More detailed breakdown of the characters. Sub - kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4DUg56qiZqFa8U Geras - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZuqqHywqdKGsMk Takeda - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYvHlK2sd7Rlhqc
@dennisa6349Ай бұрын
The reality is every character is low tier for me because I’m not able to execute consistently.
@MastermindRellАй бұрын
Tragic!
@GarlicThe2ndАй бұрын
Not tragic, understanding. Now, you can take the steps to be able to play well consistently, but only if you are willing.
@tramerecornelius7569Ай бұрын
Turn on some music and lab my boi
@CivokerАй бұрын
mah boi ur just awful
@PewPewShootEmUpАй бұрын
Try to land a smaller version of the optimal combo consistently before the hsrder version
@KYPspikesАй бұрын
Honestly for me it's 2 factors - Inability to work with many kameos - No reliable ways to open up opponents
@Error_NINEАй бұрын
This...
@earlthepearl6414Ай бұрын
That is a great way of looking at it. I agree. I also look at how many bad matchups a character has.
@christianhenry4173Ай бұрын
Extra added to what you said - No other way to block an Arial combo if your intrinsic meter is used up on 3 bars - Can't use a fatal blow whenever it's fully charged. The fatal blow is determined once the opponent is either in defense or in 10 second delay of a combo. Which means you have a 10% chance of saving yourself in the game - I'm sorry but Netherrealm studios needs to nerf the Upblock blocking system. Because if you get punished for an overhead, you can't defend yourself from an easy mistake - Prevent simple trips, and pokes. - Every character should have a teleport option from the corner in case you are stuck in the corner. This trick will be highly affective against Johnny Cage, Reiko, General Shao, Liu Kang, baraaka, Kenshi, and smoke or lei mei. - Remove the kameo option for both opponents.
@Chadsgameroom13Ай бұрын
Shang has top zoning in the game. He rewards you by learning all the characters ;because, he can change into his opponent and do more damage. He's also about to steal kameo moves for free. Some are really good like kameo Sektor's uppercut.
@damionbaxter4912Ай бұрын
It's pretty much 1 factor how many kameos can a character utilize properly at high level. The fewer you can access the more problems your character has. Sub can use 1 kameo at high level. Johnny can use all of them and still be meta.
@Error_NINEАй бұрын
Shang's forms aren't a as much a hinderance as you are making it out to be because you can switch the forms mid string/combo/special. Heck you can switch form on startup so the character is basically 1 character with extra steps so your take on him being bad because he isn't one character is wrong lol. I get the feeling that you either havnt faced/watched a good shang or dont fully know his kit. He is mid mid tier at least
@supersmexypeanutbutter3174Ай бұрын
Mid tier is crazy
@Error_NINEАй бұрын
@supersmexypeanutbutter3174 let's actually look at it.. the only tool he doesn't have (understably) is a launching overhead. all his strings are safe on block, good zoning, armored launch with some kameos, then he can literally morph for more damage.
@RyanJamesOfficialАй бұрын
I’m so happy you’re back making content
@Chadsgameroom13Ай бұрын
17:50. It was meant to be jumped in on. Imagine a Takeda player just spamming that move with a Sub-Zero kameo. It's a good move. Making it were no one can jump on you, with the range would make it too op
@Synical0215 күн бұрын
No it shouldn't be able to be jumped in on especially logically with how he's performing the move. Gameplay wise This is supposed his pressure, his way of controlling space which it can if you go against inexperienced people, but most experienced people will just outright ignore or walk away from the move. - It's too slow, and if they block it mid range you are open cause it's so negative on block . - Highly weak to armor - and jump ins in this game are very strong cause most characters can capitalize on them for full combos. - Also look at other characters Like noob he literally has everything
@JosephDGuedesАй бұрын
So I can tell that be a low tier in this game is a really good spot. Takeda, Shang and Geras can be very useables and strong in a good level depending on the player. They’re not HL, Sindel, Johnny and Kenshi level but they can be useful
@earlthepearl6414Ай бұрын
Go watch Domoralize, he makes Geras look elite tier. It's disgusting how good he makes Geras look.
@bryanbridges6152Ай бұрын
Exactly
@antione4543Ай бұрын
I think geras is hard to use/combos are just weird- damage scaling etc and thats why he gets mixed reviews on him bein low tier or high tier. I still play him though. But i think your assessment is fair to say. I always thought the top tier characters were the ones that dont really need kameos in this game( ashrah, homelander, lui, mileena, johnny, noob, kitana, sindel, maybe there is more) honestly I just like hearing everyones perspective because it makes me re look at characters in this game. keep it up bro bro 🤙🏾🤙🏾
@alexbazukaАй бұрын
Bro u can use takeda with a lot of kameos , and for sub zero with kameleon , no one is falling for those combos anymore lol
@damionbaxter4912Ай бұрын
Switch to lao with sub. Orbit hat gives him a combo off every poke and the damage isn't bad 35 to 38% its also plus 9 on block and interrupts turn take backs. You have hard to block setups and armor break setups. Low hat helps against quan and the cooldown is great.
@alexbazukaАй бұрын
@ i really thought about it but I can’t stand Lao
@damionbaxter4912Ай бұрын
@alexbazuka well you're options are either sektor or Darrius then
@unr34L-Ай бұрын
What about Quan? You should also talk about launch day Quan cuz he was so bad lol.
@KylomationgamingАй бұрын
Takeda can do grab combos on his own, his star can detonate if u throw it down and grab after
@hanitschiАй бұрын
oki explicitly refers to wakeup game, like how good your meaty options are, it's heavily linked of course, but the what you're defining is closer to loops/setplay/vortex, isn't it?
@RodneyDevossАй бұрын
No he’s describing oki. Your meaty game isn’t good if you aren’t close enough to do it, and have options. Geras wasn’t close enough to grab, not close enough to do the low. His options are very limited at that range
@hanitschiАй бұрын
@@RodneyDevoss i think we're on the same side here, at 5:50 nick says oki is "when you do something and get put back in an advantageous position", that could also be a plus frame restand for example
@RodneyDevossАй бұрын
@@hanitschi pretty much, but I’d consider combos that lead into set play/ vortex/ and loops oki. And it’s no sides man, I was just trying to explain what I believed he meant and try to answer your question
@ajsoheartlessАй бұрын
You should fight some of these characters in KL before you make vids like this….gears can literally reverse time and get his health back non stop & also freeze you. Shang can literally copy your kameo moves, shift between 2 different versions of himself, use his own kameo, and turn into your character.😂
@Jspore-ip5rkАй бұрын
There are other factors you should take into consideration as well
@ShangjinkoАй бұрын
As a Shang Shujinko main, I approve this message, could he use some buffs , absolutely 💯, is he trash 🚮?, absolutely not
@ItstheRP-GАй бұрын
Keep it going nick!
@shinfitzАй бұрын
10:02 Shujinkidink would like a word with you, sir. 😝
@onehandstanceАй бұрын
As a wise shang once said OH SHIT
@onetopviewer9872Ай бұрын
I main Shang and I know exactly how to fix him but it’s a lot to type so I would have to make a video about it. I absolutely love this version but the execution didn’t exactly land the mark. I could fix it. 😭
@subzer082Ай бұрын
I know I definitely give my position on the matter away when you look at my name but I can argue Sub Zero as the most handicapped character (low tier) in the game. 1. Worst Damage scaling 2. Gaps in every one of his strings 3. Heavy Reliance on Kameo 4. Main move (ice ball) doesn’t combo
@joaohenriquerocha3425Ай бұрын
Reasons to play Shang huh? Challenge accepted: 1- becoming your opponent and playing their character better than them, stealing a brutal or doing a big combo 2- if u ever feel bored and don't know what character you wanna play, pick Shang because you can morph into anyone. He rewards full mastery of the roster 3- notice how all of my points up until now have been about the morph and not to defend Shangs move set, because yea he is shit, u right, but....yeah, no, I've got nothing I tried😂
@NickopzTVАй бұрын
Looool. This made my day.
@Blackoutpb14Ай бұрын
good video takeda can get a DF1 ex off his back 3 for a full combo but everything else you said I agree with they did somewhat buff his back 2 in the last patch but I feel it was better for some reason when they first released it and then silent nerfed it a bit and it hits less consistently in the air but maybe trippen lol
@davidpstАй бұрын
Well, There’s no low-tier characters as each becomes stronger after pairing with right kameo 🤷♂️
@jaxfanАй бұрын
Ill disagree until the end of time about sub. He starts the match at a disadvantage by being forced to use a cameo or meter to extrnd his combos. He has the lowest damage and hes the slowest. You can use ferra with shang or takeda to make up for the sub and khamelon argument
@Shlongest902Ай бұрын
Quan has lower damage but I see what you’re saying
@Sassi-vlАй бұрын
Quan is a zoner, it wouldn't make sense to have insane damage when he already has mix@Shlongest902
@CrilpFlorpАй бұрын
I might be coping cuz I only got active on MK for Takeda. I will say I am realizing how subjective tier lists are. I’m coming to the opinion Takeda is pretty alright because of tech I know that no one else talks about. I think tier lists are especially subjective in MK1 because the kameo system allows for a much more personal exploration for each character.
@Error_NINEАй бұрын
He's downplaying takeda hard
@volktol4432Ай бұрын
@@Error_NINEbig facts, I main Takeda/Smoke/Scorpion/Noob. Takeda is easily top 12
@talos4702Ай бұрын
I haven’t played him yet but I want to. Having fought him, I’d say sub cameo solves a lot of his problems given his darts. I’ve been using Jax lately and I think he works well with takeda given his ground control.
@zoldier3928Ай бұрын
hmm
@StankyTurtleMKАй бұрын
I dont care if PM isnt low tier. He's my favorite character so im gonna downplay him until he gets buffed
@mrstudent9125Ай бұрын
Shang is busted against Ferra though. Half screen command grab that does 22% with Madavado is very annoying to deal with.
@ShangjinkoАй бұрын
1. reason to play Shang = Lucas Khan
@Spongefreak_69Ай бұрын
A character is low tier if they don’t look cool 🐺
@Sassi-vlАй бұрын
The moment you say a character is only good with a paid dlc kameo which in this case khameleon, just goes to show how bad he is because when other characters choose that same kameo, you're cooked because khameleon helps low tiers while simultaneously making top tiers more busted.
@NickopzTVАй бұрын
Kham doesnt help everyone. Yall really have to stop saying this. She does nothing for lao, geras, havik, lei mei to name a few. Shes dumb but doesnt synergize perfectly with everyone.
@Sassi-vlАй бұрын
@NickopzTV she doesn't synergize with everyone(I didn't even say that), all I'm saying is that top characters like johny, homelander get more busted with. Except geras, I've labbed her with the others you mentioned and yes she gives them sauce, doesn't help their damage just like she doesn't for sub but they have naturally better damage anyways
@duyanh3641Ай бұрын
Mk1 khaos reign tier list pleaseeee
@MythicPlanetАй бұрын
Give Geras some justice please!!
@djvbeats8701Ай бұрын
Gears is broken, grr has proven this
@NickopzTVАй бұрын
Grr will tell you himself, geras is not broken. Go to twitter and ask him.
@djvbeats8701Ай бұрын
@NickopzTV duh he plays him lol, he not top 10 but he ain't bad. Ppl just don't play him how he supposed to be played. Grr does, Demoralize does
@isaiahacevedo541Ай бұрын
I think Li Mei is pretty low atp she doesn’t really have anything other than damage, her range is awful. She’s still better than maybe a handful of characters but I think she’s at least bottom 5. Tanya low too now.
@Twisted_OzzyАй бұрын
Ain't no way Takeda is low tier with Sektor
@JayGaming-p2uАй бұрын
What do you mean when you say low tier? Do you mean they are easy to play? Or just a trash character all around? Plz explain.
@JayGaming-p2uАй бұрын
Nvm I see at 4:00 you answered, a low tier character is just subjective “TO YOU” got it 👍🏾
@iamb0nk3rsАй бұрын
2-in-1 character? Nah, less than 1 in 2 character lmfao
@jaxfanАй бұрын
Peacemaker low tier?????
@kazeshini7286Ай бұрын
Takeda is not lowtier stop the cap
@NickopzTVАй бұрын
Come beat me with him. Drop the wb name.
@DB-bq6zcАй бұрын
Scorpion definitely low tier. 1 no mixes. No, B3 is mid low, not a low low 2. Relies on 1 kameo to open up effectively. 3. All his specials are unsafe except for his teleport cancel which cost bar.
@kazeshini7286Ай бұрын
He’s not lowtier, as a scorp main without ferra he’s probably top 10