Nissan X-Trail e-Power e-4orce 1000 km challenge (reference test)

[@0-Will-0]

Seeing Bjorn fill up a car with fossill juice is like watching Santa stealing presents from under the tree.

[@Te0gop]

It's very funny how surprised he is when he opens the door for 28254th time and still comments what he sees inside, like for a 1st time 😂

[@martinweston8147]

Nice flat charging curve from that pump 😀

[@verboseEV]

Good reference point, in reality very few people drive like this (but a lot claims to do so). I got asked a lot about my charing time by fossil drivers already being parked, I tell them its about 20-30 min they say oh that is slow... and when I leave 25 min later they are still there... Like you said everything under 10h is perfectly viable for 99%.

[@cristianmanfredini]

There's a small refuelling station not far from a friend's house which have very compelling prices. Long story short, more often than not this refuelling station is crawling with people waiting in line to refill their car, and they can wait more than 20 minutes to do so - I know because I did a couple of time to save some money (and a lot of time I've found it to be out of petrol/gasoline). If time was so important as a lot of people claim, the other refuelling station located 30 seconds away on the same road wouldn't be completely empty when there's a line there just to save 3€ for a refill. So I think a 10-15 minutes charging session is absolutely okay for the majority of people, but they fail to realise so.

[@Cornelius87]

I think more important than the time saved with ice cars is just the freedom and possibility to do so. With EVs you're stuck at a certain stop until you have enough juice to reach the next one, with ice you can spend an hour at the gas station but that's by choice not need. You can also stop at whatever restaurant or rest stop without having to worry if there's a charging station around. People just like options.

[@azureactivedirectory]

It’s funny how when it comes to comparing to EVs, every fossil car driver suddenly turns into absolute robots that doesn’t need any resting on long trips

[@djtaylorutube]

​@@cristianmanfredini I've just done 350 miles today, 6 hours 40 mins. Three charges, 12 mins, 11 mins, 7 mins. 30 mins charge (loo opportunities) in that overall journey didn't seem to be an issue for us.

[@djtaylorutube]

​@@azureactivedirectory Yes, in the UK, an EV isn't possibly viable until they can do the standard daily commute which is from Land's End to John O'Groats, some 800 miles or so. This needs to be done both ways, non stop, towing a caravan, in under 20 hours and it's uphill both ways.

[@FriesenRudi]

Hey Bjørn. I own this car and had exactly the same issue. Gas consumption was much to high. After i complained that to Nissan i got some software Updates that reduced the fuel consumption for 120 km/h to about 7.9 Liters. I guess they had a software issue with the first charge of cars.

[@anderssunegard356]

Very interesting! If generally repeatable, I think such an improvement would change the game for many. For me it would.

[@zdruj1994]

08:10 one of the rarest things that could be seen in the world: Bjorn refueling a fossil car 😂😂😂

[@boni1970]

Before 3 years I had Opel Ampera 2012 ( Chevy Volt) with this system (generator) , but with 16KWH battery (10kwh) usable and 50-70km full electric range....So this Nissan with 2.1Kwh battery is strange:))

[@vipvip-tf9rw]

it's normal for hybrid, it's probably not li on battery

[@antoniocirino8444]

The problem is the 2 kWh battery, it is not sufficient. The motor will be engaged much more frequently and at high power (higher rpm with less efficiency).

[@SupremeRuleroftheWorld]

the 2.1kWh is just to pass certain regulations around the minium distance hybrids need to be able to drive on the electric motor only. before those laws you could buy a porsche "electric" that could not drive out of the parking spot without using the fossil engine.

[@MrPaukann]

@@antoniocirino8444, it's sufficient for city stop and go traffic, which is its purpose.

[@timogronroos4642]

You are comparing plug-in hybrid with normal hybrid. There would be no sense in having 10kWh battery in a non-plug-in hybrid

[@poxer1]

Such dedication. Driving 1000kms is crazy. I would not drive that much every week

[@jeanmiegoiste]

You probably should try something like a Diesel Skoda Octavia. That is very very efficient. It may be able to demonstrate how useless are Hybrid car, especially for long trips. Now EV can deal with almost every need. And the complexity of the drive train is going to be a mess for maintenance.

[@FSXgta]

Yeah I get 0.5l consumtion doing 100 kmh, and thats with studded tires

[@oddhv7688]

This is not a typical hybrid. I agree this hybrid tech is usless, but if you look at toyota hybrid cars compared to this one for example. They use around half of this cars consumption.

[@marcg1686]

For long trips a diesel will return very good consumption numbers. City driving is something else though. My 2010 Prius blows anything else of comparable size out of the water. No turbocharger, no direct injection, no diesel injectors that are difficult to replace. Simple petrol, port injection and a bit of electricity.

[@GoldenCroc]

​​@@oddhv7688 They dont, not even close. Maybe 10% better, if that. You are comparing to a lower average speed or other body type for sure for the Toyota if its "half".

[@ernokerekes1063]

A hybrid car's co2 emission is far less than a diesel car at least half of it.

[@drphilphil1]

Björn, this channel deserves all the love in the world. Such a comprehensive collection of information is invaluable. I often enjoy just watching your videos, best mix of entertainment and information 🙂

[@tobias_dahlberg]

This is stupid. My 2008 Volvo V70 wagon burns less dead dinosaurs than this thing. When on roadtrips I can get the 2.4 NA 5-cylinder to do about 6-7L/100km, in the city it goes up to like 9-11L/100km. That's an old wagon with a five cylinder engine. It also has a 70L tank so I can go about 1000km when driving on country roads on a single tank. Highway a little less, maybe 800-900km. + it's an old car, better for the environment than this thing that needs to be manufactured. The longer I drive my car, the less environmentally bad it is. Lifecycle usage is very important. I will get an EV when this thing dies though. But it doesn't want to die, just keeps chugging along.

[@xmtxx]

Wait? You telling me, that they put an ICE, connected to a generator, which is an electric motor, which charge batteries, which provide power to another electric motor? You'll have around 30% loss with that + added wieght. It doesn't make any sense, unless this car was made by marketing people, not engineer. Edit: OMG, it has a 1.5kWh battery. This is getting ridiculous...

[@enovozhilov]

ICE efficiency isn’t linear thus if you have non-CVT trans then ICE might operate in inefficient mode depending on RPM, so such engines have modified ECU map to work at the most efficient RPMs. But in general Toyota’s HSD makes more sense, but it’s patented.

[@DG-uv3zw]

Exactly 😂

[@xmtxx]

@@enovozhilov Wait. Planetary gears are patented? FFS...

[@markil]

Thats why the consumption is so f** high. I have an 220xd gran tourer from bmw and travel on the autostrada in italy at 150kmh and having only 7.5l/100km. This nissan is extrem inefficent

[@simond7582]

touches the fuel cap, sniffs his fingers.....ah shit 😂😂😂

[@t.d.5804]

will do 1300km tomorrow from Germany to France and back the next day, again 1300km, in a Model 3. So yes, long drives through the EU are quite common for us. But easy using the SuC network. Theres a SuC, hotel and big supermarket at the destination, perfect.

[@evgeniyrogulev7716]

Same consumption and range on T31 2.5L petrol 2008. Epower nice for city, not for long rides. Norway roads are owesome.

[@rubenbraekman4515]

That fuel consumption is so bad 😂 worse than a 20 year old french car lmao!

[@arnisan2010]

I have e-power but newer drive in STANDARD mode bec no regen to the battery. Use ECO och at least use B-mode for high way.

[@samueld6511]

No Bjorn! You have to redo the test with PURE DIESEL😂

[@you2be839]

Absolutely, still waiting for that one...

[@Martinko_Pcik]

E-power is less efficient than Toyota hybrid parallel hybrid. It is stupid to lose energy from ICE in all generator + inverter+ motor since it pretty much matches loses in transmission. In addition chosen 1.5l engine doesn't seem very efficient. On a plus side, regenerative breaking is powerful thanks to 140kW motor. But 2kWh battery will not absorb much. I am guessing it is a good city car, but terrible 1000km challenge car from the consumption point of view.

[@jacekdarocha7054]

Personally, I own the hybrid Camry '21. On normal roads, my average fuel consumption is 4.2 liters per 100 kilometers. On the highway at 120 km/h, it takes around 5.4 liters per 100 kilometers. I would be interested in seeing a test of this vehicle by you and your comment

[@savedfaves]

4.2 L per 100 Km = 56 U.S. mpg / 67 UK mpg

[@roodick85]

My Honda Clarity has the same efficiency as well even with my bikes on the back.

[@RobertBrienza]

I'm was interested to see the real world efficiency of this car. I currently own a 2021 Rav4 hybrid and get around 6.0L/100km driving around our part of New Zealand which includes going over some big hill/mountain ranges at faster speeds so not sure if this e-Power solution would be any better. The interior looks nicer/more modern than the Rav4 but not sure it's worth the extra costs, at least here in NZ.

[@vipvip-tf9rw]

does rav4 have soft suspension? And RAV4 is cheap toyota, lexus, and venza have better interior, I'm thinking of buying latest RAV4

[@RobertBrienza]

@@vipvip-tf9rw I find the Rav4's ride to be pretty good. It's not stiff by any means but we drive some pretty twisty roads in our part of NZ and the Rav4 does a good job of feeling composed. The interior is okay - it doesn't feel too cheap but it's not fancy, it gets the job done which is what we need.

[@etnelav]

Similar to this video, I have doubts about the reporting of rav4 stats. Have you ever checked against how much fuel you put in and compared it to distance reported on gps? It just doesnt make sense that a car with a horrible drag coefficient can somehow cheat laws of physics. toyota doesnt have any special breaking regen technology that would put them that far ahead.

[@RobertBrienza]

@@etnelav I haven't done any tests to check if the fuel economy figure but I know since we've had the Rav4, we fill up way less compared to our other cars and our diving patterns are pretty consistent. I mean Toyota claims I should be getting 5.3L/100km and I've not hit that mark. I think 5.8L/100km is the lowest I got with just in town driving. Given the types of roads we drive and the distance covered, it doesn't seem like I'm being lied to. I know if we're just in town it sips fuel. I just think the Rav4 hybrid is pretty good at using the electric motors to deal with start/stop driving and assisting in general. I mean maybe it helps that this thing can't launch like an EV, so it's not wasting energy on performance and it's all about efficiency. I know that some other reviewers have for the Rav4 hybrid down to the low 5L/100km in urban driving (these were AUS and NZ reviewers - separate instances). I think you need to be really careful with your driving to hit that (which I am not).

[@GoldenCroc]

Very nice, but the RAV4 wont get 6l/100km with the driving profile and fuel bjorn used. 9l at best maybe. Very maybe.

[@AndrewClelland]

I concur.. I have driven the Malmö-Oslo return trip a few times for work. Best run I did was with two drivers, so rest breaks were short, although we did stop for lunch, was 6hrs each way (for context, Helsingborg is approx 45mins North of Malmö). Made it there and back on one tank using a 2011 BMW 318d. So fuelling was not the issue.. the traffic and organic thing behind the wheel was 😜

[@HifkHockeyPASM91]

Yeah, I mean in energy a normal fuel pump would convert to a 21600kW charger.... 56l = 560 kWh "charges" in 1,5 minutes :D As reference if a ev would have a 100 kWh battery bank and we would assume the charging would be done from 0-100 SoC it would require 4 mW charging without a performance drop.

[@PenkoAngelov]

Driving such a long distance without stopping is seriously dangerous! Most of the traffic accidents happen because of tired or distracted drivers. Fossil-heads pride themselves for driving non-stop... but realistically speaking rarely someone does that. People need 15-20 min of rest every once in a while or they'll endanger themselves or their family. Driving non-stop is unnecessary stressful. EVs already provide little time for rest on the road... less than that is becoming dangerous. ICE could definitely be faster but you waste so much finite resources in the process... inefficiently.

[@alittlebitmoore]

That consumption is bad, we have a X Trail from 2017 with the 1.6 petrol engine and manual gearbox (2WD) and that does an easy 7lt/100km on motorways.

[@antoniocirino8444]

Diesel-electric powertrain will work at high efficiency when the diesel generator has an high efficiency (naval diesel motors has something about 50% at very low rpm). Than you have to add the efficiency of generator (0.8) and the motors (0.8). The nissan engine can achieve 0.3 of efficiency. The result is near 20% of efficiency. Really bad. Is much more efficient the toyota hybrid system.

[@cristianmorar5558]

I think Nissan did the stupidest thing in auto industry, period...you have to do the maintenance for two cars ev + ice & it is over 1.9 tons, bad number

[@muzzakehurst7220]

I rented a polestar2 to drive from Adelaide to Sydney for Fully Charged Live. It is a 1400 km drive, and I took the inland route across the Hay plain using NRMA 50 kw and Evie 350 kw public fast chargers. I had no problems with the chargers, and the lowest I got was 13% with 70 km range remaining. It took exactly 24 hours in each direction stopping only to recharge and food and toilet breaks, mind you I was fairly tired when I reached my destination, but not dangerously so, due to naps when recharging. Goes to show, even in Australia you can drive long distances in an electric vehicle, as long as you plan your route. Cheers Bjorn.

[@Russo6996]

Really interesting, but the wrong car to test it in. This car is really good for city trips but not highway trips. I am not saying you are quicker with a diesel because you are not, but the consumption is lower. My 2016 Mercedes Avant C-Class 250 Diesel had a consumption of between 7.2 l/100 and 6.4 l/100. I had for a 1780km trip ca. 18h. with Kids and Wife. With my Tesla 3LR, I have 17 h. But i am more Relaxed driving. The downside is that at night, many of the Supercharger toilets are closed. But EV for the Win.😊

[@SwiftHDX]

I currently drive the same car (4Matic and 9G-Tronic). My 2016 740d had much better fuel economy in every situation, I don't think Mercedes are very efficient.

[@sorinneatu4471]

Trip durations look off to me. From personal experience, you can't beat the ICE time (18h) with a 3LR (17h).

[@Russo6996]

@@sorinneatu4471 Sorry, you are right it is the other way arround. Witch my Mercedes I was +- 1h quicker.

[@propergander8509]

Is “losing” 30 minutes to an hour on a 1000km trip really *that* unreasonable anymore? I mean… On trips that long, it’s likely you’ll take as much time as an EV driver anyway, since trips that long are usually holiday trips and the kids or the wife need to pee or stretch their legs like every 200km anyway! And if you time the pee breaks right, with the right car, you can easily get by with 10 minute charging stops every 200km. Realistically, unless you’re a traveling salesman like a friend of mine, long range travel is not really an argument against EVs anymore. The only inconvenience for me is local charging because not every hotel, holiday home or village you might find yourself in will have AC chargers. And often times, AC chargers are very poorly maintained and often blocked by locals who won’t move their car, once they’re done charging.

[@MrVurtan]

For me it's confusing, that you need to hold the gas pump while refueling. As Bjorn mentioned that in the past I wondered: What the heck is he talking about? In Germany you can "lock" it and it stops automatically which is much more convinient. I always believed that this would be the case in any country as well until that time.

[@davidmcclare443]

hi the e-power note uses vacuum boosted brakes so the engine runs whenever you use the brakes or the forward collision thinks that you might want to use the brakes and turning off the ventilation system results in much better fuel economy because it runs the motor un-necessarily just to get heat even if it is set for cooling and the form i got with the car stated 2.9L/100km and the best i could achieve was 4L/100km on car display

[@2kMario]

This car could be very nice with bigger battery ( 18-20kWh ) as a PHEV . Currently with high fuels consumption ( 3 people and some luggage -2'C 15L/100km ) it is pointels vehicle :)

[@danieljwoodhouse]

Seeing I'm getting rid of my EV (Hyundai Ioniq) for a petrol, due to spending my life at charge stations and the additional cost of food/coffee at each location and the weight I put on because of this, can I ask: 1) how much did it cost in fuel to do the 1000km test and how does that compare against an EV? 2) how much does the Xtrail cost and how would it compare against a similar costing EV?

[@danieljwoodhouse]

38Kwh

[@ProfessorHamer]

The 38kwh ioniq is not a good ev, simply because they cut the charging speed in half compared to the 28kwh to put in a that bigger battery, the 28kwh charges 10-80% in around 17-18 minutes, so similar to the newer ioniq 5. It actually performs quite well on Bjørn’s 1000 km test.

[@danieljwoodhouse]

Borrowed the Ioniq 5 when my car was in for further warranty work. It was better, but still only really delivered 200 miles on a full charge in winter. Mine delivers 115 miles in winter. Most of my journeys are around 240 miles, meaning two charges. Some trips are around 600 miles. This requires careful planning and the charging generally adds a further 4 hours to my day. My experience of EV ownership was good initially (2 years ago), even with the lack of charge points, but now with the average cost per kW being 79p, the costs are now compatible with fossil fuel. To give you an idea, I charged from 10% to 80% which the system stated gave me 125 miles (actual lower). It cost £19.71 and took 45 minites. We use our other car, a Hyundai Diesel 4x4, and drive 560 miles on holiday with a full car and roof box and it does it with £90 of diesel from empty, which took about 2-3 minutes to fill and only one stop. So, for not much more, I'm saving a lot of time, range anxiety, planning, panic about broken chargers (thank goodness for ZapMap), delays due to the damn cable not releasing from the car because the charger lost contact, less coffee / food purchases and reduced weight gain. I'm still interested to see how it compares, but there is no point in comparing a £40000 Xtrail to £95000 Tesla. I like how quiet and quick EVs are, but I'm concerned about how recyclable the battery is, how ethical the battery build is and what the longevity of the vehicle will be.

[@jaakkor.2963]

1) I counted from video it costed 1737,98 SEK ~ 153,81 EUR after 2 fill-ups but the total is missing last fill-up at the end. 2) In Finland the starting price for that X-Trail is 41 800 EUR

[@SteveLoughran]

i'd say you don't have to eat on every break -but as i can put on weight when cycling across the alps, I'm not in a position to do so. Coffee is always good when driving through

[@hankthetank185]

"Stone age driving", you made me laugh out loud Bjorn 🤣

[@ouch1011]

Series hybrids are awful for highway usage because they have to take the gasoline, burn it incredibly inefficiently in the ICE, use that to power a generator, rectify it and send it to the battery, then draw from the battery, run it through the inverter and use that to power the drive motors. Every form of energy conversion results in a loss. Using series hybrid makes some sense in a PHEV where you might be able to drive 30-40 miles in full electric mode because it typically leads to much better efficiency in electric mode, but it makes absolutely no sense in a hybrid with a micro-battery.

[@Wabisabix-ty6sp]

Great test, Bjorn. Thank you! One question: You drove 1000 km both in this X-Trail and Ariya. Which of the two cars was more comfort to drive this large distance?

[@ΣτέφανοςΚόκκαλης-τ1ν]

A good actual use for them would be as a generator for your house safe and reliable. With net metering and these electricity prices you actually make money. Move back to rural areas people.

[@cmdrviitanen]

Interesting how the dashboard screens of the X-trail are just like the Ariya. Center screen looks exactly the same and only small differences in the instrument screen behind the steering wheel.

[@febrianadji5758]

Not so efficient hybrid tho Rather get Prius even though it has potato acceleration

[@edgarsdzerins]

Getting Nissan X-Trail e-Power e-4orce next week. I like torque and e-pedal driving, but I don't want EV any more - I am fed up with slow charging, long waiting, hour long ques on weekends or sometimes broken charging stations.

[@ursfurer1145]

Obviously you don't waste any thought on the environment. Burning 10-20 tons of precious fossil fuel irretrievably in a car's lifetime is of course much smarter than being able to recycle over 95% of a 500 kg battery.

[@edgarsdzerins]

@@ursfurer1145 EV production and recycling is 1000X more toxic than fossil fuel! Educate yourself!

[@EVMan298]

@@edgarsdzerins multiple citations required

[@Roll_the_Bones]

I may possibly not be the first to mention it, but this technology (excluding the battery) goes back to Ferdinand Porche (yes, him), who designed several heavy tanks in early 1940's using ICE engines powering a generator to drive electric motors. It avoided many transmission issues, which were weak points at the time. The main reason development didn't proceed on the electric Tiger(P) was that the limited supply of copper for the motors was better used elsewhere (U-boat motors, other electriical cabling, etc.).

[@darrenmorgan5849]

Our Skoda Kodiaq with the 2L 132kw 320nm with 7spd DSG averages 7.3-7.6 on long journeys with the climate control set at 21 degrees C, and runs on 95 fuel in the Australian hot summer where it can be 38-44C outside. Cannot believe why the fuel consumption is just so ridiculously so high! Though that this idea would have been a great compromise, but obviously it doesn’t work in the real world. Thanks for another great informative video Bjorn. I’d suggest a Skoda Kodiaq as another option for an ICE vehicle test. 👌👍

[@Wasssup3232]

Nissans HATE to be cold during driving. My 2020 Nissan Sentra (US gas only model) went from getting 40-50 MPG at 70 mph during summer to around 30 in winter

[@marcinsowul2532]

Don't compare that to steady long range run with 110-120 km/h. But to be honest, consumption in my Mazda CX-5 2.0 AT AWD is around 8-8,5l/100km with avg speed. 120 km/h and 9-9,5l/100km with avg. 140 km/h

[@testi2025]

My last ICE was an Audi A6 with small Diesel engine. On long trips I was able to go 1100km with one tank (62L). But not with the speeds driven on this video.

[@jasonriddell]

GM with the "voltec" system in the Ampera/Volt has a ICE to wheels connection for MOTORWAYS driving to improve efficacy as the series hybrid is NOT efficient at constant high load cycles

[@GoldenCroc]

Not really ridiculous for the body type and engine. Its got a lot of aerodynamic drag. Your Kodiaq comparison isnt apples to apples, simply put.

[@SwiftHDX]

That fuel consumption is so bad. Could you try a modern diesel on one of these tests? One that can easily do 1000km on a tank of fuel with a higher average speed than that? I think that would then be a realistic benchmark to set for EVs to get close to.

[@davidz1264]

What car do you have in mind? 🤔

[@tommesob5099]

@@davidz1264 Skoda Octavia, BMW 320D, Mercedes C220D for example all easy do 1000+km with 1 tank at 120kmh

[@davidz1264]

@@tommesob5099 Thanks. I have no more clue about fossil cars, but it would be nice to know, what time the BEV have to catch to be equal to fossils (in terms of time/km). Not that it is necessary to be equal, but it's nice to know 😎

[@Blasterxp]

Price per kilometer! That what i want to know

[@muzzakehurst7220]

My daily drive is a 2013 Holden (Chevy) Volt which I bought for one third of the new price, it uses 4.5 to 5.5 litres per 100km in hybrid ice mode, but I do over 90% of my driving on fully electric. I charge it off my solar panels and powerwall 2 for free, and it has a lifetime average consumption of 1.7 litres per 100 km in 147,000 km. I live in South Australia so lots of sunshine most of the year. Works for me!

[@georgepelton5645]

Great job Bjørn setting a new speed standard for 1000 km challenge. I would not drive like this, so thanks for sacrificing yourself for science to get this result. I would take at least the 9:00 hours you did in the Kia Creed PHEV doing 1000 km in real life. Probably 10:00 or even 11:00 if traveling with my wife. 😂. I am glad you took a rest break as that was the smart thing to do. No need to literally sacrifice yourself or others to get a good scientific test.

[@koomaj]

It'll blow my mind if even a one person buys this thing in Norway.

[@you2be839]

There's currently a dozen of them for sale in the biggest online car sale website in my country, all used and still going for about +€45.000! So I guess there's always some BIG SUCKAS out there somewhere!!...

[@frankelf3151]

This test is like comparing the most efficient EV vs one of the least efficient ICE. I'm all for EVs but we have to be real ICE does longer journeys a lot quicker.

[@jasonriddell]

the ICE was average for RANGE and required 1 1/2 pit stops so on point for a "ICE" basepoint

[@you2be839]

ICE does longer journeys a lot quicker, but they really need to be long journeys, +1000km, but that also requires more than one driver too!

[@tonyhowell5283]

got 20 miles on mine now - driving like an old man round town Im getting 43MPG

[@PurpKing4377]

so cool i wondered if you was gonna run a reference test every year to keep shit updated and here it is nice

[@jasonriddell]

why if the route / road conditions don't change could see redoing the "older" EV tests as charging networks have FAR improved

[@pasiturpeinen5327]

Just drove my Subaru Forester 2.0 gasoline engine 1300 km in 18 hours time with AVG speed 85km/h with consumption of 7,4 l per 100km in Finnish winter Weather…hmm Nissan consumption makes no Sense to me! I have studded Nokia winter tyres…

[@christophlindinger2267]

The fuel consumption is crazy high.

[@rui569]

So, ICE cars don't do the claimed range in a tank! Who had thought that!!

[@rockfosg]

Stupid high consmption for a -23 model year car. Any car ive owned ranging from -89 corolla, a -08 civic hybrid and my current -18 1.5 litre dsg vw would use less than this. And for most people a Mercedes eqc(?) Is way out of reach price wise. Its a nice car, but 1.3 million NOK is not feasible for most people. So kona/leaf/id(x), and so on it is. Hope the id7 can be the joker, 700km/650k🤷 its predecessor the passat wasent cheap either..

[@bruisepristine69]

Are you doing the mg4 in Norway anytime soon?

[@waaghals]

I know this is outside your niche, but I would be interested in seeing how a massive German diesel luxobarge (like the 3 liter 7-series) would do in this test. There are some videos on youtube suggesting extreme highway driving range. I have to admit it probably would`t be useful as a base, but it would be fun. This Nissan reported a range at start of under 700km, and that is not exactly state of the art.

[@rubenbraekman4515]

That would just do it on one tank and at average speed without traffic 😂

[@GoldenCroc]

About 6l/100km and no need to stop at all for the cars sake.

[@TBasianeyes]

75L tank with 6L/100km fuel consumption - no challenge at all.

[@TheCoBBus]

That fuel consumption is just horrible! I drive a Passat GTE and on a 120kmp drive I have a consumption of of 7.2l/100km and in optimal conditions its a bit under 7l/100km This car seems to be just horrible Edit: And this is the same in winter -20C or summer +20C with climate control on at 21-22... I am also able to drive 30km with electricity with 90% charge and no AC with average consumption of 16kwh/100km

[@you2be839]

Bjorn, you still need to try and do the 1000 km challenge with a recent diesel car that's smaller, more aerodynamic and efficient than this Nissan, and capable of doing 1000km non-stop! And yes, you're going to have to try to do it non-stop, because that's what ICE enthusiasts claim as a huge advantage over EVs, so I'm afraid you're going to have to pee while driving... so bring a bottle, The Sun will love it!!... haha

[@pierrevanhalteren5733]

I have a turbo diesel passat and holiday home 950 km away in south of France (starting point Luxembourg). Trip usually lasts 8,5 hours if no traffic jam driving at a steady 135 km/h to avoid (too expensive) speeding tickets. At this speed consumption is 5,8l/km depending on wind and temp. No need for refueling stop at all. Tank is 65 liters. We do this trip very often and do mind the possibility to do it in short period of time. We see the electric cars that would replace those efficient machines (vw passat) in no less than 5-10 years from now.

[@ursfurer1145]

Obviously you don't waste any thought on the environment. Burning 10-20 tons of precious fossil fuel irretrievably in a car's lifetime is of course much smarter than being able to recycle over 95% of a 500 kg battery.

[@emil10139]

Are you driving for almost 9 hours without a stop? Really? Isn´t it dangerous for you and for the others drivers on the road?

[@pierrevanhalteren5733]

@@emil10139 we do stop around twice for a quick coffee but no more than 5-10 minutes as we drink the coffee while driving.

[@pierrevanhalteren5733]

@@ursfurer1145 I note that climate change sort of reduces my heating bills and reduces the need to go far south to find mild climate.

[@GoldenCroc]

​@@ursfurer1145 Welcome to the real world. I am quite sure the average nothern european that owns an EV consumes a lot more resources and uses more fuel than the ones with ICE cars. Ever heard of flying to a holiday destination? Let the one without sin throw the first stone...

[@timstruppi7897]

I was interested in the x-Trail e-power concept, same car as upcoming Outlander, did a great test drive in Quashkai last year, but then I found out I cannot preheat and precool the car like any other electric Nissan by App or timer so I dumped it. Maybe 2024 version can do? Bjorn, next time use the hook in the gas pistol which saves you another 3+3 minutes.

[@TekinBozbey]

Fastest charge, 3 min. from 0 to 100 percent, world record. No electric vehicle will beat this at least till 2040

[@shaditips]

11L to 100Km on highway is tooooooo much 💔

[@MortenB0]

Good time, but of course not possible to do this unless you are alone, no wife will accept so few stop's and I have not mention kids

[@GoldenCroc]

Consumption is as expected, its a fumction of the high aerodynamic drag of the body type at these speeds. Other similar cars with petrol engines wont be a lot better at all. 10 percent or so maybe. Only way to get down to maybe 6-7 l/100km in the best case or a bit more would be to use a diesel.

[@iappsdev]

Thanks for review, I was thinking to buy this car but now I don't see the reason to change my Eclipse Cross 4WD 1,5T to hybrid because it eats the same 10,5-10,7 on the winter time and on the summer 9,1-9,5L per 100km

[@EPicurux]

all in all, a poor implementation of what would be the correct configuration for a (plug-in) hybrid

[@olaf4559]

Should have done it with the Toyota Rav4, it has a waaaaaaaaay better consumption

[@matthewlibanio8227]

Still think the 2016-2019 Chevrolet Volt concept is the best of all for PHEV's, especially the 2019 which had the 7.2kw charging speed. Excellent performance and exceptional fuel economy. This Nissan though is quite interesting and if you drive at slower speeds, it could probably pull off some outstanding numbers. Those conditions were pretty dreadful when you look at the chart. The top performers all had ideal conditions. Test this Nissan out in the summer and I think an easy 30-45 minutes could be deducted. The drag in that weather Bjorn drove through was probably very high for a vehicle that isn't shaped to cheat the wind well. Nice video Bjorn as always

[@georgepelton5645]

I second your comment about the Chevy Volt. I owned two of them and really enjoyed my time with both. The only things needed to make them perfect was a heated steering wheel and 7.2 kW charger. The 2019 had both, but instead of buying a third Volt I bought a 2018 Tesla Model 3 instead. That was a much bigger upgrade than a 2019 Volt would have been.

[@JK-gv1dp]

Take 1.9 tdi Passat b5 but don't drink- you'll get the best time (no fuel and no pee breaks) 😉

[@you2be839]

I already said it, no stop for peeing in that test, he needs to bring a bottle! haha

[@Ahto42]

Sad to say that nissan made a pointless car. Same car with a 2L diesel, ca 200hp, regular automatic and you will have a perfect combo and selling point. My 2012 X-tail diesel automatic makes 6,2l/100km. 8-9 with a trailer. Can't see, how newer cars are cleaner and better for the enviroment.

[@BobH809]

Never thought I would see the day, Bjorn using fossil fuel... You know Bjorn, I was asked when I was buying my latest car, a Nissan Qashqai, if I would be interested in the Qashqai version of what you are driving here. I don't get this e-4force system. Hybrid's I get, Electric I get, but the premise that you will save fuel this way makes no sense to me. Save fuel, get electric. Makes much more sense where you live, not in UK yet. Too many chargers not being repaired quickly enough when broken.

[@peterbryson6159]

If you want to go places and not spend time charging a car it’s perfect. If you don’t then you don’t!😊

[@jurepecar9092]

Aptera will beat this time easily :)

[@Martinko_Pcik]

I am not sure if Aptera would survive winter conditions. it looks so fragile. Who knows how will snow accumulate on its unique shape.

[@serhiy1237]

ICE or EV. Hybrids are lame. In 2012 I would say EV, in 2023 I’m for ICE, hands down.

[@donphobos]

The PHEV test with depleted HV battery will be exciting. Looking forward to that.

[@matimac91]

Totally agree. A parallel hybrid should be much more efficient at high speeds.

[@roodick85]

Ouch yeah 😅

[@josephcullen2512]

I keep gloves in my hybrid car for the smelly pumps hahah... Or if I haven't any gloves then I use the paper like clever Bjorn

[@Banks231]

it's more like a electric transmission ICE car, consumes more fuel than mechanic transmission on high way is normal

[@guseks8413]

I feel like this cars system is very ineffective. 1,1l/10km is really high consumption. A big shame really, because it seemed like a cool concept. I think you are right about stopping atleast once. I used to do drives that was about 1050km and I would stop once half way just to top up fuel so it was not super low on arrival, stretch, visit a bathroom, get some food and coffe and then go again. Never really timed it but I suppose it was about 15-20min if there was no line to shop at the station. Now that I have a family electric works great. It is perfect timing to stop every 300km or so.

[@GoldenCroc]

Its higher than some similar cars, but not that much. Its the speed that does it. Wont get much better than other similar cars at the same speed. Depends on the situation for stops, I am sure its correct for most people. Myself, I do 1500km with only one fuel stop for 2 minutes, but thats an outlier for sure.

[@guseks8413]

@@GoldenCroc Thats true, it is a petrol after all. Im more used to diesel that can do that trip at around 0,7 for a smillar size car. Yeah I think you are an outlier for sure. I did the 1050 drive in one go on some occasion but I did not find it worth it.

[@perpyro]

The consumption on these car is in the aeria of my old Chevrolet Caprice with a 5,7l V8 from 1989.

[@airestocky]

is this also the base of the brandnew Outlander PHEV? I think the Outlander is even more an „EV“ than the Nissan, e. g. it has a DC fast charger port and a 20 kWh battery, so pretty interesting to see how the Nissan is performing here - thank you for the video in advance - as soon as the new Outlander PHEV will arrive in Europe I will test drive one - OK, I recently switched to a brandnew Tesla MY LR, but I‘m still a huge fan of the Outlander PHEV :-) But to be honest, driving 100‘s of km on a highway is not an area a PHEV will perform well…

[@IhsanDogan]

I'm really surprised that the consumption was that high. For a serial hybrid I expected that it would be more efficcient, but probably small combustion engines can't made efficcient at all.

[@michelcote]

Bjorn the machine !

[@mightygood1]

Wow. Such terrible economy. My PX Ranger would out do this.

[@slipperyslope3912]

"Cut out that vegan shit and burn dinosaur juice." hahaha Bjorn is the absolute best. 1:35

[@Axter6]

Quite a good result, but I think you could do even better. My diesel BMW 5 series gets 6.3 L/100km consumption and 1100km from a single tank. Do you think this challenge could be done on a single tank and without stopping? Love the channel man, I wish we had the same charging infrastructure as Norway!

[@pawefiett2468]

Good luck driving 1000 km without making any brakes!

[@GreenDriveIndia]

We should not encourage anyone to do even 500 km without break, fatigue causes so much accidents.

[@Cornelius87]

​@GreenDriveIndia he can take a break but it wouldn't count towards the total time as he did in this run so he would save maybe like around 10 minutes which he took in both fueling stops.

[@you2be839]

@@GreenDriveIndia Yeah, 500km seems to be a good limit for driving non-stop (that's about 4 hours of driving at 120km/h), and that's why I say that once EVs can do ~500km at 120Km/h, during winter... it's pretty much game over for the argument that EVs suck for long road trips... There are currently EVs already capable of doing about 480km during winter, but at just 90km/h average speed...

[@JRo250]

As an American I'm like, oh 1,136 Kr for 57 L. 15 gallons, ok. $109 for 15 gallons?!??! sheeee.

[@you2be839]

Yep, if you get to drive in Europe for a rather lengthy period of time, you'll quickly lose appetite for all those V8 SUVs and pick-up trucks you people drive there...

[@tokepanduro7302]

Maybe bjørn had to sleep because he missed a few charging stops.

[@Bultish]

Is the "in between" music deliberately a bit hillbilly-ish because of the fossil nature of the car?? 😅😅

[@bjornnyland]

Yes

[@BobbyKouzmanov]

Hi, what is the price comparison? Driving fossil vs electric?

[@w0nd3rlu573r]

Could you possibly do a "normalized" chart? In terms of efficiency of the spent energy by the hour or similar?

[@MC-ce5pg]

Really didn't get the idea what you were trying to get...

[@kanaljenskanal]

Dont you need a special tag to get fossil energy? Kinda smart to use a normal credit card 🤪

[@Nisse977]

Test a normal diesel car, not an thirsty SUV 😊 Why not grab a BMW-Björn car, 320d or 520d. 🎉 Maybe you need to be two drivers taking turns so you as a human would not be holding the cars potential back 👍 And bring food in the car so you dont have to go an buy stuff at the petrol stations, saving some minutes. When driving an EV there is time for doing stuff like that while charging.

[@AsekiBekovy]

fossil makes me barf suv makes me barf 10/10 video

[@hmi1750]

my Audi Q5 55TFSIe has better consumption than this with a roofbox and 5 people plus their luggage including german autobahn speeds!

[@mihaiachim244]

Also în the city?

[@londonwestman1]

Seems like a good plan to test at least one more really good ICE diesel to see what is truly the very best an ICE can achieve. And I again put in a word for my favoured choice - the Ford Focus. I think maybe the most economical variant might be the 1.5 TDCi 105 ECOnetic. And like a very few other diesels, it might just manage 1,000 km on a single tank. (I've read other comments here speaking for a BMW 5 Series, or a Hyundai Ionic ICE. I wonder which of these is the best. But I think they'd both be better than a Volvo XC40, which I suspect will be a bit of a grass guzzler by comparison.)

[@jasonriddell]

IMHO LONG range would be the "key" to get to ONE / ZERO stops but at that point we are reaching average speed over distance and Google maps can give you that

[@GoldenCroc]

Best ICE can do max theoretical speed (as in, the speed limit) in a 1000km test so no need to test it really, since its impossible to legally go faster. Quite a lot of diesel cars can do 1000km in a single tank, almost every non suv car that is a bit larger and got a 4 cylinder engine should manage it at these speeds. Passat, BMW 5 series, Merc E class etc.

[@7necromancer]

The theoretical max would just be 8 hours, 20 minutes travelling 1000km at a constant 120km/h

[@PhilippBorn]

6:40 I mean, a consumption of 10l/100km is to be expected, no? That's effectively a SUV running on petrol. Probably a drag coefficient like a tank. Going 100 or 110 instead of 120+ , would help with consumption. Even without the whole battery and e-motor thingy in between you'd have the same consumption.

[@KevinT3141]

My worst single tank in my IONIQ Plug-in was 9.66 l/100km, and that was at sustained 120 km/h, outside temp around 5°C, with a passenger, our snowboarding gear, and two 29" mountain bikes on the roof. This X-Trail result blew me away...

[@kruemelfelix]

Yeah, an Hybrid car like this one combines the worst of both worlds. Bad efficiency in the elctric drivetrain, high maintenance and fuel costs, loud engine and so on. You don't really save fule, except maybe in city driving.

[@KevinT3141]

@@kruemelfelix I got my plug-in for my commute, where it has saved me huge coin. I didn't go full EV back then because we didn't have the charging infrastructure for me to get to my snowboarding hills and back. Fortunately that's changed now, and my next car will be a full EV. (We just replaced my wife's Santa Fe XL with a Model Y in fact.)

[@kruemelfelix]

@@KevinT3141 For commuting small distances Hybrids were a good compromise before full-EVs were suitable in some regions. They aren't that bad in cities. Now it's different but I can totally understand your decision at that time. Model Y is a great choice, have fun with it! And also don't hessitate participating in local Tesla meetups or your local Tesla forum ;)

[@jaakkor.2963]

I think that is expected as it is 4WD car and that is typical consumption for those kind of cars.

[@nocapproductions5471]

Weird car, 11 liters you can do in Q5 3.0 diesel.

[@herrjonna2007]

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