🆕✨ NISIS destroyed idols & artifacts from pre-Islamic era, why didn’t the early Muslims do it? JAL

[@Quantum-1157]

The Jews and Christians are fully aware that Ibrahim (AS) smashed idols, the early Christians smashed idols across Europe as Christianity replaced paganism in Europe, and the jews also aware of the order to destroy idols - story of the golden calf.

[@JirenThegreylien]

Not related to nisis, but the buddha statues were destroyed in the modern era despite its location being muslim for years.

[@timurkhakimov8083]

@@JirenThegreylien Thats because the talibans sheikh gave the fatwa that it was no longer being worshipped and therefore not an idol

[@Nuss-j4s]

@@timurkhakimov8083 but then it makes even less sense that they destroyed it; I mean, why did they cared if it wasn't an idol anymore???

[@thaknobodi]

@@Nuss-j4s Allah commands us not to insult others's idols so that they dont insult Allah. So they left it while it was being worshipped. Since it was no longer relevant it was commanded to be removed. How did you not think of that? Its in the Quran.

[@AbuBakrAlKamardi-cg9jq]

Our prophet pbuh destroyed all the idols inside kaba and all around Makkah

[@Xenor999]

Because it was a holy place unlike other places.

[@ChErRyaVe20pK]

He just said that. Did you watch a different video?

[@Soldier-Of-Mahdi]

Because mecca was place monothiesm from Adam (as), idol worship is not a thing of mecca.

[@SMARTYTAB_]

He didn't do It In Every Place

[@shahmoneyshahmoney9250]

your a hindu raw agent how come you indians never do stuff inside your own country hindu india?

[@gokix2243]

Imam Al-Shafi’i, may Allah Almighty have mercy on him, was asked: How do you know the people of the truth in a time of fitnah?! He said: “Follow the enemy’s arrows, as they will guide you to them.”

[@notgotnameyet]

@@gokix2243 Mashallah

[@57Moon75]

Isis takfirs hamas. Our enemy (israel) attacks hamas. Do we follow kharijis or people who dont fully follow sharia?

[@أفلاكالأفكار]

America hates Iran and is friendly with Saudi Arabia. Thus by this logic, Shia Iran is the people of truth

[@flansable]

The real answer is those statues were hidden underground and not visible. If the sahaba saw them they would have destroyed them

[@abdulHaqqqq]

you have no evidence for such a claim

[@Name-jz4fb]

@@flansable this is correct, a lot of these statues were unearthed by archeologists much later

[@nuhashahmed7692]

​@@abdulHaqqqqThis is such an easy fact to confirm lol

[@erenjeager5290]

@@abdulHaqqqqI think he means you can just search up underground idols/ statues on the internet and the results would confirm that idols and statues could be kept underground where the companions would not have known about them.

[@DrWoofOfficial]

Stop lying 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Twin_cia]

The companions were ordered to destroy the idols in the kaaba due to it being a sacred place in islam that was bulit by abraham

[@shakeelshifullahshakeel490]

Allah says In the Quran "there is no pressure regarding faith"

[@sticky2484]

built by ibrahim and ismail radiyallahu anhum

[@amsedisou20]

The command to destroy idols is not specific to the kabah Muslim (969) narrated that Abu’l-Hayaaj al-Asadi said: ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib said to me: “Shall I not send you with the same instructions as the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sent me? ‘Do not leave any image without defacing it or any built-up grave without leveling it.’” Muslim (832) narrated from ‘Urwah ibn ‘Abasah that he said to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “With what were you sent?” He said, “I was sent to uphold the ties of kinship, to break the idols, and so that Allaah would be worshipped alone with no partner or associate.”

[@Twin_cia]

@@amsedisou20 i see your point but the religion of idols in the mosseum has already gone extinct thousands of years ago, therefore destroying it is pointless if no one is worshipping it

[@Mystiphy]

@@Twin_cia May Allah bless you, i think it's pretty clear that the commandment is to destroy idols \ statues, whether it is worshipped or not. The obligation to destroy them is even stronger if they are worshipped instead of Allaah. There are aayaat that clearly state the belief that creating and giving form to creation is the preserve of their Lord, Creator and Fashioner, so it is not permissible for anyone to encroach on that and to try to match the creation of Allah. And there is a hadith that states that this practice (idol worship) will return to the Arabian Peninsula at the end of time, before the onset of the Hour. And Allah knows best.

[@VALLAERION]

The Ottomans, when they turned the parthenon in Athens into a mosque they kept all the statues and took care of them because of their historical value.

[@icecream-wf5yb]

The ottomans were jahil

[@aliffiehelmy7886]

@@icecream-wf5yb wow, like ur so much good

[@eliw.1197]

Nice.

[@m.a1013]

The Ottomans did not do everything according to Islam

[@potaotismus7586]

The answer is simple. All of those idols were discovered by deep and fine digging by archaeologists through the years.

[@thereuniter]

1 - Muslim (969) narrated that Abu’l-Hayaaj al-Asadi said: ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib said to me: “Shall I not send you with the same instructions as the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sent me? ‘Do not leave any image without defacing it or any built-up grave without leveling it.’” 2 - Muslim (832) narrated from ‘Urwah ibn ‘Abasah that he said to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “With what were you sent?” He said, “I was sent to uphold the ties of kinship, to break the idols, and so that Allaah would be worshipped alone with no partner or associate.” The obligation to destroy them is even stronger if they are worshipped instead of Allaah. 3 - al-Bukhaari (3020) and Muslim (2476) narrated that Jareer ibn ‘Abd-Allaah al-Bajali said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to me: “O Jareer, will you not relieve me of Dhu’l-Khalsah?” That was a house (in Yemen) belonging to the (tribe of) Khath’am, which was called Ka’bat al-Yamaaniyyah. I set out with one hundred and fifty horsemen. I used not to sit firm on horses and I mentioned that to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He struck me on my chest with his hand and said, 'O Allaah! Make him firm and make him one who guides others and is guided on the right path.' " So Jareer went and burned it with fire, then Jareer sent a man called Abu Artaat to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He said, “I did not come to you until we had left it like a scabby camel.” Then the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) blessed the horses of (the tribe of) Ahmas and their men five times. Al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar said: This hadeeth indicates that it is prescribed to remove things that may tempt or confuse the people, whether they are buildings, people, animals or inanimate objects.

[@gokix2243]

"Its not eyes that are blind but the hearts"

[@EruRoraitoX]

The internet aalim, everyone that read Muslim and Bukhari nowadays is a well versed aalim, ma sha Allah.

[@thereuniter]

@@EruRoraitoX 7.Abu Juhayfah said: the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) forbade the price of a dog and the price of blood, and he forbade tattooing and asking to be tattooed, and the consumption or paying of ribaa, and he cursed those who make images. (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 1980). II.Islam prescribes that idols should be destroyed and smashed, not made and repaired. Among the evidence for this is the following: 1.‘Abd-Allah ibn Mas’ood (may Allah be pleased with him) said: when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) entered Makkah [at the Conquest], there were three hundred and sixty idols around the Ka’bah. He started hitting them with his stick and saying, “Truth has come and Baatil (falsehood) has vanished. Surely, Baatil is ever bound to vanish” [al-Israa’ 17:81 - interpretation of the meaning]. (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 2346; Muslim, 1781). 2.Abu’l-Hiyaaj al-Asadi said: ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib said to me: Shall I not send you on the same basis as the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) sent me? Do not leave any statue without destroying it, and do not leave any built-up grave without razing it to the ground. (According to one report: and do not leave any picture without erasing it). (narrated by Muslim, 969). Ibn al-Qayyim said: Tamaatheel is the plural of Timthaal (statue), which refers to a representative image. Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah) said: The command is to destroy two types of images: images which represent the deceased person, and images which are placed on top of graves - because Shirk may come about from both types. (Majmoo’ al-Fatawaa, 17/462). (al-Fawaa’id, p. 196). III.The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) warned against bringing images into the house, and said that this is a sin and deprives a person of good. Among the evidence for that is the following: 1.Abu Talhah said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) say: The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or statues.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 3053; Muslim, 2106). 2.‘Aa’ishah Umm al-Mu’mineen (may Allah be pleased with her) said that she bought a pillow on which there were images. When the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) saw it, he stood at the door and did not enter. She saw on his face that he was upset, and said: O Messenger of Allah, I repent to Allah and His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). What is my sin? The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: What is this pillow? She said, I bought it for you so that you could sit on it and recline on it. The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: On the Day of Resurrection, the makers of these images will be punished and it will be said to them, Give life to that which you have created. And he said: The angels do not enter a house in which there are images. (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 1999; Muslim, 2107). IV.Making images is a way of falling into Shirk, because Shirk starts with the veneration of those who are depicted in the images, especially when people have little or no knowledge. The evidence for this is: Ibn ‘Abbaas said: The idols of the people of Nooh were known among the Arabs later on. Wadd belonged to (the tribe of) Kalb in Dawmat al-Jandal. Suwaa’ belonged to Hudhayl. Yaghooth belonged to Muraad, then to Bani Ghutayf in al-Jawf, near Sabaa’. Ya’ooq belonged to Hamadaan. Nasar belonged to Humayr of Aal Dhi’l-Kalaa’. These were names of righteous men from the people of Nooh. When they died, the Shaytaan inspired their people to set up idols in the places where they had used to sit, and to call those idols by their names. They did that but they did not worship them, but after those people died and knowledge had been forgotten, then they started to worship them. (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 4636). Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said: The reason why al-Laat was worshipped was the veneration of the grave of a righteous man which was there. (Iqtidaa’ al-Siraat al-Mustaqeem, 2/333). And he said: This problem - i.e., veneration - which is why Islam forbids (images), is the reason why so many of nations have fallen into committing Shirk to a greater or lesser degree. (al-Iqtidaa’, 2/334). Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) said, describing how the Shaytaan plays with the Christians: He plays with them with regard to the images which they have in their churches and which they worship. You cannot find any church which is free of these images of Maryam (Mary), the Messiah, George, Peter and others of their saints and martyrs. Most of them bow to these images and pray to them instead of to Allah. The Patriarch of Alexandria even wrote a letter to the ruler of Rome supporting the idea of bowing to these images: (he said) Allah commanded Moosa to make images of cherubim in the Tabernacle; and when Sulayman the son of Dawood built the Temple, he made images of cherubim and put them inside the Temple. Then he said in his letter: this is like when a king sends a letter to one of his governors and the governor takes the letter and kisses it then touches it to his forehead [a sign of respect], and stands up to receive it. He does not do this to venerate the paper and ink, but to venerate the king. In the same way, when one bows to an image, it is to venerate the person represented by the image, not to venerate the paints and colours. This is exactly the same as the example given to justify idol worship. (Ighaathat al-Lahfaan, 2/292). And he said: In most cases, the reason why nations fall into Shirk is because of images and graves.” (Zaad al-Ma’aad, 3/458). V.The aayaat and ahaadeeth quoted above indicate that the prohibition of images is for two reasons: The first is: because it implies that one is trying to match the creation of Allah. The second is: because it is an imitation of the kuffaar. The third is: because it is a means of veneration and falling into Shirk. From the above it is clear that it is forbidden to make statues, whether the statue is of a Muslim or a kaafir. Whoever does that is trying to match the creation of Allah and thus deserves to be cursed. We ask Allah to keep us safe and sound, and to guide us. May Allah bless our Prophet Muhammad.

[@spartanbeast3575]

@@EruRoraitoX Not diminishing anyone, but Assim al Hakeem himself isn't a scholar, so you can't weigh other people's responses with the assumption that Assim al Hakeem is an alim.

[@spartanbeast3575]

@@EruRoraitoX Plus he in no way tried explaining the hadith on his own, he brought the statement of Ibn Hajar al Asqalani, a scholar of the Shaf'i madhab, on this issue, not to mention his great and lengthy response afterwards with the sayings of other scholars explaining even more hadith. He is not claiming to be on the level of an alim, what he is doing is simply bringing quotes of the ulamaa to back up the hadith he is quoting. He isn't even making any point himself and trying to justify it using the words of scholars, instead he is first quoting hadith and then scholars.

[@ng1n369]

Most of the artifacts and idols currently in museums around the Muslim world were rediscovered by western orientalists in the 18 and 1900s, so the early Muslims probably never knew they existed at all. And besides, they had no reason to go looking for them because they were useless and only representative of Jahiliyyah. In other words, they didn't care. Western orientalists were fascinated by them because of vapidity and sterility of their own culture, which places curiosity above good morals. We Muslims shouldn't concern ourselves with such things and focus on improving our own selves and communities.

[@RexoryByzaboo]

Well said, brother/sister.

[@DrWoofOfficial]

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[@ThedeadaccountAL]

False the Great Sphinx of Giza was always known to Arabs and they documented it since then

[@berkaneanis3912]

@@ThedeadaccountAL he said most of them not all of them

[@Megaspinosaurusrex]

History is science. Those artifacts aren't useless, they help us learn much informations on the past of our ancestors. If you can't appreciate them for what they are. At least appreciate them for being a reminder of how far we've come, and the great civilizations that muslims trumphed against

[@sparephone8228]

Idols were destroyed in kabba as it was originally built by Ibrahim as a sanctuary for Muslims. However when Muslims conquered other lands, they did not interfere in the religious practices of the land. Remember the giant Buddha statues in Afghanistan? Only when the Taliban came to power were they destroyed.

[@zmss8537]

Most of these artifacts and idols where uncovered im modern times, they were buried during khlafa times.

[@DrWoofOfficial]

😂😂

[@gemino4910]

Nobody is worshipping ancient archeological artifacts, if nobody is worshipping something it’s not an idol, the definition of an idol is a physical item that is worshipped. Also, if nobody is around to worship something why destroy it? If someone on earth suddenly started worshipping chairs, would you get out of yours and smash it? Of course not, because he’s not there worshipping yours.

[@AbuBakr01]

@@gemino4910 They were built specifically for the purpose of being worshipped back then, that makes them idols. If someone built a chair specifically for it to be his idol that would be a chair and an idol. That doesnt mean that every chair is now an idol. It means that particular chair is an idol now. If someone started to worship every chair he saw on earth they would all become HIS idols but not Idols per se. Instead of removing all the chairs on earth youd have to teach the idol worshipper that they arent to be worshipped in the first place!

[@phone8330]

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[@MehdiMoha-p1m]

The early Muslims destroyed all the idols and spread Islam

[@abdulHaqqqq]

they did not

[@sedridorIsLost]

@@abdulHaqqqq source? or are you one of those who worship atakufr?

[@abdulHaqqqq]

@@sedridorIsLost the statues in the pyramids are still intact and notice how Umar R.A didn’t destroy any idol in the church of the holy sepulchre. This says a lot

[@sedridorIsLost]

@@abdulHaqqqq do we take upon what Umar may Allah be pleased with him over the prophets of God? not all the statues of Egypt were found

[@nosmokejazwinski6297]

@@abdulHaqqqq Christians are people of the book and they are to be tolerated. That’s why no statues in churches were destroyed.

[@thispodcastisnotimportant6667]

It should be noted that the idols of the Kaaba were destroyed because it was the house of Abraham. There is no reason to destroy Hindu temples or ancient idols from China, Ireland, or the Middle east etc. if they are not in Mecca and Medina because those are the sacred sites of Islam established by Abraham. And therefore Allah orders that idols are banned from this place but elsewhere they should remain unmolested as a test to the Muslims as well. But never in the site of God's house built by Abraham (may the blessings of Allah be upon him).

[@ibnfaruque_]

You're totally wrong. Abu’l-Hayaaj al-Asadi said: ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib said to me: “Shall I not send you with the same instructions as the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sent me? ‘Do not leave any image without defacing it or any built-up grave without leveling it.’”

[@Notreallyhereanymore]

That was in context and does not apply to all​@@ibnfaruque_

[@emotionalvideos6897]

@@ibnfaruque_ shut up and don't analize hadiths upon your wishes

[@ibnfaruque_]

@@Notreallyhereanymore Mahmoud of Ghazni destroyed all idols, somnath temple was destroyed, Aurangzeb destroyed multiple temples, same with Muhammad bin Tughlaq. Muslims in those times had walaa wal baraa and were harsh with the kuffar, today sadly we're replaced with those who make friendships with the kuffar and keep finding "context" all their lives

[@speemus6223]

@@ibnfaruque_ if you read a book do u read from page 1 or 10 first? youre acting like islamaphobes and i$i$, if someone is using the place of worship and we destroy it then it is forcing religion which is not what islam teaches us, nobody is exempt from making a mistake and so are those you mentioned. but here, why did ghazni destroy the temple? if you read it is because the temple was used as base of operations by the hindus to plot against him. he did not destroy the temple because he decided to ignore Al-Baqara 256.

[@reallyaveragehuman520]

I understand Sheikh. He is saying, we shouldn't question why the rulers did not do it. Frankly, they should be asked, but directing it to the Sheikh has no benefit. No doubt Sheikh will do it if he is the ruler.

[@ismailalterawi3588]

Basically, because they might be unable to destroy it or because they didn't notice or figure it out.

[@syedmuqtadirahmed3624]

The Sahaba and the great Caliphs did not destroy these idols because they were not ignorant. The muslims knew their purpose was to spread the message of islam and not destroy the heritage and architecture of the lands they conquer. All subjects under an islamic state had and still have the right to religious freedom.

[@Iamfsaly]

There is a difference between an idol and a statue in sharia books, an idol is worshipped statue

[@Snipe_BLOX]

Idols do not have to be statues tho it can be humans cows, in terms of idol worship

[@amerulhaque9959]

It is not permissible to destroy idols unless they are placed in a masjid, as far as I know, it is not permissible to destroy idols for many reasons such as:it promotes violence, hate,etc. and etc. and this allows for media to portray islam as a violent religion

[@ServantoftheInfiniteTruth]

@@amerulhaque9959 it's violent to destroy lifeless statues?

[@Ibn.husqyn]

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[@ServantoftheInfiniteTruth]

@@amerulhaque9959 yet our brothers and sisters fall to their B0mB5

[@anonymous.2471]

@@ServantoftheInfiniteTruth it is violent when your actions tarnish to reputation of islam. Islam is here to spread peace not inflict communal violence.

[@ServantoftheInfiniteTruth]

@@anonymous.2471 Ibrahim(as) broke idols and he was despised for it aswell. Many who follow the precepts of Allah(swt) will be despised by men, and their reputations will be tarnished.

[@Fire_I_]

You say that the prophet, Sallallahu aleyhim wa salam, destroyed the stone idols of Kaaba,- true facts. That was done, on the other hand, to those in a holy mosque and pilgrimage site, having religious significance. To me it is interesting to know who our ancestor where and what religous customs they had. If we are to know evil, we also must learn to accept its existence in front of our eyes. How are we supposed to learn if there is nothing to witness about out there? I know the Qur'an says it's shirk to devote onself to idolism, but it also commands us to travel and see the ruins of former cities, societies, lands etc., to learn from the past. NISIS didn't care of this, well, they also went as far as exploding a prophets grave, due to some ignorants of our Ummah decided to make ibadah there. Whas that right? So it's no excuse to destroy ancient artifacts, in stupid paranoia. have a nice eveneing all

[@microgangster]

Great question

[@d.camara1147]

A Tawagheet scholar's nightmare.

[@OmarAlikaj]

I believe that early Muslims only destroyed idols linked to their immediate ancestors, especially in and around the Kaaba.

[@realhami]

Sheikh is based.

[@Nuss-j4s]

so, was it okay for NISIS to destroy those artifacts? and if not, why not, when the prophet pbuh did the same in Mecca?

[@Ungehorsam]

You heard the man, he said these actions are "weird" and that "all what isis does is wrong" so it must have been bad lmao.

[@gokix2243]

Whats so unislamic about destroying idols?😂😂

[@Halal_Dan]

Their actions in general are unislamic

[@gokix2243]

Name few

[@1.N.Decent]

​@@gokix2243Just expand on the thing you already said above.

[@gokix2243]

Your point?

[@1.N.Decent]

​@@gokix2243Please expand the subject in your own question. The subject is "destroying idols". Expand that.

[@speemus6223]

plus there are still people using it at the time, so yeh why make conflict yknow let them be and may Allah guide them which they eventually did, and the idols were left unused by any group.

[@sedridorIsLost]

abraham peace be upon him destroyed idols that his people were actively praying to. do you wish for corruption in the lands?

[@Ungehorsam]

How is destroying idols against Islam, mister Shaykh?

[@shaharia1591]

Khilafah will prevail oneday again... insha Allah

[@sudhanvahs9173]

@@shaharia1591 🤣

[@shaharia1591]

@@sudhanvahs9173 why are you crying pajeet

[@SammyaChandraMisra-ni7xd]

@@shaharia1591 It will never happen and you know that

[@hsgs865]

@@SammyaChandraMisra-ni7xd this already happened in 2014 rеtаrd

[@CraftedVision]

I think you people need some very clear definitions here. A stature that you worship as if it were a god - that is an idol. We should not have that. Some statue that has not been worshipped by anyone in hundreds, if not thousands of years - that is an artefact, something for a museum, something that can tell us about a civilisation in the past. These two things are not the same. Here is an example to make it nice and clear for you: "Hey Bob, I found this statue. This statue is the god Blah-blah-blah, and I'm going to worship it, because I believe in this god and I want this god to bless and reward me." - That's an idol. "Hey Bob, I found this statue. This statue is of the god Blah-blah-blah, who people in a very ancient civilisation used to worship because they thought x-y-z. I don't believe in it. It has no power. It is a hunk of rock in the shape of something. But I'm going to study it because it will tell me about that ancient civilisation, and then I'm going to put it in the museum." - Not an idol. Back in the time of the prophet, they removed all of the idols from the holy mesjid and the holy city, and destroyed them, to stop people actively worshipping them. He was performing a MASSIVE change to the culture of the power, overnight. That requires drastic measures. BUT, in the time of the Prophet (pbuh), he knew of many huge statues and holy sites. He could have commanded his followers to take to them with hammer and chisel until there was nothing left, but he did not - why? Because Islam is not afraid of old statues. Just like he did not command his followers to travel to far away lands and destroy their churches and temples and statues of all of the other religions of the world. Just you worry about YOU and you leave everyone else's stuff alone. Quickest way to cause hate, is to attack someone's "holy" places and things. Whether WE think they are holy or not, is 100% irrelevant.

[@acespades9286]

No any image is haram. Even a simple photograph in a house. The angles don’t enter homes with lmages

[@MassDefeq]

Is building statues forbidden in Islam, is it haram, something that a non believer would do?

[@DBZruto]

@@MassDefeq building statues is haram, yes.

[@MassDefeq]

@@DBZruto Hi i thank you for answering but i am really confused now because that would mean that Solomon was a non believer, because he built statues or if he was allowed to build statues then we have a contradiction. Quran 34:13 They made for him what he willed: synagogues and statues, basins like wells and boilers built into the ground. Give thanks, O House of David! Few of My bondmen are thankful.

[@k.p.m900]

There were some things that were allowed in the past that were forbidden later. Such as bowing and interacting with Jinn. As in the times of Yousef (AS) and sulyman (AS). Not sure about statues though.

[@WalkingTowardsEnd]

​@@MassDefeq No, there's no contradiction here... The thing is Previous prophets were sent for only a period of time and for a specific nation, so their law was only for a limited time. But Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) Was sent with a message that is valid till the day of judgment, and The Law which is called Shari'ah is also valid from the time of the Prophet till the day of judgment. For example, A Man was allowed to have more than four wives but when the revelation came to the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) It was reduced to only 4.

[@dr_nyt4041]

​@@MassDefeq Before you could also have more than 4 wives, but now you can't. The current islam is for the ummah of Prophet Muhammad PBUH. Also children toys are not prohibited if you include them in statues, but in general statues should be avoided, especially those meant for spiritual purposes.

[@communistparty-zs2ts]

In my opinion idolizing a statue is more worse than the holocaust itself

[@AbdAllah_54564]

Even a commie understands Tawheed bruv...

[@pellesvansl]

heh

[@Ungehorsam]

Yes. Keep going.

[@moijesuis134]

Stop this If all of you want to make a difference make it here in our world We built it and we will improvit more Whatever we found after life we will face it together

[@dataman618]

What is nisis?

[@ah.1190]

@@dataman618 The non-Islamic State

[@dataman618]

@@ah.1190 I prefer both

[@carlgunther896]

Dont forget that turkey let isis fighters cross their borders, hospilitized them and freed over 10.000 isis fighters from kurdish prisons with the help of syrian rebels by attacking the kurds after us troops backed up and dont forget that turkey bought 3.000 barrels of oil everyday from isis. Pls dont forget this, as they helped the khawarij.

[@Ungehorsam]

That is fake man. Turkey literally had battles against ISIS, had her soldiers captured by ISIS and then burned alive lmao

[@julianhermanubis6800]

This is why we need secular governments because when you have a theocracy, you have no respect for historical artifacts. The destruction at Palmyra, for example, was a tragedy for the entire world because of the loss of the history there and not just for the Syrian people.

[@phoenixknight8837]

Not true. Secular governments have a long history of destroying and plundering historical artifacts. Colonial governments and 20th and 21st Century war mongering nations (democracies) as well as Communist dictatorships have long been destructive and disrespectful to human archaeological heritage.

[@Gabriel-ServantOfGod]

We should first destroy the internal shirk, grave worship, taking the sheikhs as Lords besides Allah, idolizing the Prophet alaihi salam, etc etc etc... Then the physical idols won't even be idols, if nobody takes them as such, they can't talk to convince you anyways... they are just rocks, kissing them won't give any blessings...

[@TheRealSkulldozer]

Cry about it theyre real mumineen

[@fevad1246]

I don't know what "NISIS" even is but essentially the question is if others destroyed idols then why didnt early muslims. THis got me wondering though... like sure there were very less muslims but what about the time of ibrahim when he single handedly by himself destoyed all the idols of the town when they were gone. Then ultimately Allah swt saved him from huge fire. Surely Allah swt would have protected early muslims too if they directly destroy the idols. why wait very long time till Prophet muhammed(saw) ultimately had a army marching towards makkah back?

[@randomlygeneratedname7171]

Because his people were already being persecuted. Not a good idea.

[@GiganticMythicalSpaceFishWhale]

Ya syeìkh, if you doesn't know, just say you doesn't know. I will ànswèr it for you. Because thosè stàtuès àre not cònsìdèrèd an ìdòls by thè eàrly muslim schòlàrs. Those are just hìstòrìcàl strùctùrès, and no ònè wòrshìp them. Their vàluè is for hìstòrìcàl stùdy, not anywhere rèlìgiòus. So they stùdy it and lèft them as it is, in à mùseùm, not in à shrìne. Às someòne who like to stùdy àrchèològy, i reàlly dìslìke them for dèstròyìng ìmpòrtànt àrchèològìcàl fìndìngs. Bràinlèss shìts.

[@Youssef-x9z]

Do you have any quote from early muslim scholars proving that?

[@hamza2038]

This is not true. They didn't destroy the idols because they were buried. Otherwise the idols would have been destroyed long time ago

[@GiganticMythicalSpaceFishWhale]

😮‍💨 Reàlly, àrè you gùys stùpìd? If they dò, why did you thìnk there àrè still those gìgàntìc stàtuès òn ègypt and àroùnd mèdìtèràneàn seà? They've beèn there sìncè fòrèvèr. Allah shòws ùs the bùrièd stàtuès in mòdèrn àge bècaùse there ìs no ònè who wòrshìp them anymore, and it should be à wày for us to leàrn about thè dìstàncè pàst, and pròvè The Qur'an throùgh àrchèològìcàl èvìdèncè and scièncè. Fòr fùckìng reàl, tèxtuàl mèthòd neèd to be òblìtèràtèd. Nò wòndèr The Màhdì would wàgè wàr àgaìnst the àràb fìrst, it's thè cèntèr of ìdiòcy.

[@lovkushkumar]

It should be protected as they r now archeological importance. No need to pray or use it in religion.

[@hakim1917q8]

He didn't even answer the question

[@3aloosh623]

r u deaf

[@thereuniter]

1 - Muslim (969) narrated that Abu’l-Hayaaj al-Asadi said: ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib said to me: “Shall I not send you with the same instructions as the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sent me? ‘Do not leave any image without defacing it or any built-up grave without leveling it.’” 2 - Muslim (832) narrated from ‘Urwah ibn ‘Abasah that he said to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “With what were you sent?” He said, “I was sent to uphold the ties of kinship, to break the idols, and so that Allaah would be worshipped alone with no partner or associate.” The obligation to destroy them is even stronger if they are worshipped instead of Allaah. 3 - al-Bukhaari (3020) and Muslim (2476) narrated that Jareer ibn ‘Abd-Allaah al-Bajali said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to me: “O Jareer, will you not relieve me of Dhu’l-Khalsah?” That was a house (in Yemen) belonging to the (tribe of) Khath’am, which was called Ka’bat al-Yamaaniyyah. I set out with one hundred and fifty horsemen. I used not to sit firm on horses and I mentioned that to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He struck me on my chest with his hand and said, 'O Allaah! Make him firm and make him one who guides others and is guided on the right path.' " So Jareer went and burned it with fire, then Jareer sent a man called Abu Artaat to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He said, “I did not come to you until we had left it like a scabby camel.” Then the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) blessed the horses of (the tribe of) Ahmas and their men five times. Al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar said: This hadeeth indicates that it is prescribed to remove things that may tempt or confuse the people, whether they are buildings, people, animals or inanimate objects.

[@d.camara1147]

Yea he gave the most ridiculous unrelated answer ever. But what do you expect from a tawagheet schola?

[@hakim1917q8]

@@3aloosh623 He didn't tell us why Muslims didn't do it, he only told us "WE DONT TAKE NISIS AS BENCHMARK" just because they do something doesn't mean that we don't do it

[@aar8808]

@@hakim1917q8 Greed. Greed is not kufr.

[@Charlie-502]

I don't believe we should destroy historical artifacts.

[@ledam2654]

There are vases, buildings, bones, etc, that are historical artifacts that DON'T involve shirk.

[@Charlie-502]

@@ledam2654 we don't have to worship them

[@kaissondmitrijev1044]

@@Charlie-502 But what's the benefit of them?

[@Kaliphate]

​@@kaissondmitrijev1044 understand the ignorance of past civilizations. If you don't, you are doomed to repeat it.

[@kaissondmitrijev1044]

@@Kaliphate Only people with knowledge look at the past to analyze it and learn from it. Most people look at the past with nostalgia and idealize it.

[@firavv]

Wrong answer, Sheikh. The Muslims had the means to destroy the idols, but the idols were only discovered by archaeologists so how would Muslims even be able to destroy something that is buried below the ground? I$I$ is a Khariji organization, its not like Muslims protected these idols

[@irfanhakimi7172]

What part of the answer is wrong? Sheikh clearly said at the very beginning the reason the muslims at the time didn't destroy the statue is because they don't have the means to. Meaning they're unable to do it. It's a board statement but it answers the question. The rest of the answer is Sheikh explaining to the questioner that we shouldn't take anything from a terrorist group and end it with a further example to clarify to the questioner that there are many things that could hinder the Muslims from destroying the statue. The Sheikh answered the question broadly at first because he wants people to understand the situation that Muslims can't always destroy statues etc due to hindrance. If he were to answer specifically then the questioner and people would have questions every other statue that hadn't been destroyed by muslims

[@ebrahimi44]

Monuments aren't buried underground they are huge structures like the sphinx and very hard to destroy them. You must respect the people of knowledge, instead of saying" Sheikh you are wrong" you should have just stated your own opinion which in fact is totally wrong anyways.

[@firavv]

@@irfanhakimi7172 dude, you didn't even read my answer and already assumed I am defending those terrorists. Sheikh gave a logical answer, but he was wrong on why the Muslims didn't destroy the idols. Read my comment

[@firavv]

@@ebrahimi44 are we talking about the Sphinx that I$ destroyed? They destroyed some idols in museums in Iraq that were INDEED discovered by archaeologists

[@Frietoe]

If they weren’t able to do something that’s literally the definition of they didn’t have the means to

[@aldeen9190]

Adrijan is christian name I am from Serbia I know.

[@flansable]

@@aldeen9190 we don’t expect people to change their names when they convert

[@aldeen9190]

@@flansable My point is he is prob christian still

[@icelolly4277]

​@@aldeen9190That's okay. Maybe he just wanted to get an answer.

[@taimurahmad]

He converted to islaam

[@nosmokejazwinski6297]

Well, technically speaking, Adrijan (aka Adrian) is not a Christian name. It’s originally a Greek name which isn’t related to any religion, it just means “rich man”. This name can also be found among Balkan Muslims like Albanians and Bosniaks. But yes, in this case the Adrijan in question is probably a Christian.

[@adriankoh4859]

Through out history all most any religion destroyed many idols. But people hold on to their gods and beliefs to other lands to escape criticism. Just look at Egypt gods, now half dead because there are new gods now. So what's the point of religion if it just keeps getting replaced?