Which one of These Games Looks Next-Gen

[@NikTek]

Games are evolving…Just backwards

[@nokodoko2490]

Just backwards

[@makskrol9565]

more like devolving

[@KREUZGRAD]

I Nate higgers

[@eduardmandrescu7866]

Backwards

[@dwaynecanton6649]

It is because people are becoming lazier. They are not creating games so that people can enjoy them. They are creating games for cash grabs.

[@mashiatrahman9853]

Batman Arkham knight was truly a work of art considering that it was released almost a decade ago.

[@Bruce_Black]

The graphics in this game and ac unity is way superior than 90% of todays AAA games

[@Miskamandariini]

I dont even like superheroes but its incredible

[@fpshooterful]

I think i am going to play it again, especially after seeing this video. I remember playing this game again a couple of years ago, and was just amazed how the graphic still looks amazing, and even the physics compared to the current titles.

[@s3_ember]

the game was made on unreal engine 3 which is CRAZY to think about

[@s3_ember]

the game was made on unreal engine 3 which is CRAZY to think about

[@tjchana8634]

Sharks can fly, but Sharks can't swim 💀💀

[@ranwod]

😂😂😂

[@NikTek]

Wierd after 8 years of development, they couldn’t add a swimming animation to King Shark

[@dead_riko]

Ever heard of sharknado?)

[@VGBriteOG]

There no reason at all to swim in the fucking game you panzis

[@everrunic8375]

It’s a “flying shark”. Apparently you don’t have any of those from where you’re from? 😤

[@Manjawline]

Rocksteady in 2015 made an 8th gen game that could pass off as a 9th gen game. WB Montreal in 2022 and Rocksteady in 2024 makes 9th gen games that could pass off as 7th gen and 8th gen

[@MannoloGamer]

They've made an 8th gen game that could pass as a 9th gen game, with a 7th gen engine, think about that... I don't know what is going on with this industry.

[@ianmoritzplatapino3684]

Man they could pass as a 6th gen

[@dhruvmeena96]

I think WB montreal did better job than rocksteady 2024

[@TheMaskedWarrior92]

@@dhruvmeena96definitely, not only technical wise

[@TheSilentCheetah]

A lot of the talented people who made the Arkham games great rotated out of the company long ago. Doesn't help that WB forced live service elements into SS. It was doomed from the start. This isn't the same Rocksteady we knew in 2015.

[@ShundoRaud]

What a time to be alive. We have insanely powerful PCs and consoles and game devs are spending record numbers and time developing video games, but they're getting outclassed in every way by games from previous generations

[@Crimsongz]

Especially when you can play these older games at 4K+

[@rocioquiroz11]

Funny you say that because Arkham Knight was delisted on PC for being unplayable.

[@Baneslayer]

This is exactly why I'm still gaming on my PS3 and PS4 Pro… I refuse to buy the new hardware now, there's too many amazing games out for the other consoles, and I own all of them going back to Atari

[@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_]

Diversity hiring 😂

[@tyson-peak15]

@@rocioquiroz11That’s a stereotype though. It was only unplayable at release. They fixed it

[@kidink-_3782]

Batman Arkham knight graphics aged like fine wine

[@hopefullyanonymous3466]

I know dude, the water alone is crispy and just phenomenal looking

[@CptMagnus]

Arkham Knight itself aged like fine wine. It was really terrible on release (at least on PC). The only gripe I have about the game are the overusage of Batmobil-Fights and that the reveal of AK identity kinda fell short. Oh yeah.. and the need to 100% the "riddles" of the Riddler. I hated those. (but I hate them in all Arkham games)

[@kidink-_3782]

@@hopefullyanonymous3466 exaclty

[@kidink-_3782]

@@CptMagnus yea that’s true it was lit tho

[@Darwin-sd1gt]

meanwhile Gotham Knights and SS:KJTL are aging like _milk_

[@perseus31]

Its truly unbelievable. Even the requirements of Arkham Knight is so low it makes me think other games are just a scam for us to buy newer GPU's. I wish that Rocksteady will change back many things in terms of management and quality.

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

Rocksteady is dead. They're ESG compliant and the woke mind virus has infected the company. The founders already left the company a long time ago. Studios don't make games, people make games.

[@dave7244]

It is low today but back in 2015 it was a extremely high on PC. Even a 9 series card couldn't run it well. So people were probably saying the same back then.

[@5gvaccinator343]

Newer games clearly have more polygons and dynamic lighting. Also, water is simulated. But looks aay worse. Imo, without proper art director with clear vision and some talented artists, games look meh. No matter how many polygons you put in. Ps, it wasn't low back in the day. I've had gtx970, and i remember it lagging a lot. Maybe they've fixed the game with patches. Wonder how it'll run on 2015 hardware.

[@tobcyxob]

I think, none of people who made original Arkham trilogy are working in Rockteady anymore.

[@jack_da_ripp3r]

Theory: Maybe the GPU companies such as Nvidia AMD are paying devs a small portion to add their latest gpus as the requirements and even going as far as tweaking the game for that specific gpu or closer to the specific gpu in order to force us gamers to buy the newer models

[@gamingjunkie707]

Remember Arkham Knight was made in unreal engine 3.

[@gIyph_]

Imagining this game in UE5 is just torture tbh

[@dum5247]

A LIMITED version of UE3

[@Cosmicmorales]

facts

[@adrir-u2l]

yeah, if I'm not wrong, a custom version of unreal engine with characteristics of unreal engine 4 but still a wonderful creation

[@heroninja1125]

This reminds me of how Crysis 3 was made in an engine that most developers would never even bother with. But despite being from 2013 it looks better then a lot of brand new games on engines far more advanced

[@BenjaMan64]

One good thing about S. Squad is that it's making people appreciate Arkham Knight more.

[@pepekovallin]

And ironically the way they treated batman's death made people realize that Gotham knights actually had a lot of respect for batman, the game never mocks batman and the characters miss him, unlike other recent DC media that apparently hates batman and treats him like a psychotic maniac, like titans and Batwoman

[@BenjaMan64]

@pepekovallin Yes, Gotham Knights is also getting more respect and appreciation nowadays. Awesome.

[@Tribrid-zv3nq]

​@@pepekovallin Batman is psychotic though😂

[@daneionblake3939]

@@pepekovallinbruh the stories being told from the perspective of villains of course they hate Batman 💀

[@LukeLane1984]

The Steam Statistics actually showed a massive increase in people playing Arkham Knight shortly after Shit Squad was released 😂

[@pahasaradias]

1:56 that water effects in the edges of cape is super awesome

[@FTWSamFisher]

Arkham games = feel like batman SS = Fortnite with harley quinn skin

[@TheBloopers30]

At least you don't hear annoying quips and "jokes" 24/7 in Fortnite.

[@sourlab]

​@@TheBloopers30same like wtf was that 1:18

[@Sacrifeast]

@@sourlabI beat the game and did not hear that once 😭

[@sourlab]

@@Sacrifeast for me the same dialogue repeated like twice each mission I guess it depends on luck or sth

[@Sacrifeast]

@@sourlab nah cause what was she saying 😭 sounded goofy asl

[@yochintohere]

That splash of water when Batman opens his cape is enough for me at 1:57 . Literally means that they put hard work

[@vanshgarg5514]

If I remember correctly, it took a single person and entire year to figure out just the cape physics and interactions for arkham knight, and that year of works really shows

[@rsmith8113]

It’s insane, these new devs just cry “how hard and expensive everything is”. Maybe if they were not just sitting their asses in Starbucks virtue signaling we would get quality games like Arkham Knight again

[@pinacoladatv808]

@@vanshgarg5514that was Arkham asylum. Get ur facts straight next time.

[@its_dey_mate]

@@vanshgarg5514 That was for Asylum, which is even more impressive given the age of THAT game.

[@vanshgarg5514]

@@its_dey_mate yeah my bad guys, I might have the development time wrong, but I'm sure arkham knight cape's water, wind and texture interactions took a lot of time and effort too, cause it looks magnificent to this daye

[@Naz-xk6hq]

Why does Batmans footsteps in Arkham Knight sound more powerful than the gunshots in suicide squad?

[@shadowking773]

Bcoz he is batman and they're not

[@Batman-ps4om]

The audio is higher

[@CyanRooper]

"Because I'm Batman"

[@buggart]

Batman: You know why I don't use guns? Because my kicks and punches are more lethal.

[@libertyprime1614]

They are more powerful.

[@sharsasuke01]

Ahhh... back when everyone's biggest concern was using the batmobile too often.

[@matthrew]

This video proves that polycount, as well as texture resolution isnt what matters the most. Its how you utilize them, as well how you enhance them with other effects.

[@gruntaxeman3740]

Polycount is related to... frame buffer resolution. Texture resolution is also related to.. frame buffer resolution. Well done graphics aims that single triangle size is between 10-512px except some larger planar areas. Texture resolution is enough when texture pixel size is smaller or equal than frame buffer pixel size. Frame buffer pixel size should be smaller than human eye resolution. There is actually room for upscale if screen size is small or viewing distance is high.

[@RedEverything]

Disagree about texture resolution. Modern games have far superior textures (if you have the Vram capacity)

[@50.bucks.]

L take

[@niezzayt3809]

​@@RedEverythingdo you are have stupid?

[@fbi-sama9052]

That detail when Batman's cape tenses and the moisture comes off. Peak.

[@mozambique_enjoyer]

No RTX-FSR-ReBAR-DLSS-AImarketing shit required btw.

[@MaggotAddict21]

​@@mozambique_enjoyer Eventually that tech will become cheaper where somebody like you that is not very financially successful will be able to try it out. Bad games aren't an excuse to be dumb and pretend like all those things you listed aren't incredible software enhancements. You'll be able to afford it eventually, just be patient.

[@einholzstuhl252]

1:56

[@Schneez]

Real. The rain made the effect on the cape even better.

[@thenishon4148]

​@@MaggotAddict21mediocre

[@iTracksy]

i find it funny how games released almost a decade ago are so much easier to run and look really good on their own, no RT bullstuff, just pure development and design

[@timmoman]

I think whole RT is just a joke for making neighbours envious, like ”Just look at all these reflective surfaces - that’s the power of PS5/XBX for you!!” Even though in reality only 5% reflections are RT and even if those are on, performance plummets drastically!

[@fatnerd9985]

@@timmoman rt makes it easier on developers and is the "true" way to light up the world, the traditional methods mainly rely on basically painting static shadows painstakingly throughout the world which yes are easier to run by a long shot, but they aren't actual shadows and devs can't account for every single ray cast and recreate it perfectly, basically we've been faking shadows. Ray tracing however mimics real light pathing and makesthe job much much quicker. While in really well made games the visual difference is a bit negligible, real ray tracing is easier on developers and a slightly better result for players. The tech will catch up eventually and we'll be happier to have it than not.

[@_spineless]

@CrystalD77the 40 series of Nvidia cards can already handle ray tracing pretty handily, which means that it could become a viable standard in the near future. It’s come a long way since 2018. Even so, path tracing seems to be the REAL next frontier... we’re not gonna get a card lineup that can handle THAT well for at least 3 or 4 more generations though lol

[@vishnu7197]

@@fatnerd9985 ray tracing was already there but the hardware wasnt enough to keep up with that so the developers got very good with drawing shadows through rasterization that it looks better than current raytracing shadows but raytracing is in it's 3rd gen only, it will improve rapidly.

[@generalbelisarius8103]

Modern devs forgot what makes old games still look good today: A unique art style.

[@starboyjedi13]

The graphics on Batman's cape alone are better than the other titles.😂

[@oo--7714]

Nah the cape is just wet.

[@starboyjedi13]

@@oo--7714 Wet Cape Graphics -> SSKTJL graphics

[@C1Nuke]

@@oo--7714 3:49 Wet, you say?😃

[@apersonthatyoullneverknow8266]

The world is so empty is both the newer ones. Even the ocean is full of life in Batman Arkham. Noise is a beautiful thing

[@Ganjalf_the_Green]

3:50 the water spilling from the wings☠️ buddies made a goddam piece of art

[@camdonisbatman]

wings is crazy but fr

[@hopefullyanonymous3466]

@@camdonisbatman💀

[@Boba_fetts]

​@@camdonisbatmancrazy? I was crazy once.

[@GamesmediaTamil]

I think Batman Arkham Knight is a Gem 💎 Both in Graphics and Gameplay❤

[@nickochioneantony9288]

Maybe you should remember how Arkham Knight failed to optimize the game on launch. It was pretty bad back then, comparable to Jedi Survivor. So you could've said that Arkham was contributing to the trend of unfinished product. And surprisingly, hailed as a Gem almost a decade later.

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

​@@nickochioneantony9288 this is false. The game was great on the consoles for which it was intended. It was the PC port that wasn't great.

[@LuvShiramine]

combat is redundant in every way, graphics look like a Claymation, and runs like sh it

[@marcelosoares7148]

​@@nickochioneantony9288Jedi Survivor still wins because it was bad even on consoles.

[@shadowking773]

​@@LuvShiramineL take

[@DGISALWAYS]

I want people to also focus that not only is the graphics being downgraded but the audio design as well which seems to be trend in games.

[@Andyman269]

If you look at everything in the world right now, everything is being gradually downgraded, movies, TV shows, games, the music we listen to the quality of food, they're trying to normalize inferior products for the future. It's all outlined in the WEFs agenda you'll own nothing and be happy, everything will be free but inferior and people will basically be servants who stay at home fat and lazy , no more farmers all our food will be grown in a lab and modified. They're already starting to go after farmers which is why they're fighting back

[@TheShicksinator]

​@@Andyman269there's no grand conspiracy like you're alleging, it's just capitalism doing what it's always done

[@therookie5714]

@@Andyman269facts

[@Andyman269]

​@@therookie5714 yep

[@Andyman269]

@Flickem5 oh it definitely looks better, they put no effort into the details that actually matter with these newer games and the colors feel very flat and washed out

[@R3TR0J4N]

Not just detail but also the atmosphere, i love how Batman franchise answers the question "what if Gotham is real".

[@rocksfire4390]

more like what if it's always raining and night time in Gotham.

[@buffsniper]

It's always shitty in Gotham

[@newuser689]

@@rocksfire4390why would Batman come out during day huh

[@rocksfire4390]

@@newuser689 just saying the game looks good because it's always raining and night time. turn off the rain, make it day time and it wont look as good.

[@rocksfire4390]

@@RealMatter200 it's always night time? uhhhh.....

[@xn--b81a]

What i realized about recent games is most of them too focused on making everything detailed with gigantic 8k texture but left the overall environment completely bland. And often let DLSS do the heavy lifting instead of actually optimizing the game. Older game often focused on overall vibes of the environment to kinda hide the lowres texture and lowpoly models. And this is overall looks better since we don't play games 10 cm right in front of monitor anyway.

[@emanueldg]

It's not about graphics quality, its about art direction and passion for the project

[@Rexter2k]

It’s worth emphasizing that the Batman game is running on UE3 no less, which was showing its age in 2015.

[@godzillazfriction]

a modified UE3 which is for the better if the devs know what they're doing...

[@100_funsshatta]

​@@godzillazfrictionbro ... It's time to move on lmao

[@godzillazfriction]

i just realised how tf was UE3 showing it's 'age' for Batman Arkham Knight...

[@Rexter2k]

@@godzillazfriction Because UE3 was around 10 years old at that point and UE4 was released officially in 2014. Thats just UE, competing engines was also getting far more advanced than UE3. Thats why I made that comment.

[@godzillazfriction]

@@Rexter2k doesn't mean that it was 'showing its age'

[@justsaiyan3346]

None of these new characters can replace Batman. And none of these new games can replace the Arkham series as well.

[@marendir0]

They only can steal already created gameplay features.

[@knockdownbow8976]

An arkham game about nightwing in bludhaven would be amazing. Or batman beyond

[@shadowking773]

​@@knockdownbow8976red hood

[@justsaiyan3346]

@@marendir0 Bro, the gameplay in the suicide squad is sh*t. You literally shoot superman till he dies, same goes for all other enemies, and too much crap on HUD feels like you are playing the game on heavy narcotics. Gotham nights was okay but not good.

[@Batman-ps4om]

​@@justsaiyan3346Bad take.

[@acemaxximus7175]

The video game industry is slowly becoming like the film industry

[@icecreamvendor8245]

It's pretty much already there, man. AAA entertainment's been going down the drain since 2013. We've had some outliers here and there that have given me hope, but most of it's been so, so bad.

[@danielvanhuizen1253]

Capitalism sucking the life out of everything that once had some passion behind it

[@hopefullyanonymous3466]

Idk Spider-Man 2 looks beautiful. There’s hope yet. DC is completely in the shitter tho

[@seandecool6958]

@@hopefullyanonymous3466 I honestly really enjoyed the game it is GOATED and I never understand the hate behind it

[@hopefullyanonymous3466]

@@seandecool6958 i agree. I only have minor issues with it

[@jstandhh]

This shows that we LOST TALENTED ARTISTS in creative industries

[@hubris04]

Batman Arkham knight is not just a game but pure Art .

[@RazvanRZV55]

That's how it is here you are very right bro

[@raysure1345]

Yes. I love it

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Definitely not the one released in 2024.

[@destroyermcw626]

How? And it’s 60fps on Console to

[@Nobleman23]

@@destroyermcw626How? Literally one look at Arkham Knight proves its superior textures, lighting, water effects. Arkham Knight is an UE3 game and look how much better it still looks.

[@destroyermcw626]

@@Nobleman23 Hey I wasn’t trying to do no Comparisons just was wondering is all and I can use Auto HDR or Dolby vision on Arkham Knight anyway on Series X

[@thesenate7710]

@@Nobleman23 Arkham knight is beautiful but don’t let the dark lighting and rain fool you into thinking it actually has better textures and such

[@thesenate7710]

Gotham knights looks terrible, suicide squad looks pretty damn great, one comparison with the facial animations and characters models with Arkham knight shoes it’s superiority

[@kirtan3015]

1:57 That detail of cape Alone is greater than whole sskjl

[@Notevenallowedtoburnwood]

I am currently replaying Arkham Knight. I keep repeating to myself "this is ridiculous" when looking around. Especially conscidering the interactive/destructable environments/objects. Everything just looks stunning. There is also no pop in for models or even textures which is increadible when you conscider how far you can spot something in the distance and glide to while constantly looking at it. All of this and i'm running it on an old, extremely used Xbox one. The visuals, in every single way, are just amazing.

[@jadenpokemon8952]

Arkham knight is probably the best overall looking game I’ve played, the level of detail and complexity in every single environment is astounding. Goes to show that attention to detail and care goes much further than the amount of polygons.

[@svijj_]

I still can't get over the fact how water looks in Arkham Knight. So damn majestic!

[@Batman-ps4om]

In Suicide Squad the water looks way better.

[@svijj_]

@@Batman-ps4om Perhaps much more realistic, yes. In Arkham Knight it looks very stormy and chaotic. That's what makes it great for me personally

[@miguelangeljaja4293]

Even in Gotham Knights the water looks so much better than Suicide Squad. The water looks like Jelly in there with that weird texture animation.

[@applehazeva2739]

Like in every animated thing with gotham in it. The weather is always shitty ​@@svijj_

[@hunk71200]

Nope nu uh bad tested ​@@Batman-ps4om

[@divine573]

Its insane how these games look better the older they are it literally goes like arkham knight > gotham knight > suicide squad

[@Veekron]

Arkham Knight aged like a fine wine

[@thameezgamer6332]

Same goes for every PS4 games>>PS5 games

[@butterstotch3233]

Gotham knights is definitely not better looking the Suicide Squad. Say what you will about the story and gameplay, but the technical performance from facial animations to Its frame rate for its massive map is very impressive.

[@Zarkos13650]

lol no, it's 100% arkham knight on top, but everything on gotham knight looks awkard if suicide squad is not perfect in some ways it's above the trash that is gotham knight

[@Sligili]

Now they hire kids that just barely know how to use the built in unreal effects instead of veteran graphics designers

[@sothbiss]

Arkham Knight is a masterpiece. Still remember the 2014 E3 demo and how my jaw dropped admiring the graphics and the gameplay, plus the little "glitch" at the end. It was brilliant.

[@TheUnknown-vg1zx]

Same thing is happening with movies too. It's like we were gradually improving from the 90s to the 00s and we peaked 2005-2012. After 2012 we hit a plateau and maintained it until 2018-2020 or so. After that everything's been going downhill at a steep decline.

[@blaster5800]

1:55 Damn. That single clip alone is already enough to humiliate and destroy the other two games.

[@sundip8849]

And min GPU requirements Batman : gtx 660 Suicide squad : gtx 1070 RIP optimization.

[@zdspider6778]

Those are the *_minimum_* specs. The recommended specs are *GTX 760* (no "RTX") for AK and *RTX 2080* for SS. They jumped from the 60-class to *70-class* and *80-class,* while somehow looking worse.

[@Funnky]

Suicide Squad min. req. says GTX 1070 but that's for Native 1080p High 60 FPS from what I have seen.

[@FuNBOoLa]

Devs are getting lazy and lazier these days

[@zdspider6778]

​ @Funnky No, I found the "official" image they posted. The GTX 1070 is for 1080p 30 fps *low settings.* And GTX 2080 is "recommended" for 1440p 60 fps *MEDIUM* settings. Wtf! 😂 70-class and 80-class for low and medium settings? 30 fps? When Arkham Knight runs beautifully on a laptop 1050.

[@Funnky]

@@zdspider6778 And I've tested the game and seen benchmarks dude...

[@ristopaasivirta9770]

Suicide Squad's HUD design is killing me.

[@Kalmock]

It looks like the 'Elden Ring if made by Ubisoft' meme.

[@juanme555]

I will just say....go take a look at the people who made that hud and everything will make sense.

[@adamdunne6645]

Hud design in most games is awful these days. Even windows 11 has awful hud

[@TheBloopers30]

@@adamdunne6645 Agree. Though Win11 having a shit ui is not surprising considering that Win8 and Win10 exists. Microsoft never learns when it comes to Windows.

[@soupiano]

I just now know that the rain particle will scatter the moment you glide as batman.

[@Batman-ps4om]

I have never seen that happen in Arkham Knight. I might be blind

[@Amanojaku8]

@@Batman-ps4om Might be PC only (can't say I noticed it on PS4 Pro). Having said that, it's also testament to the art design that it just flows into the game, so you may not have noticed with all the other things going on.

[@Oskar0424]

@@Batman-ps4om it only happens when you're perched on a gargoyle or standing at a spot for a bit of time and then you glide off.. which makes sense

[@shayoko6]

Just another reminder that old doesn't mean inferior

[@cracker3900]

The other ones are looking like mobile games compared to arkham knight

[@-Runo]

at 00:22 the weirdest water effect i've ever seen

[@Veekron]

It looks like jelly

[@Batman-ps4om]

During the day it looks better

[@Whocares158]

IT looks like Jell-O 😂

[@endgamer5593]

That’s pretty lazy ngl

[@ValisFan3]

It's like what happens when you make Jello, but it's not set all the way.

[@roanbrand7358]

Everything is a f*cking fortnite clone now

[@fadelrizalr1030]

ITS now all about battle pass bla...bla...bla And i don't like it

[@denisliber6740]

And all the fucking kids are the same... Them buying all the shit they are being fed is destroying gaming...

[@Batman-ps4om]

​@@fadelrizalr1030It's not. The battle passes in every game gives you no advantage in any way.

[@Psyden5757]

@@Batman-ps4om that isn't what they mean, they mean that the battlepass is the main advertised thing in a game nowadays, shoved in your face left and right game devs just depend on microtransactions nowadays

[@Batman-ps4om]

@@Psyden5757 They aren't shoved I your face unless you play Warzone. Everytime I log onto that game and try unlocking a free reward it asks if I want to buy it. On Fortnite It asks once and doesn't pop up again. But I guess I know what you mean by games like Suicide Squad where it's something you definitely want but it's locked behind a barrier that you have to pay for.

[@ladislavtrojan8765]

Crysis 1 back in 2007, that was pretty much next gen back in the day and even today looks great.

[@wallacesousuke1433]

No it doesn't

[@ladislavtrojan8765]

@@wallacesousuke1433 You most likely dont even know what crysis is, if you dont agree...

[@gameurai5701]

Man, it's been 17 years, take your rose-tinted glasses off. Even Crysis 3 looks dated today, Crysis remastered was heavily critisized for its graphics when it released. Even indie and competitive fps look better nowadays.

[@ladislavtrojan8765]

@@gameurai5701 Agreed with definition of crysis remaster. Basicly crysis 1 with worse graphics, if iam honest, i dont think crysis need any remake on its own. The only thing they could change is implement strenght and speed mod into run and bash as it is in crysis 2 and 3 where you have to use only armor and invisibility. Even tho i liked crysis 1 choice of all mods yourself more than in new ones...

[@vividthespis]

@@gameurai5701 I still think Crysis 3 looks great. even today.

[@seanbrown1768]

wait wait.. 1:54 The rain builds on his CAPE? omg I'm playing it again again

[@malcolmar]

Old is gold because the way forwards is backwards. 2015 Batman Arkham Knight for the win!

[@InfinitycgIN]

I don't think that the game companies realize that live service story games do not simply work, it is another story for fps games that need regular content updates but not story games, build a good story, get the vibe and gameplay right and you sell a lot, doesn't help when you focus on live service more than the gameplay I hope they learn their lesson

[@bonginkosimotloung4440]

The water effect from batman's suit when he takes of is breath taking

[@paulrTX]

It's not just the graphics. The gameplay and performance have also become steadily worse over the years. This is a trend that will only get worse as companies gradually replace their veteran game designers with DEI hires and hire cheap overseas studios to develop their games.

[@hare75]

The artstyle also become worse

[@someanby136]

I think you mean DIE hires

[@MS-zd2no]

Just wait for the that "next gen" game built entirely by AI. Why pay talented actual people when the game can be made on the cheap with crappy degenerative AI.

[@TheShicksinator]

Imagine seeing a problem with corporate greed and blaming diversity. Couldn't be the shit pay and horrible hours that are making veterans leave, must be gay and brown people.

[@rsmith8113]

@@MS-zd2noat this point AI will probably produce better games than these so called “devs”

[@spacemanthesplicer]

Batman Arkham knight came out like 2015 still looks like a new game

[@volkerputtmann5443]

Just look at buildings from the 1800's and then look at the new buildings we have right now, you can see the downward spiral everywhere.

[@Petrichor256]

The problem is that these days, game developers seem to think that simply having larger textures and all sorts of tiny little bits of fog and reflection and shit will automatically make a game look good. And while it certainly doesn't look *bad*, it requires a lot more processing power and doesn't look nearly as visually appealing as a game where a lot of focus is also just put into, like, art design and stylization. Such as Arkham Knight did. Arkham Knight looks great because Rocksteady used good textures and specific lighting in such a way that it delivers a real, genuine *scene* to the player. It sets up a picture and a setting that sets the mood perfectly. It's a 2015 game that looks better than current-gen games because it's not just super high resolution textures and shadows. It looks great because the scenery was well and truly *crafted* by a team. Suicide Squad and Gotham Knights don't try to deliver the same kind of visual art as Arkham Asylum through Knight did. They just ram in a bunch of high-quality textures without a thought in the world and call it a day. And such passionlessness for the art of these games can be seen in all these comparison videos. Knight has its issues story-wise, and it probably used a little too much batmobile. But it's still a blast to play, and it *looks, runs, and feels* better than SS and GK. Because despite its flaws, Rocksteady really *cared* about their Arkham series. Well... at least until SS. :(

[@caioaugusto1606]

It's the Garten of Banban art style. Just ram as many polygons into a model and it will be beautiful.

[@RedzaMalaysianCrossover]

I think videogame graphics were reaching it's peak in 2013 (Grand Theft Auto V) until 2018 (Red Dead Redemption 2). I don't know which one should we blame, lack of passion from devs or Unreal Engine 4.

[@sayansarkarz5414]

Lack of effort, obviously. Arkham Knight can look 200 times better with UE 4 or 5.

[@TheUltraMinebox]

Knowing rockstar and their reputation when it comes to gta, i think they'll peak when GTA 6 comes out. The trailer looks amazing in of itself

[@BlueLightningSky]

I know who to blame it's your rose tinted glasses. Anyone with eyes that actually plays these games can tell that games released later look better.

[@thelastpersononearth9765]

​@@BlueLightningSkyFor most games I agree. But Sucide squad and Gotham knights really looks worse than Arkham knight

[@Nae_ex]

​@@BlueLightningSky Old AAA games used manufactured lightning, while modern game development programs use Ray Tracing, which is a simulation of natural lightning.

[@cataclysm2773]

What I hate about "next gen" is that they focus too much on reflections and Ray-traycing. Whilst yes, it does look good I would still prefer overall-general fidelity and polishing the little things/small details.

[@phillominopapillon8610]

ahh yes... wet floors

[@Tk3997]

Alternate Title: Art Design matters

[@OfficerKD4-4.4]

This.

[@exosproudmamabear558]

I mean it is inferior in every aspect gameplay, character design,lighting,graphics, physics ,animations...

[@QComillion]

0:29 sounds like a playful time in a sink not like a rough ocean.

[@ivanvoloder8114]

The fact that Arkham Knight was made on older engine and still looks better then 90% of new games.

[@DontKnowDontCare6.9]

OG Rocksteady is the best. Skinwalker Rocksteady probably just used the default settings for materials for all the clothes and modifiers for wave effects.

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

The way those giant waves move so quickly is so gross.

[@czaczaczar]

@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 It looks like gelatin. Maybe these people never went out to the beach during a windy day.

[@mahirmuhammad2325]

They copy pasted the rain effects from Arkham Knight

[@DontKnowDontCare6.9]

Even the default settings for Unreal Engine's sea water effects looked better than that.

[@Lync0n]

Me : * Looks at Gotham Knights* "Perhaps I treated you too harshly"

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

No, no you did not. It might look better, but it's still dog shit.

[@knockdownbow8976]

Its fun in co-op with someone u be chill with

[@Andromeda_GALaxy48]

ah f@ck i just commented this welp i'm gonna keep it

[@madhabfr]

nah dude gotham knights sucked. ssktjl has a better built in co op and MUCH better traversal/gameplay. I played gotham knights the gameplay was genuinely the worst feeling, looking, and was the CLUKNIEST game ive ever played

[@trashcan7594]

No please don’t start this, there are already enough 6/10 games that get called masterpieces years later (Assassin’s Creed Unity and most modern Pokemon games for example) Some of ya’ll need to learn that a mid game having decent qualities doesn’t make it underrated or a masterpiece by default

[@kodemasterx]

Kill the Justice League makes Gotham Knights look like GOTY material... lol

[@Batman-ps4om]

Gotham Knights was already game of the year material.

[@kodemasterx]

@@Batman-ps4om So was Superman 64...

[@Batman-ps4om]

@@kodemasterx if you say so

[@madhabfr]

nah it looks a lot better, the game looks good if its not covered by hella UI

[@Blundabus1337]

@@Batman-ps4om Only cause everything else that came out sucked.

[@rybread.64]

The fact that a game released in 2015 looks more next gen than Gotham Knights and Suicide Squad scares me

[@gwaredric2502]

The suicide squad game is going for a more cartoonishly approach while Arkham Knight is going for a dark and gritty atmosphere. Can't really compare them that well tbh

[@JACKRIDERPLAYZ]

​@PuddleBottomwell they couldn't. Arkham Knight used a custom version of Unreal Engine 3 specifically designed for them to make the game look amazing. They can't do that now

[@manuxalfhalo]

Bro I love the detail of the cape dropping the accumulate water when you start moving after a while, amazing game Arkham Knight!

[@GaseousSnake]

2015 was a great year for video games.

[@unscripted3209]

True, some of my all time faves came out that year, Witcher 3, Bloodborne, SOMA, Life is Strange, etc

[@Blonder_Studio]

2:48 wow these collisions absolutely killed me lol

[@drw_predator]

Batman Arkham Knight is truly the BATMAN in DC Gaming

[@14megasxlr]

This is what an ARTSTYLE will do for you.

[@aidenarkham]

I prefer the art direction of arkham knight but gotham in gotham knights is gorgeous with todays tech.

[@zaz6463]

3:01 Batman Doesn't Kill.... Then that civilian must be the luckiest sumbetch to have lived through that lol.

[@InvalidUser_]

To be fair its not a civilian

[@giannisksanthopoulos4300]

Michael Keaton's batman killed 142-15 people from his 2 movies

[@awsometomato1825]

I don't think it's the graphics that make Suicide Squad and GK inferior to Arkham, graphically they look fine. But it's the lack of style, or those little details that can make the environment feel more unique, no abundance of neon signs, ads, etc. Like how the moonlight shimmers on the waves. It feels like these other games just wanted to a good job, where Arkham felt like they pushed themselves to do more. I don't know how exactly to describe it but that's as close as I can get.

[@hundvd_7]

Respect for actually trying to show all three in a good light (this time) Arkham Knight speaks for itself. I can still say that both GK and especially SS look pretty good by themselves, they are just absolutely embarrassed by AK.

[@webwalkerz2048]

The one that has batman as an existing character, and is set in gothom

[@TheCampervanBuilder]

Arkham knight was just ahead of its time, still looks superb and better than most modern games.

[@fpshooterful]

I think i am going to play it again, especially after seeing this video. I remember playing this game again a couple of years ago, and was just amazed how the graphic still looks amazing, and even the physics compared to the current titles. Just crazy how some old games are about 5x better vs the current gen.

[@fluteisland]

haha I started it again too

[@SFearox]

Unreal engine 3 was way ahead of its time.

[@randomusername3587]

Man wtf is wrong with game devs these days? It feels like gaming hit a plateau and now we’re going backwards.

[@vulcan4d]

Devs forgot how to code over the COVID period.

[@pekboy2000]

Knight Arkham has always been my go to when talking about graphically beautiful games that still hold up

[@midmidnight7968]

Arkham Knight looks so majestic

[@younevertears]

Rain looks so good in Arkham Knight because it uses particle method which causes every particle of raindrops react to lights. Gta 5 uses the same method and a lot of other good games but i don't understand why cyberpunk77 doesn't use it. I mean its RT super realistic and all that but.... Splash rain effect maaan...

[@vincer7824]

True. The rain in 2077 is so bad it’s bizarre. Looks like white paint.

[@sourlab]

The same with that gta defenetive collection , those felt like moving pngs

[@zergidrom4572]

I would call a water in new one like "vomit shader" .... i think its sounds pretty close to what we see

[@Omchiwich]

These new games being built on Unreal Engine 5 while Arkham Knight was literally made on UE3 is wild

[@officialman]

As long as someone buys it, they will do it. Yes, Todd Howard?

[@rubenalvar3253]

Bethesda's last game looks better than previous

[@grantusthighs9417]

​@@rubenalvar3253true, but the gameplay is worse thanks to Todd Howard.

[@me_garib_hu6857]

honestly this also looks great 0:55

[@nakiangoderich3014]

No, it would look great if it wasn’t for its predecessor Arkham Knight looking way better and feeling like an actual city. Gotham Knights feels dull and unimpressive comparing to the other game. Especially for releasing 2022 it’s just meh when you look at Arkham Knight.

[@hopefullyanonymous3466]

@@nakiangoderich3014facts Arkham just has the vibe on point

[@gabrielalves8206]

3:55 If u fall near enough, there's a whole underwater grappling and swimming return animation

[@Devinwesto]

Arkham knight is the result of having Love for the lore and the game and the fans

[@jaydixit7112]

After looking at Arkham Knight, it feels like a disgrace to even call the other two "AAA"

[@allanlomas5133]

We were spoiled back then, we didn't knew how good we had it

[@TechPros1]

i think the art style of the arkham games is what makes them "look" better. also the devs.

[@Danielgil28893-x]

Devs are losing their skills

[@im3phirebird81]

@@Danielgil28893-x It's not that the devs are losing their skills, it's that people who are not diverse enough to say yes and amen to all the points of the new religion have gotten fired, bullied out or straight up quit.

[@Qui6Below]

@@im3phirebird81 What are you yapping about? This all has to do with publishers being greedy and wanting to min max their profits. There's an obvious push for games to be live service which is why they suck now.

[@im3phirebird81]

@@Qui6Below You know damn well what I am "yapping" about. That min maxing has been a thing for a long time now, but it surely hasn't stopped companies from releasing great games. The issue arises when it is more important what you believe in rather than what you can do. This is how the industry has lost a lot of really good people because they didn't want to put up with the new religion that is being forced onto everyone. When you have to start your own company from scratch because the fertile soil you used to work on has turned into a rotten swamp that is gonna set you back a couple of years. We might get another couple of good games to enjoy before the year 20-you will own nothing and be happy-30. Minmaxing profits surely is a factor too, I don't deny that. But when you minmax with less talent on board the results are just gonna be more disastrous.

[@kardeon4503]

Here is the difference between developers and artists.

[@angryvaultguy]

Batman Arkham Knight: " oh your hero game alright just not a super one" Gotham knights/suicide squad: "oh yeah whats the difference" Batman Arkham Knight: "presentation!"

[@yo-2029]

Spider-Man 2’s graphics are so much better than SSKTJL. Idk how rocksteady managed to mess up

[@rwwf2036]

This just highlights the importance of strong art direction over raw grpahical fidelity and draw distances.

[@semvision]

Hey if the draw distances were big that would be great on its own, but its been over two decades and we still cant let go of annoying distance fog.

[@bronyhub]

Immersive soundscapes are just as important as a solid art style and it's clear Suicide Squad has neither.

[@RyzenX12]

1:16 For the record, this is a 70$ game your looking at here. We have to do something about this.

[@sourlab]

YEA DODODODODODODODODODOOOOOOO

[@Otinashi]

It's not that it has better graphics, Arkham Knight's art direction was top notch. The game looks really good compared to even the best looking games of today, at least from afar.

[@darkwoodmovies]

It feels like game tech hasn't evolved in a decade. I guess studios only improve whenever a new GTA game comes out and pushes the boundaries.