No coding experience gamedev | Devlog #1

[@thomouse]

Hello! Welcome to my first (actually second) devlog! Once again, I would like to thank everyone for subscribing and watching the previous episode! Enjoy!

[@bradyn4065]

I think the game could be a bit less dark and foggy it would be cool if you could collect things to light up the sky and also can we get a more in depth tutorial on the text system?

[@thomouse]

@@bradyn4065 I’m still learning so I don't think that I am the right person to make a tutorial. Maybe one day.

[@Alfonzo9989]

The game looks really good so far

[@ImNotFine44]

I love the fixed camera. Very silent hill/resident evil like.

[@RescuePets]

@@bradyn4065 I think he's using the Unity Asset Adventure Creator for the text, so you can probably find a tutorial for that. It looks pretty good. Our new game, A Cozy Corgi Hike, is using the asset Dialogue System, which might be more robust, but more confusing from the looks of it.

[@MinTheFou]

I love the vision for the game you are making.

[@MrSanemon]

I think the goal of making an entire game without writing code is admirable but I think longterm learning to code is the best way to go, it's not much different and imo quite a bit easier to code via writing than it is to code visually. Most written code has some sort of auto complete. The concept is the same so the logic you had to learn to code visually is applicable and written code is much better on readability. I am looking forward to seeing where this project goes!

[@ImNotFine44]

How would you recommend learning written?

[@MrSanemon]

​@@ImNotFine44 Some would suggest learning Python first which is okay but many people just want to make a game and don't care about the theory nearly as much. For that reason I think it is totally acceptable to learn to code in a game engine. Unity or Godot are two good ones as they each support fairly simple scripting languages and can teach multiple paradigms. You can, for instance, learn all of the basics in GD script. There are definitely a lot more basics focused courses for Python, Java and what not but you can write very simple programs that output to the console in both Unity and Godot. So you can go from Hello World all the way to a fully featured game inside the engine. I would definitely learn the fundamentals before trying to make complex game behavior though. Some fundamentals being: How to use variables Control Structures and loops Functions And then going further you can learn about Object Oriented programming. Probably the number one skill to master when learning to write programs is using a search engine effectively. If you can read code, and understand the basics just what you can find online will take you a very long way.

[@ImNotFine44]

@@MrSanemon thanks

[@deletedkneecaps]

i mean some people just hate code. like me for me, it’s incredibly difficult to code, let alone get the motivation to do so because of how much i hate doing it. i’ve always wanted to make my own game, like many other creatives out there, but have never been able to get the hang of coding.

[@MrSanemon]

@@deletedkneecaps I think a lot of the frustration with coding has less to do with whether it's visual or text based and more the lack of direction and having to put in a pretty big investment to learn it. That said if you really hate coding you can always develop other skills, such as 3D modeling, pixel art or sound design, or even level design and learn the engine, designing mechanics or what have you. Then you can work with someone else who is more interested in the programming side. That said if you are just having a hard time learning there's also say construct or gdevelop which use a snap in code blocks system which to me is a lot more user-friendly than the blueprints style system used in Godot, Blender and UE4/5. There are also engines with really lightweight scripting such as Godot. I'd still argue that even if you aren't going to be coding often picking up the fundementals is still a good idea. Coding is a lot like writing, the hardest part is the blank page, once you start it seems to get easier. Finally there are frameworks and plugins that reduce the amount of coding, premade projects that already have controllers and then there's code you can copy and paste from the internet. Still want the fundementals to know how to use it but you can get around having to code an entire game from scratch in most cases these days. I am glad gatekeepers are no longer suggesting you need to code an entire game directly in Java or Python or even directly in C++ and DirectX libraries before you should even consider touching an engine. Game development is only going to continue getting more accessible, especially to small teams though it will always require putting forth the effort, at least until AI can generate games from ideas.

[@martindev4670]

it's crazy how he can make such good videos while just starting his channel most channels start with cringe or bad quality video's.

[@cheesburgero]

i swear my first video was some geometry dash video with some random undertale dog in the video

[@leethememerwolf]

sheesh found your channel yesterday and nice so far! loving how the game dev is looking! Keep it up!!!!!!!!

[@rmt3589]

I've subscribed and rang the notification bell. Excited to see your future devlogs, and plan to take inspiration for making my own. What's interesting, is we have the opposite issues. My brain works in math and code, but doing things like those animal models are beyond impressive to me. I'm making my models in magicavoxel because I can do things math-based still. I'm excited to see your journey, and to write my own. Looking forward to your future videos!

[@NabilWarv]

This is actually a good game for Beginner, and you make a high quality video like experienced youtuber, keep going thomouse.

[@blobbita]

Yayy!! I watched the first video just now, and im excited to follow your development! As a novice developer myself, i love seeing ppl trying to do something :)

[@blobbita]

Also, if you ever need any help with unity, feel free to reach out!

[@grubas727]

The style is amazing!! It's unique, in the sense that the whole thing holds up as it's own style, It's not too generic but at the same time it's also pretty. Especially with the lighting and post processing(bloom) that adds so much! What you have here is more or less a perfect combination and it gives me good, comfy, dreamy vibes. If it's not too much to ask, then i'd really like the style to stay the same or at least somewhat true to this one till the end. Obviously, you can improve it in various ways, after all it's really early in development so I imagine not everything is fine tuned to your liking yet. Also you're probably gonna improve at making pixel art (from what I gather it's what you're trying to do) further on so things are gonna change thats for sure. But it's okay, changes are good and vital but the vibe is something else here and I just hope I could help. TL;DR style is great

[@justenbrown]

Looking good. Adventure creator is my most used Unity asset, it’s useful even in non-adventure.

[@kamilsawka3356]

You're the best! I've been waiting for this channel!

[@cabbagepatchkid7058]

ur game is super beautiful please change absolutely nothing this makes me so happy its very aesthetic

[@Myszkaedzio]

AMAZING GAMEE 💖💖💖💖 im looking forward to hopefully playing this game in the future >_>

[@nook2726]

I really like the art style to be quite honest, simple but affective. I really like the pixel graphics you did as it has a super nice vibe to it, excited to see future devlogs on this!

[@devkumo]

Wonderful progress already! Rooting for you ✌️

[@Sketchygaijin]

Ooooh this looks great already! Good luck, I can’t wait to watch your progress~ But don’t burn yourself out!!

[@viktormarton8258]

Wow! Are you already has 650 subscribers?! Congratulations! But I still your 6. subscriber....🤣

[@RescuePets]

Wow, another well edited video so quick, good job! What video editor do you use? The core systems for the game are coming together well. I think it looks great (although, I might be biased since we're making another 3D-pixel game), and it stands out a lot, too. Keep up the good work!

[@VP-tn1ip]

subscribed, I myself wanna attempt to make an adventure game and doesn't rlly know much coding lol best of luck for u man

[@huddy_t]

Awesome editing. Great game idea. Excited to see your continued growth!

[@rgg543]

You should make these much longer. I think people would watch 15 minute plus. I would personally watch even longer.

[@honaleri]

I think it's interesting you make your own models. I think 3d modeling is 100x harder than coding. But you seem to be a really good modeler. Its impressive. I'd be hiting itch io in a heart beat for assets if I was in your position. lol. But all that aside, it looks REALY good. I love the backgrounds and while I think the NPCs could look cuter, I still think, maybe for "Night of the Woods" inspired character designs, it may just work. I like the lizard looking guy the most. He's just right. lol. You are doing amazing. I'm hopeful to do something similar one day. Good luck to you. Ima sub as well so I can see the updates.

[@Bookofwords]

I'd have to disagree with that second line... I learnt to 3D model in only 2 months, my friend has been teaching me to code and I struggle with it even after 5 months... I somewhat know small bits of it, like if statements, else if, classes, etc... but I cant sit there and write code myself off the dome.

[@honaleri]

@@Bookofwords For me, coding is pretty straight forward. It doesn't take any real skill just time. I taught myself to code in school and it wasn't difficult at all. I'v made little solitaire games and done little coding challenges with minimal effort. Once you know what you are doing, just write it out, and boom, its over. Compile, check errors, repeat, and you'll get there. But when I got to college and learned 3D modeling, it was unrelentingly brutal. We barely learned a thing, and everything we made looked trash, and by the end of it, I realize that if you want to make something that looks even partially good looking, you need to be some genius level artist, and, nearly everyone in my class...very clearly had no means of every becoming that, myself in included. .Only one student made something quality, and he clearly had been working on models for...years before taking the class...

[@GugureSux]

@@honaleri Have to disagree with you there as well, mate. Programming requires a very specific pair of brains, where as art can be learned. I myself have tried to hammer traditional programming into my thick skull for nearly 20 years (yes, twenty), but I just absolutely HATE it. I hate staring at walls of plain, abstract text, I hate hunting typos, and I hate error hunting. Meanwhile, I taught myself to do 3D modeling and texturing in a matter of a month or so, years before KZbin became a thing. I also could spend an entire weekend "coding" complex features using visual scripting tools, no matter what kind of tangled mess it might look like to the programmer guys, and have a great time doing so. But at the end of the day, it's just become more and more clear to me how different people truly can be when it comes to preferences.

[@honaleri]

@@GugureSux Basically, the opposite is true. Art requires so much that cannot be taught, but coding is so completely by the book and formulaic, you can't NOT learn it if you just...read the instructions. I''ve tried to learn art for 17 years, and have all of 0 success. Coding can be understood in an afternoon. Art is unlearnable. You either know it, or you don't. I know artists who still can barely draw proper anatomy, and have done nothing but drawing for decades, and many who cannot do any spacial reasoning based skills ...ever. Regardless of effort. Doing something like coding is easy. Just as easy as typing things and remembering what words to type. Doing complex coding, takes only instructions, and then, you can do it. Making your own instructions is easy as well, when you know what problem you want to solve. Its like playing with blocks. Ironic, cause that's what most visual scripting looks like now of days. Doing something like art is hard. Motor skills, spacial reasoning, vague instructions, lack of ways of finding out how to do the thing, and then getting the wrong advice, and then doing it wrong instead of correctly, which will teach you bad skills, and then the constant failure required for success(coding is the oppsite, you are expected to get it correct the first time, and it will work if you just...follow the rules. Art? What rules? There are not step-by-step guides to art. There is only a blank page and infinite ways to fill it and limited time to find out how.) ....that's just DOING art..., doing art WELL or at a high skill level,.... you simply have to have it, and if you don't, you never will. So few who do art, do it well. And even those who do it well, could do it better. And those who do it best, are considered gods for a reason. Most are born that way or have the same line "I've been drawing since I was a baby"...which is...basically being born gifted. And those who think otherwise, have yet to prove to me you can learn it. Never seen anyone learn it. Don't think it can be learned. It sounds like you have spacial reasoning, which allows you to do art and visual scripting. Visual processing is something you were born with. Good. Don't take it for granted. I don't have it and never will. But, coding is something any monkey could do, in my opinion. If you can do it visually, you can do it by writing it out, and that's exactly the point. Its not hard or doing it visually would be impossible as well for you, but something about typing makes people want to avoid it. Maybe because people don't like reading anymore?

[@xHavki]

I love the idea for this game and remember not to give up on it. I hope you will post another video as soon as possible. I also hope the game comes out later this year but I think it will, because I of the lot of progress you're making in this videos❤❤❤

[@Kyrou0]

This looks amazing!! Really excited to see more of this awesome looking game!

[@Shooting..St4r]

Yes, I like the vision you’ve created.

[@toadsworld]

I love how this is going so far! The Night in the Woods and A Short Hike influences could make for a really sweet game (though, judging by the dialogue we’ve seen so far, I think you’re going for something darker, lol). I’m super excited to see your future devlogs!

[@mementomonsters]

I tried to make my own game once I called it bonbon after my sisters dog after a couple of days my head started to hunter too much and I gave up.. you have inspire me to try again soon. I love your work so far

[@eggisbored]

I personally love it, I think a more pixel style like doom would be perfect!

[@xansurnamehere]

KZbin just recommended this to me at the top of the homepage 😮. I really love this video! And the style of what you have so far. One question: what experience have you had that makes you so good at creating stuff like this (so far)?

[@thomouse]

I edited vlogs for a friend's channel, videos for my music, and did graphics, such as business cards, flyers, etc. I have no 3D experience so far - watching hundred of tutorials on how to make PS1-style graphics, and how to model a character and that's it.

[@necromeme]

Looks great! My only suggestion would be to give the mouse whiskers

[@tommallama9663]

Your name is Thomas and you're making a dope game. I had to subscribe.

[@paulinakot122]

Twórca z Polski :) Trzymam kciuki ;) Keep going my friend :D

[@GingerGingr]

You make it look so easy!

[@hoi6826]

it looks so good already!

[@imakeinternetdev]

Amazing! How did you implement the floating E for interacting with hotspots? That would be a great tutorial.

[@anarchoyeasty3908]

10 days ago you were at 400 subs. Now you are at 4k. Tune in next week when thomouse somehow hits 40k

[@Supergab85]

bravo! How did you set up to show the letter E when you're next to the intercom? I don't know if you ever played Syberia on the ps2, I mean this type of interaction when you're close to an interactable object. Grazie

[@dtheguy]

Wow good progress man. Keep going !

[@ariessuggs3819]

The issues with the Assets you plan to replace (which you shouldn't if you took this path) is that the more you use, that you plan on replacing, the more daunting it becomes. Most Devlogs end up failing and "starting a new game" at that point. Hopefully yours doesn't. Plan ahead!! only use assets you plan to keep and make assets as you need them to prevent that up hill climb!

[@thomouse]

Good point, I changed my attitude and instead of adding the work of changing all the assets, I decided to just change the textures to my own, I will talk about that in the next devlog.

[@dogamer238]

I like the art style

[@soirema]

Hey man ^^love to see your devlog, carry on. I was just wondering whats so bad about high polycount for the main character? If you want this style its fine of course, but why avoid it? PCs now can handle Cyberpunk level of detail, so one more detailed character, shouldnt be a problem

[@Ursusowanie]

Not the guy but from the really low amount of modeling experience I have, higher polycount tends to look "off" which leads to them being more problematic to make.

[@soirema]

@@Ursusowanie good point

[@robinHobin]

Humble beginnings

[@mrflopa3684]

Can't wait to play the game did you plan a release date ?

[@thomouse]

Oh boy, I just started making this game :/ I wish I knew the date myself

[@BirdsArentRealGuys]

I love this, keep it up!❤

[@kravataf]

im not really sure what the game is about but it looks really good

[@thomouse]

it’s about mouse

[@kashyapp23]

wait you are a game dev and have a girlfriend !!! great videe all the best with your journey

[@flshstlcks]

I'm very interested in the game so far, but in my opinion, the snake is more of a lizard to me..

[@thomouse]

yea, it can be a lizard. „snake” is just a code name to that character

[@flshstlcks]

@@thomouse Aah, I see

[@hex9318]

It seems like your work arounds to avoid learning how to program are very similar to just using visual scripting like what Unreal Engine has with its blueprints system.

[@nofoo]

lovely looking game!! excited to see where this goes ☝️

[@xrather7735]

You should make the thinking a different design box... And maybe you think "I have to call snake" At the start of the level, when you haven't interacted yet, and then a arrow above the intercom!

[@Rtllme]

This looks amazing

[@Bifinley]

I cant wait to see the end result

[@thomouse]

me too

[@kitsunegamedev4526]

Same here, just I started 5 years ago, and now I know how to code. Well. Approximately :D. If there's a playmaker action, I can do it. If it's C#....I can't xDDDD

[@playbabethebookshelf6249]

I hope you try to make the pixelization a nearest neighbor instead. cuz it won’t look like badly scaled paint images.

[@LuzTuGatito]

I'm very much Intrigued, keep it up!

[@filippaguras3963]

Keep it going! I started making a game yesterday in Unity. Even though I'm 13 years old... I know over 5 programming languages. Good luck my friend :D

[@defauldt]

Great progress!

[@ScrubzzzDaking]

nice video keep up the good work

[@RadioactiveHax]

Im also making something similar, albeit different ideas. I only know blender without any knowledge of coding. I wasnt able to follow the devlog 0 before, but how did you make the player controller without coding it in C#?

[@thomouse]

It's build in Adventure Creator

[@Microplay-Interactive]

why you didn't go for construct or Gdevelop 5 for visual scripting?

[@thomouse]

because I found „adventure creator” which is dedicated to unity and it works with my vision for a game

[@Ursusowanie]

2:25 Is that the 'playing birthday song on a intercom' or the 'mrs do you need the TV?' meme?

[@thomouse]

something like that, yea

[@domhuj]

You could model a Fiat 126p, since you're polish! I think its a fun little car, and I think it could be an easy and good replacement for the Mini Cooper.

[@Maseta]

Been waiting for this

[@kingasawka2687]

it's going to be an interesting episode

[@emmathehuman]

My mind at the start: **KERME**

[@boi2252]

pre 1k sub lets go !

[@lyss.the.panini]

i think it would help to make your art style unique by changing the eyes

[@gregdash]

I like the style

[@mimadm4832]

Character design could be adjusted and "caricaturized" more to reflect the characters, I didn't understand much by looking at the characters aside remembering from previous medias I have consumed that snake characters are usually sneaky or backstabbers, mouses are usually squeeky or cowardly, bulls as quick to anger etc. I couldn't basically get the idea of how the characters will act based on their looks.

[@SpeakerTerenus]

New gaym. Big excitement.

[@cheesburgero]

gaeming

[@OxenMoxie]

Snake already my fav

[@octagone.]

awesome !

[@__Rizzler__]

mouse lacks some cakes

[@rskityaev]

Let me give you a hint, mister themouse. You don't have to make the doors with same topology as walls surounding them. Make a door as a separate object instead. That'll save you some trouble.

[@thomouse]

Yeah, i don’t know why i do it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@rskityaev]

@@thomouse Well, at least you are aware of this :)

[@GabeioIDK]

good job!

[@lukablazevic9452]

Are you gonna publish the game on steam or somewhere else?

[@thomouse]

Maybe

[@Ragz10]

I subbed liked so far

[@loop3454]

less go

[@1MaxVader1]

Thanks for the great video, try to pace yourself with getting videos out though.

[@thomouse]

Now there will be a longer break between videos because I will try to replace all models with my own.

[@ethannate9687]

Can you add a sword and when you pick it up it breaks instantly

[@thomouse]

what, why?

[@ethannate9687]

Just because

[@thomouse]

@@ethannate9687 sounds like a good plan

[@ethannate9687]

Ok

[@Evdya]

Can you make vidio what u need to create your own game like this?

[@lambtoks595]

Hehe, pretty cool

[@Little_Rocki]

cool

[@XxboxodxX-nk4mz]

yes

[@yuukianimates3318]

What a cute furry mouse 🐀

[@thomouse]

i'm not a furry okay :c

[@yuukianimates3318]

@@thomouse famous last words

[@minetomek]

More Polish names. :)

[@thomouse]

I forgot to change it ^^

[@minetomek]

@@thomouse I think it's cool

[@جريجوريفلوريدا]

جميل ، جميل ، سجل أكثر ، تحياتي

[@loafiotemporary1757]

hows the game

[@loafiotemporary1757]

@Matrix Studio what

[@loafiotemporary1757]

@Matrix Studio nobody gives any care about your escapee game

[@typicallydumbperson721]

add beans

[@jackwilson4673]

I hope someone can find the pixel shader tutorial

[@thomouse]

it's not worth it - don't worry

[@jackwilson4673]

@@thomouse why not? It looks really nice

[@focz]

is this a horror game

[@thomouse]

No, more like drama