10 Cards I Got COMPLETELY Wrong in My Old Set Reviews | Magic: the Gathering | Nizzanotes #20

[@mattc4899]

Would it be possible to do the 10 worst cards that have at least 1 point in your scoring system? I'd like to see what weird cards have made it into competitive lists.

[@dustinpalmer]

I like this idea

[@mattblom3990]

The story I always tell my friends is early in my Magic days pulling a Tarmogyf from a booster pack and thinking it was such an offensively bad card I instantly threw it in the garbage can. Not a great choice in retrospect.

[@Izuyoi7215]

Ouch

[@bgcno2]

#pain

[@DelValle144]

I feel pain.

[@kh1129]

I've never been so disgusted with a card, that I just threw it in a garbage can lol.

[@gunn25]

When Alliances came out NO ONE liked Force of Will. They were 'trash'.

[@Necr0Phi1e]

One of the reasons you are top of my list for set reviews is how data driven you are while still offering a no-nonsense practical evaluation. This is gold.

[@NizzahonMagic]

Thanks!

[@tonythepokemonguy751]

I’d love to see one about old school cards, a prime example is me not thinking Serra Sanctum and Tolarian Academy was good when they first came out

[@Wojtek36762]

I pulled a Tolarian Academy in a pack when I was 11. I was used to seeing Antiquities-era artifacts that totally sucked and couldn’t imagine how someone would play enough of them to make Academy good, no idea what I did with it 😭

[@haikumagician4363]

He has videos on bad cards he thought were good, and another for good cards he thought were bad.

[@Ceryn1126]

I think Helm is easy to miss since you get the duplicate at the BEGINNING OF COMBAT. If it were at the BEGINNING OF TURN than it would probably be much harder to stick the effect and might be something like your typical "win more" card.

[@adancein]

I really want to put Indestructibility on my opponents Experimental Frenzy, just for the lols. Because its last ability doesn't say "sacrifice [cardname]".

[@Kasamori]

Grafdigger's Cage + Pithing Needle ;)

[@adancein]

@@Kasamori Oooof yeah lol

[@Kasamori]

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[@brendans1983]

Indestructible on Nev's Disk is pretty yuck too 🤘

[@kennethmurray9003]

I think you reviews on cards you got "wrong" videos are the best learning tools for anyone that loves magic. To have one that goes back through your career is 1RR instant from Modern Horizon's 2. Thanks (btw, miss your history channel)

[@StarlitWitchy]

That pun smh haha

[@JoeKell365]

i like how this is basically a crossover of Nizzahon's two best series, being MTG Top 10s and Nizza-Notes all in one

[@kh1129]

I felt the same about Helm of the Host at first. I was in a Dominaria draft and it was passed to me. For whatever reason I took it (I guess everything else in that pack was awful). When we got to the building our deck portion I remember looking at it (like pulling it into my face) and thinking, "Idk if I should run this, it seems bad, but screw it, it'll be funny." Boy, I was wrong. Game one I put it on Skittering Surveyor and just filtered my deck of lands. I remember my opponent getting so frustrated because my deck was so thin at the end of one of the games. Game two (opponent two) I put it on Yavimaya Shaperd and my board was flooded with fungus and saprolings. I remember this game distinctly because my opponent had Karn and cast it twice in one game (graveyard shenanigans). Had it not been for HotH I would have definitely lost, but those tokens and fungus overwhelmed Karn (and the player eventually) on both casts. Game three (opponent three) I was able to get HotH on Cloudreader Sphinx and scrying 2 every combat phase was super juicy. Plus I had a free 3/4 flyer every turn. Needless to say HotH allowed me to go undefeated that day. Some people were talking to me about my deck after the game and I realized I read HotH wrong. Turns out every token has HASTE!!! I was so impressed that it got around the Legendary ruling, that I overlooked that small detail (and I just assumed populating every turn was enough, why would these tokens have/need haste?) Omg, I would have won even faster had I known that information. Lol, always RTFK!

[@PinguTuan]

I always play arena cube with my friend over discord and he fully refuses to believe helm is a playable card. I just keep saying man it was so broken in draft though and he just laughs at me and picks a two drop or something.

[@kh1129]

@@PinguTuan lol

[@Lovuschka]

It is fine to be wrong, as long as you have the courage to correct your mistakes. You are a courageous man, Nizzahon! Keep on doing the good MTG work!

[@timstiteler4817]

It says a lot when you are willing to admit how wrong you are without just trying to make a bunch of excuses. Even taking MTG out of the mix it was still a good video of reflection

[@FoggyMemoryProductions]

I remember playing with Profane Procession during Pre-release for Rivals of Ixalan and it being really good. I had it in a Orzhov deck playing with Tetzimoc as my bomb. Didn't end up with a Vampire deck per se but it was good enough to get me a 3-1 record. And most of my victories were thanks to Profane Procession. Always having a form of removal that can eventually let me put a huge hard to get rid of creature form my opponent's possession was better then I expected. No really input on the subject, I just wanted to share a fond memory I had with a card you discussed about in this video.

[@joelmonteiro1419]

Happens to the best. I remember a Betrayers of Kamigawa review by Kai Budde where he rated Jitte a 1/5. I never found out if he was joking or not, but the review came out alongside the set.

[@PinguTuan]

LSV tells a story about drafting jitte and nearly not putting it in his deck cos he couldn't tell if it was good or not, then drawing it later and looking at the board and realising how unbelievably broken it is

[@jzoobs]

Honestly, if nothing else this video feels like a good testament to your skill with card evaluation. You're right way more often than you're wrong

[@strawhataddison]

I had the EXACT same thoughts on Sorcerer Class and Snubhorn Sentry both.

[@riccardocalosso5688]

Sorcerer class would have been amazing, if they brought back the adventure mechanic from eldraine in afr, but alas, they didn't.

[@arcisle5162]

This was awesome! It’s cool seeing how cards compare across sets.

[@bastokrepublic]

Thank you for doing these, I learn a lot about the kinds of mistakes I make in card evaluation by hearing about yours. Judging a card for Limited before ever playing the format might be the most challenging evaluation you can make in Magic.

[@mildlemon4141]

Ascent of the worthy did have a use in kaldheim, looping with master skald. It was decent there. Not great to throw into a random deck, but it did have a role

[@nickalasmontano1496]

2 Fs going to As isn't too bad given just how many cards you've reviewed! Great video as always

[@ChristopherLongTheGamer]

My favorite memory of a Magic event was a Store Championship with M20. Sealed gave me a decent UW Flyers deck, but it also gave me Flood of Tears and Drakuseth. In every match, I was able to pull this off and put Drakuseth out for free, and no surprise, I won the event. It's a great example of how an ideal situation can happen and how that shouldn't impact a card's rating.

[@mella4376]

Yeah this kind of retrospective is delightful

[@Yokosumari23]

Love the content, Nizzahon. Any plans on doing a Top 10 Pauper?

[@brendans1983]

A card that slipped under my radar and absolutely dominated M21 draft was Brash Taunter. It's hard to explain just how difficult it was to work around it, but it wasn't fun! The fact that it could fight ur biggest threat but throw the damage back at you without dying was nasty, especially when combined with early game damage red usually throws down. Then there was the fact u couldn't cast your own big creatures if it was already on the board cos they'd just punch you with it first... I've never loved getting smashed by a card so much haha

[@Stonewren]

I'm pretty sure Ascent of the Worthy was one of those cards designed by a pro tour champion, and the result is something that doesn't actually fit Kaldheim's worldbuilding very well. The valkyrie don't appear to be ascended human warriors: They're pairs of sisters whose names are inverses of each other. It seems unlikely that valkyrie all had human names before they got paired up. The card's flavor really only works if it's representating one specific hero who ascended as a special case. Or I'm just being silly in assuming the resurrected Angel Warrior is supposed to represent the same character as the scapegoat from the first two chapters.

[@Stonewren]

@@rowannagy3033 But why is the risen champion given the Angel Warrior creature type if it's not becoming an angel in a literal sense? That specific aspect only makes sense if it's supposed to be a valkyrie hopping down onto the battlefield to scoop up the soul of the damage scapegoat, and we're meant to ignore that the valkyrie is represented in gameplay by some random dude from your graveyard. Again we have the issue that we can't take the entire rules text as 100% flavorfully accurate, and are instead forced to prune away the figurative elements that don't fit into Kaldheim's cosmology and worldbuilding.

[@obsplays5311]

Helm of the Host. The reason this card is so completely back breaking is that you HAVE to remove the Helm or be so far ahead that the opponent copying their best creature every turn won't stop you from winning. You CANNOT beat this card with removal as the Helm player can just untap and play a five or four drop and not equip while you sit on your removal spell. Then the next turn you are in the exact same situation, go over the Helm, remove it or lose to token flood.

[@TheHive616]

Snubhorn Sentry was one I was also surprised by. Ixalan ended up having a very easy time getting to the City's Blessing, there were quite a few small dino tokens and a LOT of treasure popping up, so that format was kinda big on going wide, even incidentally. It's very cool seeing how different formats can change so quickly between releases

[@grrrama]

Ascent wasn’t an F or unplayable. As others have pointed out, it’s a 3 mana reanimate with suspend 2, that loops with the Skald. It wasn’t great, but it was good in the right deck, a niche role-player.

[@TheHive616]

"it's just a fog, kind of a bad, weird fog that doesn't work the way you want it to..." I dunno why, but that made me laugh quite a bit.

[@ItsMeBeeee]

That's one of my favorite things about Magic is the nuance in each card that can teeter it between unplayable and too strong.

[@metzby]

Also, arena's draft bots at the beginning of eldraine didn't take merfolk secret keepers, so the mill deck was super open for folio of fancies.

[@sagacious03]

Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

[@riccardocalosso5688]

Ascent of the worthy is pretty much a 3 mana reanimation spell with suspend 2. I know it sucked in its format, but i feel like it really shouldn't have. Weird how it turned out...

[@ohno8569]

Great video. It takes real self-respect to admit when you're wrong. Good on ya' brougham...

[@ianlawrence8343]

Loved this episode. Self reflection is important.

[@endlesstidesofphyrexia4357]

I would love to see a video where you look back at cards that you really wanted to work, they just didn't. I loved this video by the way, we all look at cards differently. 👍

[@worf7680]

Love these types of videos.

[@joeycote480]

Ascent of the Worthy in a set with the regeneration mechanism would have been pretty potent.

[@ninjaest1992]

I'd like to see a set versus set all of Ravnica, Avacyn, etc. Since they have multiple of them which sets are most powerful over all.

[@ryanwonderschool]

Profane Procession is 3 + 5 manas and not 8 as you correctly said. Playable turn 3 and then can be activated on turn 5 in most normal limited

[@NizzahonMagic]

Fact

[@Dazllingston]

Can someone explain, why is sorcerer class that bad? I don't play Magic very much, but isn't a level 3, basically, a storm-like effect?

[@stefanoderosa9506]

It is VERY clunky, level 1 is a faithless looting effect that is not generally as good in limited as it is in constructed. Level 2, as Nizzahon explained, requires having both many creatures and many instants or sorceries and that is almost impossible in limited. Level 3 is the worst of the bunch since, by the time that you reach it it is pretty much just "each instant or sorcery that you play deals one damage to your opponent" that is not great and furthermore while building to that you would be massively behind on board.

[@tmakalpha1]

@@stefanoderosa9506 i thought level 3 was like Sentinel Tower? Whenever you cast instant/sorcery, deal damage equal to however many instants/sorceries you cast earlier this turn?

[@stefanoderosa9506]

@@tmakalpha1 yes but in limited by the turn you reach level 3 it would be really rare to chain together more than a couple instants or sorceries

[@stefanoderosa9506]

@@tmakalpha1 and it is to face only that makes it very bad

[@Dazllingston]

@@stefanoderosa9506 oh, he is reviewing for limited, not constructed, my bad. Thanks!

[@caseywellington4761]

Good video, good topic

[@pyrefox]

Where are the descriptions of the letter grades?? D:

[@AkukAkuku]

This self-correcting really positively distinguishes you from other limited content creators.

[@hiebram]

I would like to see "Top 10 Unpopular Picks I got EXACTLY RIGHT" because I know KZbin/Twitch chat gives you static for some of your ratings.

[@NizzahonMagic]

That's a good idea haha

[@sxztube]

I can’t find the letter explanations in the description, am I looking in the wrong place?

[@jomipomi1335]

To be fair, I don't know a single person who didn't underestimate the power of experimental frenzy🤷🏻‍♂️

[@dtelad11]

Meta-accountability!!

[@ryanwonderschool]

Flood of tears : How would you have 4 permanents in a blue (non RU) deck PLUS a big thing to put in play. The card seems like a non combo in itself ? :(

[@NizzahonMagic]

You could return a thing that got bounced, but yeah, it never happened anyway

[@mfsoab]

Helm of the host totally rips in equipment decks, especially in commander, since it's creating non legendary copies and the eqip cost is heavily reduced by other cards. Flood of tears is nice in decks with Ashaya, where all your creatures become lands. With a good boardstate it basically becomes an i win button.

[@kaseybennett7415]

These are for limited not commander

[@mfsoab]

@@kaseybennett7415 Yeah, i know that he is almost exclusively reviewing with limited in mind. My comment was not meant as criticism, just my general opinion on these two cards ^.~

[@kaseybennett7415]

@@mfsoab okay, got it :)

[@RafaelAAMerlo]

Wow, I didn't knew Ascent of the Worthy was that bad. Kaldheim was one of the sets I had my best performance and that saga was consistently good for me, I had no clue that it was all an anedoctal experience

[@sliverbysliver]

I thought the ultimatums would be here. F to helm of the host XDXD

[@tmmrtn]

> 2050 > "10 Cards I Got Wrong in My Old Set Reviews of My Old Set Reviews"

[@dtelad11]

Only now occurred to me: is that Tehila in the frame behind you?

[@NizzahonMagic]

Yep!

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

For me: Ragavan, man was I wrong LOL

[@crcrcrcrcrcrcr1473]

You forgot to put the letter grade explanation in the description.

[@Dubstepper]

Either I am crazy or just I don't play ranked but I really liked AOTW.

[@Candy-yh2qq]

The folio is still an F, no clue how you could say c+ 😂😂

[@obsplays5311]

Oh sweet innocent child.

[@ryanwonderschool]

pirate equipment - don't blame yourself too hard on such mistake, when a set comes out you don't necessarily have time to check out all creatures types and their effects in depth before scoring the card. Very legitimate mistake imo

[@NizzahonMagic]

I mean, I knew it would equip for free pretty often, and I still underrated it haha

[@barryswigart1432]

It's very confusing that you thought Ascent of the Worthy was playable lol

[@NizzahonMagic]

It is funny how many people in the comments are telling me it WAS playable. Haha

[@volosguidetomonsters3440]

He first picked the F about a year later in the early stages of another format

[@DUxMORTEM]

Could be worse. You could have predicted grave titan to be awful despite its success and still deny it to this day like nitpicking nerds.

[@shreksmyhomie2419]

I hate that about them

[@MrDamojak]

Lool

[@jacobbrown9894]

I mean they do just speak in 6-8 power level EDH with the Grave Titan talk, where it is a bit lacking if you don’t like stick it early and swing repeatedly (even the combo stuff is better served by Sengir Autocrat who is two cheaper and has an extra body on etb)

[@MrDamojak]

@@jacobbrown9894 cope

[@jacobbrown9894]

@@MrDamojak 👈😚👈

[@ItsDangerousGoAlone]

Some people thought oko was not going to be playable or average at best. At least you are not those guys

[@NizzahonMagic]

I did give it a B, so I underrated it haha. But yeah not as badly as these

[@Rancidtunip]

Niv mizit is one of my favorite cards ever in constructed.

[@dennismonk9559]

your number one is probably a C or C- in BRO? too fast to be as good as it was originally

[@mikotagayuna8494]

These transgressions are completely unacceptable. As for your punishment, you shall hereby continue making such videos for us to enjoy and be sufficiently chastised by our increasing subscriptions and overall engagement.

[@breawycker]

Muhahaha

[@JAS82]

love the content ... but I cringe every time he says "wrongest". lol

[@staggerlee2774]

Ugh thank you for saying it.

[@lavandereisly4194]

You said your ratings would be explained in the descriptions, but they're very much not.

[@CoL_Drake]

I liked ascent of the worthy. No bomb but 3 mana reanimate in 2 turns with flying us nice and even gives ur bombs kinda protection as any death of them would be negated soon. I still pick it like 3rd pick

[@scottargo2152]

Wrongest isn't a word.

[@NizzahonMagic]

Cool

[@stepniak18]

I watch your reviews since M20 and I think that much to often you take mana investment value and you talk about it almost as it was a mana cost. You misrated many equipments and card with activated abilities this way. Sometimes the effect is just worth it.

[@NizzahonMagic]

I do think I do that sometimes, like with the BW card on this list, but taking into account the cost of equip and such is pretty important.

[@dynosgarcia7645]

Well then, there's no explanation in the description so tose letters don't mean jack shit anyways

[@jamesgilmore431]

Do you mean the most wrong?

[@javierpatag3609]

Letter grades... You have a PhD in History and a minor in English or Literature... Besides this channel, is teaching your other job, Nizzahon? Or, duh, you *obviously do* since you've got a PhD...

[@shikabaneconga]

whats the use of this? "cards i got wrong, heres my first grade, then my second grade, according to me they either suck or dont" like... wut?

[@gunnertlc7728]

He is just showing which cards he really got wrong. Its just a fun video.

[@weegeelinguini3704]

He's able to admit when he's wrong, which is a rare quality

[@crooker23]

He's looking at his own evaluation process, which ideally you could use to reflect on your process. Knowing when there might be an exception to a common limited heuristic can make a big difference early in a format

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

Self-reflection on his evaluation process. Looking at the line of thinking that lead to a wrong conclusion and understand which logic was incorrect can help in future evaluations of new cards, both for himself and the viewers. That, and it's refreshing in general to see people being candid in admitting their own mistake.

[@Dubstepper]

Either I am crazy or just I don't play ranked but I really liked AOTW.