Philadelphia Subways! - SEPTA TrAcSe 2011

[@MMendelG]

The stations are so well lit and clean! Nothing like what I remember growing up there in the late '50's and '60's! Thanks for this.

[@timosha21]

love SEPTA - has some of the most interesting transportation out there!

[@eyestoenvy]

Immaculately maintained rolling stock, and the MFL's really takes off (excellent torque) .....

[@mingotubman3790]

man thank you for showing the old spur line stations!

[@italobambino43]

Mingo Tubman the Spur might phase in to History, although, with the renovation of the old Lorraine Hotel at Broad and Fairmount, this could give at least two stations on the Spur a leg up.

[@italobambino43]

One thing I explain to some people, in response to their question; why didn't Philadelphia build more Subways? plainly, both the Reading and Pennsylvania Railroads built extensive Commuter Railway Systems which served not only the surrounding Suburbs, but even the more remote Neighborhoods within the City. At the Turn of the Century Philadelphia was called Railroad City. You had the Pennsylvania, Reading and Baltimore & Ohio, all with Terminals and Hubs Downtown. in North Philadelphia both the Reading and Pennsylvania had satellite Stations built shortly after the turn of the Century to accommodate the growing population. in 1901, when the city approved funding to build a Subway, the PRT was not first in line offering to build it, the Subway- Elevated opened in 1907, it served both the Township of Darby, in Delaware County, as well as West Philadelphia and Center City. The PRT was content with operating its extensive network of Streetcars, but upon the Subways completion, and wS two years of its opening, the Market Street Subway was overwhelmed with riders. One thing I was never clear on, not sure if the City's decision to build a Subway was to eliminate the Streetcars on Market Street, this was certainly Boston's plight, they truly wanted to eleviate the surface congestion in their downtown. Philadelphia finally did away with Trolley service on Market Street, by 1957.

[@alden5931]

It's not quite the right _shape_ for a new subway; and metros are expensive. With SEPTA's dithering and constant lack of funding nothing would ever happen. Still, the Roosevelt Blvd subway will never die. That thing will never leave the back of the mind of Philadelphia, even if it never gets built.

[@Thatgamingdiary]

There were plans for a more expansive system, WW1 slowed it down, The Great Depression killed it, & WW2 killed all remaining hope that was left after 1930 or any rebuilding hope to build the subway lines.

[@quillbin4065]

I have always had a soft spot for the Philly Subways. It's a limited system for sure but the regional rail network makes SEPTA truly unique in the US.

[@italobambino43]

QuillBin The Philadelphia Subway Stations all had double trolley lines. Some say the Trolley network back in the 30's fed the Subway, well, I think it was the other way around.

[@italobambino43]

QuillBin Its a complicated Subway network for being small, yes Regional Rail and the Patco Connections make it very unique. It also takes you as far north as Trenton and as far south as Wilmington, De. Its also an odd subway because the MFL is wider guage, the BSS is standard Railroad guage.

[@lorumipsum1129]

@@italobambino43 I wonder what septa would have too do if they did a expansion of the subway network. Would it be the newer gauge or would it remain pa trolley based.

[@cee-lopreen6754]

Mark Conti only the septa part of it is small.

[@fredpohl5202]

Kawasaki letting the good times roll

[@sorrymom1228]

I'm a train conductor

[@demetriamiller5771]

I love this video so much whoever made that you are the best

[@DashTransit]

Thank you so much!

[@italobambino43]

the facts about the original fleet of cars, almost 99.9 %of the original cars were running till 1976, the summer of the Bicentennial was busy in the city, however, a really bad summer storm flooded a section of tunnel in North Philly and the cars ran through the flooded tunnel and it ruined many of the old traction motors, up until that point they rewired and rebuilt those massive motors to keep the fleet running.

[@tinkydog8726]

There were two attempts to create a larger system. I'm not sure of the dates , I believe its was in the early 1950's. One in West Philly and one down the route of the Roosevelt blvd. If you are ever around the Roosevelt blvd. at Whitaker ave and look in the center of the blvd you can see the entrance going under ground . there is a platform and the beginnings of tunnels. They decided not to do it. But with the traffic jammed during rush hour , perhaps they should of done it. And the best cars were the ones made by the Budd company circa 1921. Those units were still in service in the early 1980's. Those were subway cars, you couldn't destroy them

[@DashTransit]

All the Market Frankford Line Cars are married pairs, including the work cars 1033/1034. Something I learned about the numbering is the patterns they are hooked up in too. For example, 1 is always hooked up to 2, 3 to 4, 5 to 6, 7 to 8, and 9 to 0. For example; 1002 and 1001 is coupled up, and 1211 is coupled up to 1212. Never do they actually switch up the sets on these trains...

[@kajaymajay8233]

Will there be more subway lines in Philly?

[@italobambino43]

some of the parts came from New York City I heard, they ran similar trains that vintage, it was interesting to see the old cars run in the 70's, you had the 26 ex Camden bridge cars incorporated in to the fleet, they were built in 1932 and were used on the Ben Franklin Bridge, sometimes they used them on the Ridge to 8th, or Ridge Avenue Subway. when you rode the Patco in the 70's, when you rounded the curve under 8th street to go out to the bridge, you saw the tracks were connected.

[@italobambino43]

to the Ridge avenue subway, in time they disconnected the switches and fenced off the tunnel, a barrier of sorts to sepparate the two lines. The city still owns the Locust Street subway and the stations, Patco leases the tunnel from 16 th and Locust to the foot of the bridge on the Philadelphia side.

[@DashTransit]

@jalfredl Operations wise that wouldn't make sense because PATCO is run by the Delaware River Port Authority, whereas SEPTA is operated on it's own (with state funding). Plus, PATCO is looking to eventually sell off the Lindenwold line...

[@micahthegamer3770]

I catch both of these trains every day

[@penguinmaster7]

the septa isn't my most favorite system, but i always liked the way you could see to the next station in certain spots.

[@TrainSounds]

NO I think PATCO should be operated by SEPTA.

[@italobambino43]

TrainSounds are you out of your mind? Patco is run very efficiently and if Septa took it over, it would become a Cesspool.

[@italobambino43]

I rode the subway back when they had the pre war cars from 1928 and 1932, my father used to take me for rides on the weekend, the subway was dingy in the 70's, they didn't start cleaning it up agressively till the early 80's. the Kawasaki's arrived when I was about to graduate from high school, early 1983. As the new cars arrived, you saw less and less of the older Brill and pressed steel cars, they phased them out very casually.

[@yaggy9]

The stock septa uses have very graceful stops and starts unlike many of the new york lines. Maybe they're just newer, not sure.

[@jalfredl]

@TrainSounds Definitely!! The reason why wrote that comment was that i previously felt Septa cared more about their about their regional and bus lines than their subway. Now, it would be cool if septa took over patco, then there would be three lines: orange, blue, and red

[@italobambino43]

They use the Ridge avenue line more today than they did in the 70's, I rode it a few times back then, however, it wasn't running regularly back then because of the crime vandalism.

[@vivianortiz4710]

I LIKE THE MARKET FRANKFORD LINE AND THE BROAD STREET LINE

[@Harveycartoonlvr11]

You can see the CTA (Chicago Transit Authority) "L" (no, not the "EL" lingo that is used there) design influence that was used on the color marker locations on the front these cars....but I like the fact they also have the color "BLUE" as one of the marker colors, while CTA does not in their arrangement of color marker lights. Does anyone know the scheme for setting their markers up for locations on the Orange Line there?

[@sorrymom1228]

Orange line and Blue Line train the best

[@Thatgamingdiary]

Hate to be that guy but the that’s not their official names

[@malachimuhammad-dy2ow]

I love express trains on the Broad Street Line. They provide a faster ride making 8 stops along that line.

[@trackwerkOG]

The B-IV cars never used to have that high-picthed sound. That sound, from what I heard, is this "new technology" that feeds power back into the system when braking. I am pretty sure the B-IV cars have GE propulsion since when they reach high speeds they produce this whining sound, much like the MTA'a R46 subway cars.

[@merccadoosis8847]

Great stuff, Dash.

[@timosha21]

@jalfredl but SEPTA has no technical jurisdiction in NJ since the PATCO travels mostly in NJ... South Eastern PENNSYLVANIA transit authority is from a different state than NJ... That would never happen - sadly NJ would not allow it...

[@shadzmotionless6841]

Septa should take over PATCO

[@MalachiMuhammad-xg4xx]

What? No!

[@glennparker4428]

I.love.that.video. I.took.a.amtrak.train.from.baltimore.to.philly..been.on septa.subway.to.and.from.franklin.mills.malls.

[@GamerRobYT]

I.also.love.this.video

[@LeonMaxton]

I kinda miss the full orange cars thingymabob (which is at 0:01)

[@TakoElevators]

I know what propulsion the septa m4 sounds like, but not the septa b-iv. Septa m4 uses bombardier mitrac, but what propulsion does septa b-iv use?

[@michelejames8160]

GUYS SAVE SEPTA SUBWAYS BEFORE PATCO TAKES OVER FOREVER 😭

[@DashTransit]

That's a thing? I didn't even know PATCO was planning on this tbh

[@Gojira160]

Michael, PATCO goes between New Jersey and Philadelphia. That is the only subway line PATCO operates

[@lordmegatrong1918]

If the trains were alive... Market Frankford Line: why am I getting stalked by this human? Broad street line: i got no clue. Market Frankford Line: I'd rather laugh at 15 being beaten by cars. Broad Street Line: ok. Wait. WHAT THE FRICK?!? Market Frankford Line: ignore what I said. I don't need 11 and 13 and 101 attacking me, and making me end up having to go to the repair shop. Broad Street Line: Okay, el.. uhhhhhhhhhhh. Why do I sense someone is watching me? Market Frankford Line: I don't know. Broad Street Line: I always feel like somebody's watching me, and I can get no privacy. Market Frankford Line: god, lord, help us all.

[@jalfredl]

I love the MFL and BSL!!! However, i feel that PATCO should take over those two lines, while Septa only controls their regional rails, buses and trolleys.

[@michelejames8160]

NO PATCO IS NOT TALKING OVER SEPTA SUBWAYS I HATE PATCO I WANT SEPTA TO TAKE OVER PATCO AND USE THERE TROLLYS AND COMMUTER!😡😡😡

[@michelejames8160]

LIKE DUDE

[@michelejames8160]

DASH WILL YOU THINK PATCO SHOULD TAKE OVER ALL SEPTA SUBWAYS

[@xRavai]

OH HELL NO NJ ALREADY HAS ENOUGH TRANSPORTATION

[@jalfredl]

@njt5329 I've never thought of the operational perspective of it....that's a shame for patco. Well, thanks for the info btw...

[@DashTransit]

@jalfredl No problem Btw, ignore that the comment was posted twice, youtube spazzed lol

[@malachimuhammad-dy2ow]

@DashTransit I wanna be an express engineer on the Broad Street Line.

[@fredpohl5202]

I saw Greg Mielke on here and Vince Jackubowski on prime time way to go guys

[@tameek173]

septa is the best like train and bus

[@cristophertorres4825]

Its good train

[@TheEline2733]

Every time I take the el, all I see is married pairs. Does the Market-Frankford Lune uses any single units?

[@italobambino43]

First off, is Philadelphia the garden spot of the East Coast? I'm possibly older than you, I've ridden on New York City Subways, and brother let me tell you, five Burroughs, over seven million inhabitants to move around, I would say the subways get a workout! Philadelphia has 1.6 Million if that, the highest transit fare in the country, and way less area to cover, what's up with that?

[@ambrosemilner]

Mark Conti way more than 1.6 million. but I agree, the subway system in NYC is my number one transit system. and I'm saying this and im also a train operator with SEPTA.

[@trainrover]

Interesting..the unnecessary effort poured into duplicating the smooth humping of the tracking even into its platforming of that last station featured.

[@SanguinaryStrife]

I'm planning a trip to phily... but I've never been there. I'm so used to the MTA in NYC cuz that's where I'm from. Is SEPTA anything like MTA, where the cost for the ticket is $2.50, there's a map in every cart. I looked at the SEPTA website and its a bit confusing. Can someone show me a map?

[@ambrosemilner]

SanguinaryStrife when you are ready to come to Philadelphia, hit me up and I will take you on a tour of our system. I'm a train operator with SEPTA. my email address is [e-mail]

[@xRavai]

Yeah the fare is 2.50 on septa and there is a map in every car

[@jalfredl]

@timosha21 That's a shame..all i want is for philly to somehow expand it's subway system without expanding it by construction. I'm not from Philly so I cannot speak for the people who live there obviously. It would be cool if septa or patco could expand their heavy rail system, but i doubt it would happen any soon.

[@DashTransit]

@TrainSounds as it should be

[@Gojira160]

@DashTransit The Broad Street Line is nice and cool, but what about the express trains?

[@Lmaoomikeyy]

wwhy are the stations arched

[@ezabelastar5507]

Thinks,,🇺🇸⭐Subway,,Thinks⭐🇺🇸 🇺🇸👍Subway,👍👍America,👍🇺🇸

[@emeraldkimble7602]

Both local and rush hour on same tracks platform

[@AMJ1821]

I was on the train you know that

[@Thatgamingdiary]

1:39 What station is that

[@DashTransit]

Cecil B. Moore

[@LANG671]

boston blue line

[@mr.everything9120]

Can the market line operate on the broad street line?

[@mikejustgothere1685]

No

[@mr.everything9120]

@@mikejustgothere1685 why can't they?

[@mikejustgothere1685]

@@mr.everything9120 market Frankford line rails are much narrower than broad street line rails and the bsl runs from north to south where as mfl runs east to west

[@dariequeen1]

Bcore

[@LANG671]

orange line boston kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIWZfaCGec13Z6M

[@misslinda6688]

what was even the point of this video honestly