Complete Disaster - Inline 6 Vortec 4200 Datsun breaks again - Nova broke too -

[@philipschrantz8402]

Always tough to bring an 8 second car to a 10 second track

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Yup. Is what it is. We will be better prepared next time.

[@xozindustries7451]

I find that I learn a lot more from failures than successes. You guys are very good at what you do and you’ll overcome. Glad to hear you’re doing better, COVID is no joke.

[@itsdarooster8160]

Shit breaks bro but you do have an amazing way of explaining things love the channel it really helps with my crazy anxiety and depression

[@itsdarooster8160]

Your channel deserves to blow up because you are a hard worker and can tell that your father taught you right watching how you and your dad work is awesome

[@WhiteTrashMotorsports]

Even though our fate was sealed when we drew Red Beard for second round the 28-10.5 shootout we still considered our weekend a success that we ran 6.80s in our daily driver consistently all weekend. You and your dad have lots of experience and a solid program, I'm sure you'll do a lot better next year.

[@UnfinishedProjectDartSport]

Very interesting to hear this take on the weekend from a more dedicated racer, compared to the event descriptions from others. Thanks.

[@TurboWorld]

I don't like to watch you suffer, I really do enjoy your honesty and perspective. I understand it so well, and yet, have I been able to put it so eloquently as you did. Great job!

[@Anarchy-Is-Liberty]

@18:19 This is the very reason I got out of drag racing for the last 30 years!! Fix, break, fix, break, fix, break, money, money, money, fix, break, money, money. Yep, totally know the feeling!! We're now building a new vehicle (an S10),. We're focused on running 11'os-10:90's, and that's all it's doing! It's being built as a go have fun, don't break the bank, bracket car, weekend street fun hotrod, and building to last for years! It's just for fun, and it's all about enjoying our build and project, to hell with all the money out-go, and all of the stress over how fast it is nonsense!! Love what you do, but I totally understand the frustration! Peace!

[@floatingdoc4757]

As a Grassroots Motorsports subscriber and 2021 Challenge participant, I know what you're capable of. You're right, stuff breaks, but when you get a car sorted out, look out!

[@davidanderson2393]

Sorry to here about the trans issues, it is definitely frustrating when things come unraveled at a race when you spent so much time getting prepared. Good luck on the repairs

[@EquipmentAttachments]

I get it. Lots of Z parts and pieces scattered across my past. Enjoyed seeing them both run.

[@SloppyMechanics]

Not the content we wanted, but the content we deserve

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Yeah. We'll push through it. Part of me wants to stick a totally stock trans in there, but transbrakes are pretty useful.

[@SloppyMechanics]

@@Calvin-Nelson yessir sadly a must for cars that need to leave

[@TurboJohn74]

Keep your heads up, you're doing great. Your uploads always make the day better.

[@jdmmike7225]

As the Man, Burt Munro said, those broken parts are Offerings to the God of Speed. In drag racing as well as my chosen motorsport drifting broken parts are a way of life. But I try to look at it as a hidden blessing. Yes, it broke but that now opens up the opportunity for upgrades. Don't get too down bro, I know you'll be back faster than ever. 👍

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Yeah. We're running a lot of top shelf stuff in that trans. It should not have broke. Rated for 1200hp.

[@jdmmike7225]

@@Calvin-Nelson That's crazy. That's always the worse when you feel you have the best available and it still fails. I was wondering your feeling about 3 speed vs. 2 speed? I've been seeing quite a few guys on 10.5's getting crazy et's & trap speeds with 2 speeds.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

@@jdmmike7225 for the 1/8th mile it would be really nice to go to a 2 speed. What most of the guys are doing with 2 speeds is trying to kill torque.

[@jdmmike7225]

@@Calvin-Nelson Yeah it's alot of 660 racing.

[@roadrunner4404]

Rough weekend. I hoped you had all the bugs worked out. You will find that magic combo. Best of luck.

[@RoadkillCustoms]

I found your review of your experience truly enlightening. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, know they are respected. It was a pleasure meeting your family, and I look forward to following the trials and tribulations, as it's making your channel a fantastic resource for real-world solutions to real-world problems.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Thanks. It was great event. I will have more fun next year!

[@Levisbackyardperformance]

We enjoyed the conversations we had with you guys. I hated that we all had transmission trouble I didn’t have a spare but I know to have one now lol hated not getting a single pass was gonna turn the car up. But there’s always the next one glad you guys made it home safely we were just happy to be there

[@Calvin-Nelson]

I really enjoyed hanging out as well. Next year will be better!

[@GIGABACHI]

That fly by at the end sounded GLORIOUS. Good work, Nivlac57 Team ! Better luck next time ! 👌😎👍

[@joshreynolds729]

Much respect man, and you do this crap for science and fun. Never forget the last part being fun.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Yup. Thanks!

[@BOSS-jf7on]

I always enjoy updates, thanks for sharing.

[@vrm86gt]

Cool that you and your team are understanding of issues that arise as 1st time event almost always have certain hurdles.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Yup. Nobodies perfect. Life happens!

[@andrewnelson3733]

Dallas and John have put together a great event. The curve balls thrown at them were recognized and they have plans to address them it the second running. We fully support this event.

[@davidsabyan2481]

I feel for you, some race weekends make you want to take up gardening. I am part of the crew at a grass roots track in Canada. The traction compount price hit $1600 Cdn a barrel this year , if you can find any. We have a real good crew who know how to mix and apply it. It is rewarding when a 5.65 car owner brings us a best 60 ft, best et, best mph time slip ever.I feel for you on the trans brake, fluid temperature rising about 50 degrees per second is not good on a false light. Then to redo it before a cool down, ouch.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Thanks. That's a haul to go up there. Appreciate the interest!

[@HeyLiana1]

Totally agreed with everything you said

[@BadTreeProductions]

Sorry you guys had so many problems, your dad the few times I seen him looked to be having a good time, next year stronger and faster, good luck 👍

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Thanks. Would have loved to stop over at Bad Tree land and hang out.

[@mattyblanchard5905]

The track BURNT YOU DOWN WTF!!!!!!!YOU KNOW IT I KNOW IT WTF...I LOVE THE AMERI-BARRA

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Is what it is.

[@shoominati23]

It would be funny / cool to get that Studebaker and put the engine in the trunk (we call it a boot here) and make it drive backwards and then people would be REALLY confused! LOL, it would be even cooler than that pickup at powercruise that had the engine in the tray!

[@Calvin-Nelson]

That would be funny, but we have other plans for it.

[@modeverything1]

Well at least the Datsun sounds awesome!

[@TallGarage]

Great video man, sorry you had such a rough time, great to meet you tho.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Nice meeting you too. Is what it is. We'll do better next time.

[@jameshaner5568]

Do you shift into neutral at the end of the run

[@Calvin-Nelson]

No

[@circleofdrift]

Hey love your Channel, we just picked up an atlas 5 cylinder long block and we’re curious if there was a resource/forum you recommended for servicing these engines? Going in a 240sx for rally. Again love the channel!

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Thanks. Some of the people on the 4200 facebook page and I made this wiki for the 4200. Some of it may cross over. sites.google.com/view/vortec4200wiki/home The vortec 4200 Facebook page is good too. A little bit of 4 and 5 stuff on there.

[@600wheel]

I can’t stop staring at that Studebaker‘s its got all the glass at least I think it’s glass (very rare and expensive)either way that’s a very interesting car I love seeing people build interesting cars

[@JimsFastbackGarage]

It's been a year since my last covid episode and yeah, the fatigue is a real bummer but hopefully you get back to 100% faster than me. Best wishes!

[@Calvin-Nelson]

I'm back to 100% now. Thanks!

[@boostedgringo5885]

I had almost the exact opposite experience this weekend. Prepped on bare asphalt to get ready for Hinton. Ended up the street was prepped fully. I did get to race Ryan’s end game chevelle. Easily winning that one. Ended up breaking the rear u joint and took out the transmission too :(. Got stuck on the chip and made 28psi on the brake. Check out no prep Hinton end game video.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

That stinks... breaking stuff is the worst

[@boostedgringo5885]

@@Calvin-Nelson my fault. I threw in some lowering blocks that ended up binding the rear joint. Made it a few rounds at least and beating Ryan is a rare thing. He didn’t believe it was a 4 banger and turned it up too much. Would have rather had a decent race myself

[@HOTRODPOKEMON]

Cars are looking good

[@gfdirtwork]

Hey Calvin I work on these engines all the time even stuck one in my 98 tj. I have had 3 different trailbazers break the 4l60e pumps now, shatter them. my local transmission builder sees them all time. Any Input? I was a transmission guy for gm for 15 years never seen this in any v8 or v6. got to be a harmonic thing or something?

[@Calvin-Nelson]

4l60e transmissions are famous for their lack of durability. I'd be more suspicious if that than anything. That being said, perhaps bellhousing is offset somehow and pushing the pump off center or something like that.

[@gfdirtwork]

@@Calvin-Nelson Maybe but all of them have had both there dowl pins it just odd it always happens to the 4.2s

[@blackericdenice]

How much hp a 4.2 made n/a? Seem like 4.36 gears would be too low for a boosted 4.2.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Stock they made 275-295

[@blackericdenice]

@@Calvin-Nelson Can you make 395 hp n/a is a better question?

[@Calvin-Nelson]

@@blackericdenice there are guys making 650

[@blackericdenice]

@@Calvin-Nelson So 400 hp from a 4.2 with custom cams, stock compression and a tune is no big deal.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

@@blackericdenice I've personally never done it, but I think it's possible

[@mattyblanchard5905]

That's how it goes 3rd then 2nd gear it's smoked

[@aaronkerlik8809]

I'm currently building a vortec 4200 and I'd like to get into contact with you aboit certain roadblocks I'm hitting, please respond if you are into that sort of thing

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Yeah. Shoot me an email at [e-mail]

[@aaronkerlik8809]

@@Calvin-Nelson will do👍👍

[@19jody72]

Dn didn't know you guys was there in Sikeston

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Yup. We were there.

[@donaldgminski8621]

Looks like you're getting NoPrep practice in.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Yup

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Sad Thing I had to sell my 2004 Trailblazer I Inherited from my Grandfather because I ran out of time to repair due to Houston's Original Assholes, I was chasing a Ghost and I believe it was having Fuel pump issues, as it wasn't dropping codes. (started having issues late 2020) Sold it for a fair price to a Motorhead coworker of mine.

[@michaelblacktree]

The first year of any event is basically a beta test. But hopefully the kinks will be worked out for next year.

[@hartiaacres]

Well done, I think a month or two of testing prior. And you results would have been much better. But you were on a limited time line. And still did really well. Both car ran in the 5's . That's moving!!! What was the overall fastest pass?? Fingers crossed you guys get the trans issues in both figured out. I have a feeling there's a lot more left in both cars!!! Speaking of which. Did you ever figure out what piston is used in the Nova??

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Yep. We had a little bit of testing prior, but not enough.

[@bigbaz8937]

That slippage was in the Torque Convertor not the Auto box.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Anything is possible, but we've had this model torque converter to well over 1000whp on other cars. That was only 600whp on those passes

[@sijonda]

Offerings to the God of speed.

[@Angrymaninmidland.]

Keep your eyes 👁️👁️ on the prize 👍👁️

[@fredbadgett7962]

Would a powerglide for the 1/8 mile events be feasible?

[@andrewnelson3733]

PG with current gears would work. With better prep you throw more power at it. The TH400 gives you more power with the gear multiplication. If you gear it for the 1/8 with anticipation of good prep you need both the steep rear gear and the trans gearing. If not, a PG and steep rear gear OR a 1/4 rear and TH400 first works well. It becomes very difficult to kill that much gearing with turning down the engine it creates a whole new challenge.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

What he said

[@fredbadgett7962]

@@Calvin-Nelson My Son raced the Hyper Bug years ago.It was a 1641 cc VW on a single turbo and a small shot of nitrous. 6.20 at 116 in the 1/8 mile. We found it went faster when we dialed back the launch (6 inch slicks). The 60 foot even picked up. We didn't have data acquisition, but wheel spin had to be the problem.Our shops COPO's have turbo 400's in them. Car serial #3 in 2012 came with a 'glide- it never made a pass with it.

[@jamesgeorge4874]

Racing in a nutshell. Better luck next time out.

[@brandonrohrer7914]

0:55 Cincinnati?

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Yup

[@MississippiDan1]

Are you using trans-go valve body reprogramming kits? They work great for high hp apps

[@Calvin-Nelson]

We are not. Both have an ATI transbrake valve body.

[@MississippiDan1]

@@Calvin-Nelson do they also provide a new relief spring for the front pump?

[@Calvin-Nelson]

@@MississippiDan1 were using an adjustable regulator.

[@MississippiDan1]

@@Calvin-Nelson wow... I can't wait to see what happened 🤔

[@tngtacticalmiata1219]

I've been having nothing but hell trying to put together my first 4L80E. It was slapped together haphazard and wrong when I got it so I didn't have much to go on and I've never done one of these before. I've done Th350's and 4R70's but, this is my first 4L80E. I'm not going for a max effort "all the horsetorques" build but, I AM shooting for around 800HP in a true street car..... WITH AC... I'll get through it.... just bitching......

[@Calvin-Nelson]

I hear you. Keep at it!

[@shadowopsairman1583]

4L80E is an electronic version of the TH400 Look up Precision Transmission in Amarillo

[@MarcOppelt]

Remember watching SpaceX blow up all those rockets? Failure after failure. Look at them now. Every failure is an opportunity to learn something. Keep up the good work. Mars is waiting…. 😅

[@BuildaMan]

i'm almost afraid to see what the datsun could do with a stickier track, and a sturdier transmission. Are you guys going to switch to built transmissions, or a different transmission architecture entirely?

[@andrewnelson3733]

it's a built transmission with many top shelf parts. We'll tear it apart and see what happened.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

What he said

[@MachineDr.]

If there is a bright side... transmissions usually fail because there was too much horsepower and it usually is the weakest link. I just am curious, since you usually trailer the car why not a powerglide? They can be built pretty much bulletproof and first gear has the proper ratio to hook on about any track anywhere. It will be more repeatable.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Yeah. We really weren't putting that much power down though. We've had questionable luck with powerglides in the past, but are considering trying it again soon.

[@600wheel]

Covid kicked my ass. Im glad i got the poke I cannot imagine had bad it would have been without it. Glad your good and getting better bro. I’m curious did fasterproms ever port a head out for you like they were going to if so how is it and are you still using it??

[@Calvin-Nelson]

They did. Planning to use it very soon.

[@600wheel]

@@Calvin-Nelson yah that should be a good breathing head especially if George did it before he left he’s in a much better place now but he was a good head porter

[@Calvin-Nelson]

@@600wheel George did port it. Hopefully sometime before the end of the year it will see some pressure.

[@600wheel]

@@Calvin-Nelson cool very cool George does good work…dont let him touch your brakes though cornfields are hard on paint jobs

[@Calvin-Nelson]

@@600wheel For sure! Lol

[@danielcarroll5667]

You already know the drill , "live & learn" it's the after effect of Covid that's really the pits , hope you , me and a whole lot of other good People are 100% soon

[@ericflower9855]

I had the same thing happen to me with my brother n laws blow thru twin ls ..I'm letting him use my Ms3x and didn't setup the SD card data logging, I've always used my laptop to start logging at 60% throttle and his laptop went to sleep after 2 min..... didn't log the only run we got in...

[@kittty2005]

If you can afford it a clutch and a 3 speed manual planetary gear set , just use the clutch on the start and shift manually without the clutch that's what Garrett Mitchell uses on Ruby his 1/8th mile car. He's got a five speed but he's running a 3.73 rear he ran a junkyard 4.7 liter in that for 2 years, but no matter what engine, drive train combination you use you're gonna wheely on some tracks and come unglued on others and sometimes it's the ambient temp.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

I think you have a few facts wrong. Ruby has a 2 speed powerglide with a torque converter. At the start, they were running junkyard motors, but more recently they were running Texas Speed 427 engines. Right now Ruby doesn't have an engine though.

[@kittty2005]

@@Calvin-NelsonYeah she started with a powerglide, but I could be wrong but I thought I saw James flippin the handles of a 5 speed planetary gear set just before she got hurt. Garrett's got so many irons in the fire it's hard to keep up.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

@@kittty2005 that's in McFlurry, the fox body Mustang they just built.

[@Flitzer514]

I believe there is a nation shortage of track prep compound. Some German company made a vital component of track compound, but they had issues with people getting sick manufacturing it, so they stopped. For Covid, I am vaccinated and boosted and I guess I got the Omicron variant, and it kicked my ass. I was only really sick for 2 or 3 days, but it just lingered-on forever, for like 2 months or so.

[@shadowopsairman1583]

I had covid in 2020-Had Fever, Sweats, no taste/smell for 2 days in 2020. Family got it. Only got 1 Jab last year and cancelled the other. Haven't been sick other than a cold 2 months ago. Coworkers got both jabs and been getting Sick with covid...

[@Flitzer514]

@@shadowopsairman1583 I follow the recommendations of the CDC. I do not promote anyone follow what I do.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

They assured us that they would have the track prepped with radial prep in spite of the traction compound shortage. It was not. Lol

[@Angrymaninmidland.]

Starting to like the channel so I subbed ❤️

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Thanks!

[@itsdarooster8160]

He such a smart dude and like easy to understand

[@kevin2960]

All the horsepower in the world doesn't matter if you can't get it to the track. The little thing sometimes matter more than anything else

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Yep. For sure. Sometimes you get dealt a bad hand too.

[@sanger440]

Buy a built powerglide and be done with it. You will need an overdrive for sick week long haul whether a PG or turbo400 anyway. So hear vendors probably the way to go.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

I could have a pretty awesome 4l80e for the price of a gear vendors and it will probably last longer, and have lockup and more overdrive. I'd rather go that direction.

[@jpgasper]

Can we please, please, please get a set of slot mags for the front of the datsun

[@Calvin-Nelson]

We probably won't be able to find the right offset unfortunately

[@prochargedmopar591]

👍🏼💪🏼

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Good meeting you bud!

[@prochargedmopar591]

@@Calvin-Nelson Maybe next time under a LESS frustrating situation. LOL.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

@@prochargedmopar591 Yep. We'll do better preparing next time!

[@rickybailey7123]

Bring your own prep put wipers sprayers to spray the back tires and when u do a burn out spray tru the rolling burn out past the tree will prep the track and no one will know

[@Calvin-Nelson]

We were promised radial prep. Didn't think we needed to get creative.

[@cesargomez1637]

Unfortunate

[@thomaslynch2083]

Have you ever heard of a clutchflite

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Yes.

[@soundwavesaudio1]

Datsun 420z😂

[@jdcustomz]

#facts.

[@600wheel]

Nope no broken parts but I got a Ford😂I’m sorry your piece of chevy broke

[@Calvin-Nelson]

When you're only making 300hp, I guess stuff stays together for a long time.

[@Stevesbe]

Seems you need a new transmission builder guy

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Yet to be determined. I want to learn these things myself.

[@paulz2641]

I hated this build

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Thanks man

[@600wheel]

Go stick shift! Drive like a man😂😂

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Working on doing that on one of the current projects.

[@600wheel]

@@Calvin-Nelson that’s fantastic I was just playing but believe me stick shift is a whole lot more fun And they can be fast right now grub worm at FL 2K is running in the 6.70’s

[@Calvin-Nelson]

@@600wheel I saw that. Very cool.

[@mattyblanchard5905]

Charge the track for a tranny r+r

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Nope. Crap happens. We just got the short end of the stick.

[@paulz2641]

Stupid build, straight 6, here's why Trying to make too much power with 2 less cylinders Doing things not easily done Hard to get parts Unproven engine Frustration Failures Bloodviking master engine is

[@Calvin-Nelson]

That's hotrodding.

[@paulz2641]

These guys don't know what they are doing

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Ok

[@paulz2641]

Clearly not a race motor. Lol

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Neither is a Cadillac 500