No Ban List Modern | Simic Oko vs Izzet Raga-Twin

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Before leaving Berlin, ‪@yellowhatmtg‬ and ‪@HarryMTG‬ put their lives on the line on last time and had one hour to brew a no-ban-list modern deck. Let's finally see which forbidden menace takes the crown, Oko or Splinter Twin.
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@theladypalecorn7750
@theladypalecorn7750 2 жыл бұрын
“Splinter Twins vs Oko” Splinter Twins nor Oko hit the board
@gamingtomato1137
@gamingtomato1137 2 жыл бұрын
Plays no ban list modern : Ragavan is still the best card in the deck
@flewphernegro1516
@flewphernegro1516 2 жыл бұрын
DRC and expressive iteration are insane
@DakonBlackblade2
@DakonBlackblade2 2 жыл бұрын
Ragavan is absurd and I can't understand how it isn't banned yet.
@gamingtomato1137
@gamingtomato1137 2 жыл бұрын
@@DakonBlackblade2 money. Mh2 ain’t out of print yet
@justharry2190
@justharry2190 2 жыл бұрын
@@DakonBlackblade2 Money
@christopherpie8559
@christopherpie8559 2 жыл бұрын
To update everyone here who didn't already know, he's banned now.
@johnf9710
@johnf9710 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously just one match and Harry had bad draws, but interesting to see that MH2 cards dominated and the banned cards outside of probe were hardly relevant.
@axvd2105
@axvd2105 2 жыл бұрын
if Harry had a turn 1 chalice hand on the play, game coulda been pretty different I think! we might have seen Twin come through in that case lol
@backfischhunter7705
@backfischhunter7705 2 жыл бұрын
@@axvd2105 Decklists also are by far not optimized. As they said it was a very spontaneaus thing. I think for example the new affinity lists with mox or kci with saga and stuff could be a real problem
@eloidasarmi6815
@eloidasarmi6815 2 жыл бұрын
Exact! After release of MH2 I doubt that we really can justify that most of the banned cards are still in the ban list xd
@theweirdlyfriendlymushroom7920
@theweirdlyfriendlymushroom7920 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day the mono red deck spashed green and blue for Oko Now simic Oko decks should splash red for Ragavan
@burnoffthetopmtg1963
@burnoffthetopmtg1963 2 жыл бұрын
Love these! The cut away's explaining decision points is great
@Kettwiesel25
@Kettwiesel25 2 жыл бұрын
I'd prefer voiceovers tbh
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment and support!
@franklinwood7705
@franklinwood7705 2 жыл бұрын
It was way too much for me. I agree voice over would have been easier to watch, for me at least. I like having interesting lines explained, but not every single decision on the game. Also, having it cut away made it feel somewhere between a reality TV show and trying to watch Crunchy Roll without paying for the service. No offense to the players or anything, just my thoughts.
@regular_ian
@regular_ian 2 жыл бұрын
as someone who doesn't play modern I think the extra detail really helped me understand what was going through their minds and that gave me a lot more entertainment value than if it was just a couple complicated lines being explained or if it was a brief voiceover during the game
@Kettwiesel25
@Kettwiesel25 2 жыл бұрын
@@regular_ian to be clear, I don't suggest the voiceover explanations to be shorter than what they did. I would just prefer a freezed boardstate screen instead of cutaways to people talking, so I can follow what they are saying more easily.
@SvviftDeath
@SvviftDeath 2 жыл бұрын
That was a lot of fun to watch. I would like to see more No Ban List games in the future just to see how broken the format really could be if left unregulated.
@RisottoNero-z1w
@RisottoNero-z1w Жыл бұрын
pr the more regulation we need with oko, haha
@EionBlue
@EionBlue 2 жыл бұрын
I think the silent MVPs here were the counterspells, a lot of the broken banned cards are a lot less unfair when you have cheaper interaction. I'd add the pitch elementals to the list as well for how good they are as answers.
@haphazard2007
@haphazard2007 2 жыл бұрын
Best overlay I've ever seen. Great job!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@outerheaven2208
@outerheaven2208 2 жыл бұрын
You guys really do a great job! I love how this is progressing! Keep going this route. Big thumbs up!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
@davidy22
@davidy22 2 жыл бұрын
Cardmarket's shelves must be the most organised thing on the planet, I'd have blown my hour of deckbuilding time just looking for the cards
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@davidy22
@davidy22 2 жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic seriously though how did they manage to physically locate the cards for their decks after coming up with the lists within an hour
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidy22 Movie Magic. They came up with the lists within an hour but played much later ;)
@davidy22
@davidy22 2 жыл бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic oh ok that makes a good amount of sense
@bubzettel922
@bubzettel922 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is getting better and better by the day. Already deserves more attention than it gets atm, but we'll get there soon!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Share the videos with everyone!
@matiasc003
@matiasc003 2 жыл бұрын
No banlist modern. Just play cards that came out the last year and wreck everyone.
@Mr.CrossFire
@Mr.CrossFire 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely love the video. Kind of crazy that Gab only played one banned card in the games from his deck, git prob. UR decks are so strong, also seemed like a harder match up. Really liked the explanations on decision points. Great video
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@FPRobber
@FPRobber 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of no MH Modern. I hope you try it out at some point
@levels1937
@levels1937 2 жыл бұрын
All the years SCG did the Vs series why could they not figure out this production format? This is excellent.
@nickraupp6104
@nickraupp6104 2 жыл бұрын
Omg the end was amazing. I love it
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
All the video is! ;)
@willlozinak5182
@willlozinak5182 2 жыл бұрын
So cool you got gabe nassif come by. love to see pros play in paper and talk about it
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
That was really cool indeed!
@mauiipantii
@mauiipantii 2 жыл бұрын
excited to see my boy deathrite shaman in one of the future videos. great videos!
@captainmanhattan3582
@captainmanhattan3582 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see some more esper reanimator in modern on cardmarket, with the griefs and solitudes! Love the videos
@TheSynisterMinister
@TheSynisterMinister 2 жыл бұрын
I plqy esper reanimator! i love the new card tainted indulgence!
@captainmanhattan3582
@captainmanhattan3582 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSynisterMinister Haven't tried it in my list yet but it looks great!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the idea!
@MartindeRoo
@MartindeRoo 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to have seen some Uro action, with Mystic Sanctuary, Top, Oko, GitProbe, CCommand, Counterbalance, JTMS, Mental Mistep etc. The artifact angle was cute, but clearly not strong enough. Perhaps next time ask to take a current T1 deck and allow banned cards to improve it as building a deck in 1 hour with no meta is quite hard.
@WiTTeNx
@WiTTeNx 2 жыл бұрын
the artifact path is actually really strong. you can T1 oko, and idk if youve watched some vintage with oko, but a t1 oko is devastating.
@benyseus6325
@benyseus6325 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of a no ban list Modern, how about we have a no Modern Horizons 2 Modern, Jesus, the banned cards barely did anything.
@abusus75
@abusus75 2 жыл бұрын
Modern horizons destroyed modern. This format has become very expensive in addition of being homogenized by mh1/2 cards.
@Tylorrr
@Tylorrr 2 жыл бұрын
@@abusus75 except for the vast majority of people that actually play modern think its the most fun/ diverse that its ever been
@zga042
@zga042 2 жыл бұрын
with the exception of perhaps ragavan, most of mh1/2 opened up new archetypes. in particular the pitch elementals have really interesting gameplay
@dogekage
@dogekage 2 жыл бұрын
@@abusus75 pretty bad take. Every event I go to people love the new brewing space.
@abusus75
@abusus75 2 жыл бұрын
@@dogekage not really a bad take, i mean, obviously you're not going to meet unhappy people with the format, since they don't play it anymore. why play something we don't like?
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
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@codyvaughn7966
@codyvaughn7966 2 жыл бұрын
would love links to decklist that still work a couple weeks after upload lol
@Threadoflength
@Threadoflength Жыл бұрын
After watching this it would be interesting to see if a deck made of banned cards could even beat a regular modern deck! I propose: MH2 versus the Ban List
@m.c.8233
@m.c.8233 2 жыл бұрын
i would love to see jeskai phoenix or izzet storm in a banless modern video. I think those decks could be extremely fast and fun with some of the banned cards like: gitaxian probe, faithless looting, rite of flame etc
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
Good idea, why not?
@Kettwiesel25
@Kettwiesel25 2 жыл бұрын
Especially storm (you got me, combo fan here)
@Ragmesesis
@Ragmesesis 2 жыл бұрын
MH2 Clearly a Problem...
@artholomu
@artholomu 2 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story, Ragavan is more Op than Oko
@TehSeksyManz
@TehSeksyManz 2 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: This is a tiny sample size that doesn't indicate very much.
@disafear3674
@disafear3674 11 ай бұрын
Would love to see more of these types of no-ban Modern!
@andyony2
@andyony2 2 жыл бұрын
I am at the beginning of the video (deck introduction), so I wonder: Are there any mental missteps in their decks? :)
@ShakerGER
@ShakerGER 2 жыл бұрын
Never got oko out wow
@Kettwiesel25
@Kettwiesel25 2 жыл бұрын
I get that both of these guys are known for playing the kind of decks they came up with here. Still, in a new format, I would go for the fastest combo deck. Unsure whether that's Hogaakvine with Death Rite Shaman, Blazing Infect or Storm, or maybe even KCEggs (I actually think Hypergenesis is quite a safe unban), but I am surely not playing a control deck in an uncertain meta.
@WilliamGap
@WilliamGap 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video editing. Would love to see that kind of editing on tournament stream
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! They should call us then!
@benjaminsouthworth5698
@benjaminsouthworth5698 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like gab should probably have put ponder and cruise into his deck as well as some number of misstep. But I they did only have an hour
@dm9910
@dm9910 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah cut the Twin package and just play all the broken blue cards
@wolf_8026
@wolf_8026 2 жыл бұрын
Not too into modern content but the video quality and the editing is good. Subscribed 👌
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@KlittoD
@KlittoD Жыл бұрын
Lol the ending was great! Keep up the great vids!
@sourcitrusfruit
@sourcitrusfruit 2 жыл бұрын
I've waited a long time for a solid paper modern or pauper gameplay show, came upon this show about a week ago, and I think it's great! Good fun episode too. The end bit was so corny and I loved it haha.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@bleistik821
@bleistik821 2 жыл бұрын
The end was pretty funny 😁
@FacilitaFisica
@FacilitaFisica 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see: No ban list modern VS MH1 and MH2 modern... So you can play any banned card, even if they are in MH1 or MH2, but none of what we can play today of this sets (no ravagan, no elementals, etc). And the other deck can play "normal modern".. Lets see who wins xD
@gewinner5379
@gewinner5379 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at the modern banlist, they both probably could have played the good cantrips, like ponder and preodain and the delve big card draw spells, treasure cruise and Dig through time, especially without Merktide in the deck. Expressive Iteration might still be better, though 🤔
@MrPiotrV
@MrPiotrV 2 жыл бұрын
nah, it's not better than either of those.
@luisgonzales8979
@luisgonzales8979 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@LosRockson
@LosRockson 2 жыл бұрын
Woah Gabriel!? Maaaan you guys are throwing everything but the kitchen sink into this channel!
@aorusaki
@aorusaki Жыл бұрын
Also it's very interesting how the new cards dominated so much more than the banned cards!
@WitherFang
@WitherFang 2 жыл бұрын
Aaahh... how I've missed, "I'm gonna shock and probe you." in Modern~😈😈😈😈
@Simonk_6
@Simonk_6 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah splinter twin doesn’t stand up in my opinion
@dangerouscool
@dangerouscool 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a no ban dredge game.
@phetto1096
@phetto1096 2 жыл бұрын
did you both forget about misstep?
@SvviftDeath
@SvviftDeath 2 жыл бұрын
The camera transitions seemed like they were upside down from the top down view. I thought when it was panned out that they were in opposite seats every time. It took a while to get used to it but at the start it was very jarring.
@marcopietroventura
@marcopietroventura 2 жыл бұрын
More about this kind of content. With different banned list decks
@justapersonontheinternet
@justapersonontheinternet 2 жыл бұрын
reluctant "uummmm?" followed imediately by "So this hand is great!"
@hermelin12
@hermelin12 2 жыл бұрын
Let's see who dies this time :D Funny Idea lifeline :D Also no Ban Modern was fun before and still is fun to watch! 🙂 Cheers
@The50Grad
@The50Grad 2 жыл бұрын
Come on, no Oko and Splinter Action? Bring it on! New Round!
@BULLZEYEplays
@BULLZEYEplays 2 жыл бұрын
weird seeing harry without his glasses
@returningwhisper
@returningwhisper 2 жыл бұрын
RIP, Harry
@raygun2180
@raygun2180 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if im crazy but the mic at the beginning has a ton of echo
@bradleyc127
@bradleyc127 2 жыл бұрын
Harry after the 2-0 had me 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@Mattball82
@Mattball82 9 ай бұрын
Man I miss Expressive Iteration what a great card!
@eeneranna9795
@eeneranna9795 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious. How do you guys record the midgame through process commentary? They sound so in the moment during it. Do you drag them out of the room mid game to give their thoughts, or is it recorded afterward?
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
Before the game
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
Nah just kidding, after the game!
@Xetollas
@Xetollas 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@kevinfieber9793
@kevinfieber9793 2 жыл бұрын
Really curious how he sacked the treasure for blue and cast the emry for 1 with only 1 artifact in play game 1
@joshdemon15
@joshdemon15 2 жыл бұрын
The rules on casting spells are as follows: declare the spell, declare costs, pay costs (tapping necessary lands, etc). So when you declare the cost of emry, you count the top AND the food token, even though you're sacking the food token, since sacking the food token is step 3. You can see this demonstrated in MTGO especially.
@kraakelol
@kraakelol 2 жыл бұрын
The Oko deck is not in the deck list link :-(
@VictorianoOchoa
@VictorianoOchoa 2 жыл бұрын
You could say that after the match, Harry no longer had any skin in the game. He lost his guts, his vision, and his mind. That game chilled him to the bone.
@LasseLoft
@LasseLoft 5 ай бұрын
Git probe with double drc is mad!!
@tobyha
@tobyha 2 жыл бұрын
No Ponder or Mental Miss ? That doesn´t make any sense - did he forgot about it ? ^^
@_tnto_
@_tnto_ 2 жыл бұрын
No Ban List Modern
@Ocramman86
@Ocramman86 Жыл бұрын
this proves that splinter twin doesnt need to be banned anymore
@Flamingcloud083
@Flamingcloud083 Жыл бұрын
Would have preferred to see decks built around cards that were never legal... Skullclamp.. Full power affinity.. Full power dredge.. (or some decks that use cards that were banned after a month)
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
We do that as well sometimes, for example here where we played hypergenesis: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpC2Z4qLjKmoias
@Romans1-8
@Romans1-8 2 жыл бұрын
Wish there was a lgs near me that had no banlist events.
@pmotaviano1650
@pmotaviano1650 2 жыл бұрын
i dont get it. how did he cast emry on 7:43 ? he sac the food to produce blue, so emry should cost 2 right?
@theemathas
@theemathas 2 жыл бұрын
You are allowed to make mana with mana abilities during casting the spell (as opposed to making mana before casting it). Determining the amount of mana you need to pay happens in CR (comprehensive rules) 601.2f. This happens before actually making the mana, which is in CR 601.2g.
@laurinscholz9894
@laurinscholz9894 2 жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t temur be good with oko, drc and uro?
@Phlippr
@Phlippr 2 жыл бұрын
why no cast tormod's crypt from grave with emry :(
@lucagiglio8011
@lucagiglio8011 2 жыл бұрын
No ban modern best modern
@Shiyth
@Shiyth 6 ай бұрын
10:22 what song is starting here?
@javierparedes8876
@javierparedes8876 2 жыл бұрын
Could you please bring some pre modern gameplays to the channel? Could be great!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 жыл бұрын
Good idea, we will suggest it!
@RIP_Texpert
@RIP_Texpert 2 жыл бұрын
The best deck in no banlist modern has to be eldrazi
@oldmanfivetimes
@oldmanfivetimes 2 жыл бұрын
how did he cast tomads crypt with chalice out? and man gitaxian probe is so nasty when you get to survail of it everytime...
@MrPiotrV
@MrPiotrV 2 жыл бұрын
he didn't. it was put into play with urza's saga.
@azarisLP
@azarisLP 2 жыл бұрын
Disturbing lack of Mental Missteps...
@cerealforserious
@cerealforserious 10 ай бұрын
CARL WEAR THAT JACKET EVERY DAY 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@itshonk7313
@itshonk7313 Жыл бұрын
honestly, I feel like a Leovold variant of the oko deck would have been better
@Adrian-dt2oz
@Adrian-dt2oz 2 жыл бұрын
Unban oko then 😂😂😂 And also splinter twin… It didn’t win a single match 😂😂😂😂
@NStripleseven
@NStripleseven 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the music in this?
@maxwornowizki422
@maxwornowizki422 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Harry
@lordmeep5803
@lordmeep5803 2 жыл бұрын
Probe + drc is NASTY good lord I’m all for a smaller banlist but one of those has to be/stay banned
@IcaroMendonca
@IcaroMendonca 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why play Goose over Deathrite Shaman if you are in no-banlist anyway. Seems like a no-brainer upgrade, even counting with the oko-food interaction.
@alexstef6965
@alexstef6965 2 жыл бұрын
can’t believe how ragavan escaped the bans, it’s unreal. it’s only there because it’s a new card and they want to keep selling. also, where are your mental missteps guys.??
@TehSeksyManz
@TehSeksyManz 2 жыл бұрын
Monkey dies to every removal spell ever, that's why it hasn't been banned. It isn't even over represented in the meta game.
@alexstef6965
@alexstef6965 2 жыл бұрын
@@TehSeksyManz really?? you’re gonna give me the ‘dies to removal’ argument. let’s also unban deathrite, since that also dies to all removal. and mental misstep, since that’s ‘just an answer’ right? anyway, we’ll see in a year when mh2 is really out of the market
@TehSeksyManz
@TehSeksyManz 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexstef6965 Deathrite doesn't have to attack to provide value, also doesn't die to wren and six or lava dart. Mistepp is a fundamentally broken card, that is why it is banned in every fomat except for Vintage, where it is restricted
@richardknight865
@richardknight865 2 жыл бұрын
This really illustrates to me a thought I've had for a while now. Oko shouldn't have been banned. He's really good, but hardly unbeatable. Infact, he's super easy to play around. WotC just knee-jerk reacted to the card and banned it.
@TehSeksyManz
@TehSeksyManz 2 жыл бұрын
You think it was a knee jerk reaction when he was banned in legacy?
@solotxt7385
@solotxt7385 2 жыл бұрын
Someone clearly didn't play modern when Oko was in the format, that or this comment is a complete joke
@ognotapussyslayer5917
@ognotapussyslayer5917 2 жыл бұрын
anyone have the song?
@HispanicatthediscoMTG
@HispanicatthediscoMTG Жыл бұрын
The link doesn’t work :(
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Жыл бұрын
Which link? If it's the decklists, I just tested it. It works 🤔
@JohnSmith-hs9ez
@JohnSmith-hs9ez 2 жыл бұрын
I am surprised no one is playing brainstorm
@benzpinto
@benzpinto 2 жыл бұрын
ragavan has made a clear statement in modern. play interaction or else! its is a broken card!
@Meck33
@Meck33 2 жыл бұрын
Where is mental missep???
@Gideon.E.R
@Gideon.E.R 2 жыл бұрын
“I’ll chalice on zero.” 15 sec later: tormod crypt for 0
@skylercady6661
@skylercady6661 2 жыл бұрын
the tormod's crypt was not cast it was put into play with urza's saga
@netpoon6161
@netpoon6161 2 жыл бұрын
no london mulligans??
@chriscortez4729
@chriscortez4729 2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised he didn’t just jam cruises in murktide Instead of twin. That plays probe would have been nonsense. Lost opportunity:/
@aorusaki
@aorusaki Жыл бұрын
Interesting game
@dm9910
@dm9910 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly at this point, half of the banlist could be unbanned and Ragavan/DRC/elementals/cascade/EI would still be the best cards in the format. At this point Twin is so far from bannable it's funny, Dig and Cruise are not obviously better to be casting than Murktide Regent, Deathrite would not even the best 1-drop in the format, hypergenesis is just worse than footfalls or living end... Obviously a lot of the cards on the banlist would make the format worse even if they wouldn't be overpowered, but it just goes to show how insane MH2 was.
@DefCatofficial
@DefCatofficial 2 жыл бұрын
to me, this shows how much bans shoudln't be a thing. I hate bans, this was the most interesting game to watch on your channel so far imo.
@andresramos4120
@andresramos4120 2 жыл бұрын
The reason for the ban is how it warps the meta. You would only be watching the same deck over and over again at tournaments
@Romans1-8
@Romans1-8 2 жыл бұрын
Mystic Sanctuary Loop (rip) for days. But i bet no banlist modern could be a real format alongside current modern. I'd play both personally.
@budz2355
@budz2355 Жыл бұрын
Chalice on 0 should have countered tormods crypt
@bobjones4469
@bobjones4469 2 жыл бұрын
After Arena and Master Duel, I just can't watch in person matches anymore.
@D_A_D_
@D_A_D_ 2 жыл бұрын
You could essentially just play Legacy UW miracles in this format. Jace, Top, Ponder, Preordain, Mystic Sanctuary, and miracles. Mental Misstep, Counterspell, and MH2 cards to interact. Seems good.
@iPhonix07
@iPhonix07 2 жыл бұрын
Turns out you don’t need banned cards when you can have a monkey
@marccz7166
@marccz7166 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like Harry has no skin in the game?! XD
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