestly if it were me and the way I shoot, not even a year’s worth including development and scanning costs.

[@WesPerry]

Still loving the format. Hopefully it takes off for you!

[@JW-nc3zr]

I like how Gerald carries himself so gracefully and maintains a very professional production environment

[@smartideas-pedro1690]

are you a bot?

[@david_corns]

Except for the cameraman standing in front of the shot on the right hand side!

[@TechWandererYT]

It's always the same with Gerald. I click on the thumbnail for the tech, I stay for genuine laughs. Please never stop. You and Mark from Camera Crisis are, by far, the best camera tech people out there. Is it a coincidence that you're both from Canada?

[@robbie154]

As a wedding photographer honestly I’ll take a micro sd as a back up over nothing. The big downfall of the A7c lineup for pro work is the one card slot, same with the q3.

[@danielvilliers612]

Yep and it can stay permanently as an internal backup

[@chrisbrockhurst]

i feel like this is going to do very, very well.

[@shApYT]

Loving the new energy

[@ramankale8947]

Big fan of your videos! I learn a lot from you. Please do a video on Fuji XS-20 if you get a chance, no rush.

[@craigcarlson4022]

Kudos to Chris for being a good sport. I don’t care about the retro design, but i DO love that they finally put a flippy LCD on it. And not knowing how long we’ll have to wait for the Z6iii, i ordered it.

[@AndiGomez-yu2dx]

How's it been so far?

[@craigcarlson4022]

@@AndiGomez-yu2dx Andi, I had the chance to hold and use the ZF at a Nikon event. I was really put off by how one uses it. Its sort of neither a straight dial only model like a Fuji, nor a modern Nikon Z6. I really didn’t like that and i didn’t like the lack of grip and slippery finish on the body. So i cancelled my pre order and am waiting for the new models.

[@theronsan]

I wish Nikon had Aperture markings on their compact Z-mount lenses. It would make sense for this camera. I also wish this camera had a tilting screen instead of that articulating screen.

[@unclejerry486]

love the new format, great work!

[@eddiecarrasco878]

No gonna lie, this camera is stylish and very functional for both photo AND VIDEO. Excited to test out this camera.

[@Liljoozy]

They should have added 4k60 though not just 4k30

[@cristiansuciu5301]

I’m experiencing a problem with my Nikon Zf where the image on the LCD screen appears choppy or laggy, almost like it’s displaying at a low frame rate. This happens in manual mode with settings like 1/200 or 1/160, f/2.8, and ISO 1000-1600, both with and without a flash. The final photos come out fine, but the live view on the LCD is not smooth. I’ve checked the firmware, and it’s up to date. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[@KitBetts-Masters]

Gerald just became my number one reviewer. Because... zed. Well Kai also, and Gordon, they are all ok in my book.

[@kencult]

I'm excited to see a full review of this one. I'm curious to know how good the stabilization has improved. Also with 10 bit N-log internal? Seems like a solid buy. Am I missing something?

[@davidsaylors]

This was too good. Best video ever 🎉

[@ellarpc]

I wish you would do a full review on this camera.

[@drrrw]

Pure fun camera nerdy talk. I love it.

[@take5productions115]

I like the new set Gerold! Been watching your videos for years. Keep up the good work!

[@mountainhobo]

Was this camera supposed to focus on Gerald in the end? Nothing was in focus.

[@mrshaheedmalik]

That Patrick jump cut got me. 😂

[@JayaPrithiviRaj]

I definitely enjoyed watching this new video approach you got going on. 😂 Really entertaining.

[@ralvatan]

How does the Zf compare to the A7c ii as a travel camera? Which has better AF?

[@MarkD3P]

Thanks!

[@CarmenBota]

Thank you, I love this format.

[@TechMixr]

Literally the algorithm just suggested the video when you chopped off your hair a while ago and was watching this on my other account. Assuming the embargo lifted because it’s midnight lol. Love your content and the new set man! Because of you I bought 2 S5II’s from Camera Canada 😂

[@1fareast14]

Id rather have the flippy screen on the big cameras and the tilt screen on the small ones. Dual slot of some kind is nice

[@WhiteWulfe]

Chris was awesome. Looks like a nice little camera too, and one that could be a ton of fun, doubly so if it were full spectrum modified...

[@Liljoozy]

Huh

[@johnnyboy8132]

The new main shot feels like a bad spoof of the “merv griffin” Seinfeld episode

[@pcmc8461]

I dont see user presets on the dials. I hope theres a way to save preset.

[@DarkTrapStudio]

"Hi I'm Gerald Undone, and I like Patrick Elbow in my guest shot"

[@yophotodude7693]

I was originally bothered by the card slot configuration, but it should only be a problem in overflow mode. If you're doing backup then you are really just dealing with the main SD card. You should never have to pop out the Micro card, just format it after you've backed up the primary. If you do shoot RAW+JPEG and the JPEGs to the second slot, then you may need to remove it to get to the JPEGs. So for some it won't be an issue.

[@CollinShook]

This talk show is Top Tier!

[@MrAlElmes]

I want more Chris, he should be in every video. Especially non Nikon ones.

[@chrisogonek4304]

I’m not sure Gerald wants me there helping review the latest Sony or Canon’s 😂

[@Jwitherow1964]

How do we hook up a remote shutter

[@stevenwaldstein2249]

Finally found this video, thank you. I shot Nikon as a film camera and still have three of them but only one is an FM2N. Today I shoot Some Canon and a lot of Sony but this camera really interests me.Like the idea of the 40mm and hope there is a 28mm. Wonder how easy it is to adapt my AI-S lenses from F mount. Take care.

[@OnlyCitrus]

The xs20 recipe is what I am looking forward to now. A gen old sensor coupled with a current gen processor.

[@steveschnetzler5471]

I like this format, not as rigorous, but more fun. Thanks.

[@ShawnPBruce]

I’m sold on this camera. Will definitely pick one up at some point.

[@cyanidex]

10:58 ... missed an opportunity to say "Alright... I'm done." 😅

[@cinematools]

I wonder what's the base ISO to enable N-Log. I hope it's lower than 800

[@geraldundone]

Pretty sure it was 800, yeah.

[@cinematools]

@@geraldundone thanks for clarifying. I was hoping it would be lower

[@StreetsOfVancouverChannel]

I'm more excited about that **GORGEOUS NEW LENS** than I am the camera! ;)

[@stickgarrote8582]

The box at the beginning with both latches open was stressful. Made me happy when Chris closed one of them 😂 That one latch rule has been a life saver so many times. Love the fully articulating screen but the poor grip and bottom card slots rule this out for me.

[@luisdiegosalas]

Well played! Having a chaperone interview, very clever! Very interesting camera. The only thing that got me extremely distracted was someone's elbow to the right.

[@d2mini]

No one is talking about how this is a Fuji XT killer, even the Xt5 with higher mp. I prefer the lower mp for reduced noise and smaller files, and this is full frame anyway, which honestly was always my gripe with Fuji. I have the Z6ii but I will definitely be replacing it with this when its time for a new body.

[@matt88169]

Ima Fuji XT user and I wouldn’t touch this with a 40 foot pole. It is a sweet camera however, which will also have no lens support and terrible ergos for Nikon’s big glass.

[@nolannatashaTV]

That was a fun format. I watched even though I could never justify buying that camera. Love the combo of you and Patrick.

[@joemonteithcinematography7477]

Gerald, you should ask Nikon about implementing gyro-data recording. Since this camera along with many others (including the original Z6) has built-in electronic stabilization, I assume the camera has a gyro sensor. If Nikon simply gave us a way to log this gyro data, we could use it in Gyroflow for gyro-stabilization. Even if Nikon didn't develop their own stabilization software, just being able to capture this data would be absolutely amazing.

[@WhatIFeelLike]

The only reason I liked the chaperone idea cause it made this videos dynamic super fun! I could care less about this camera personally but I enjoyed the video!

[@ldmndz4652]

This is still a cool camera to consider..was waiting for this..definitely got the looks..considering this or the Fuji XT-5 as my EDC camera..haha

[@KNAPPAID]

Youd get away better with the xt5 since its marginally lighter and the crop allows for some short tele with small prime. But if a bit of weight is fine , the zf wins 100%.

[@ldmndz4652]

@@KNAPPAID yeah the whole "weight" debate for some people makes a "difference" on their decision..but for me I don't really care haha if the camera is good..so what if it weighs like 100 grams more or whatever as an example..haha cameras back then were built like tanks to begin with metal construction and the lenses as well..thats why you still find them now and are even expensive for a film camera..haha

[@KNAPPAID]

@@ldmndz4652 i get it , id also daily carry any combo aside from 70200 and any tele zooms. Personally i carry an a6400 with the sig30 even when im 90% sure that im not gonna take any pics

[@luke.hutcherson]

I think if Canon came out with a "Canon AE-1" replica/inspired mirrorless camera with similar specs I would buy it in a heartbeat. I'd like to see a consumer and pro version of it. One with more consumer grade specs and one that's pretty beefed up. Canon AE-XP and Canon AE-X ("X" represents the "crossover" that has taken place, and the "P" stands for 'Popular', in the Japanese sense of meaning 'for everybody'.one that's pretty beefed up) It would be nice for it to have a similar heavy, metal, tactile experience with similar physical dials.

[@Jviotr]

This camera in a Z6 body as a Z6III would have been fine with me at $2000. I know a lot of people want the new Sony 33mp sensor in the Z6III, but that sensor has a slower readout which may be worse for video.

[@KNAPPAID]

Theres a chance that might pop up on mk3 , but with the same a7iv spec

[@jay_elias__]

Man, if I had the money I'd buy it right now fr.

[@Flamamacue]

This is almost exactly everything I hoped they'd do with the Z8. 10-bit internal video, full flip screen, better AF, faster processor in the Expeed 7 & half the price the Z8 actually was. 12-bit RAW video and all is cool but the Z9 already had it & the file sizes are impractical for a lot of shooting, I'd like something not quite so overkill in a smaller body at half the price without going all the way down to 8-bit video in 2023. Also a note to Nikon, it's beyond time to release the "Filmmaker upgrade" for free as a downloadable FW update. Your competition is killing you in that space, I shouldn't need to give you more money and part with the camera for a week just to make it almost as good as the competition's camera come as stock.

[@fnotcool]

kinda like this having a guest format. would be sick to utilize it more often now since the set kind of caters to it with that wider shot.

[@LarsSteenhoff]

Hope it can do trap focus for older AFD lenses / Zeiss zf.2 lenses. This means the shutter releases only when the shot is in focus. ( even with a manual lens )

[@63MacGuy]

I loved the interview

[@ryancampbell1151]

Is the 10-bit 4:2:2 or 4:2:0?

[@johannes.scharf]

2:56 When you turned the camera around, so the display showed off the first time, I originally was like „Hang on, this is a digital camera?“ It has great similarities with my analog Praktika…

[@SalarMahdavi]

I wish every camera review video in this channel was with someone from company.

[@ActdeskSG]

When will Nikon ever drop the 16-bit RAW before its too late?

[@craigcarlson4022]

Will they give us one of the T-shirt’s Chris is wearing if we buy one? ;-) All things equal, if Nikon had released the Z6iii at the same time I’d probably opt for that. But i DO love the flippy screen. And we’ll likely having to wait a long time for the Z6iii, and needing a FF replacement, I’ve placed a pre-order for this.

[@karlbratby4349]

Its okay to make a nice retro-inspired camera but when you have to put modern Z series lenses it kind of misses the point, or are we going to get those at a later date. If it had a joystick I would buy the beast for sure. missed something there I think.