I'll admit, I was not expecting Grave Titan on this list. Really clever use of the fact that it's "a _sorcery_ speed spell" to sneak it in btw
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
What video are YOU watching!? 😂
@dino-wer-kuh34983 жыл бұрын
i know right?! how the frigg did it make it THIS HIGH! you guys WONT BELIEVE how high GRAVE TITAN is on THIS LIST! (spoiler: 2 places better than kodamas reach!)
@pauljimerson82183 жыл бұрын
You can Emergence Zone out your Grave Titan and its number one instant
@stephenball21083 жыл бұрын
I don’t know where it’d rank for you guys if the list got extended, but in most decks that can play it, Jeska’s Will is ludicrously powerful.
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Funny you say that, it was one of the last to be cut from our big list that started with 45-50 sorceries
@nicolaslarranaga87213 жыл бұрын
"This card is completely insane" counter: 8
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Joe Cherries 🍒 wants you to know how insane cards are!
@bradleyhoward96383 жыл бұрын
Don't counter the tutor unless your counter is limited to noncreature or only instant/ sorcery.
@pauljimerson82183 жыл бұрын
@@bradleyhoward9638 Or they are going for Boseiju
@Xonides3 жыл бұрын
“We love you all as much as we can without making y’all uncomfortable” Funny AND considerate XD
@Hecatomb66693 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say...I am not an OG watcher, but I've been really going through your posts. You guys are amazing. I really appreciate your comment, humour, interactions, etc. You seem like guys that would just be fun you hang out with. It would be amazing to play magic with you guys. Keep up the great work, fellas.
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks Mike! Always happy when someone loves our content because that means they have a huge backlog to dig through which is the best feeling ever 😄 Come and hang in the discord, we have been getting more into spelltable lately (we actually just played 4 games yesterday)
@Andreasws243 жыл бұрын
Replenish is also really strong, if you play a decent amount of enchantments.
@elipetrou93083 жыл бұрын
I would consider finale of devastation to be better than green suns zenith, even though it’s one mana more, you aren’t limited to green creatures, and it can be a win con.
@ryanbigbabykinlawbrisbin7533 жыл бұрын
I was shocked I didn’t see it. Pulls from graveyard and a haste enabler .....
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Just think Green Sun's Zenith has more utility is all, that one mana makes a fair bit of difference
@elipetrou93083 жыл бұрын
@@ryanbigbabykinlawbrisbin753 oh ya I forgot about that too
@elipetrou93083 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds ya, it’s your list and all. I was just thinking that for one mana you get haste, recursion and a huge creature buff. That being said, if you don’t dump the extra mana into it green suns is a slightly better deal, as all you get for the other mana is more variety and recursion.
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
@@elipetrou9308 finale close was cute pretty late in the process.
@spurcalluth63003 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing Alpha Brawl on here.
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
😅
@PulseTriangle3 жыл бұрын
The distinction between instants and sorceries with flash I think is pretty important (name card types, some cards interact with one or the other, etc)
@helmhamerhand7333 жыл бұрын
Demonic Tutor was already my favorite card back in 1994. Yes i’m old....
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Why pick a favorite when you can have ANY card be your favorite :P
@brenttotland37043 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% about proxies with you guys, great content, keep it up 👍
@dino-wer-kuh34983 жыл бұрын
casting timetwister feels amazing! * puts on tophat and monocle *
@pauljimerson82183 жыл бұрын
I say old chap, well played!
@RedCometNurse3 жыл бұрын
I am partial to Tragic Arrogance as a board wipe. *I* get the choice of what dies on each player's board. And *I* can choose the same permanent multiple times if I want (Enchantment Creatures or Artifact Creatures are the bane of other players). It is really fun when played.
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
We love that card, we think it's one of the best in the format :)
@dr.lemonade2423 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine used [[Reanimate]] to recur [[Jin-Gitaxias]] on turn 2. We scooped.
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Yeesh. Yeah that'll do it
@pauljimerson82183 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@assau1tedpeanutinc5402 жыл бұрын
No Yawgmoth's Will? EDH is the only format its even legal in, not sure how it was missed.
@SaltySparrow3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Armageddon is awesome in osgir where you're running a bunch of mana rocks.
@entiao55703 жыл бұрын
Until you catch a Vandalblast and the whole game is wrecked
@butwhy31393 жыл бұрын
You know what I miss? The look of resigned betrayal on Joe's face when Beezy would interrupt him.
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
That’s character growth!
@poofypeanut02213 жыл бұрын
You know what’s completely insane? How much I love your channel 😊😊😊
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE AWESOME PEANUT
@poofypeanut02213 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds I would only be kinda awesome if I didn’t watch the Nitpicking Nerds religiously !
@dino-wer-kuh34983 жыл бұрын
also: im friggn saving money already to fly across the pond once covid is over, then i bruteforce my way into your EDH games! sadly (gladly?) i met SOOO many cool muricans thanks to you guys that i need to take like at least a month off work and visit as many of them as possible. but its gonna happen!
@OmegaMTG3 жыл бұрын
I'm in Oregon if you make it here. You can play with my pod. :)
@crovax13753 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that Dread Return would be on this list or at least mentioned alongside Reanimate. The ability to cast Dread Return from the graveyard is so useful in self-mill decks. Also I'm suprised that Expropriate was the only turns spell in the top 15
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
The cost of 9 mana really brings it down
@crovax13753 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds what do you mean?
@loganator3263 жыл бұрын
Tutors are always some of the best cards you can play. Even in budget you can get good tutors through all the trophy, trinket, etc. Mages and a few other niche tutor cards
@jdust43 жыл бұрын
Can't afford Demonic Tutor? Just play Grim Tutor!
@andrewsparkes88293 жыл бұрын
Best Reanimate play in my Grixis Marchesa Artifacts deck: T1 - "I don't play a land, move to discard...discard a Blightsteel" T2 - "Swamp. Reanimate." ...boom. (And yes, I hit other black players first ASAP to get around Deluge, lol!)
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Blightsteel shuffled back into your deck
@dino-wer-kuh34983 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds JUDGE!
@AldoTorresblexaz3 жыл бұрын
LED + Underworld Bridge + Brain Freeze would me a much better combination for cEDH as you don't give your opponents the opportunity to draw interaction, or maybe throw in a Hullbreacher with Wheel of Fortune and you have all the mana in the world. :P
@90Melonhead3 жыл бұрын
Really like the daily uploads!
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
we're loving it too!
@tommullings99123 жыл бұрын
Not sure if its top 15 but ive never casted triumph of the hordes and lost a game of edh.
@ulamogscofferoom15353 жыл бұрын
if that card resolves it is pretty much insta win
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Not sure where we'd put that card it's not something we usually play
@rend79793 жыл бұрын
The craterhoof behemoth of sorceries
@pauljimerson82183 жыл бұрын
You Triumphed
@julianvickers3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Time Warp (and its functionally similar cousins) didn't make the list. Extra Turn spells that go to the graveyard to be recurred are insane. I'd probably put them above Gamble, personally.
@OmegaMTG3 жыл бұрын
Time warp in graveyard. Omnispell adept on the battlefield. Mnemonic deluge. 3 extra turns for 3 mana. That should be game. :)
@PlayerThe903 жыл бұрын
GREAT content. I do agree that tutors are often the best sorceries, they can even take your best flash sorceries LUL! However, I think that a fair tier list maybe without the presence of tutors. Cheers!
@sephyrias8833 жыл бұрын
00:30:40 lol, that always happens. Sometimes people skip past the disclaimer.
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Step 1: Get triggered by an NN video Step 2: Comment without watching 80% of the video Step 3: Profit
@cptregalz8091 Жыл бұрын
I loved this video series! Any chance you two might be considering updating this?
@esrohm64603 жыл бұрын
gamble was printed in alpha its called demonic tutor ps.: time spiral + copy spells. if you have enough you can just infinitely draw 7 including another copy spell and shuffle your grave back to not mill out
@dino-wer-kuh34983 жыл бұрын
what about gitaxian probe? when you talked about time spiral BZ said "0 mana, draw 1! i take it!". git prob does exactly that, and you peek at someone hand. being a free cantrip looks innocent, but is actually quite insane in combo and spellslinger decks. its so easy to exploit and oils engines that are already good
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Git Probe is up there. It is definitely one of the best cards ever printed. Moreso for 1v1 I think
@returnoftheduelist97903 жыл бұрын
I made a borderline cedh rielle deck and gamble is in there cuz its a tutor, and a draw after i discard and it bumps rielles power. Deck is near a g bar and is a straight 9 storm deck and then my emry artifact deck is right next to or right below that. Still working on getting my locust god deck faster and gavi is my go to deck thats a solid 7 for most pods.
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you are a big izzet fan lol
@returnoftheduelist97903 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds i dont run black or green and every spicy card in those colors ive pulled i traded for blue cards or artifacts lmao
@Domenico440553 жыл бұрын
Agree. Grave Titan is indeed better than counterspell, counterspell does a one-for-one, Grave Titan is multiple bodies in one card!
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
triggered
@Kaisingsens3 жыл бұрын
Armageddon+ World Shaper + Sac Outlet seems reasonable
@andrewrobles88143 жыл бұрын
I agree with the reserve list stance. That being said, really love me some proxies tho 🥰🥰
@pauljimerson82183 жыл бұрын
I would adjust my monocle for anyone who played Ravages of War against me and twirl my moustache against a Time Twister
@somersetbassett45803 жыл бұрын
Always nice to see a NPN episode queued 👾
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@wyattriffle27993 жыл бұрын
Armageddon/Ravages of War can be brutal if combined with Kamahl's Will. Destroy all lands, except your Indestructible 1/1 lands!
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
That is what the kids call a Wombo Combo
@pauljimerson82183 жыл бұрын
Heroic Intervention works as well for only 2. Lets be honest, have you ever even seen Ravages of War played? Its like 1500 bucks
@vondoom31413 жыл бұрын
Doomsday has fallen out in favour of cedh with the printing of opposition agent
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Hard to keep up with the cEDH meta.
@vondoom31413 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds thats legit
@pauljimerson82183 жыл бұрын
Its all ad naus now
@corvoattano67653 жыл бұрын
Dead of Winter seems really good with all the new snow stuff
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
It scales well with the game but early game it slacks off a bit.
@om3n4303 жыл бұрын
First suggestion to proxy....nice, keep preaching the gospel!
@hiddenleaf4143 жыл бұрын
My favorite is Tooth and Nail even tho I don’t use it to combo.
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty great card
@registeel85473 жыл бұрын
Welp, time to buy a well-deserved Natural Order to pump my Yisan deck up e.e Great vid guys, my GF LOOOOVES expropriate and I, among suffering and despair, love her, spitefully whenever she plays it/talks about it.
@jamesnoon67453 жыл бұрын
Great lists
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@arthurvandenbergh18813 жыл бұрын
Kinda surprised to not see any nature’s lore type cards. I know they aren’t necessarily the most powerful cards but they (should) go in 99% of all the green decks imo. Very good list once again though!
@deadNdivine123 жыл бұрын
I played a game where I played expropriate and didn't win where 3/4 players voted time... I regret not having/drawing into a wincon.... Still a good card.
@chadanenberg64543 жыл бұрын
I bought my liliana art demonic tutor for my liliana tribal deck. It is pretty
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Ooo I love that one
@stevenfairhaven63882 жыл бұрын
My demonic tuner has one manna for its casting cost so which is it
@golgariguy3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe you forgot Spring of Eternal Piece, should have been number 1!!
@EnemyToad3 жыл бұрын
Hell I'll drive to Buffalo. I mean, I'd do it just for Duffs, but playing EDH is a plus.
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Duff's is a nice bonus
@pauljimerson82183 жыл бұрын
Always Green Sun Zenith for Dryad Arbor
@darylroetz90533 жыл бұрын
Nice list thanks for tutoring me😉
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
definitely ballsy to try and make a list like this.
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
How did we do?
@Jonzin4BeatzNYC3 жыл бұрын
I love the reoccurring opening! When are you going to start selling nitpicking nerd merch?
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
We tried in the past and it didn't come out very good so we're looking into it :)
@joshzogg54693 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the Emrakul clock?
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
It's just the artwork :P
@MJ0LN1R73 жыл бұрын
Guyyyysss... number one, YAWGMOTH’S WILL. Comon now lol. Legit surprised me that this wasn’t. But DT is also top 5
@MJ0LN1R73 жыл бұрын
Can’t even count the amount of games I’ve won off YW with my K’rrik deck. Not even in the video 😔
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
We considered it, but it's pretty bad outside of a spellslinger/storm type deck. None of the "storm" cards really cracked the list
@skirtsftw3 жыл бұрын
Gamble is my absolute favorite red card tbh
@ArneyO7 Жыл бұрын
Imagine time twister with smothering tithe. Okay I now get 21 free mana and seven new cards to play, thanks for playing
@riverswater56883 жыл бұрын
Expropriate is perfect in my Narset deck
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Because it wins the game immediately? 😂
@deadNdivine123 жыл бұрын
I just wonder how many dual lands have gotten destroyed over the years? Now the number of cards available is very, very limited..
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Oh it's gotta be a substantial percentage
@noahmarti61643 жыл бұрын
Freaking omnipotence Every one Sacrifices half their creature Loses half there life And discards half their hand All this how 3BB
@pauljimerson82183 жыл бұрын
Tergrid approves
@jaygriffiths1003 жыл бұрын
I always thought the floor is lava but apparently the floor is a mana dork.
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, your whole life is a lie
@MrPikawika44443 жыл бұрын
Who is it on the reanimate art? 🤔
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
I think it's a gross shrively raisin man
@kurtisyoung67393 жыл бұрын
Apocalypse for #1
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Quite possibly...
@kurtisyoung67393 жыл бұрын
Remove everything from the game and discard your entire hand? How could it not be number one?
@OmegaMTG3 жыл бұрын
Omnispell Adept makes this list ridiculous if you run blue.
@TheObstalace3 жыл бұрын
Hey NN, if I play Golos and put all of the Top 15 lists in one deck, will I have the Infinity Gauntlet of Commander? :o
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna say yes on that one
@murd3r0tica3 жыл бұрын
Question for Beezy. Could you rank Reanimate, Animate Dead, and Necromancy for Meren in a reply to this comment. Just numbers is fine if you dont want to dive in.
@MatthiasMatcha3 жыл бұрын
1, 2, 3
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
I guess it depends on how heavily focused you are on milling and dredging and entombing, but I do think it goes 1, 2, 3. The question is how many of them do you want
@timothygerbig8753 жыл бұрын
Armageddon belongs in Kaalia. Big time.
@keiharris3322 жыл бұрын
I feel sorceries are supposed to be naturally stronger effects while instances are supposed to be decent and/or over costed.
@energetek6613 жыл бұрын
Reanimate Grave Titan. Thats why reanimate is OP!
@dino-wer-kuh34983 жыл бұрын
also also! OG duals S tier! fight me, poopface!
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE WHATS WRONG WITH THE WORLD
@PileOTaters3 жыл бұрын
Plague of Vermin i think is the best sorcery in the game
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
It might be one of the coolest :P
@beelor57773 жыл бұрын
Where is cultivate and Kodamas reach?
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Somewhere way below, most of these cards are crazy powerful! I guess as a side note we'd probably stick Nature's Lore, Three Visits, and Skyshroud Claim above Cultivate
@MedievalWerewolf3 жыл бұрын
Timetwister is $9k now.
@Munchie37773 жыл бұрын
Whoa ull play game if we drive up!!!!! Brings 14 decks*
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Yes muchie we eill play with you
@Munchie37773 жыл бұрын
\(^o^)/!!!
@rotemizhar84263 жыл бұрын
Peer into the Abyss....
@yawgmoththranphysician1393 жыл бұрын
Chaos Warp
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
...
@chrisgroulx60713 жыл бұрын
Chaos warp is an Instance.
@MrRayRockstar3 жыл бұрын
Can you explain again? Please
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Which one? lol
@serra31433 жыл бұрын
#15 with the new Thor god
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Big time game winning
@JimBoulter1083 жыл бұрын
“Dual lands aren’t Tier S because they are on the reserved list.” Puts multiple reserved list cards in this top 15 sorceries video. 👍😂
@tommullings99123 жыл бұрын
If u play armageddon and dont win quickly im never playing with u again
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty fair outlook
@lunarlight31313 жыл бұрын
can confirm. used to play land destruction when i first started edh. playgroup kicked me out.
@pauljimerson82183 жыл бұрын
You should have the win on the spot basically
@thesenate9183 жыл бұрын
The four dislikes are just people trying to sell underground sea for 2000 on Ebay and you told the masses they got em for 1000 on Ebay, "nitpicking nerds crashes the economy"
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Lmao we are killing this
@weishin3 жыл бұрын
Now I wonder how many of these will be in the archive for Strixhaven 🤔
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Ooo could be interesting
@deadNdivine123 жыл бұрын
What's better than Progenitus? Hahaha
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Riiiiight 😂
@Goblin3003 жыл бұрын
*AHEM* There best be Vicious Rumors on this list or imma finna lose it.
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Welp...
@dcon18913 жыл бұрын
Young people don't understand the good spongebob references 😢
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
It's a damn shame
@KevinYuMusic13 жыл бұрын
Tbh Demonic Tutor = 99 card deck
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it just cantrips you into your best thing. It's funny when the card you tutor for is on top
@dreweagx3 жыл бұрын
sonic wallet
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Not even creative 0/10
@changhyon923 жыл бұрын
consuming abberation stays when you Toxic Deluge
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
Most likely 😂
@tooltechtv61303 жыл бұрын
Shared summons ? And it’s less mana even, and yes it is an instant but tooth n nail shouldn’t be on the list but just showing how this is much better n u shouldnt run tooth n nail lol
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
That's an instant lol
@tooltechtv61303 жыл бұрын
Kinda makes tooth and nail trashy looking actually for 4 more mana, like oh yea guys you just wait!!! You just wait til I get that nine mana!
@jeanbarque99183 жыл бұрын
"Cedh is just ten" not shure to understand, english is not my native lsnguage. You mean 11-15 doesnt even fit in CEDH? Just want to know if it's what you mean, trying to improuve my english I try to understand more than words and basic sentence, I want to be able to undetstand more complexe sentence, the meaning of sentences that doesnt say clearly things but let us interprete it. So my question is not about 11-15 being not good enought for CEDH, my question is more like did you mean "11-15 is already not good enough" like if you play cedh 1 to 10, don't go further.. as a way to say " even 10 is not really good enought.. pick the 5,6,7 first.. don't go until 13-14 like the end part of the list doesnt reach cedh power level.. in brief is it what you wanted to say? Or did you really wanted to say that the, specific cards from 11 to 15 aren,t ( specificaly) good enough for cedh. Or even meaning something else..
@rend79793 жыл бұрын
They mean by power level, as how strong something is from 1 to 10
@jeanbarque99183 жыл бұрын
@@rend7979 oh, ok, thanks, i ll listen again to integrate what he said with the meaning. Thank's again 🙂
@morgoth24253 жыл бұрын
blasphemous act doesnt win you the game? toralf would like a word with you
@NitpickingNerds3 жыл бұрын
I’ll fight Toralf right now!
@morgoth24253 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds you'd be dead from blasphemous act
@morgoth24253 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds * laughs in hand full of red board wipes *