Nintendo's 2024 Just Got WEIRD

[@ArloStuff]

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[@gamechannelminecraft6583]

Hello everyone, good viewing🐼

[@Mutantman02]

Can you lend me a dollar arlo

[@JoshTheWoz]

Omg it's the puppet man

[@derek-64]

No

[@gyrate598]

2 days ago??

[@Mr_Mimestamp]

If the Switch 2 isn’t revealed until 2025, my condolences to Arlo for having to make another Switch 2 prediction for the end-of-the-year prediction video.

[@Torvinoid]

Someone very high up saw his EOY vid and said " ah heck, one more just for old times sake"

[@masteroflag]

And won’t be out till 2026

[@jonathanwilson7949]

It’s “definitely coming in 2025” that is the YEAR

[@masteroflag]

@@BBWahoo 5DS. All the games are playable on other people’s systems and using the past levels you didn’t change how their levels go in true 5th dimensional gaming

[@PkolGaming]

He makes the switch 2 prediction every year despite saying he was gonna stop like 3 years ago 😂

[@PleasePleasePepper]

The rumor of a launch title being the reason for the delay definitely tracks. They delayed the N64 an entire year to make sure Mario 64 was ready.

[@krisc1684]

And they didn't make sure the Wii U had a great lineup at start. Even the GameCube didn't have a stellar launch list of launch titles when it comes to the general audience of gamers debating on getting a Cube or a PS2. But I imagine the Wii U launch is what's brought up in every meeting regarding new console launches, as opposed to the GameCube.

[@mistertwisty1693]

@krisc1684 The 3DS launch was terrible too, there were only a handful of games and the only first party was Nintendogs

[@kewa_design]

@@mistertwisty1693nope there was also Pilotwings (which was great, but definitely not for everyone )

[@Rancor9000]

Do we have any idea what this launch title might be? A 3D Mario maybe?

[@leeartlee915]

Not only that, look at the history of Nintendo when they don’t wait and launch prematurely. The Gamecube, the Wii U, both consoles failed because they didn’t have software ready for months. Of those two, the Wii U was much, much worse.

[@shyguypro9876]

The year is 2143. The desolate wastes ooze radiation. What's left of humanity live in small, nomadic tribes, surviving off the carcass of humans once great civilization. Rumours state the Switch 2 has been delayed to 2145.

[@MimiJaneBee]

pls stop giving Nintendo ideas 😭

[@TAT4guitar]

I NEED this movie

[@lrbag8269]

This would work as a good writing prompt

[@eonbree8593]

silksong also in that mix

[@gcomastah]

​@@eonbree8593 yeah that's a 2145 launch window title

[@thierrys85]

This is the EXACT same situation as in 2016, when EVERYONE was 100% convinced Nintendo NX would release that holiday, because no one could conceive of a scenario where it was postponed to early 2017. And then it happened anyway. 😂

[@Matanumi]

Then 2017 year... While launch was slow 2017 year was a smash hit 2025 will look to do the same

[@doctorslept]

Man I have so much nostalgia for 2017, and the Switch and it’s launch was a big part of it

[@echowhosthis]

@@Matanumilaunch was slow? It did take awhile for a lot of games to really start coming in, but i remember the switch launch being huge. it sold incredibly fast, and as a system sold very well

[@maggiecelentano9927]

Nx. God what a throwback name haha

[@Elchinodawn]

​@@echowhosthisit was kinda slow, still a success, but slower than ps4, or wii launch

[@Just_a_random_fan]

I like early in the year system releases, when they release it near the holiday then the enthusiast and the parents have to fight over the limited supply of the console and that causes scalping.

[@BubblesZap]

yeah, in all honesty I feel like the March launch worked REALLY well for Switch on keeping a year of good building momentum until the holiday instead of exploding and then crashing out the gate a bit like PS5 kinda did with it's shortage of consoles (and now shortage of exclusives)

[@Agent719]

Plus, at least in the USA, people will have gotten their tax refunds.

[@bens5859]

@@BubblesZap if you release blockbuster exclusives like BOTW and odyssey in the first months of a consoles life, it doesn't matter what time of year the console releases

[@BoxoSpoons]

I'm sure making sure they have a good supply of systems probably helped them be more willing to make the delay. Especially since one of the few things Furukawa has actually said about the new console is that they want to really make sure there aren't supply issues.

[@thediesel1241]

​@@BoxoSpoonsSupply issues pretty much killed the PS5 I guess Nintendo is smart enough to avoid that problem.

[@omega13ful]

Every year Arlo predicts getting Switch 2 it gets delayed another year

[@MungkaeX]

It’s like Half-Life 3. Every time someone starts a new rumor about it, it’s delayed again.

[@LoginJ]

Or Silksong.

[@darthmaul302]

And this is exactly why I'm just ignoring all rumors until Nintendo themselves talk about it. It's not worth getting hyped up like this when there are constant letdowns.

[@themegatonmenace1224]

I agree. People have been claiming that Switch 2 will be announced "in a few months" for nearly 2 years and then every time they're wrong they just push the prediction back by a couple months. It's annoying because clearly no one knows when it's coming and guessing every possible date doesn't prove or accomplish anything

[@MrPacoGuapo]

I love that an unannounced console got delayed

[@andrewbucket8837]

my thoughts exaclty, i dont know how this snowballed so much, they havent announced ANYTHING and people is just living with rumors...

[@jemandetwas1]

The unnanounced, unofficial rumored console without even an unofficial release date has been delayed by unofficial rumors. Very funny

[@andrewbucket8837]

@@jemandetwas1Exactly, i hate how people have become so eager for the new console when nothing official has been said and specially when the switch itself has still soooo much to offer...

[@thediesel1241]

​@@andrewbucket8837Switch has absolutely nothing to offer anymore lmao. The Hardware at that point is so terribly outdated that it hurts.

[@theakiwar9118]

@@andrewbucket8837It’s because 7 independent and highly credible sources who have direct contact with Nintendos japanese Third Party Partners said it simultaneously. It basically is confirmed at this point

[@ianchandler4649]

9:14 I cannot believe the Arlo is disappointed that the year will “only” have a Thousand Year Door remake. If you asked Arlo any other year, he would be fine if that remake was the only thing that came out in a decade.

[@fawfulthegreat64]

Yeah I don't really get that I thought that alone would make the year for him. It sure did for me. I actually want the Switch 2 to be later rather than sooner specifically to make sure TTYD is given a fair chance to sell well while still being on the current system. If it's a last-gen game on release, it's already flopped. Unless it's a simultaneous release on both systems, but the wait would be agonizing for that.

[@CocoTheMii]

@@fawfulthegreat64That's what's been really worrying me ever since the announcement, honestly. Nintendo has a bad history of releasing games under exceedingly poor circumstances, or with poor marketing, then pulling the plug when they (predictably) don't do well. If people see that Nintendo is releasing a remake of a GameCube game on a console that's actively on its way out the door, they're less likely to want to buy it. Hopefully TTYD gets enough breathing room to have a fighting chance, because I don't want to think about what might happen if they flub this.

[@Lexi-M]

@@fawfulthegreat64probably just the fact that last year was SO good. To go down to only 1 big game this year feels a little disappointing.

[@shigerumiyamoto9612]

If you ask me that depends on the game. If it was totk that released and only that then I would personally be fine due to its massive content/length but a 20h rpg defying an entre year? Hmmm

[@shigerumiyamoto9612]

I just mean like it shouldnt be an issue to want more games to come out than just TTYD remake

[@LunarcomplexMain]

it's the themes, they still gotta figure out how to get more themes than light, dark, and light invert, dark invert

[@yololthepikminenjoyer]

you know nintendo wouldn’t be that generous :)

[@adora_was_taken]

the technology just isn't there yet

[@derek-64]

Introducing plaid

[@davebob4973]

if you input a secret sseries of inputs you unlock the mario theme which is a single png of mario place ominously in the center of a white background

[@SparkyForce]

lmao

[@ohno5559]

Missing the holiday is not good, but coming out a few months later might improve the launch lineup, which could help. Launch lineup is probably more important than release timing.

[@raxxtv1998]

I mean for sure. Just look at the original switch.

[@asia_crasia]

Switch 2 release and rumor coping has been so strange to me tbh. People have been SWEARING the switch 2 was coming soon for years now but to me it's been abundantly clear that Nintendo is in absolutely no rush to get a switch 2 out. The switch has a huge install base and still has been chugging along sales wise pretty well. If I was them I would take advantage of its long legs and really make sure the next console launches in a great spot. Which is what I imagine they're doing

[@andrewg.3281]

Yeah, if they release a new console when the switch is still going strong, many won't feel the need to buy a new console yet and still just play on their switch. They need to wait for the switch to truly die down so the next system can thrive. Which is only just now starting to happen with there being no nintendo announcements in the recent direct and all.

[@Robospy1]

Everyone wants a Switch 2 because I think most people are tired of the Switch. It had outdated performance when it came out, and now its almost a joke. I mean, phones can run games that look better than Switch games. I definitely think they should take as long as they need to make sure the next console has a good release but this year really felt right for a new console.

[@tadstrange1465]

@@Robospy1 phones cannot run the Witcher 3

[@Pedroramossss]

​@@tadstrange1465 Many phones can run the Switch version of the Witcher 3, which is considerably different than the ps4 version graphic wise.

[@xenogen372]

​@@Robospy1To be completely honest, I think Nintendo should definitely take their time with a Switch 2 or just their next console in general. With how the PS5 and XSX aren't doing so hot right now, with a major lack of exclusives on both ends, Nintendo should work to have the launch of the Switch 2 be a 2017 part 2, instead of pushing it out because fans are pressed for it.

[@ILikeNerdShit]

Local man supremely impatient, goes on psychopathic rampage while talking about Kraid

[@nezuminora9528]

Is a console technically "delayed" if it was never even announced?

[@tinothetuna215]

Fac

[@captainpep3]

Im really getting tired of everybody just believing these leaks just because “trusted” sources say these things. Like seriously, why is Arlo falling for this crap again?

[@Novarcharesk]

@@captainpep3it provides something to talk about, rather than the comparatively boring ‘I don’t know, so I will say nothing’. Being restrained and patient is boring to most.

[@jemandetwas1]

​@@NovarchareskYeah, he's gotta pay the bills somehow

[@captainpep3]

@@Novarcharesk I guess, I but I’m tired of all these KZbinrs glorifying leakers and giving them attention. Leakers bring nothing of value to the internet when 98% of them are fake, and the ones that ARE true just spoil things, where’s the fun in that? I don’t mind speculation/prediction/hopes, but when talking about “credible” leakers, it just puts a bad taste in my mouth

[@MainlineThruTheRockies]

The only thing that has my doubts is that we still have heard nothing from Nintendo themselves. We knew about the Switch a year+ in advance due to Nintendo officially saying “hey we’ve got the NX here, it’s coming, more details in 2016”. The fact we haven’t heard anything about any kind of switch successor directly from Nintendo is a bit odd considering, if we are just a year away, they would’ve said something by now. Although, you can make the argument that they don’t want to announce anything official to not hurt the Switch’s still very good sales, they might be gunning for that #1 best selling console of all time, which I think they can get.

[@MrVideoGameDude]

Yes it's definitely so they don't hurt sales. Wii U was tanking so unbelievably hard they needed attention off of that machine as soon as possible. Versus now they are still selling so many switches they want to keep the spotlight shining as long as possible.

[@brandonquist8394]

@@MrVideoGameDude Precisely, in business, you don't want to draw attention away from a viable product, even if its had a long run already. Granted, they're probably more worried about software sales than hardware, seeing as they've got several games coming that need to do well, which would be hard if we all started waiting to buy them on the Switch 2.

[@kargaroc386]

good old osborne effect

[@TheAugoosetus]

Different circumstances. With the Switch, they needed to build hype for the Switch 2 for as long as possible because the Wii U was an utter failure and most people had dismissed Nintendo. Now? Everyone’s already hyped for the Switch. They don’t need to take time to promote it. On top of that, the Switch 2’s announcement will tank the sales for the Switch- most people aren’t going to buy a Switch when the Switch 2 is around the corner.

[@FedoraKirb]

Tbf, the NX was teased the same meeting they revealed they would start making mobile games. I obviously can’t speak for Nintendo, but they probably just threw in the NX there so investors didn’t think Nintendo was going full mobile and abandoning consoles entirely.

[@NintendoTherapyPodcast]

I know everyone loves to jump to this conclusion, but I remember an interview when Nintendo specifically said they save projects like wind Waker HD for when they have unexpected delays that put a hole in their calendar. So I think we can hope for that now!

[@Frozen_Death_Knight]

Well, considering that Nintendo basically have no competition from Sony and Microsoft thanks to how disastrous the Playstation 5 and XBox Series X news has been lately, Nintendo are now in the position to be able to delay whatever they have on the backburner for the Switch 2. Also, the Switch originally launched early 2017. What really made the console such a success was its launch lineup and incredibly strong 1st and 3rd party support for the rest of the year, which was maintained throughout most of its lifespan. Launching Switch 2 without something that can rival Breath of the Wild and an incredibly solid release schedule for its first year would be foolish. Especially after Sony and Microsoft botched their console releases and had an extremely poor lineup of games released, either lacking quality or quantity or both. So yeah, sucks if it's true, but Nintendo have no reason to rush. They already hold all the cards. They just need to not misplay their hand.

[@Cynim]

Doesn’t anybody remember back in 2016, the NX days, when everybody and their mothers were expecting a E3 reveal and a Xmas release? Well, Nintendo deemed necessary to place the release in March 2017. People, just sit back, relax, enjoy your backlog, browse through existing games on the eShop (they are aplenty) and wait for Nintendo to make an official announcement, whenever that is. Just enjoy the moment, stop projecting into the future! You’re only harming yourselves…

[@andreasmacarthur5250]

I think it is good and probably even intentional to miss the holiday release-window. If the console is a straight successor instead of some "experimental new concept"-console and will launch with at least one really big title like the Odyssey sequel ,Switch 2 will completely sell out immediately with "normal" demand. I doubt Nintendo could even come close to meet the demand of an holiday launch, so why bother? Sell more Switches, sell some big holiday game and launch in the new year like last time. Even if there are other reasons, I think it will benefit both Switch (hopefully getting a great swansong-game) and make the launch easier to handle for Nintendo and consumers who won't have to compete with almost all parents of the country whose kids will put the Switch 2 on top of the wish list.

[@chuckbatman5]

Yeah if things aren't 100% perfect and ready for a holiday launch it will hurt the system more than a delay to March would. And if they were able to ride the holiday 2016 wave with a FAR less successful console than the Switch, they can certainly handle it now

[@OurHeroXero]

Butternut Squash? Yes Please!

[@matthewstephens8503]

Arlo hasn't said that in a while. Glad someone remembered.

[@Mir_Teiwaz]

But solid snake tho

[@bepis0_0]

A man of culture

[@ryanhernandez1877]

What???

[@thajocoth]

I have SO MANY games to play right now, that I really don't mind this sort of "delay" (though it's not really a delay if it was never announced to begin with).

[@MrMultiPat]

This is my least favorite part of gaming culture on KZbin. Whenever a new console will / might come out, the whole discussion turns into "When will it come out?! How many terraflops will it have?" I couldn't care less about speculating for years before the release.

[@FarekWad]

One brightside, 2024 may finally be the year of a new Tomadachi Life game

[@neon1608]

It would both be hilarious and painfully on-brand for them to finally release a new Tomodachi life and then immediately kill it by releasing a new console

[@maxpowers6738]

@@neon1608Or they release a Tomodachi Life sequel and replace the Miis with those avatars from Switch Sports.

[@chuckbatman5]

​@@maxpowers6738 don't you dare will that into existence

[@DanGamingFan2406]

It's going to be a slow year for Nintendo with the Switch 2 postponed. But if it's because the big lauch title was delayed as the rumors say, than I'm willing to wait while it gets the extra time it needs. And I'll be excited for the new system whenever it launches.

[@watershipup7101]

Best to let them cook than to rush them.

[@ryanhernandez1877]

Okay, buy SMT V: Vengeance while you wait I guess

[@echowhosthis]

i personally never believed the switch 2 would come out 2024? i doubt it was delayed and to me it never really made sense that it’d be a holiday system, and i dont think it was ever even planned for it either. because even with all of the rumours and everything in mind, does a q1 console launch _really_ mean slower sales overall? while its a precedent for consoles to release near the holidays, my take is that nintendo sees q1 as better for overall sale numbers (especially after how well it worked out for the switch.) i don’t think there’s enough numbers to make a definitive argument out of that, but at least logistically in my head and from what we saw with the switch, a q1 launch allows for the system to actually build a reputation, library, and just establish itself in general to build up into a bigger and better holiday season. having a bigger library available during the holidays instead of exclusively launch titles just seems like it naturally correlates to more sales. and it just means more people would know of the thing in general, especially parents. idk, im not an analyst or good at business stuff so this could just be a load of nonsense but my perspective this is what I’ve always seen happening

[@WaterKirby1994]

Also Nintendo still has a few important games coming to Switch this year & After Switch would likely negatively effect them. I never really believed it would come out in 2024 either. 2025 always seemed the most likely year for Nintendo's Next Console to arrive for reasons much like you have given. The Super Mario Bros 40th Anniversary Game being an early release for whatever Nintendo is making is just too likely.

[@ledojaeger7474]

Whenever they do properly announce a new console, I hope that it's not just a Twitter drop and that they make a big deal out of its reveal and build some hype. A repeat of the whole January 2017 stage show would be super cool - It should make a noticeable impact, and avoid the fumbling and bumbling of the Wii U reveal.

[@WhyYouWahYoo]

I’ve seen a good amount of people being like “haha silly gamers got excited over a thing that was never officially announced and now are disappointed over that nonexistent thing getting delayed even though it was never officially announced.” And, like, fair enough, but I don’t get why they think it’s so outrageous to believe reports from historically reputable sources. Where there’s smoke, there’s often fire.

[@Scott...]

The people going “haha you’re disappointed at something that was never promised” are probably the same people getting angry at Mother 3 not being localised again lol

[@hododod246]

On 2021 e3 season, those "historically reputable sources" said that "Nintendo will announce Switch Pro a week before e3 because in e3 presentantion, they are gonna show some games that are taking advantage of dlss." I don't think this happened. Also that dlss powered switch pro have not ever come. "Those reputable sources" were saying metroid prime remaster every direct since 2018. It happened on 2023 and they were like "haha we were right". "Those reputable sources" are leaking windwaker/twilight princess double pack periodically. But I still cannot play those games on my switch. They are essentially 80% wrong, and 20% right.

[@Nope2479]

Like Nintendo is done making new systems 😂 buncha maroons.

[@cerealbananas]

​@@Scott...Well I say the first part and I don't give a flippity fuck about mother 3. Just emulate it lol

[@2shy2guy52]

Also, the switch is 7 years old and on really insufficient hardware for major 1st party games at this point

[@SparklingWithNiGHTS-yv5fe]

*Who else here is waiting for a 100% new Donkey Kong country game ?😊*

[@martinm6851]

I’d even be happy if they remastered the original trilogy

[@lpnp9477]

Nah, I want a DK64 follow up where they get it right

[@SchnookieC]

With the opening of Donkey Kong Country at Universal Japan this year and in Florida in 2025, it seems pretty likely that Nintendo has something in the pipeline to increase brand recognition, so stay tuned, could even be a switch 2 launch title

[@tired_boy]

Thatd be really cool

[@awesomeocelot7475]

Yeah where’s Retro’s DKC3 equivalent?!

[@keynanmartinez]

Better to wait than rush.

[@Jack655321]

The Switch is now in it's 8th year. The word "rush" shouldn't be anywhere near the Switch 2 conversation.

[@hackysmacky]

Almost a decade of switch and you say "rush" i know you're trolling and I took the bait. But commmonnn

[@mjc0961]

They haven't rushed. They're moving at a glacial pace. The Switch should have been replaced with a more powerful platform several years ago.

[@Incompetent_Hero]

​​​​@@mjc0961 How have you not learned Nintendo's MO after 3 full decades plus? Nintendo doesnt need to be a powerhouse, they never have been, and their failures have never been due to a lack of power. You're spoiled by the graphical power arms race Sony and Microsoft have been pushing, its just not necessary. Now, thats not to say the console isnt showing its age, but the major examples of first party technical issues came from a Launch Title, and a game forced to release by TPC's breakneck pace with mechandise obligations. These surface level 'observations' are laughable 😂 Now, when it comes to multiplat releases, Nintendo definitely has shot themselves in the foot by committing to budget level hardware, but thats again more due to the need for higher power to have version parity between consoles. Your take is literally saying they should have ditched their rebound success 2-3 years into its life, which is just nonsense

[@WeeLassReacts]

I did my waiting... 7 years of it!!!! IN AZKABAN!!! Sorry... couldnt resist

[@KidAL0]

Arlo demanding a sike is the weirdest part of the year so far

[@Pufflizard]

The same year that Larry David attacked Elmo?

[@Mutantman02]

Bro we got Jewish people climbing out of underground tunnels in New York what do you mean

[@Behorn14]

Definitely agree with port over the Zelda remakes that were on wiiu and yes make switch2 backwards compatible

[@milesgreen7853]

the delay being caused by the delay of a launch title would be very on-brand for nintendo's announcement method for their titles during the switch era (2-8 months reveal of a non major game pre release, 9-18 months for major games)

[@samplautz5586]

Considering the February direct was just a bunch of 3rd party or smaller games, it’s really weird to think that Nintendo isn’t doing something related to a new console

[@clap2973]

Part of me thinks that they’re still scared of what happened with the Wii U. So to me they’re making sure the successor is perfect.

[@yodaflyz]

Whatever they do, don't call it New Nintendo Switch or Switch U. We want people minds to think upgrade & not a new model of what we already have & cause market confusion. New 3ds & Wii U suffered in part because people thought they where just another 3ds & Wii & not the next generation of these systems.

[@FedoraKirb]

⁠@@yodaflyz…New 3DS WAS just another 3DS, though.

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

i mean, last few generations have had one hit (wii switch) and one flop (gc wii u), so i can understand some of the superstittion.

[@yodaflyz]

@@FedoraKirb There where about 4 New 3DS titles that wouldn't run on the previous hardware like the New 3DS version of Xenoblade Chronicles. Not enough to really carry it. Nintendo didn't push the New 3DS hard because they knew the Switch was going to replace it before it even came out.The poor name on top of lack of exclusive content didn't help it any as many kids who actually wanted to upgrade to New 3DS got told by there parents there old one works fine & didn't realizing there kid was talking about a system upgrade. The Wii U was actually given a better library over the Wii but even on its deathbed lots of people who owned the original Wii didn't know there system had been replaced by the Wii U because of the poor name choice & bad marketing. If a new switch system comes out with backwards compatibility, the name needs to make people think upgrade & not just another variant of what's already out there. I'd encourage them to actually officially name it the Switch 2 or the Super Switch (I'm parallel to Nintendo & Super Nintendo).

[@yodaflyz]

@@FedoraKirb I think my phone eated my response earlier. New 3DS had about 4 titles that wouldn't run on regular 3DS such as the New 3DS version of Xenoblade Chronicles. Nintendo didn't push New 3DS sales like there other handhelds because they knew the Switch was going to replace it & didn't see the sense in sinking money into pushing the New 3DS hardware. Pretty much the entire NEW 3DS library was also released for Switch so most people skipped New 3DS.

[@ChristopherMoreno005]

I get that having a new system launch during the holiday season is more exciting but I think launching it earlier in the year is better because that gives the system more time to gain traction, have more stock availability and more software to be available for everyone by the following holiday season. The Switch probably would've been like the Wii launch in 2006, extremely impossible to get your hands on one had it released in November with very few titles to pick up along with it.

[@emulationemperor8924]

(Haven't finished the video yet) I'll be honest, I think another March or at least March adjacent launch for a Nintendo console would be perfect. Very little to compete with that time of year. It gives a chance for all of the hard core or more dedicated fans to pick up a console right at launch. But it's also not the holiday season, so you don't have a ton of casual consumers buying up the units and making the supply tough to deal with. It feels like a ton of modern consoles lately deal with low supplies right at launch and well into their life cycles. A March launch would mitigate that. The console is launched with relatively little competition, supply issues can be sorted out for half of the year, and then it can be ramped up again for the Holiday season. Plus, then you get to claim all of the games in 2025 as launch "window" games and not just launch title games.

[@FungiGamer]

You know what kind of remaster/localization could have filled the void? Mother 3

[@noa670]

Go learn Japanese or play the fan translation

[@RegalPixelKing]

@@noa670 OR Nintendo can finally listen to fan demand and translate it like they should have nearly 20 years ago.

[@autismandgaming4532]

@@RegalPixelKing KZbin should let you see dislikes on replies

[@FungiGamer]

@@noa670 “Doctor! I’ve severed my hand!” “Go to medical school or consult WeMD”

[@R9000]

I almost feel bad saying this but.. I don't mind at all if the Switch 2 or whatever is delayed. Even a couple of years. I have so many games I haven't played, and I'm quite happy now with the number of Joy-Cons and other peripherals I have. I only have so much time outside of work to play games, and I don't have the money for Nintendo's latest console and all the games and accessories I'd want for it. I love my second-hand Switch, and I'm happy to keep playing it for years to come. Sit me down on the sofa with a friend and a Switch and Super Smash Bros Ultimate (with all the DLC fighters) and I'm a happy camper.

[@Next0gen0]

and this is why rumor's are to be taken with No salt. "This Thing's Gonna Happen" more often than not turns into a "it's not gonna happen". Really, were getting rumor's saying rumor's changed. This is why I don't pay attention to rumor's and just wait until an official announcement. Because where's your hype now? Me, it was the same as it was before. (that being I had none, lol)

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

Honestly, since Penny's Big Breakaway came out and Battlefront Classic getting announced, I kinna forgot about how thin the rest of the year is.

[@powerrangerturbo1]

PBB is SO good, too!

[@TheZestyCar]

For what it's work Kingdom Come Deliverance Royal Edition is also coming out in March. I hope that interest you even though it's been out for years at this point.

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

@@TheZestyCar Oh yeah. And I'm looking forward to Epic Micky, bit I'll probably play that on Playstation

[@lpnp9477]

Switch is a secondary console for me. I could play those games on PC, so I wouldn't buy them on Switch, which makes the lack of Switch games from Nintendo that much more frustrating.

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

@lpnp9477 The Switch was my primary console for a while, but that was before I got a PS5 and a Steam Deck, which have kinna taken over, so I'm right there with ya.

[@aka_Ingmar]

I truly believe that launching at the beginning of the year is the best possible way of doing things like how they did with the switch back in 2017 and the reason for that is it creates a possibility/h higher demand and more potential sales when the holiday of that year comes around instead of having a scarce amount of supply during the most busy sales season of the year. So having a console launch around the holidays is a huge mistake in my opinion and I think 2017 proved that for them in the best possible way You don't need to launch a console or a hot commodity during the holidays but it said launch it sooner so that way when the holidays come around you have the supply for it

[@tomrijnders]

Honestly I've never bothered with Switch 2 leaks, because they are only "eventually" going to be correct, and then the people who "leaked" it will be viewed as leak gods or something for somehow getting it right, when they've been guessing for YEARS. And a console getting "delayed" when it hasn't been announced yet doesn't sit right with me; sure it's an internal delay, but not a delay that we will ever be specifically informed of

[@KingDavidCreates]

I like the idea of early 2025 release it gives you the chance to get multiple big titles on the system before the holiday. Think of 2017 with Zelda, Splatoon, Mario all on the console when Holiday came around. It also gives time to produce more units to try and prevent too much scarcity by holiday. You also get word of mouth for those releases instead of just trailers which builds in my opinion more trust then just trailers and marketing. It’s one thing to just be excited for the launch it’s a whole nother to have a friend who jumped on the system first to confirm how great it actually is.

[@KingDavidCreates]

That last point is especially true when we’ve seen more botched launches of AAA games than ever before. I’ve begun swearing off triple A releases until half a year or more later, unless someone actually can validate it’s not a buggy broken disaster.

[@StompGojiStomp]

So a rumor about when it was coming out was superseded by a rumor that it isn’t coming out. Yet you would know when it is coming out when NINTENDO tells you. No guessing no rumors. It’s the valve Deckard all over again. It has been coming out for the past 3 years. Every year is the year. It’s exhausting to be told something that is basically “I made this thing up.” Over and over.

[@lanceams483]

The fact that this years lineup for the switch can compete with some of the years the Wii U had either shows how rough of a year it's looking to be for switch or shows how bad the Wii U experience truly was. Easily the best choice would be remakes/remasters, some like Windwaker and Twilight Princess are easy (since they already were done super well on Wii U) and would print tons of money, so I think it's easy to do, IF the years was/is planned to be a "buffer" year for the Switch as we shifted into the next console next year/at the end of the year. If not, and this possible delay was not foreseen and there were few plans for the switch other than a multiplat release, then they might be in trouble. We still have a pokemon direct, so a new/"new" pokemon game this year IS possible, though with how S/V was/is now, I'm not sure that's entirely a good thing if it is the case. It will still sell well, but I'm not sure it can carry a year alongside a 2 remakes and a new peach game. I could see them relying on partner companies to carry some weight, but the switch is old, so most new games won't be able to be ported unless they're built specifically to work on the platform. With recent news from Playstation and Xbox (no new franchise games on PS5 & Microsoft's rumored drop from the console space), the beginning of this year is looking grim. Luckily, third party/indie games have made the beginning a bit less bleak, but I'm still a bit worried about what's in store for the rest of this year. Personally, I'm good for a "break" year, I need to catch up on my backlog (2023 alone added a ton), so no new stuff isn't THAT bad. Just makes the space a bit less "exciting" is all.

[@andykegs5584]

Honestly, thought it would be 2025, 7 years for a standard console generation but this wasn’t a standard console generation with the whole pandemic thing plus whilst this switch does chug along with a lot of things it’s still my favourite indie and smaller game machine because I can take it on the go and there’s no faff. Super excited for the new Fantasy life game too so even though that’s not until October I will at least be seeing the switch out with an absolute banger 🤞

[@guyrainey3758]

I'm going to push back on a point: why does Nintendo have to reveal the Switch 2 by the end of this year? The advantage of an early 2025 launch is that it gives us megafans a chance to buy it before the holiday shopping spree. If Nintendo does a Reveal Direct in January, another Partner Direct in February, and a big Launch Direct in March... that's all we need to start trying to buy the system

[@benLXIX]

Most video game companies give a lot more of a heads up than just 3 months. It helps them to gauge public interest in the product and generate more talk about it.

[@kargaroc386]

>megafans

[@chuckbatman5]

There is a lot of behind the scenes stuff that needs more than just three months to be properly rolled out. Retailers need to be prepared, game companies outside of Nintendo need to have access to the hardware in order to develop for it, etc. It's about a lot more than just selling the product to the fans, they need to make sure things are ready on the business end to release a console. Back in the 90s Sega effectively shadowdropped the Saturn by pushing it's release forward to around E3 time and it played a big part in that consoles failure, a failure that literally led to them exiting the console making space. Obviously Nintendo is in a more stable place than that but it's still not worth the risk to not show ANYTHING of their new hardware until three months before it's launch

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

shadow dropping a game is one thing, but to shadow drop (or close to shadow drop) an entire console is an entirely different matter. You can't expect the general public to be hyped and willing to buy a whole new console with such a short notice, especially if you start announcing right after the holidays

[@tedtheblue]

I think at this point they might try something like the DSI, New 3DS, or gbc, a console that is a big upgrade off the last one, with backwards compatible games that have enhancements on the new console, and eventually exclusives for the console. I’m reaching in the dark but it’s not something they haven’t done before, it’ll keep the switch going, it’ll make the new switch look cool, etc.

[@elitsoerrosenberg]

So like a switch oled?

[@adora_was_taken]

@@elitsoerrosenberg that was just a screen upgrade, not a full hardware upgrade like the new 3ds. that would be like there being exclusives for the dsi xl that couldn't be played on the dsi lol

[@andrewg.3281]

I think it's too late for a switch pro like that. The dsi came out 5 years after the ds and new 3ds came out 4 years after the 3ds. It's about to be 7 years after the switch launched which seems mire like a new console timeframe. The 3ds came out 7 years after the ds and the wii u came out 6 years after the wii. It seems to me at least more like a time for a new console that's similar to the last one, but still very much a new generation like the snes, 3ds, or wii u.

[@liquidsnake6879]

Weren't all of those consoles miserable failures compared to their predecessors? The best one was the DSI but even that sold only half as many units as the DS, if it's too similar to the old one people won't see the point in getting the successor and you'll halve your player base, which will destroy any third party support you still have, it's one thing to ask people to make proprietary versions of their software for your underpowered handheld console if you can boast 120 million potential customers, it's another if that number goes down to 50

[@mjc0961]

DSi, New 3DS, and Game Boy Color were not big upgrades from the previous models. They were minor upgrades, not even enough to be an "Xbox One X/PlayStation 4 Pro" style mid gen upgrade.

[@WalkerSunriseChannel]

Delaying for a stronger launch lineup definitely makes sense. While BotW moved a lot of Switches I'd say that was an exception; generally, consoles don't sell for one "killer app" anymore. Even the Switch wouldn't have had the strong holiday that followed without Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2, hell even ARMS probably helped.

[@seannetworkblogsandgames7504]

I think I said this on here before, but there was NO chance of a 2024 release. They'd never cut the switch pricing (there's always a holiday with a big cut before a console goes away), and their last two consoles did well with a spring release. 2025 was the earliest possible window and I think now the leakers are trying to save face by calling it a delay

[@xeveemon]

Arlo, you do realize the big Holiday title, especially if all of this is true, is going to be Pokemon again, right? Because we usually get a new Pokemon game every year, unless we get DLC, and we had DLC last year, so it’s obviously going to be Pokemon that saves the holiday and it will be announced on Pokemon Day which already has been confirmed to be getting a Pokemon Presents. So if anything, Pokemon will save the holiday and be the major release, despite whatever type of mainline game it is.

[@7milesdavis]

Annnnd nope.

[@xeveemon]

@@7milesdavis Yeah, now I’m really wondering what’s going on. Like if Pokemon is 2025, then what does that mean? What’s going to be the holiday game and is Pokemon Z-A just going to be on Switch or will it be on both? So many questions now 🧐

[@RyokoAsakuraLastFan]

Honestly to me, I don't think there was ever a delay. I think the informant of the source made a mistake. A Q4 2024 release date would been've Feb/March/April of 2025. As Nintendo Fisical Year stars in May. Likely, they mistook a Fisical year as a Calendar year.

[@KevinAccetta]

I never expected the Switch 2 for 2024, since they haven't even said anything about it yet. Consoles don't usually get announced and released soon after. I wish they'd just announce it already so speculations and rumors would stop.

[@DaNintendude]

I'm not a business guy, so probably don't listen to me, but HERE'S HOW I'D HANDLE THIS YEAR if I were Nintendo: - Announce Nintendo Selects and put basically every single big game on it, announce others are coming later. Drop the first batch by June at the latest. - In the Summer, announce a new console reveal in the Fall, but emphasize that ALL Switch games will work on it and that they'll play better. - In the Summer or Fall, drop the price of the base Switch models and maybe make some really good bundles. That joined with Nintendo Selects makes the Switch more desirable. If someone doesn't have that much money, they may be more likely to buy a Switch with a bunch of Nintendo Selects games than wait for a new system next year. - In the Fall, do a huge blow-out for the Switch 2 BUT include base-Switch games in the lineup. Any game that doesn't absolutely have to be on the Switch 2 but is impressive enough to get people excited to buy it. They can play it this Winter, but play it enhanced when Switch 2 releases. It's not perfect, but it keeps the base Switch relevant enough to stand alongside the release process for Switch 2.

[@HarmonicWave]

Oh darn, I guess I'll just have to play my 200 Switch games instead, maybe even one of the 32 games that I haven't even started.

[@gab_v250]

Nintendo fan be like:

[@eastonmoon]

Personally, last year was annoying for me with everyone saying switch 2, since as someone that studies marketing I've believed switch 2 was 2025 for quite a while.

[@ArtemisWasHere]

As someone with a professional curiosity for marketing practices, why is this?

[@AK_804]

how?

[@DopplesGryndthloggle]

Yeah I really don't understand why people believe Switch 2 HAS to happen NOW, when the switch has been doing gangbusters and the only reason I can think of is "because other companies do it like that" Like, since when has Nintendo ever followed a trend -like that- (not a marketing person this is just vibes)

[@mathmatucla]

I mean you have to post something more substantial than that. To a layperson like myself, a 2024 launch would be a huge boon for Nintendo. You can jump on Sony and Microsoft while their modern consoles are listing, plus you close the gap on hardware capabilities to unlock the next generation of ports and cross-platform releases.

[@Alorso_]

Yep I don't know why people are that surprised, switch is still selling well regardless of what we say and want, Nintendo like any business is going to keep pushing the switch because it makes a lot of money still, it's perfectly logical

[@antoniopanzetta4778]

Congrats on the move! I was praying for you! So happy you finally got a place😊

[@RevolutionDude]

Does a delay Switch 2 mean they give us Zelda remakes to hold us over??? Please Nintendo!

[@c0mpu73rguy]

Wind Waker DX!!! Gimme gimme gimme!

[@tobigrantlbart]

​@@c0mpu73rguy Another Windwaker remake? I know nobody including me had a WiiU, but I am getting tired of games having like 3 remakes and 5 remasters I'd more like to just get a new game, or at least a remake of a game that didn't happen already

[@shantaehalf-geniehero4318]

⁠@@tobigrantlbartwindwaker & twilight princess HD were 1 time remastered? They weren’t even remade yet, they’re just basic remasters still stuck on the Wii U.

[@c0mpu73rguy]

@@tobigrantlbart I was half joking when writing that but technically, WW HD wasn't really a remake (or a very small one since it just added the fast sail). Since I really love this game, if it comes back again someday, I really wish we could get an improved version with more islands to explore, like the cut Game Cube island or the hot spring island, more new stuff like the fast sail (maybe a paraglider working like in BotW, maybe the cut water boots). Being able to customize the sail would be neat too.

[@germin9784]

I want my Oracle games on Switch, and Minish Cap too. And it's a lot to ask, but I wish they made the Oracle games into a trilogy

[@anthonywade8880]

For a system with absolutely no news about being released or anything from Nintendo, y’all listen out for everything except facts. Stop with the hyperbole. There’s no delay in the Switch 2 since it has never been announced. Keep listening though. Your videos are becoming worse and worse with these ‘rumors’.

[@theshadowdirector]

Really? I don't remember it being a slow launch at all. The holiday really doesn't make much of a difference when you're likely to be unable to meet demand on stock anyway.

[@JPD2587]

Listening to KZbinrs complain about moving into their new home is utterly insufferable.

[@SketchpadLad]

Actually crazy how I love watching the square space bits. Usually KZbinrs and their sponsor segments are extremely quirky (not in a good way) and quite frankly annoying, but yours are simple, straight to the point, honest, and fun

[@gamechannelminecraft6583]

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[@minecrafter3448]

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[@eastymii]

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[@davestew5135]

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[@damonkatumaru]

I think the reason for the delay was so that they could sell more games that the switch is releasing because even they realized that they make the mistake of making game too close to the release of a new council and that kills the revenue for those games. I'm glad they caught on to that bad habit of theirs, even if their system is backwards compatible.

[@CQuoia]

Something they can do for the last year of the Switch, along with lowering the price, is releasing a new collection of Nintendo Selects games! Something like a wrap-up year to make sure that all the potential buyers who were still hesitant about the price tags get a super deal with bundles and so on!

[@Torraduke]

I'm really not happy with how 2024 is looking. With the delay of the Switch 2, its left them with virtually no plans for this year it seems. By not having a Nintendo Direct in February, we've been left in the dark on what's coming for this year. We don't even seem to have much of anything to hold us over until the Switch 2. Not even Pokemon has anything for this year. I mean, we don't even seem to have a holiday title. What is going on? We're looking at a year worse than 2020.

[@KairuHakubi]

what's incredible to me is we will still not have a switch zelda. only expansions/remakes/ports on switch, of games that are still visibly from previous generations. we'll never get to see what 'switch zelda' would look like.

[@gamerdude7576]

This is a Wii to Wii U situation, Nintendo needs to make sure that the idea that this a straight upgrade across the board in all areas of performance while being fully backwards compatible is clearly portrayed to customers, otherwise any sort of traction based on expectations for the new console is gonna die out fast.

[@animeartist888]

They better not call it the Switch U or otherwise make it sound like an add-on instead of its own console. And ffs, they'd better not be insulting fans with the way they market it- oh, the jock bully brothers want to use the TV for watching the football game, little nerd brother better go to his room and play alone like a nerrrrd. Like wtf were those commercials, seriously? The Switch was marketed way better with a similar feature.

[@DragonNexus]

Well on the plus side with no major PS5 or Switch games this year I can start on my backlog.

[@Ted_Curtis]

I'm perfectly happy waiting for early 2025 for the Switch 2 in all honestly. There's a ton of games in my backlog that I've yet to get to and a slow year gives me the chance to go through them one by one. Save the biggest, brightest games for the Switch 2, let that system have all the attention it needs, while the Switch quietly steps into the background. In my opinion, 2023 was a good finale for the Switch, with Nintendo putting out so many amazing games, even in a year stuffed with genre-defining masterpieces. The fact that the 7-year-old Switch still stood out on its own while the competition was going absolutely insane only cemented its legacy. 2023 was the year the Switch defended its title and 2024 is the epilogue, the quiet before the storm that will be the successor.

[@bettybunbun9664]

If Nintendo just released a couple more remakes/remasters this year I'd be happy. Metroid Prime 3, Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario, Super Mario Galaxy 2, a lot of great options.

[@VikTimmy]

Given the Pokémon presents today and Legends Z-A specifically listing the switch and a broad 2025 (not ‘early’ like Arceus got) it’s possible that we are still significantly further out from the switch successor than anyone has been saying. It’s not impossible for the next console to come out before the new Legends game, emerald and ultra sun/moon set precedents for Pokémon games releasing a gen behind the current hardware. But one of those was the ‘3rd’ game of it’s set and the others were more of a full priced expansion, so it’s kinda hard to tell despite the company history of being ok launching on newly ‘obsolete’ hardware

[@Gattsu_the_struggler]

Wii U flopped hard and it seems like Nintendo learned their lesson. I’m hoping the success of the switch didn’t make them forget and that’s the reason the switch’s successor got delayed. Releasing the console at the right time, with proper, planned out advertising along with a launch title is the way to go. Make a mark Nintendo.

[@Hambo325]

Arlos setups for filming are always so on point, I love his little props

[@jameslawrenson1208]

It shows what his favorite franchises are.

[@sac1218]

⁠@@jameslawrenson1208thanks genius

[@7milesdavis]

How about Prime 4?! Can we get an update already? Where is Donkey Kong, Mario Kart? It’s been a decade for both series. Other 3d Zelda titles, Prime 2 and 3?

[@JenSpinsSGP]

One of my only hopes for the switch 2 is that it is backwards compatible. The switch has a huge library so it would be super convenient to pop in a game I missed during the switches lifetime and play it on the next system.

[@samuelbakes2763]

To be fair, Nintendo has been doing a significant amount of “This will be available today” in their directs (think Pikmin 1+2 and F-zero 99) An entire device might be a bit much, but I could see a “And these new devices, are shipping today”

[@dragoon1090]

Retailers need time to stock it.

[@kargaroc386]

Yeah any sort of release like that would have leaks like a sieve.

[@dukeminty]

The Sega Saturn tried that, it nearly killed the entire company with how poorly the reception was

[@alecadabra_]

I don’t know if Nintendo is this diabolical, but I have a theory that perhaps the Switch 2 was ALWAYS going to come out next year. I bet all the rumors of it being announced soon have hurt the Switch sales quite a bit, so they fabricated a rumor that it was delayed to ensure people still maintain interest in the system, and it’s upcoming games

[@sam_barris]

Could be. My first thought was that if we have that much longer with Switch 1, maybe I should reconsider my decision to not get an OLED. They almost got me!

[@Ray_2112]

yeah, or none of those rumors are true anyway and we're just speculating based on hot air ;)

[@CowboyCourier]

7:31 - Finally, someone says it out loud!

[@axelvoss9653]

It's not like there's nothing to DO on the Switch. You'll survive until the Switch 2. Also, THOUSAND YEAR DOOR?? THE THING YOU'VE WANTED *FOREVER???* *H E L L O ? ? ? ? ? ?*

[@Cynim]

A “delay” of something that wasn’t announced is not a delay….! And having a breather year isn’t a big deal, given what we had before!

[@MrCanKnotNot]

I was actually able to talk to a Nintendo employee, and the things we talked about was interesting, though I think the 2025 delay would be realized in the summer time if they release a direct

[@dougc84]

The Switch launched with like... 5 games. It was a less-than-stellar release. But what made people buy it was BotW, which ended up becoming game of the year. But, after BotW, the system just kinda sat for a while until more came out. Backwards compatibility should be a thing. But... backwards compatibility means there's not a lot of reason to upgrade. Unless there's a compelling reason to. Now, all the games you know and love on the Switch being upscaled over time will probably be a thing, but that will only pull in those that have a real problem with the Switch's current resolution. It still needs to be something that pulls people in. Dread 4 would be an outstanding candidate. Or a new 3D Mario that really stretches what the system does (but hopefully we aren't pushing the Switch 2's APU to the max on day 1 like we did with BotW). Some major 3rd party titles that were never available on the Switch 1, like Elden Ring, would be huge for the Nintendo fans that don't have a gaming PC and don't want extra consoles. That's the kind of stuff that will sell the Switch 2. I don't see it being as popular as the Switch, but, the more this gets discussed, I think Switch 2 will be a continuation of the Switch. The Switch Pro, if you will. I think the OG Switch will continue to be a thing. Games compatible with one will be compatible with the other. But running on Switch 2 should unlock higher frame rates, resolutions, and maybe even additional graphics options that aren't available on the OG Switch. It makes the Switch 2 a nice upgrade path to someone who's Switch has died or is feeling sluggish, without Nintendo having to reinvent the wheel. They can keep doing what they're doing and succeed.

[@SuperWiiBros08]

As a wise man said "A delayed game is always delayed and is not bad but is good then if it was not delayed it would be bad and this only applies for older generations where games couldn't get online patches and it had to delay" -Charles Martinet

[@slavche]

Also how can you have a DELAY when NOTHING was announced or RUMOUR even SLIGHTLY CONFIRMED AT ALL.. but people just PUSHING THEIR PREDICTIONS LATER.... "delay" AHAH

[@RandomEntry13013]

Sort of unrelated, but I found a vr headset in Animal crossing, and that got me thinking about Nintendo and vr. They always need a hook for thier new systems, and given Switch's success I can see Nintendo wanting to add more than just processing power to the switch2. VR fits that bill almost perfectly, all the cool consoles are doing it, and the joycons are already nearly vr controllers. Adding vr content that only required a headset (as a bundle or sold seperately), could be seen as a big draw for newcomers, fence sitters, and upgraders. One that they would need to meet or exceed the switch's initial success. Not saying it would work, just that it would be a very Nintendo thing to do.

[@TheDreadedZero]

This is going to be like the end of the Wii. Nothing first party and just a bunch of shovelware

[@garchompy_1561]

early 2025 would also put it around the same time GTA 6 is meant to come out, which would be some potentially influential competition for a lot of adult (okay lets be honest not just adult) gamers. sure "nintendo fans" and "Grand Theft Auto fans" are quite different groups, but theres a lot of overlap in casual people that just play whatevers big.

[@DanielNevesBL]

Yes, I am really anxious for the release and the reveal of the next console, but I don’t really understand(general and my anxiety) towards this. I think that this is even bigger than the Wii U successor reveal. I don’t know if it’s because now we have even bigger hopes to see this successor to be successful….

[@chris7921]

I don’t see how they need more time on the next 3D Mario. The team haven’t made anything since Mario Odyssey, that’s over seven years for a 3D Mario game

[@gamesingreen8449]

At this point I’m completely certain the Nintendo team just watches Arlo’s predicts for the year, and if switch 2 is mentioned, they delay it for one more year as a bet they have

[@CritAlps]

My guess for the holiday season/late 2024 in general is just going to be remakes/remasters (LoZ WW & TP, Metroid Prime 2 & 3, etc.), more Splatoon Updates, and a Pokemon Game (I'm thinking probably a Pokemon BW Sequel). Keeping my fingers crossed that Nintendo releases a remake/remaster of an older Fire Emblem game, but realistically expecting them to just hold off for a while given how recently Engage came out.

[@IT-ry8xt]

Switch could use "ghost of tsushima" type game, one last game to squize all juice from the switch. Maybe some new donkey kong, or zelda spinoff where you play in the ancient times of zonai, something big just to end the year (please no pokemon games, they rarely good at start)

[@lilblue9880]

I’ve heard that a possible reason for them postponing the launch is the value of yen vs the cost of production with a consideration of what the predicted market conditions are going to be. So they may have postponed it out of a fear that they’ll manufacture at a high conversion point and then have the value of their currency drop before the sales can begin, thus loosing them money.

[@StrawHatJedi]

If they're not going to release the Switch 2 this year, it probably wouldn't be great business to announce it this year. The Switch was announced in October, but Wii U sales were pretty much dead already, so they really didn't have much to lose. Switch sales are slowing, but they'd be killing the holiday sales for Switch if they announced a successor launching in March. For the rest of this year, they could probably get Wind Waker & Twilight Princess HD out on the Switch in the fall. There will also almost certainly be a Pokemon game in November (probably a remake of some kind). If they could release even one more high profile port / remaster like Metroid Prime 2 & 3 in late summer, they'd probably be in okay shape for 2024, particularly if, as you've suggested, they drop the price going into the holidays. They could ride out a price drop even through early 2025. You don't want to burn people who buy a Switch for the holidays by announcing Switch 2 in January. Wait until early Feb. 2025 for a big announcement, then release around May / June. The March release window for the Switch only really worked because the Wii U was already effectively dead. If this year was supposed to be the launch year for new hardware, they're going to be relying even more on sales of the current Switch going into the holiday. A new hardware announcement would certainly dampen those sales, even if there was a price drop. But as noted, a Pokemon game of some sort coupled with Zelda remasters could be enough for the holiday, particularly positioned alongside a price drop. For the record, I assumed a Pokemon game on the original switch was probably coming out regardless of whether or not there was a new hardware launch. I also don't think it makes much sense to save WW & TP HD for a Switch 2. They ran on Wii U, so should be easy enough to port to Switch. There's nothing technically demanding which requires new hardware and the Switch already has such a large potential customer base, it just doesn't seem worth it to make them Switch 2 exclusives when they clearly don't need to be.

[@corjoth]

I remember when the Switch Launched. Word from Ninty was "The Console will have support for at least 7 years". Covid hit, kneecapped dev kits. We are 100% looking at another good streak w/no new ninty console.

[@OneFlyingEye]

TBH: I must be pretty alone in thinking that there would be no switch 2 this year, have been thinking that for a couple years, I'm still betting a 2025 release. The switch is still going strong and the game sales are very strong, games take a while to make and the slowdown is due to resources going towards that. With tears of the kingdom they've (hopefully) realized just how important getting out a quality polished product can mean. Early 2022 company President Shuntaro Furukawa said the switch was still in the middle of it's life cycle (if that were the exact middle we would expect a 2027 switch 2), which I took to mean at least 3-4 more years of the switch. There is also the chip shortage, which is still in effect though not as bad as before, and they probably wanted to wait that out before releasing a new system because once the new system releases people will stop caring about buying games for the switch even if they can't get a switch 2, if they can't meet demand because of a lack of chips that means they lose a lot of switch 1 game sales without supplanting them with switch 2 sales. I could be wrong but a 2025 or even a 2026 (I hope not) seems more likely to me than a 2024 release

[@earthboundman5]

Why is everyone so up in arms about a rumor of a difference of like 6 months? When I was a kid that would have been devastating but ever since 2020 6 months goes by in the blink of an eye. And why are people acting like no new console this year means the year will suck? They're always sitting on a few games that are ready to go just in case they need to fill a gap. They can shadow drop Metroid Prime 2/3, Wind Waker/Twilight Princess, or some other remakes to fill gaps. Even in 2023, we didn't know Mario Wonder existed until June, so there could still be a big game for the holiday.

[@pizzaw0lf489]

Nintendo was NOT MESSING AROUND when they said they're supporting the Switch for 10 years.