Suunto Core vs Casio Pathfinder Part 1

[@nikudes]

Thanks, glad that you liked it. I haven't taken the watch snorkeling but the manual says that the max. depth measurement is 10 meters (32.8 ft.). I'm pretty sure it records depth logs the same way as altitude logs. I made a video of the log function. It's in the "Related Videos" box on the right. It's called "Suunto Core Review, New Band and Log Function." That'll give you a good idea of how it works.

[@nikudes]

@mecover I appreciate your service and your feedback. It sounds like I can stick by my "Suunto Core is like an Audi. Casio Pathfinder is like a Toyota" analogy.

[@nikudes]

Thanks, glad you liked the rest of the video. As far as the depth rating, I don't think I can explain it any better and I'm not an expert on the science. All I know is that every watch I've seen that's rated water resistant to 100m is only suitable for snorkeling depths. If you search for "Water Resistant Mark" on Wikipedia, you'll find an article that goes into more detail.

[@nikudes]

No worries! Glad you liked the video.

[@nikudes]

I've been wearing the Suunto all the time lately. It does everything and the interface has a lot of depth and a lot of features.

[@nikudes]

It's massive. The case is 53mm across. (The Suunto is 49mm.) It's not heavy though. It weighs just over 2-1/2 ounces. (The Suunto is just under 2-1/2 ounces.)

[@nikudes]

@i8Europe Well, I thought it was a fair comparison given the similar feature set, though I agree that they are in different leagues. I think the analogy I used was Toyota vs Audi. One's tough and basic and gets the job done. The other is sleeker, has more features, but also has its quirks. Glad you liked the video anyway.

[@nikudes]

You're right. I mention this in the comment section. For some reason I assumed it a G-Shock but it's a Pathfinder. Kind of a glaring goof.

[@spacenoodle8468]

This video is fantastic, I was tossing these two watches up and you've help me greatly.

[@nikudes]

thanks, glad to hear that it helped!

[@nikudes]

Mine says "Pathfinder" on the case but I checked on the Casio site and it is known as the Protrek in the UK.

[@matthewdeacon3357]

Thanks for the video. I have a similar Pathfinder in titanium and it's always been a great watch - got it at costco ten+ years ago and the solar works well, haven't changed the battery and I only take it out occasionally. I like the look of the Suunto too, and it seems to have a good number of addition functions compared to the Pathfinder. One detail I remarked on was that you quoted 10 bar for the water resistance (for both), which I believe is 100m/~330 feet, not 30 ft. My Pathfinder says 100m, but I believe the Core is rated at 30m/~100ft. Hope this is helpful, cheers.

[@nikudes]

Thanks for the comment. I'm a big fan of the Pathfinder as well. I'm wearing it more these days than the Suunto. Re: the 30' question. I heard somewhere that, when diving with any watch, it's good to limit oneself to about a third of the ultimate depth rating, since that rating is determined in a static (no movement) test. Real-world use and movements subject the watch to greater pressures than the static test does, hence the very conservative 33% of ultimate depth rating recommendation. In the Core's case a third of 100ft. is roughly 30'. If I'm not mistaken, that's where the watch's depth gauge maxes out as well.

[@nikudes]

My mistake, I didn't zero them correctly. Also the Suunto can calculate true north whereas the Casio only registers magnetic north.

[@ArbitraryLifestyle]

My Suunto Core simply quits working when I take it off of my wrist and the temp gets below 40F. The alarm doesn't go off, I can't read the time, altimeter is all screwed up. I've been contemplating a Casio...

[@nikudes]

Technically you're right. 10 bar is the pressure generated at about 100m of depth. A watch rated as water resistant to 10 bar or 100m is recommended only for snorkeling though, which in practical terms means about 30 ft. The reason is that as you move the watch underwater, you generate more pressure on it in much the same way that air exerts pressure on your body when you move through it on a bike. Limiting the depth to snorkeling just provides a large safety factor.

[@nikudes]

In the video I mention that it's 51mm across the case. The model is PAG40-3V.

[@homemadealcoholstove]

When a watch manufacturer says "WR 200m" it doesn't really mean it will not have water ingress at 660 feet. It's simply a sort of "classification" Generally, people say that the true WR is a bit less than 1/3 of what it says. On the other hand, if it says "DIVE 200m" it is most likely manufactured to ISO 6425 standards, so it has been pressure tested to 125% of what is marked on the watch. And keep in mind that a plastic case will be relatively hard to make WR at 200 meters...

[@radio53]

Thanks for the info'. Good camera work.

[@Max11Seven]

Really great video, thanks.

[@Hardulf]

Nice review! Suunto really needs to work on their display. The reverse is way too difficult to read. I looked at one at a store yesterday and could barely read what time it was. I have a PAG40 and love it. I'm thinking of getting a Suunto Core next, but with the positive display style.

[@jhogan89]

Yah just to let you know the Cheapest model of the Core you can find online for around 220 dollars, the most expensive all aluminum model you can find 375.

[@Halfzipp]

I dont see how that makes sense. 100m is 328ft, which is more than 10x what you are saying.. If they meant 30ft, they would say 30ft, not 328ft. Other than that, great review and video.

[@DubrowMark]

@dlegeant77 The ""OPEN" indicated means the dealer did in fact open the watch. They probable lost one or both of the contact springs that makes connectiont to the back cover. Without those the circuit is open. I doubt the dealer was an official casio dealer.

[@deregil83]

Great video, any chance you could make a comparison in between a Casio PAW 1500 and a Suunto Core?, I think that would be a nice to see, Thanks!

[@MustangFan424]

Does the pathfinder watch shown in that video have atomic timing or some crap where it adjusts itself to the correct time?

[@Halfzipp]

Yea, I missed a very key phrase. Water Resistant to 100m. Oops, hehe. Thanks again and your videos definitely helped me make the decision as to what my new watch will be. :)

[@rolotomosy82]

FYI pathfinder is not a G shock. Casio told me this over the phone. They told me the pathfinder is a little more shock resistant

[@dga223]

well done videos...

[@Amberlodge1]

What Model was the Casio you used for the review and what is the display diameter please

[@n3ur0tic881]

One thing you neglected to mention or otherwise did not know. The Core is "Designed in Finland" but MADE IN CHINA!! It says so right on the bottom. which is a huge deal.

[@StewartLucrative]

The seconds display on the pathfinder would drive me nuts. the numbers should be smaller and spaced out more. It makes reading the time confusing.

[@seabass132003]

you said 10 bar = 30 feet. actually =100 meeters. if you look at the manual it even states water resistant to 100m. (source: PADI Underwater Manual)

[@ThisNameWasntTaken]

@Halfzipp read on casios website it says there that these 100 meters are no underwatermeters

[@nikudes]

That's my mistake. I didn't calibrate the altitude before filming. The altitude reading on both watches will wander over time because of variations in barometric pressure so they need to be calibrated to be accurate. I forgot to do this. Once calibrated they're both pretty accurate though.

[@theodoresweger4948]

I checked by using sea level, using my phone and suunto core it was very accurate. Note, your altitude will very wildly due to barometric changes, if it doesn't you may have a problem, hence the expression up and down like a barometer. My suggestion reset as often as you can to either sea level or known altitude for your known location. Hope this helps..

[@Amberlodge1]

What is the face diameter on the Pathfinder as i always associate Casio with kids watches as they are so small.

[@John27346]

I'm confused. Why are you calling the Casio watch a G-shock? Isn't it a Pathfinder/Pro Trek?

[@josephcurwen6054]

i bought a casio prw 3500 could you do a comparison between that and suunto core?

[@nikudes]

I've only done videos on watches that I've bought and I haven't bought a watch in a few years which is why I haven't posted anything in a while.

[@mrjink123]

So what sites can you find the gshock for the 150 price?

[@Omegalo326]

i carry a compass with me when i hike but i am about to teach my son how to use it. i was wondering how accurate is the compass so that i can keep tabs on where he is leading us.

[@nikudes]

I haven't checked the accuracy but it's precise to 1 degree. It has to be calibrated. There is no correction in the watch for declination. Try comparing the the watch to your favorite compass. I bet it will compare favorably.

[@cameronboden]

time to light up brother. great review.

[@nikudes]

Yeah, I don't like it either. The mic is really sensitive. I'll see if I can fix this in future videos.

[@andyO4you]

thanks i know which brand i will buy now.

[@myszoskoczek0]

why there are diffrent scores: ali(casio:580 sunnto:340), compass ( on casio:139 on sunnto 200) etc on this watches

[@brianl890]

10 atm or bar is about 100 meters or 330 ft. Not bad for either.

[@i8Europe]

Nice video, however you CAN NOT compare watches that are $150-Casio and $300-Suunto. It's like comparing Huyndai Ellantra to a BMW 3 series, they are both cars and have 4 wheels and Air Con etc. Clearly in different league

[@frequencydrive]

Ya the Casio really looks a lot better. And the price is 1/2 or the Suunto. I was going to buy a Suunto Core until I saw this video. Now I'm off to buy a Casio.

[@crysisen]

you camtured this video in two days right ?

[@mahender6969]

great review

[@THETURZO]

What Reloj for Women Or Woman?

[@ravi930]

@YamatanoOrochi1 casio they are more reliable and they are like the leader in digital watches

[@drdj69]

you really need good vision if ur using the suunto, the display is just too dark,. casio is nice and clear. i would go for the casio.

[@theodoresweger4948]

Amen

[@fadidarali]

Declination is the difference between magnetic North and grid North, not true North

[@TheLkpuede]

its a G Shock. I have 5 Pathfinders and 7 G Shocks. to me, they are G Shocks on steroids.

[@LeathermanFan2]

That isn't a Casio G-Shock. All Casio G-Shocks have the name on it.

[@finaldecizion]

OMG, are you Clint Eastwood's son? You have his voice!!

[@nikudes]

Haha, that's the first time I've ever heard that but thanks.

[@zer0b0t]

Suunto compass can be confusing.

[@BX0207]

This particular Casio model is discontinued and replaced by another model..too bad..this one was nicer than the replacement.. The Suunto is just too dark...ridiculous

[@John27346]

Ok, sorry. I just read the introduction.

[@nikudes]

it took five, i think...

[@mecover]

@nikudes The Suunto will not hold up. I have had both watches. The Suunto bezel will completely wear off in contact with clothes, the bezel scratches in contact with grit in the air and the band will not support even casual use. The Casio, uglier , harder to read and not as accurate will last a lifetime. Comming from two tours of Iraq, S.A., and 6 years of missions with the Casio. Semper Fi.

[@grizzlyrunfast]

casio all day. from experience casio is more durable exponentially. Also many of casios ABC watches are solar powered and are more accurate than the Suunto

[@nikudes]

@mrjink123 Try Princeton Watches.

[@nikudes]

That one doesn't...

[@nikudes]

Huh, always wondered why I never looked like my parents. Funny...

[@ineedach81]

I love it, it relaxes me ;)

[@nicoagressor]

Count your "you know". And Casio are definitely not g-shock (as you many times say).

[@lupescarese]

casi casio casio casio casio casio casio casio casio casio tutta la vitaaaaaaaa

[@ineedach81]

hahaha 4:20 u did that on purpose right??

[@Chris_Preese]

Those kinds of Casio watches like really shitty watches from the nineties

[@ravi930]

@quiteobserver cause suunto watches may look good but they suck.

[@MandyLionRock]

I absolutely hate it when people insist on making the watcher listen to them swallowing their phlegm continuously... PLEASE learn to speak without grossing people out. I understand you like listening to yourself speak so I am begging you learn how to do it properly. So disgusting I was not even able to get the info on the videos which is a shame.

[@Doggieman1111]

nice review but your voice puts me to sleep

[@jhogan89]

Yah just to let you know the Cheapest model of the Core you can find online for around 220 dollars, the most expensive all aluminum model you can find 375.