take 5 minutes to remove the battery, makes it safer and gives you more working room. Had a battery explode early in my career/ lesson learned
@dyer2cycle3 жыл бұрын
..yep, and those cheapo "economy power"-type batteries are the worst for giving off gasses....
@ilovebutterstuff3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing.
@lorenzo42p3 жыл бұрын
blah... I set my battery on fire cleaning it with contact cleaner, which I found is flammable. never had or seen an explosion though. the way I understand it, the battery gives off hydrogen gas when it is charging or discharging. it's doing neither if it's not connected. flame on, I don't like to be cold.
@tedwertman21153 жыл бұрын
Over the years i seen 2 batteries blow up. Scary as sh*t, you wouldn't believe the carnage that happens.
@qwaszxpolkmncvb2 жыл бұрын
I won't even charge one in the car unless I'm felling extremely lazy or I'm running late and just trying to get one started. Fact, batteries explode now and then and without human error. It's best to isolate them from potential collateral damage and human injury. Don't worry about them sitting on concrete or dirt. You don't have to build anything special, just somewhat cool, dry and ventilated.
@salfrey3173 жыл бұрын
When soldering flux helps a lot in this area.
@Gizmo42Rodeo3 жыл бұрын
Electrical solder is usually flux core, its built in.
@salfrey3173 жыл бұрын
@@Gizmo42Rodeo not enough. That's when it's used on electronics and I still use Flux. Clean is your friend when soldering. It also helps the solder flow where it needs to be.
@oldbatwit51023 жыл бұрын
Yep. I would have cleaned the wire with something like Baker's fluid before soldering but..... I would probably not have soldered at all. On those relatively big current DC connections I prefer a physical contact eg. a clamp, to soldering. There are good reasons why car battery cables come with clamps rather than the cheaper option of soldered connectors.
@jkurl153 жыл бұрын
@@salfrey317 on top he could be introducing more issues if his solder job has cold solder joints in it.
@JeffDeWitt3 жыл бұрын
@@oldbatwit5102 But he did both.
@gypsydildopunks70833 жыл бұрын
I like people who do the job the best they can do, you took it to the next level. Way to go dude!
@merrickfritts59282 жыл бұрын
As an electrician I don’t see everyone’s problem. I understand the solder could crack but it was still hot enough where the solder wasn’t fully cured yet. That was a fine job
@andrewadams4883 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with crimping after soldering is the solder might Crack, opening a path for corrosion
@johnh82683 жыл бұрын
Hey Ray. Just my 2 cents. As others have said, I would have crimped first and soldered second. Also, considering the battery terminals you used, I would have put a lug on each separate wire and used both bolts on each terminal. This would have allowed you to use smaller lugs that fit the terminal bolts better. Thanks and have a good day.
@jeffryblackmon48463 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Don't disturb a fresh soldered terminal by crimping it! I've been soldering for 70 years. I'd use the heat gun instead of a flame for soldering.
@zachalles19423 жыл бұрын
I agree. I work in industrial controls. We've been told multiple times that tinned wires should NEVER be compressed, crimped, or inserted into terminals because the solder will crack over time, causing a bad connection, arcing, and even fires. I also think there are battery terminals that are designed for ring lugs; those weren't it. Those terminals are designed to clamp the bare wire, hence the groove in the center.
@ferrumignis3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely no need for soldering, it just makes the cable more likely to fracture. A correctly made crimp is the best connection you can get.
@v4vauxhall4983 жыл бұрын
@@ferrumignis Agree 100%
@stevem7868-y4l3 жыл бұрын
I would of done the same John, also red heatshrink on the positive, i would of also removed the battery, more space to crimp and solder, plus no explosions from any escaping Hydrogen
@TittleCreekOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
I've been using the ncp2 for a couple years now. Never had an issue with it. I actually had a battery that would corrode constantly, causing starting and running issues with the car. After cleaning up the terminals too many times I finally went and got the little npc2 kit that comes with the fabric washers to help. Haven't had an issue with it since. It really is great stuff.
@paulhigham91182 жыл бұрын
Ray always love your videos but please take this advice from a old auto electrician, don't put a naked flame right next to a battery! You have a great work ethic and I wouldn't like for you to be recovering from acid burns. Like aways have a nice day 😊
@JohnHill-qo3hb3 жыл бұрын
Love the torch... clean the wire first, then apply flux, then crimp, then solder. Crimping a soldered joint can fracture the lead/copper bond (ask me how I know) and or squeeze out the solder, thus compromising the connection, but do what you can with what you have.
@danizweifler60613 жыл бұрын
John Hill: "do what you can with what you have"...... = that is the key sentence for me = I do fully agree
@davidbrogan6063 жыл бұрын
There is no need to crimp at all. It is best to preload with solder just like he did. Flux might help but he used flux-core which is good enough.
@squarebodyseth59863 жыл бұрын
"do what you can with what you have" does not simply cover it when working on a customers vehicle. This guy is such a hack its not even funny.
@JohnHill-qo3hb3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbrogan606 you haven't worked on aircraft, no solder, crimp only mainly because of vibration and temperature change and G forces.
@davidbrogan6063 жыл бұрын
@@squarebodyseth5986 Let me guess, you're the only one who knows the correct procedures.
@frankbiz3 жыл бұрын
You go the extra mile when you work on cars and trucks. 👍🏻 Awesome work!
@robpeabo5093 жыл бұрын
Very true, the source of supply is always a good starting point for electrical issues. The battery moved a bit when you tried getting the positive clamp off the battery. post. It seems it was not or not adequately secured.
@earlwright97153 жыл бұрын
Myself ,being a retired electrician ,I can appreciate your comment! You are so correct sir. I won't however comment on the way he stripped that wire
@robpeabo5093 жыл бұрын
@@earlwright9715 I cringed also. I also did not comment on the lugs. Not my place to say. I need to renew my electrical licence. Not because I use it, just because I don't want to let it go yet. It will probably be the last renewal though.
@miloradpudja15013 жыл бұрын
Hey Rey. I'm not mechanic, but I work on cars quite often. I did electrical work in automotive for many years.... Please, Please, do not use hammer on Battery terminals ! You will not notice damage you are doing to terminals immediately, But, You brake seal on terminals, and they start to leak gas out of battery! That's how you got even new battery with oxidized terminals ..... Use tool to pry terminals open enough, so you can slide them over posts easy by hand, and then torque them properly. Keep up good work ! I like your videos. Thumbs up !
@tfx11843 жыл бұрын
Love the overkill on the soldering iron
@timpsensky51813 жыл бұрын
too much is just enough
@robertstoneking79163 жыл бұрын
A torch isn't overkill heavy copper carries your heat off and if you don't have enough heat the insulation melts/burns before the solder melts.
@miner5553 жыл бұрын
Didn’t clean wire, solder probably not melted into copper as pliers pulled heat away. Solder also adds resistance. Poor connection actually.
@dangerhellbender32452 жыл бұрын
Impressed with the 650ftlbs. Of torque on those battery connections! Love all your streams.
@robertsawa34073 жыл бұрын
Marine battery clamps have single 5/16 or 3/8 inch studs for this kind of cable ends.
@BigLisaFan3 жыл бұрын
Same with many military vehicles.
@JeffDeWitt3 жыл бұрын
The new heavy duty cables I've got on my Jeep XJ have the same setup. Makes perfect sense and it's much easier to disconnect the cables when necessary.
@WastedTalent-3 жыл бұрын
@@JeffDeWitt Did the same with mine.
@blackiedekat26123 жыл бұрын
Good job of not 'blowing yourself up' Ray!................one of my top10 rules of life - don't blow thyself up! right in front of - don't eat the yellow snow.....................
@greenhouse35053 жыл бұрын
Mate!!! 70k subs already! Feels like only 2 weeks a go I was verbally patting you on the back for hitting 50k. Don't think you have to worry about getting your content formula right. Reckon you've nailed it my friend. ;)
@JerikoAsmodeus3 жыл бұрын
128k now!
@chrislee63773 жыл бұрын
simple job for you ray but your patience and attention to detail is second to none great job
@mikeburnett70283 жыл бұрын
I used to work for a large electric utility for 20 years. As you would never fill a new filter with oil, you SHOULD wire brush bare wires to a shine after stripping due to corrosion already under the insulation so connection will last.
@justinhall51023 жыл бұрын
Just curious. Why, what would happen
@aaronbritt20253 жыл бұрын
@@justinhall5102 Corrosion adds resistance. Resistance is bad.
@justinhall51023 жыл бұрын
@@aaronbritt2025 nevermind I can't read. I thought it said you should not brush the wires to a shine.
@ganzonomy3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronbritt2025 and futile
@gerrynightingale90453 жыл бұрын
*I see plenty of 'shiny-copper' from the newly-exposed wiring* *If he suspected 'alkalization' down into the wiring, then it's time for a new cable for pos. & neg. instead of 'guess how far down it goes' in terms of crud* *At least that's what I would do*
@CalculatedRiskAK2 жыл бұрын
This is just me, but I always put dielectric grease in the connection before I heat shrink it. This helps guard against corrosion, but I can't knock your technique. It was awesome to watch.
@juniorcampbell80123 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the old school method mix. Improvisation!!
@freakyflow3 жыл бұрын
I upgraded my Alt, So i took a trip over to Princess Auto (Canadian version of Harbor Freight) Bought 16 ft of 1/0Awg welding cable And used a few Hammer lugs Shrink tubing And for the final some dielectrical grease.. I removed the old GM side post connectors And used Stainless steel 3/8 x 2-1/2" bolts with 1 washer And 1 lock washer And a nut This way i can add more grounds And power. And have something to really grip on to if i need to get Or give a boost And the bolts are not the strippable kind like the factory ones ...And yes It does that so you do not over tighten And crack the battery ...If you do you should not be handling tools anyways ..
@janetyeoman15443 жыл бұрын
Princess Auto has much more product and bigger stores than the many HF stores I’ve shopped at. Similar pricing when exchange calculated. 👍🇨🇦
@brucecoleman74123 жыл бұрын
My general practice is to replace the entire battery cable whenever possible. I have seen a battery explode because the tech has a cigarette in his hand. It was awful. Before I would ever put a flame anywhere near a battery, I would take the extra couple of minutes and remove the battery. The catastrophe I witnessed has left me extra cautious. I don’t want to be one of those “Famous Last Words “ guys. That’s the ONLY way a clamp on terminal end should ever be used. ANY corrosion at the battery cable wire or post will cause a voltage drop that will result in premature alternator failure from overworking. Good job!
@weldor1113 жыл бұрын
Saw the same thing happen, older gentleman was checking his battery for water level and lit his liter and held it over the battery to see. It Blew up.
@MoreSkulls3 жыл бұрын
My standard operating procedure is to permanently remove all fuel and electrical systems on all vehicles. I have personally observed my own object of conveyance violently oxidizing at elevated temperatures because those systems were present.
@unenslaver13333 жыл бұрын
I should have read down first. Thank you for your input.
@silicon2123 жыл бұрын
quick and steady rule - if you can smell H2S (smells like a rotten egg fart), then do not put a flame anywhere near the battery. If the battery is in good condition and idle, there will not be any hydrogen production. As long as the area is properly ventilated, nothing should go boom. But should you smell sulfur, then by all means keep the flame away.
@danny117hd3 жыл бұрын
I would've reused the original connector after a good scraping. Cable replacement I'd have to inspect the other end first.
@matthewholzinger10422 жыл бұрын
I'm in the rust belt so I do use the felt washers with an application of Vaseline. I also apply a small amount to the terminals and clamps. Then after tightened down a liberal amount on top. Been doing this for years. Did this to my Transit Connect in 2016 and still zero corrosion.
@aaronbritt20253 жыл бұрын
Hey Ray, they make single post battery terminals. I would've had your parts guy order those rather than using the "off the cardboard" universals. You went through all of that effort to make up the cables correctly then Jerry Rigged the clamp.
@madmatt20243 жыл бұрын
He also could have ordered one piece crimp/solder on battery terminals. We stock them at the shop I work at.
@45AMT2 жыл бұрын
They're called "Marine terminals"
@patrickbuick54592 жыл бұрын
@@45AMT I just got the crimp/solder terminals to get rid of my marine terminals. They just wouldn't stay tight for love nor money (or wrenches and pliers) in my Jeep. Perhaps if I had got rid of the wing nuts and used washers with lock washers, but the terminal change was a cleaner solution for me.
@billchessell82132 жыл бұрын
He needs a wire stripper too. Using a knife, might sell knives, but look at the TIME. Also. a wire stripper will gouge/cut fewer strands. Where strands are creased will create a hinge point that will cause the wire to fail early at that spot. Ray knows this, I’m sure. Clearly he wanted out of this video and would do anything to hurry the job along. I can’t help him with that, except to quit watching so his incentive to work himself to death is quashed.
@stephenurban98802 жыл бұрын
Should have crimped first to give it a good mechanical connection and then soldered to improve electrical connection. They also sell terminals that are made to have lugs connected instead of jury rigging it with ones that aren't made for the job.
@Dis-Emboweled3 жыл бұрын
My 93 3.0 ranger was one of the best trucks I ever owned. I wasn't easy on it but I maintained it spectacularly. 280,000 and only one clutch job at 120,000. And that was because the slave cylinder gave out.
@TheFrenchPug3 жыл бұрын
They don't make them like that anymore. Good job!
@daniellloyd22933 жыл бұрын
I have a 2000 ranger 3.0 with a with a quarter of a million miles original engine and I just had the transmission and clutch replaced due to a leaky slave cylinder
@JAMES-KB7TBT3 жыл бұрын
OK, I have 2 items, a pat on the back and one not so much. Since the corrosion wicked up the cables you should have wire brushed them off, the same goes for the terminals that were cooked. The idea of putting solder in first was a new one for me, I have been doing this stuff all of my very long life and I was taught something. As a quick cheep fix without dong a cable job it is fine. I would have made a different choice for the batt connectors, on the bonus side it is a versatile connection.
@davidbrogan6063 жыл бұрын
While you're not wrong, I think he did just right for this application on an old truck. This repair will last the life of the truck.
@magornmcgoogle3 жыл бұрын
I think it is great how you show ways to get the job done without the perfect tool and the parts you have available. Out of the box thinking is a lost art these days.
@spider_hoss2 жыл бұрын
I own a 2000 Danger Ranger with a 3 liter, and this video hits home. Have a problem with corrosion on battery. It’s fixed now but at least I can see how you fixed it.
@MattsRageFitGarage3 жыл бұрын
I had to make repair just like that on the negative battery terminal on my 99 grand marquis. I wound up using a marine battery terminal with the single lug connection and replaced the wing nut with a regular nut and washer. Works great if you're going to use a ring terminal like that for a wire end repair. Much better than the universal replacement clamps that you had to use I'd say. I also soldered mine right over the battery with mapp gas and then crimped afterwards...LOL
@montejones57883 жыл бұрын
Ray something to think about about 40 years ago I had to haul a co-worker to the hospital because he was replacing terminals on soldering them in the same manner which you are when the battery exploded he was extremely lucky he didn't lose his eyesight and three vehicles were damaged by battery acid and the initial vehicle by the explosion it took me more than a week to recover from the acid burns down my back side and my back because he was in the bay next to me while I was working when I got covered from the acid from the battery please take 5 minutes and remove the battery from the vehicle before you solder like that all it takes is once and you could be blind for life or worse even though modern batteries are sealed there is still gas escaping from them don't take a chance with your life or the lives of your coworkers I've watched several of your videos you are spot on your a good Tech please don't risk it all
@rodgermills14963 жыл бұрын
What might be helpful would be the marine style post clamps that already have an eyelet lug built in, I use them on my backhoe which has the eyelets on the cables. It makes it a lot easier if you need to take the cables off since you do not have to mess around with post clamps.
@AnAZPatriot3 жыл бұрын
Right there with you on the shrink wrap thing. Something very satisfying about that rubber sucking in tight around wires.
@unclechaz84263 жыл бұрын
Now there is a repair that I would never ever want someone to see yet alone write home to mother about for fear that she would kick my butt. That is terrible.
@RickDominick693 жыл бұрын
I like the fine print writing on the battery it says warning gas may be explosive if exposed to flame or spark shaking hands with danger. But using a cutting torch is all good
@blueovalfan233 жыл бұрын
Didn't think about that but doesn't it gas only when charging?
@riceburner47473 жыл бұрын
Okay, I know I'm gonna ruffle some feathers, BUT..... Battery looked loose when u put pos term on. U should have taken battery caps OFF & flamed ur torch ACROSS the cells, not down on cells, ACROSS. This removes ANY gases from battery. If ur blocking the fan, it ain't worth squat. Battery SHOULD have been removed! Not a long process. I've repaired/soldered battery posts, so I KNOW. One coworker was repairing/soldering a battery post on an 8D 12v battery & blew it up. U NEVR hammer on a battery OR terminals (sparks). U use an expansion tool that opens clamps. Love ur videos, ur a young guy, I want u to live long.🖖Not worth short cuts Ray.
@neilt87903 жыл бұрын
Modern batteries don't vent like that, it's not the 1970's.
@ford63 жыл бұрын
Sincet the battery wasn't strapped down he could have also easily removed the battery taking that risk entirely out of the picture. Both literally and figuratively in this case
@paullanyi5163 жыл бұрын
I agree with Rice and Ford6 . . Leaving battery in place not a good idea when doing that procedure.
@accountant021303 жыл бұрын
I can see your argument ... I dont want to say is good or bad ... but I would not be making the battery a "work bench" .... just take it out ....
@gerrynightingale90453 жыл бұрын
*Blame the 'Econo Box' battery if there's a 'poor fit' and the batt. has excess 'wiggle room'* *DELIBERATELY 'torching out-gas Hydrogen' is a 'first' for me!* *WHY?!?! risk that in the first instance?* *Just to 'prove a point?'* ( *You only have to be wrong ONCE and the results can be 'instant disaster' for whoever does it, like playing 'Russian Roulette'* )
@johnbell69563 жыл бұрын
The gift that keeps on giving. Cutting back corroded wire 1 inch at a time.
@robertturner62493 жыл бұрын
Man, the easiest thing in the world is to fix battery connections but people are so lazy and clueless it unreal. Good job Rainman
@Cyruscosmo3 жыл бұрын
I will second that recomendation. I service a fleet of 22 trucks, 8 cars, and all the power tools and equipment for a company here is Seattle. I have used a similar corrosion inhibitor made by Krylon for about 15 years now and have very little if any terminal, post, wire or battery tray corrosion. The stuff is amazing!
@donwyoming19363 жыл бұрын
It's at this point, ole Don just installs new battery cables. But, I love my heat shrink too.
@mattbartolovich82282 жыл бұрын
I would have put new cables on and been done!
@RideAcrossTheRiver2 жыл бұрын
It was fun with the old Taurus wagon to put in Briggs & Stratton heavy-gauge lawn tractor cables: red to power box and black for battery ground to body. Beautifully made with solid crimps and shrink rubber. Skinny Ford cables corroded when vinyl coating fell apart at the ends.
@richardwernst3 жыл бұрын
FYI, if you need a large lug for thick wires, you can use a piece of copper pipe! Just flatten one end and drill appropriate hole for attaching to terminal. Now you have a lug.
@jasonwood73402 жыл бұрын
That is brilliant! Thanks for the idea :)
@thebanjoman19632 жыл бұрын
Dated a Girl some 30 years ago who's brother put in a new battery for her. He also stretched the terminals to where it wouldn't get tight. NO PROBLEM..He bent a penny and wedged it in between the terminal and the post, gouging the post and further ruining the clamps. Old Abe did the job proud.. 😀
@GC-qe8vc2 жыл бұрын
I love all the comments like: "After 39 years in the military, where I used to solder 57 joints a day, just a quick idea, why didn't you use NASA-certified lug nuts and powerplant-grade solder to make 12 independent connections to the battery? And by the way you should use flux and change all the capacitors like other KZbinrs do!"
@KuntalGhosh2 жыл бұрын
Not all comments are wrong. This is the first time i am watching him do something so wrong that even 3rd world mechanics would be in shame. A proper crimp makes better connection than tin solder. If the force is set right the copper strans will turn to a big solid block and there will be no gaps left . Moving the joint right after u done crimping is also a big no no. It can cause cracks and result in arcing.
@dcolb1212 жыл бұрын
@@KuntalGhosh Yes, this was really poorly done. I'm also fairly certain you meant to say to not move the joint right after soldering, NOT crimping.
@jbfpv163 Жыл бұрын
Ray, please don't take this the wrong way but I would love to show you some of my tips and techniques for soldering. My 2 cents would be to fill the connection half full of solder and tin the connecting wires, then heat the terminal side to bond together. Fresh solder loves to flow together quickly.
@NemoConsequentae3 жыл бұрын
Love the hi-tech 'tubeless' wheels on the 'soldering station'! :D
@scottpowell55833 жыл бұрын
Soldering with acetylene is awesome! It's so fast. Today was use what ya got day. Fixed and send it! Cheers Ray
@inaz19633 жыл бұрын
'Clean and tight' is desirable for more than just battery connections.
@gosmo45042 жыл бұрын
Gigity
@stevenmack99482 жыл бұрын
😜
@johnnymoore9313 жыл бұрын
I think you could make a video of paint drying and make it interesting. I really enjoy watching your videos and always learn something.
@DomManInT13 жыл бұрын
Here is why you have to at least partially crimp it first - If you add the solder first, your crimp might not actually make physical connection to the copper wire and if for any reason the connection overheats and melts the solder away, the connection becomes loose, increases resistance, and becomes even hotter. But, you do you. Even when that does not include best practices.
@ronh17523 жыл бұрын
I was slightly perturbed when he crimped after soldering, because I was thinking that if the solder wasn't still liquid, not he's mashed up the sold solder into bits, introducing air passages and sort negating any benefit you would gain from soldering in the first place. IMHO
@richardwernst3 жыл бұрын
Yup, crimping first would have been preferable
@bullypopful3 жыл бұрын
You're allowed to teach without sounding like a dick at the end
@gerrynightingale90453 жыл бұрын
*He wants to fill all the voids w/solder and if the opening was too much, I'm not seeing it because those 'fresh ends' seemed pretty 'snug' from the amount of torque he was using to 'seat the fixture down'* ________ *The kind of 'electrical over-heat' you're talking about would only occur from a 'complete dead short' that would almost certainly destroy the vehicle from fire* ( *He did a 'voltage check' on the dash and a meter both and if there was some poor connection, he'd see it and 'feel the heat' from the pos. terminal as well* ) ________ *You're 'making something out of nothing' and that's just plain 'trolling'*
@DomManInT13 жыл бұрын
@@bullypopful Right. But one of my loose ends is a dick. LOL
@r.fortner46612 жыл бұрын
heat shrink is fantastically magical and hypnotizing!
@mikecarlin33963 жыл бұрын
I would use a single post battery terminal connector. Never have a flame around a wet cell battery as the battery may have hydrogen gas around it and it the battery could explode.
@jamesu3 жыл бұрын
I usually just pull the battery if I am going to solder terminals and I also prefer the single post terminals unless there is a specific need.
@hiscifi29863 жыл бұрын
The battery doesn't just have hydrogen. It has 2 parts hydrogen and one part Oxygen, the exact proportions to be explosive.
@dyer2cycle3 жыл бұрын
@Gormen Freeman ..those cheapo "economy" type batteries(like this one) are the worst to gas....
@Torrestorres26242 жыл бұрын
Ray, you had me at “torch.”
@edwardberwind85443 жыл бұрын
Ray, JMO. I would never use a torch near a battery. I know it's supposed to be a sealed unit but any trace of escaping gas and you are risking an explosion, big time..
@dyer2cycle3 жыл бұрын
..yeah..I was thinking the same thing...I'm not exactly a safety nut, but I wouldn't have done that...
@sockmonkey33933 жыл бұрын
All batteries discharge explosive gas. Using that torch on top of that battery was super dumb.
@davidbrogan6063 жыл бұрын
No. You don't understand what causes an explosion. The air has to be still and the battery has to be working. Just sitting there it is not producing hydrogen. The fan blowing is good enough even if it were being charged.
@davidbrogan6063 жыл бұрын
@@sockmonkey3393 No, you lack understanding.
@sockmonkey33933 жыл бұрын
I lack understanding that all batteries are either charging or discharging and therefore always creating explosive gases. Ive seen batteries explode just because it didnt doesnt mean he shouldnt be doing it.
@thomasdesmond22483 жыл бұрын
A tip when heat shrinking to wires together. I like to melt a hot glue in to the end with two wires. Helps keep moisture out. God bless
@thatsfunny77293 жыл бұрын
At that point, why not just use marine shrink wrap?
@etherealbolweevil62683 жыл бұрын
Back in the '80s, an Automobile Association (UK) roadside recovery mechanic told me that anytime he was called out to an American car broken down, it was the battery.
@stevenmack99482 жыл бұрын
I work for the AA & Green flag & a lot of the American cars are small family cars or 4×4's, a lit are built in South America or Eastern Europe & are generally unreliable, only Ford make good cars & vans.
@stevenmack99482 жыл бұрын
A lot had changed since the 80's & when it comes to car build quality its nothing good, Only Ford can hold their head high.
@paulschlobohm72262 жыл бұрын
I like the way you talk yourself thru the procedure to combat boredom. This too I do. Maybe I should make videos. lol
@nigelcox14513 жыл бұрын
I was a little worried with the flame above the battery, but then, if it had gone wrong, we probably would not have been watching the video. I've seen the top lift off a battery, when a clown refused to put his cigarette out when collecting one that had been on charge. Luckily the top lifted off in one piece, hit him in the face, shielded him from the acid that followed. I appreciate the theory of not charging/discharging, and with fans running, but I think out of fear, I'd have lifted the battery out. Then tripped over it. I'm also surprised the manufacturer gave you enough excess cable to be able to chop some off and it still reach.
@Flowtester13 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. I had an auto mechanics teacher tell me he had seen two batteries in 20 years blow up and he didn’t want to see it again. He said it’s pretty violent when they blow up. I’ve never seen it.
@nigelcox14513 жыл бұрын
@@Flowtester1 You do not want to be nearby when it happens, acid goes every direction, and quite a long way. My brother blew one up in his kitchen. Left it on charge overnight, found bits embedded in the ceiling next morning, including bits of the electronic charger he'd left on top of the battery. When manufacturers supply the shortest cables on anything electrical, but the battery leads on a charger are quite long, there's a reason.
@duanebuck1933 жыл бұрын
I have a Class A RV with 4-6 volt batteries that I use the terminal spray on - the difference is well worth the mess that the spray creates in keeping corrosion and buildup off the terminals of it. I made two pieces of plastic to slide under the terminal ends so that the spray isn't all over the top of the battery as well.
@darrenashley1263 жыл бұрын
I will say that I finally have something that I don't agree on. I to have a lot of experience and I found that tapping on battery terminals to be a no no due to the fact that I found that it can loosen the seal and acid makes it's way up the terminal and the battery fails sooner. Here in Australia we don't have inspection caps like we did in the old days, so we can't service them. And yes you made me cringe when you used a flame so close but you can smell it and I can't. I do enjoy watching but maybe cleaning the terminal would be a better Idea by shaving a little off to fit?
@safetyboots26423 жыл бұрын
Interesting point. Never woulda thought they would be so fragile to love taps.
@neilt87903 жыл бұрын
I've been tapping battery terminals on for 35 years, never had a faliure.
@randyarock3 жыл бұрын
Especially with a cheap-o battery like the one here.
@mitchstaff82813 жыл бұрын
Why do people from Australia always mention where they are from? It's not like you have anything to be proud of as your country succumbs to a medical tyranny. Tapping a battery terminal is nothing compared to your collective cowardice.
@DougHinVA3 жыл бұрын
@@neilt8790 good for you. does that make it accurate and true?
@manlyotool11653 жыл бұрын
In today’s episode we see Ray not just shaking hands with danger but, giving danger a big hug.
@madmatt20243 жыл бұрын
I don't know what you have them available to you at your shop but at mine we have crimp/solder on battery terminals. Those would have been far more ideal in this situation than ring terminals and clamp on universal battery terminals. Even a single stud battery terminal would have look more professional. Either way, you have to work with what you've got.
@dyer2cycle3 жыл бұрын
..yes, what he did looks like it will work alright, but it doesn't look professional..I would have used either the crimp-on battery terminals, or just replaced the battery cables....
@jamesbrown11772 жыл бұрын
That's cutting torch not torch for sording
@Mazda626gtturbo2 жыл бұрын
Dipping the wires in some flux would clean up the connection a lot better. A Big tip is if that you can stretch the heat shrink a bit by putting it over a needle nose pliers and pulling the Handles apart.
@joemuncie91873 жыл бұрын
I always tin all the components separately, then join them together with more heat.
@lorenzo42p3 жыл бұрын
helps to ensure you don't end up with a dry solder joint. same helps with glues too
@davidbrogan6063 жыл бұрын
That's a fine way to do it but the way he did it is not wrong and it will never have to be replaced.
@guuuu6663 жыл бұрын
I like to melt the solder wire inside the terminal with propane and quickly dunk the cable until it cools and holds.
@fonso11283 жыл бұрын
Older Toyota top post terminals w/ wing nut would been best for this repair.
@lesterfougere69232 жыл бұрын
Wow,nice job Rainman. Often overlooked but so important,Lester from Canada
@andrewmtarbell3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't use it for terminals, but I'm sure you would come across a reason at some point. But have you heard of marine shrink wrap? Has epoxy inside that melts when you shrink it. Makes it waterproof and a lot stronger of a join.
@RainmanRaysRepairs3 жыл бұрын
Oh yea, I love it
@JerikoAsmodeus3 жыл бұрын
I do quite enjoy your videos. The way you explain what and why and make jokes about it all reminds me of when I was a kid watching my dad and grandpa. So yeah, thanks for that 😊
@michaelvalcourt99783 жыл бұрын
Open flame above the battery? Yikes!
@an04ker3 жыл бұрын
Which is perfectly fine. I gather you’ve never seen a traction battery been carbon rod soldered?
@RyyFoo2 жыл бұрын
@@an04ker nope
@johnhenryholiday49642 жыл бұрын
Wow... Ray has the largest soldering iron in Florida.... ;) You motivated me to go clean my terminals.... they look like crap and winter is heading our direction in idaho.....
@ralfie88013 жыл бұрын
I gotta ask: Is there a reason you solder a lug on the cables and then bolt the lug to another one of those terminals? Just curious about it because you can get solder on battery terminals that are metal instead of lead and you can eliminate 1 connection on each cable. I’m thinking less connections = more reliability.
@tuba70843 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing. I keep a few different sizes of pos. and neg. solder battery terminals in stock. If I remember correctly, they weren’t too bad on price either.
@ralfie88013 жыл бұрын
tuba7084 Not a sponsor as Eric O. would say, but I get them at NAPA and they're relatively inexpensive for what you get compared to the common lead terminals. You just have to make sure you get the ones from the boxes on the back room shelves. If you get them or the battery terminal replacement bolts from the lazy Susan peg board in the front of the store, they're a lesser quality product and are more expensive.
@tuba70843 жыл бұрын
@@ralfie8801 I purchase mine from a wholesaler online. I also keep the brass ring terminals like Ray used for bolting to starter, chassis ground, or group 31 stud post batteries. I like my battery cables to look factory like and be made with quality workmanship that will last for years. I’m sorry, but if I saw that type of repair made to my vehicle that I used my hard earned cash to pay for, I would not be happy. The normal vibrations and bumps and rattles that a vehicle encounters daily could cause those terminals to come loose and resulting a no start situation and a comeback with an angry customer. Not worth the headache!
@ralfie88013 жыл бұрын
tuba7084 Well I guess the kicker is that the vehicle arrived with the cables pinched in the same exact terminals, which I would never use on anything. So chances are the owner will never say a word about it since he either put the original ones on, or paid someone else to do it and didn't care. From the sound of it, neither of us would accept a repair like this one, but it's still a better connection than what it showed up with. I'm just of the opinion that if I'm making new or repairing old battery cables with new hardware, I'm cutting the total number of cable connections down to 4 because it's just more reliable. Edit: I've looked online, but in the end I don't use that many, so I buy a few at a time locally and always have a couple for those emergency weekend farm repairs.
@brianmegagorgeous2 жыл бұрын
i'm positive that that is a good job the electrons will flow freely now
@kjisnot3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen the new lug soldering before so that was pretty cool. In my years as a shade tree mechanic when i see that green corrosion making it's way up the cable like these had it's probably time to replace the cable since that stuff continues to degrade the cable under the insulation. I wonder if they will last longer by soldering or if the corrosion will win the battle by next year.
@Posichronic3 жыл бұрын
Crimp, solder, heat shrink and it will pretty much last forever, especially if you start with marine grade cable.
@georgeh96623 жыл бұрын
If i was working on my personal car, the cables would have been replaced. however if it was someone else's then the cable would stay. Avoid the bitching
@Peter-pv8xx3 жыл бұрын
I know some people knocked them but the side terminal design I thought was great, my 97 s10 and my 2001 LeSabre both have them as well as other gm cars I've owned and I've never had a problem with them. They have those new style replacement terminals with accessory and battery connections you simply cut the original wire then insert it into the new terminal and tighten it in with a screw.
@125sm33 жыл бұрын
Got to love the industrial soldering iron 😂
@taxidude3 жыл бұрын
It's included in my new book 101 Uses For A Gas Axe! I cover everything from cooking hamburgers to cut price cremations! :)
@conanharris34723 жыл бұрын
I guess he didn't have a propane torch.
@garyschwabel60533 жыл бұрын
So glad there is not a leaky battery next to that torch coboom
@deathmetalmachine3 жыл бұрын
I got to give you credit you take some risky chances when it comes to working around cars also I mean you do an amazing job OSHA see these videos they will be having a heart attack right now putting a sailing towards next to a battery for soldering lol
@neilt87903 жыл бұрын
If you think that's dangerous I'm afraid it suggests you're inexperienced.
@spelunkerd2 жыл бұрын
A quick way to prove a bad ground wire, anywhere on its course, is to clamp a test light to bat neg post without disconnecting it, put the other test light clamp to engine anywhere. So the test light is measuring current from ground to ground! Crank the starter and watch the light. If the light glows, you've proven voltage drop somewhere in the ground wire. From there you can walk back and do the same test over shorter segments to localize the problem area. More fun than guessing.
@toadady3 жыл бұрын
anyone else catch the missing radiator mount bolt? You see how the hood bumpers are painted white? first sign of a collision repair, so somewhere in the corner of a body shop there's a lone bolt missing it's Ranger.
@yyz47613 жыл бұрын
Funny
@tbozzz87853 жыл бұрын
We must rescue it! No bolt or nut left behind, especially for our danger rangers!
@redactedlogic3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you about the shrink wrap being very satisfying.
@troyfuller353 жыл бұрын
Would have liked to see some diag work before spending an hour replacing terminals, voltage drop would have been cool to see.
@FixIt19753 жыл бұрын
Why? If there's loose connections, why go further?
@61rampy653 жыл бұрын
@@jackpoage5419 My experience is it's either all or nothing, with no in between. On battery terminals that is. Side note: it only takes .25 ohms of resistance to drop voltage from 12 to 1.5v at the starter!
@paulstott34442 жыл бұрын
Those terminal clamps were cr&p in the 50s and 60s, nothing new then. Tip for you, in high humidity climates, smear the battery terminals and the clamps with petroleum jelly, stops oxidiseation and battery acid attacks, worked here in UK back then. Good vids, with nice humour!
@terrytaylor3423 жыл бұрын
I’m really surprised that you got away with not wearing that battery
@Pizzpott2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that is one well used pair of mole grips you have there Ray. They still did the job though, Have a great day.
@MDBenson3 жыл бұрын
Looked legit to me, I mean a smaller propane torch woulda been better but you didn’t have it to hand so you do what ya gotta do! Only minor gripe is you left the oxidation on the copper lugs, but hey, it didn’t really effect anything.
@toddsonic3 жыл бұрын
I do that but "if there's room" I use single lug battery terminals typically used for boats and RV applications, I believe they have either 5/16 or 3/8 studs to mount your battery ring terminals to. As always protect the positive posts and make sure the battery is firmly bolted down.
@jamestamu833 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Rainman, but you really scared the sh*t out of me soldering so close to that battery! Hydrogen gas in the battery could have blown you up! Be careful my friend.
@davidbrogan6063 жыл бұрын
No, you don't understand how hydrogen is created in a battery. He was perfectly safe.
@roxanneabbott84243 жыл бұрын
Anyone who admits to an error and fixes more better is my kind of man!!!
@MrBugsier53 жыл бұрын
WELL ...THE GOOD ADVISE IS NOT IN THIS VIDEO SADLY.. iTS A HOW NOT TO DO VIDEO IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION..
@chipdayton16253 жыл бұрын
You should stick to mechanical repairs, you are really good at them. Electrical? Not so much.
@johncooper46372 жыл бұрын
I have some large cable cutters that shear not smash the wire and work easier than your cutters, too. The solder is electrical so it should have rosin core flux in it. Flux was obvious from the flames! In the future you should try to find some terminals that are designed for ring lugs - they are much better for that kind of wiring job. The ones I got for my motorhome and diesel truck have one bolt on either side. One for the ring terminals and one for the clamping function. Truck shops should have them or, in your neck of the woods, a golf cart shop.
@jacquelineoldhaver26723 жыл бұрын
That said, I have had technicians blow up batteries in my shop. My technique would have been crimp first then solder.
@N1NJ4K1TT3NNCT3 жыл бұрын
CRC also makes that battery corrosion prevention spray, and it’s red! We use it at work all the time.
@Puggy420693 жыл бұрын
22:30 I hate it when the circumference of holes are too big for the nuts to handle.
@darrenashley1263 жыл бұрын
OCD?? LOL all good in the end.
@dougbourdo25893 жыл бұрын
That's what She said !
@jim783 жыл бұрын
never seen it done this way but looks like it works, i usually put a little dielectric grease in those copper ends to prevent corrosion and the crimp using the crimper made for them then heat shink of course
@Biffo12623 жыл бұрын
Would have been perfect if you had put flux into the connector to allow the soLder to run into the cables. Multicore solder simply doesn't have enough flux for that application.
@davidbrogan6063 жыл бұрын
While you are not wrong, that connection will never need to be replaced.
@letiscafeschoolhouse11142 жыл бұрын
The negative terminal end that it came in with is a marine battery terminal. Can tell from what v remains of the protective coating.. BTW with as good as you are why not use crimp-on battery terminals? Then shrink wrap it. Returns cable to almost stock condition. Way better cast is less for parts. Instalation is exactly how you installed the lugs or you. Can crimp them on with a giant pair of stake-ons. Gives you a much better end result.
@travissmith22113 жыл бұрын
Not a "reee", bit it's kinda odd to see so much effort go into soldering lugs on and following up with heat shrink just to see it being bolted to chinzy lead terminals.
@michaeltaylor74362 жыл бұрын
Soldering with a cutting torch ! This took so long, must be a better approach. Brought on a big smile though.