“No Gangster Talks Like That!” Sammy Gravano & Michael Franzese Blow Up On Mafia States Podcast

Patrick Bet-David is joined by Michael Franzese and Sammy “The Bull” Gravano to talk about Mafia States of America.
The full series will be live to watch on mafiastatesofamerica.com on December 3rd, go pre-order now!

[@jakesciortino5605]

“No I didn’t SHOOT 19 guys, I’m INVOLVED in 19 murders” the most mafia statement I’ve ever heard😂😂😂

[@R.Tafolla]

“Allegedly”

[@JorgeRojas-ut3wj]

@@R.Tafolla Not allegedly. He admitted to all of them in court before he got his immunity.

[@R.Tafolla]

@@JorgeRojas-ut3wj no shit I was joking

[@creamydistortion]

I grew up around Guineas. They're all the same.

[@creamydistortion]

@Lesk Ou Guineas...

[@keevakyriel8257]

Never thought in my life I would see wise guys doing zoom meetings

[@billydoyle9984]

lololololololol........

[@billydoyle9984]

very very very unanticipated

[@billydoyle9984]

I grew up in a career but many comes from neighborhoods and NEVER EVER thought there would be Soap Operas like this

[@outlawz10thuglife]

What has the world come too. Goodfellas reference

[@alexcorrea4828]

You mean snitches

[@E-Wad]

Mike: Stop the bologna" Sammy: No gangster talks like that! Sammy: "The proof is in the pudding"

[@357trent]

💀💀

[@Sapientia-in-senectute]

😂😂😂

[@santsmartinez7513]

Lmao. I thought the same thing 😂

[@joe18425]

😂

[@MJAce85]

The proper vernacular is Cut the Malarkey

[@Gray.Karen333]

Sammy: *talks for 10 minutes straight* Michael: *patiently listens* Michael: *talks for one minute* Sammy: "Ok, so we're just gonna listen to you for three hours"

[@robsancho3978]

Lmmfao... That's the exact same thing I was thinking 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Frosty98206]

hahahahahahaha Micheal: "You Gotta let me Finish, "I Let you Finish"

[@adrianserrano4755]

😂😂😂

[@RicoRicardo]

Lmmfao

[@rubensantos5205]

@We Wuz Kangz Doe kkkĺl

[@cwc2022]

Michael: "Didn't mean to offend you, I'm sorry" Sammy: "I'm sorry too" Michael: "Now go home and get your fuckin shine box"

[@PinkuStyle]

Lmao

[@frankpitochelli6786]

🤣😅😂😅🤣😅🤣

[@newjersey4985]

it takes a big man to set it right Michael did that?

[@nicecutie]

michael: "that is sammy he makes the best vanilla lattes! sammy: "michael you been away a longtime i dont make lattes anymore"

[@cwc2022]

@@nicecutie 🤣

[@tycoon7300]

I love the guys conducting the interview. They did not say anything for almost an hour. LOL

[@koulee4957]

"You tried to shakedown Michael Jackson, it didnt work!" Lmao 😂

[@goathair33]

Just makes me realize how touchy the mafia life probably was. Lot of volatile personalities & you can offend someone and not even realize it and end up dead.

[@koltred]

just dont go around telling serial killers to "stop the bologna" lol

[@Maudit]

They didn’t like each other. There was respect because of the fact that you could go for direspecting somebody. So there wasn’t much.

[@randysavage1]

It was good in the beginning but franzees deflected hard when points got brought up he didnt like, then when he lied and sammy interjected to counter his point, franzees changed the subject instantly.....i know fake when i see it

[@easygrin1127]

Dont know which one off them would be worse to cross in their heyday

[@easygrin1127]

@@randysavage1 well Sammy git immunity for his 18 murders. Michael really cant be that open.

[@ThortheGodly]

"Lemme tell you somethin'!" "Lemme say somethin'!" "I'll tell you somethin'!" "Stop with your BS!" Man, I should watch mobsters argue more often.

[@stevedijkhof3109]

Vinnie??

[@JorgeRojas-ut3wj]

When Michael says Joe Pesci has the most accurate potrayal of a mob guy in film, he's refering to guys like Sammy lol

[@jollyrancher9016]

💯💯💯

[@Manny-nm8dh]

Joe Pesci characters were muscle more than brains, whereas Sammy was a balance of both. Other mobsters confirmed that.

[@JorgeRojas-ut3wj]

@@Manny-nm8dh sigh... Another Sammy knob gobbler in the building.

[@Rhyno9750]

You're thinking of William forsythe

[@am33x]

@@Manny-nm8dh Yeah lots of muscle from a 5'4 guy. He wasn't physically tough even in movies, where anything can be true. His character was always helped by others with a crime or whatever.

[@osbourne1073]

Michael deserves a medal for being able to deal with someone that dense. Imagine the kind of guys Michael had to deal with when he was in that life lmao

[@jamesnm21]

Sammy is touchy about being called a rat. Michael is touchy about being called a phony. Michael has the high ground on being a rat. Sammy has the high ground on being legitimate. Both guys are smart. Sammy has balls though.

[@PlanetDip]

he handles himself like a billionaire does. he knows when to shut up and knows not to make himself look like an outrageous lunatic. sammy on the other hand doesn't care and i'm surprised sammy isn't in the grave by now through his wild antics.

[@osbourne1073]

@@PlanetDip maybe people let him off considering his age 😂

[@johnniejay]

​​​​@@jamesnm21 Franzese was making the Colombo family $8million A WEEK at the height of his tax defrauding scam. If he pulled the trigger on someone or not is irrelevant - by the measure of that life, he was legit as it gets. Lets not forget that organized crime is about two things - money and power. Franzese had both in abundance.

[@jerronnorris5829]

🤔..

[@amywilkins543]

“Stop The Bologna!” I Love It!!!❤

[@Christrulesall2]

He said Bologna so much, i started to crave a nice bologna sandwich.😂😂

[@TstanDa-Man]

Who would’ve thunk back in the 1990s that these two would be on social media having this argument lol absolutely crazy and intriguing to watch

[@DiperdiZzLe83]

Mikey would be sprinting with Jesus to Daddy to Save the Day...

[@dimitristertipis3155]

Thunk? Who would of thought

[@olegvrublevskiy7869]

@@dimitristertipis3155 would of? would have

[@ImHappy582]

Never heard of em in the 90s so I wouldn't of thunk that

[@creamydistortion]

You can go to Staten Island and watch Guineas argue for free!

[@mackcarp8013]

"Let's pray for Sammy " that was a head shot with a silencer 😭😭😭

[@nightcrawler2717]

Mike big time troll 😂🔥🔥 that got into Sammy's head so bad lmaooo

[@Malouco]

That is something HR rep said to me after firing me

[@pk_1]

Looool

[@ga1226]

Lol...Bible does say "word of God is a double edged sword"

[@myron6305]

🤣🤣🤣 lmao Sammy got so fuckin heated about that hahaha. Sammy needs to humble himself now in his later years tho.

[@ClearviewTrading]

This shit is fuckin hilarious with them argueing like high school kids 😂

[@WinWin-oo4uk]

What high school did you go to❓

[@MrUntouchable1985]

I love Franzese as a person. Love all of his content.

[@mr.smithgnrsmith7808]

He’s a good man, man of Jesus Christ

[@nalmunati]

Checkmate when Michael says "nobody went to prison because of anything I've ever said. I made sure of that. Can you say the same?" Then a silence occurs. Omg I think I am invested into this entertainment they have created. But then I listen them collectively think of each other family and apologize at the end. What a relief. I respect them both now. What a great episode.

[@-The-Darkside]

He didn't make sure of anything, the judge fucked up and the case was thrown out, Franzese's still ratted on Norby Walters. Like the other guy said, where's the 15m fine he got and the government just ... forgot.. Carmine Persico saw Franzese as a rat, why would he say that if he wasn't?

[@harmankardon478]

its because sammy knows its bullshit... if the FBI had of needed franzese as a witness he would have testified... they don't take informants cut them a break and then give them the option to not put anyone away, that's bullshit from franzese

[@ianp7206]

Spot on sammys the rat !

[@harmankardon478]

@@ianp7206 they are both rats you sped.

[@DontDefuse]

People did go to prison because of him. Michael Franzese was instrumental to putting away several other Colombo guys. Do your research. Not to mention his testimony where he drops names and activities of other mob guys, video was put out 8 months ago. Both of them are rats, simple as that. That’s why they can do stuff like this today…stand up guys are either dead or rotting in a cell

[@MF-hz6xx]

I love how Sammy can bring a little less polished version of Michael to the surface. Both these guys are a great listen.

[@rosesummers6658]

I like how Sammy brought THE REAL MICHAEL OUT TO SHOW HIS REAL SELF. You go Sammy stay real!

[@JakYTTV]

@@rosesummers6658 wtf no. This sammy guy would piss anybody off.Fuck that guy He makes absolutely no sense just constant gas lighting

[@tarusht2085]

@@rosesummers6658 how do u know that real him

[@mrwizard7369]

Yep Sammy brings out Michael’s rage he’s usually trying to project a calm good natured kinda guy but Sammy’s got his goat big time lol

[@tarusht2085]

@@mrwizard7369 or just sammy is irritating which he is

[@ConvexFolds]

Watching recent meetings with Sammy and Michael they have sorted things out and have full respect for each other now; I'm glad they got things straighten out

[@user-su8oo6mc5n]

17:12 "Stop the baloney? Who the F in the mob says stop the baloney? What kinda statement is that?" LMAO!!!🤣😆👍🏾❤️

[@pathwalker2867]

Even Micheal thought it was funny. :D

[@dr.julianbashir9193]

17:12 is like a funny scene straight from the Sopranos

[@scottmalkinson6712]

@@dr.julianbashir9193 Tony would never say stop the baloney. he eats it by the caw load

[@HiHi-sm3ef]

@@scottmalkinson6712 Tony would never eat Bologna……Madone

[@Saturnia2014]

@@HiHi-sm3ef Bologna is Italian, tho

[@dnn86]

Patrick has mastered the art of talking and talking without actually having anything to say.

[@peo4989]

He could be a politician

[@pelicanbay2006]

He sucks too

[@doncarlo9345]

He started behave like one unconsciously.

[@epicon6]

I think Patrick did the opposite. The whole content is Michael and Sammy arguing and no questions actually got answered and Patrick just fueled the fire because his job as a host is to have them answer questions amd topics and keep the conversation on track. Michael and Sammy are like oil and water because no matter what question Patrick asked it all turned to Sammy accusing Michael and Michael defending himself and nothing actually got discussed. Their personalities only clash, so they need guidance to stay on topic and contant subtle reminding that it's not about arguing off topic.

[@playingheartonestaronelove314]

Sammy is simply so loyal nothing could ever change that God bless u Sammy 🙏🤝

[@denisemiron1341]

OMGOSH…..now I can understand how many murders could have occurred between family members and other players. Too many of them had powerful characters and depending upon who had the good sense of listening before talking over each other…which is fire to ignite rage. I hope for Micheal and Sammy that they come to a sit-down starting with more listening without interruption, patience and respect. These two are powerhouses with humongous life experiences…I send them peace in the winter of they lives.

[@ChinDulles]

Do you think Sammy intentionally shut his microphone or whatever the malfunction was toward the end? Lol I wonder.

[@JstKingx]

Like they've said many times things wouldn't go like that in a real sit down and even less when it comes to 2 members of different families... you can't go being disrespectful to other made men or the only thing you're going to achieve is losing respect of other members and being a hot head you are certain to get a bullet to the back of the head in that life.

[@denisclark5205]

send a prayer to someone in the mob is a threat

[@jimmyvega3735]

Michael is saying his testomonie didn't put nobody in jail, and Sammy is saying Michael didnt know that people wasent going to get in trouble because of his testimonies it just so happens that the Government made a mistake and nobody got in trouble because of Michael... Unbeknowest to Michael at the time. It's not like Michael knew they werent gunna do jail time, just so happen to have occurred. Moral of the story they both a little right and both a little wrong. Sammy is bitter because he told on half his family and Michael told on a long time family friend.

[@jaketimble9393]

Both of these men being who they are and what they did and do. Sitting down and talking and even doin a face to face sit down . Really shows you that the world is changing .

[@PeterParkedHer]

Sammy literally moved the goal posts and Mike kept scoring😂😂😂

[@Davido50]

Yes for sure. I like Mike a whole lot more in general. Respect him as a born again Christian ✝️. - NYC

[@Chris-ru3pm]

I swear....this started off and ended just like every Thanksgiving/Holiday Family gatherings I've ever been part off. At the beginning they all had the best of intentions of getting back together, when all of a sudden and out of nowhere it then quickly and abruptly escalated to a full on gloves off fight - no holds barred brawl, and eventually after everyone blew their proverbial loads off, they calmed down and admitted that there were things that were said that they regretted and in an about way apologized for their out of character actions. The best part about it was Pat and his cohost silently sipping on protein shakes and coffee listening to all of this. Thank you Pat for giving us another masterpiece!!! Happy Holidays everybody!

[@bluebeam1333]

LMFAO

[@doccholo905]

That's how old school wise guys do it lol. They go after each other's throats. Then chill out.

[@KYLEnSTITCH]

This is a super funny comment man loloolll Could you please tell pat to make the series free for one week for holidays pretty plsss? :)

[@creamydistortion]

Guineas

[@cuauhtemocmorisco3493]

Lmao true

[@cenecuh6785]

Love how the hosts are just sitting there letting them do this 😂😂

[@lucifer01b]

Both handled it well. It shows experience and control to be able to come down off of that rage and obvious personal hurt for both

[@IamKevinFinnerty]

Patrick the biggest gangster of them all! Making us pay for Mafia States is a straight up shake down!

[@creamydistortion]

He's in debt up to his eyebrows.

[@x09mm]

Ain’t that the sad truth

[@TD-il6ju]

@@creamydistortion ROFL. That is the funniest comment I have read on KZbin. Ever.

[@davidpanizzutti3043]

do not know why anyone would pay for something that can be viewed everyday of every week in a primary school ground between two little girls.....this makes them both look like idiots. I use to enjoy Sammys stories but this has ruined it as far as I am concerned, why the hell did his people agree to this shit.

[@jaycho6747]

It’s basically just 4 hours of Sammy calling Michael a rat.

[@nateshattuck4353]

I really think Sammys beef is because Mike was brought in to the life through his dad and Sammy came in through the grind of the streets

[@E.C.2]

And Salvatore was the one who would become the biggest betrayer.

[@axelarroyo3286]

I really like the two of them but Michael made a great point. Yes OK Sonny brought Michael in but he made his way and made a lot of money for the family. Sammy was not a big deal until after the Castellano hit and around that time Toddo officially stepped down. Michael was a big deal years before Castellano was killed. There's more to it than murders. Sammy was hurt by BS here. Michael did not say Sammy lied to get into the witness protection program. They gotta be men and step away to hash this out because it's nonsense. I wanna see these guys patch things up because I really think it's the best thing for everybody especially the viewers. It's also some clown shit that Sammy is calling him Michael Cheeseburger on his channel. Come on dude you're not 5 years old you're 77. You're better than that. "What gangster says baloney" what gangster calls someone a cheeseburger? Or anybody? I'm from south Brooklyn I've never heard that either lol.

[@E.C.2]

@@axelarroyo3286 The Bible says we are not supposed to curse.

[@merkcityboy834]

Really Sammy had no business in the life I remember in the movie Gotti he asked somebody why would he choose our life when he came from money.

[@E.C.2]

@@merkcityboy834 That was a great scene!

[@mysticricorok8481]

In like 1999 or 1998 as a young 20 yr old, my crew was partying pretty hard & was at a mansion after party in Scottsdale. Swear on everything I met Sammy & his nephew. Sammy was the nicest guy ever & treated us like family. Granted Im an east coast Italian raised guy with a pretty much all Italian crew I was with but still the dude was so cool to us & just wanted to treat us with respect & anything we needed he was on it...

[@ryggamortis7594]

Stop the bologna? Who the fuck in the mob says stop the bologna? Lmfaoo bro that had me dying, i love Michael and watch all his videos but that was hilarious 🤣

[@justmeradio]

You can tell Sammy didn't want Michael to say the words "how many people got locked up thanks to your testimonies" that shit haunts him to this day.

[@JaLa248]

Because Micheal played his hand better & didn’t Rat nobody out like Sammy did, that pisses Sammy off big time!

[@smileyfromthestreetz8624]

​@@JaLa248 Michael did rat someone out. It was a Jewish business man

[@badsolja1]

Sammy single handily put the nail on the coffin of the cosa nostra And ended what Rudy Giuliani has started Crazy to me how he talk about how tough he is and he cracked under pressure like an egg shell Loved how Michael intelligently “praised” him “ congrats. You put the gun on the back of 15 guys “ Just to tell him he cowered and weak individual he is And can’t confront face to face

[@hasefischer4638]

@@smileyfromthestreetz8624 dude never went to jail for what Michael said tho.

[@smileyfromthestreetz8624]

@@hasefischer4638 it’s still snitching

[@frankysmash9334]

I feel like having a heated exchange with you Patrick for charging 40 bucks for the “free” sit down.

[@ViNNYDICEnice]

hangin around all these mafia guys inspired Pat to shake down his audience

[@frankysmash9334]

@@ViNNYDICEnice my estimation of Patrick bet David just fucking plummeted.

[@sammyb.2980]

@@frankysmash9334 Totally agree, after all this then he wants to charge for extra episodes of this, sorry but when he really see that people isn't going to want to muscled out of 40 or 50 bucks and releases it on KZbin to try and recoop that half a mil he put into this

[@sammyb.2980]

@@ViNNYDICEnice That's the way it's looking

[@frankysmash9334]

@@sammyb.2980 definitely

[@robertbrewer2320]

Michael, been watching you for awhile now, along with a few others. Just finished watching ur podcast with Gravano. It's obvious HE has NOT changed and remains the epitome of Evil. It's equally obvious you have changed. I wanted you to know, I believe YOU, I respect you and your decision to become a public Christian. Congratulations and Bravo for standing up for your faith and becoming the man you are today. You are now a true inspiration. Well done, keep up the good work.👍

[@oscarescobedo.1]

Well said!

[@oscarescobedo.1]

As the video shows, Michael is in the light, and the Bull is in the dark...

[@shaltonmartis1314]

The stop the balony back and forth was gold😂

[@jimmygift5305]

Didn't Patrick promise mafia states would be free on KZbin in an old podcast ?

[@-Mohog]

I think he did. And yet now it's 40 dollars if you want the whole thing.

[@maineeveryday3991]

I won't be giving them 40 bucks for this, that's for sure. They've slowed played and now even went back on his word to us. I honestly feel like they're taking me for a fool. This is a joke at this point.

[@_el_louie_213]

he’s shaking us down now.

[@Waltherppk78]

Definitely not paying lol

[@RedezBash]

Wouldn’t even pay 40 cents

[@mcsedvet]

I've ALWAYS had respect for Michael, what he did & how he handles himself!!! I admire him even more now!!!!

[@tedunseth3966]

Agreed. Sammy has 19 hits. He can never be reasoned with. He is a cold blooded killer. Always will be. Micheal has moved on. Great for him

[@javila6341]

Absolutely!

[@WardenOfTerra]

Cringe lol

[@JaLa248]

Me too!

[@JonnyQuest64]

You admire a walking, talking, pos for humanity? Do better. He's a 2 bit crook just like sammy n the rest of the "mafia". They wouldn't survive 2 days in Chicago because they can't handle any kind of pressure...they're wussies

[@darciawtrey2600]

Thank you Michael for being so humble, though it was very tough to not let the old demons out of the bag you managed this man very well. God bless brother.

[@jerronnorris5829]

🤔..was u watching the same video? I'm jus ask'n 🤔

[@darciawtrey2600]

@@jerronnorris5829 yes,

[@darciawtrey2600]

@@jerronnorris5829 were you going to English class? Just asking?

[@Csal406]

Michael is a real man. So much self respect.

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

Define unreal man?

[@kami_1789]

​@@whynottalklikeapirata coward

[@katrinaball178]

God Bless you Michael. RESPECT my friend. What a gentleman.

[@joshshepherd5660]

And now here we are....real life actual gangsters arguing over what is essentially....social media misunderstanding. Fucking....um...it ruins everything it touches!

[@loronzoprice9899]

RIGHT

[@creamydistortion]

The Guineas were always so petty. I grew up around them...

[@THRAINofNAIN]

For real. It's infected so much of today's world

[@kelvinyoung904]

What are guineas?

[@KNU1312]

Michael probably called Sammy out for being a "rat".

[@Richking213]

"Let's pray for Sammy"....that would bother me too😂😂😂😂

[@nightcrawler2717]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MrWhatYT]

Big respect to Michael, can’t wait to see him in August

[@taymeecruz3323]

Thank you the ending is so much better

[@JoeMiller-wv8eo]

Could you imagine the stress and the confusion of actually being in the mob what Mike and Sammy are doing is probably an everyday routine with these guys holy shit 😂😂😂

[@nduclet351]

This is what happened between the racketeer (business men) and the gangster (muscle) two different mentalities completely , the difference is like a rocket scientist to a caveman it’s staggering!

[@altagraciaadames3483]

The difference is Frank Roesnthal looking tanned and relaxed still sharp as a razor conducting interviews on his past life , Wh8le Tony got whacked. MEYER AND benny Frank Costello and Anastasia. My man Big Pun said it best. IN THE STRRETS WHO SURVIVE IS NOT WHO IS THE LIVEST BUT WHO IS THE WISEST.

[@westonloomis]

@@nduclet351 except Sammy was both. He had extremely profitable rackets and was very savvy in business and he was also a successful hit man.

[@maineeveryday3991]

I'm not paying 40 bucks for a show that snuck in charges and slow played their release date many times. It's quite upsetting. I'm gona go cry in my corner. . I will keep repeating this while David's crew keeps deleting it. If I had a business deal with the same dynamics as first discussed at the very onset of the idea for MSofAand David pulled this, I'd be pissed

[@rong805]

BeeTv. That's where I watch all my stuff.

[@matthewward5849]

True. I ain’t paying for that shit either. Lmao

[@kingcross4631]

Lol I’ll watch the pirate version ahah

[@justuslehto4137]

Perfect answer

[@nemospodcast6766]

Whattt!?!?!? They’re charging people are you fucking serious it’s because david took them out to some extravaganza castle They had little vacation. They spend some money And now they’re cheap ass wants’s our money when this shit was always free on KZbin. It started on KZbin it should end on KZbin. I’m just gonna watch this, it’s gonna be the samething! This was all free before on KZbin now they want to charge. Greedy ASS PPL.

[@origin-al9585]

This is great it is like a comedy sketch. You can tell Michael did a lot of growing up and won’t curse, and Sammy’s keeps making fun of the fact that he says BS and bologna

[@allstopblue5717]

It’s funny as hell. I find it lame as fuck to go from mafia to reverend. But that’s just me. I also find it wrong to murder people for what it’s worth. But Sammy’s word holds more weight for me. He was fully in the life. Michael seems like he was in the life strictly due to his father. He only took things so far and got out as quick as he could. Sammy was a real deal mafioso. Again not saying it’s morally right or wrong either way. But that’s the truth

[@born2win262]

@@allstopblue5717 I don't find it lame. Michael is using the older life for good and sammy is still living in his past with his demons.

[@Ru-gv2if]

@@allstopblue5717 ​ Possibly listen to both on their you tube channels. You will have more information about each of their lives. I find both interesting.

[@meganostra6633]

Love both these guys! Got a world of respect for Sammy and Michael both. I hate to see them at odds wit each other. Hopefully they got this all straightened out.

[@debbiebrantley61]

They did,they now respect each other and get along

[@maineeveryday3991]

Swing and miss! For sammy saying "....IVE BEEN INVOLVED IN 19 MURDERS" followed by Michael's "Is that a badge of honor?"

[@koltred]

it is a badge of honor, it means that in a tribalistic setting, which if you ever watched politics america has always been in this state; sammy rules over michael. sammy has instilled fear in his enemies on a level that most people cant comprehend. hes real cosa nostra.

[@Ziv_Diamonds]

There is no pride in being involved with a single murder case, for Me he's a little person , I like to hear his stories while working though

[@Uptopbaby]

In that life it is a badge of honor

[@Ziv_Diamonds]

@@Uptopbaby fuck that life and fuck all those who used that life to murder and make other people families sad and caused children to grow up without their parents

[@aam000]

Sammy merely corrected michael who said sammy put a gun on 19 ppl.

[@darrinparkin718]

Michael, I’ve followed you for 15 years since I was an experienced prison chaplain for many years and introduced you to my inmates. Don’t feel bad for getting mad at Sammy and being colourful in your language. You’ve simply shown us your humanity and I appreciate you all the more for it. In fact I used to wonder with worry if your Christian faith might force you to become not real and conform too much to the religious mold. Your authenticity is what makes you so completely influential and worthy of deep respect. You stood your ground and showed yourself to be a fierce lion and I’m very relieved for it. I’m renewed in my desire to follow your work because I saw your raw anger tonight.

[@damonjones9606]

"The religious mold." Interesting comment, as a Christian i admit maybe I struggle w/ church culture & how to be. Maybe that's why I like men's group, prayer groups & bible study because I can be more authentic and real. But maybe I'm guilty of presenting myself a certain way too? Not to be fake but faking it till I make it kind of thing

[@hubertposadas8279]

Very good point. Salt of the Earth comes to mind. Not homogenic bland cookie cutter pasted Christian. I myself have a problem in Church because I am not yet fully comfortable with the culture. And I have been in church for more than a decade. Truth be told I struggle even fully accepting Christ. Somehow your statement helps.

[@altagraciaadames3483]

So with all due respect 🙏 The good reverend Darren, so you off on Micheals Raw anger. MICHAEL SHOULD HAVE SHOT DOWN THAT LITTLE PSYCHOPATH WITH EARTH SHATTERING SCRIPTURE, TO STRAIGHEN OUT IT PUTRID LITTLE SPIRT.

[@darrinparkin718]

@@altagraciaadames3483 I don’t understand a single thing you are saying

[@missysbloglife]

Even Jesus got angry!

[@SootyHunt]

It’s crazy we can watch this between two former Mafia main men…. Imagine how they would of had this argument if they were both still in the life…. You gotta love the internet for enabling this to happen…. This will be around forever and is deffo history now… No-one has ever witnessed this kinda confrontation before…. It’s nuts !!!

[@chadglasson6204]

Mr. Franzese is a extremely intelligent man that no other can possibly compare to! Congratulations on your salvation!

[@doublem1971]

Straight up Light and Darkness. Michael has left the darkness for the light while Sammy remains in the darkness.

[@digitalsoldier3894]

The lighting makes it look like Michael is an Angel and Sammy is a Demon 😂

[@JohnnyIbbs]

Michael Franzese stand up guy, has class. Knows how to argue to the point with an open apology numerous times.

[@donnastokes-manning6175]

I agree.

[@joeyswoles]

Stand up guy? C’mon he might be a good person now, but he’s profiting off violating his oath, Michael says he never put anyone in jail but he has no idea what info he gave them lead to other investigations and other arrests and indictments, Old school guys would put a contract out just over these episodes if they weren’t in hiding. Sammy is trying to justify ratting and make himself sound better than Michael because John Gotti talked shit on a wire but that wasn’t the only material they had against him. He ratted again in Phoenix Arizona years later while in the protection program for operating an ecstasy ring. Point is they both violated their oath, betrayed their family members and are now profiting off it at 39.99 per clip, Michael is obviously a smart businessman

[@kv2723]

@@joeyswoles yeah, violated his oath to be committed to murderers and thugs. Lmao. He was in the life, he knows exactly what he told authorities and whether or not it put anyone away.

[@myron6305]

@@joeyswoles I highly doubt either one of them need the profit share of $40 from the videos. Michael’s not in hiding. He has meet and greets all the time. Hes not in any danger anymore.

[@RabbitConfirmed]

Michael Franzese is the manliest man I've ever known. For me who grew up without a father, I wish I had a role model like him. Good man.

[@flyerlansky1538]

Great stuff .. Michael is showing great restraint verbally.. 👍🏿

[@benz500r]

Michael is doing great. Comparing to Sammy, Michael is an intellectual powerhouse.

[@55cleon]

😂 NOT BY A LONG SHOT!!!

[@Guillermo_Carratero]

PBD is really going all Vince McMahon on this shit. Spicing everything up like it's Wrestle Mania and putting the whole thing on pay-per-view to boot!!

[@WpWp-ro5vh]

On 55 crip

[@usernameluis305]

@Lesk Ou for being such a great salesman i wonder why all of his biggest interviews are mafia people that dont really have anything of interest to say

[@xrovyn]

100% why was there even an "emergency" podcast to begin with then you clip all lil bits and post them lol. Obvious shameless PR stunt then hit us with the oh btw were charging. Im dissapointed

[@creamydistortion]

He's up to his eyebrows in debt.

[@liamm8328]

Sammy pulls out the ladder... table match forget about it...

[@HardtokillPodcast]

@PBD podcast are you guys ever going to release the actual finshed program of all this? With Sammy, mike, rudi , and the actor?

[@lindaya7927]

I can't stop laughing listening to them both. Ones going red in the face the other chillen on his boss chair ping pong .. this is just so funny .. old school dudes so cool. Sammy is great 👍👍

[@JerryRiceBall]

I thought Patrick makes 10’s of millions of dollars a year... Seems strange that he needs to charge for the sit down. I don’t think many people are gonna be forking over the money for that.

[@felixsmokes420daily8]

i wont i thought it would be free,there are many youtubers that spend this kind of money for content,...

[@-Mohog]

Plus just putting the whole sitdown on KZbin would make a lot of money alone, a lot.

[@brettforseth3276]

I agree. Although i think he paid them a huge lump some up front like 6 figures

[@Dick.C.Normous]

pirate bay all day

[@caseyc4516]

Do you all work for free??

[@CheckinVidsOnline]

The issue is, Micheal has matured in his thinking over the years; He’s reformed and changed his old ways. Whereas Sammy, is still thinking in terms of being a Mafioso! This isn’t the 80’s… Not only that, but you have to remember, STATUE (My grammar is fked 🤣🤦‍♂️) OF LIMITATIONS. So, Michael, is smart enough not to speak on issues, that could potentially get him jammed up from his past ways!

[@CyberWeez]

A sculpture of limitations

[@patrickcovault2280]

*statute. I really don't like to "grammar nazi". I don't mean to belittle or embarrass you by correcting you,so I apologize if I come off wrong

[@keepitshmexie9213]

@@patrickcovault2280 statute? What’s that? Statue of limitations is what he’s speaking about.

[@evanbarnett1088]

sammy has it all out there bc he has nothing to lose, he told it all when he testified. Michael is different, he could lose it all

[@burnsloads]

Michael reformed himself into a meatball whereas Sammy is still a greaseball

[@tjpreston7623]

Good to see Sammy’s getting ready for the Fall season

[@eves08109]

Sammy reminds me of a dog chasing its tail and never catches it.😂

[@LJ-MMA]

Patrick making everyone pay for the sit down... "you broke my heart... you broke my heart" 😢

[@davetheplugpalumbo1621]

Underrated comment.

[@uknasa007]

not paying for it. will wait for someone to upload it for free

[@Rippel0000]

* gives him a Sicilian kiss of death *

[@uknasa007]

@@Rippel0000 what's one of those

[@CScuber14]

@@uknasa007 lmao read up

[@jonnyplastic]

Sammy had me dying laughing when he said Gangsters dont use the word Bologna.

[@shz6148]

man i died haha

[@DJEmonTV]

“What kind of a statement is that” 😂😂phahahahaha

[@JorgeRojas-ut3wj]

Sammy is always questioning Michael's tough guy status since he wasn't a street guy.

[@koltred]

@Lesk Ou its funny because sammy has killed over 20 people and ordered the hits of even more than that and hes got some rackateer telling him to knock of the bologna but the reality is sammy is as cosa nostra as you can get without entirely being destroyed by it

[@pepe_152]

@@koltred i mean didn't he become an informant how cosa nostra is that

[@paradiseplayer5103]

Sammy saying “I THINK YOU LOST YOUR F-KING MIND” at 36:00 is so funny 😭😭

[@codeallnight56514]

And Michaels says "What??"

[@philtrade3276]

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[@glocktavious]

The Podcast is 40$ (20 To the Captains “Sammy & Michael” ) and 20 to The Boss (aka it’s EXTORTION)

[@forex_shark6042]

That's not what extortion is

[@gerardburke2517]

@@forex_shark6042 Yeah it is. Was originally going to be on KZbin

[@forex_shark6042]

@@gerardburke2517 lol, you have no idea what extortion is. Who is using violence or threats of violence to make you pay for it?

[@techbuildspcs]

Yeah

[@nateman79]

5 years of watching his vids… first time Ive heard Michael say ‘F**K’

[@shanewoods1980]

I know you right!! And......bullshit! And he had a couple of other words I’ve never heard come out of his mouth!

[@sammyb.2980]

Micheal is a hustler He will drop a few words to try and sell this thing, but I bet he will lose some points in the long run🤷

[@laszlofejes402]

Omg!! This was priceless! However, could you take this further?? I would love to see Michael, Sammy, Junior Gotti and perhaps Miky Scars in a same set up of discussing these same issues!!! That would be an even bigger hit!! Please listen to my request Patrick!!! Thank you in advance!

[@alanaspinall7147]

I think after Sammy met Micheal family, he come to see Micheal in a diffrrant light, he admited he was wrong about Micheal, and now saw him as a genuine person.

[@frankie1012]

Muchael’s dad was a true gangster. Man did 50 years so he wouldn’t have to betray his oath.

[@joedwyer3297]

On a crime he likely didnt commit too. Some man

[@exequielalonsocaceresdelar7007]

This is the angriest I've seen Michael so far, and I've been following him for about 2 years

[@reginaldbstewart395]

For anyone that did not know, Mike has a WHOLE LOT of gangster in him. What we see here is a completely different person than what he has been showing. He left the life behind, but it is still in him. He tried hard not to curse but talking to Sammy made him transform.

[@SmithCommaBenjamin]

@@reginaldbstewart395 I've seen a few interviews where he, or his family members, talk about how when he goes out, he needs people around him to check his temper.

[@doncarlo9345]

Remember his boss is Carmine Know as The Snake. So they behave like a snake, while Sammy boss is John Gotti known as stand up guy who doesn't give F if people know he was a gangster. But I saw in an FBI interview said Gotti was once catch on tape speaking about Michael father he said Michael Francezese tough guy, Michael Francezese tough guy and continue speaking in different tone and repeat again and again with himself. To show how a tough guy like John Gotti think Michael Francezese is a very very very very very very tough guy even to another tough guy.

[@OldSchoolBoxing1]

Same 😂😂, strange to see.

[@wingcommanderdaltonwalton67]

Both arguing over who tells the truth when the fact is they both made a living from lying,cheating and hoodwinking everyone they came across.

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

This reminds me eerily of all the lunch break conflict resolution sessions I sat through back when I taught special school out in the projects … 🧙🏻‍♂

[@raulsanchez684]

This is world class entertainment man!! Love it

[@montanasxm]

Michael Franzese right now: "Just when I thought I was out, They pull me back in"😂 Amazing how Michael kept his cool and no a single curse while Sammy was obviously gone on his old ways.

[@MegaGavone]

He said Bullshit

[@jeffreykoran4820]

Round one goes to MICHAEL

[@itchyrocks5557]

@@MegaGavone Yup, said BS the first time then bullshit the second. Got too worked up to continue with the balogna tirades 🤣

[@MegaGavone]

@@itchyrocks5557 hahaha. 200% right man. Bologna was hilarious!!!

[@itchyrocks5557]

@@MegaGavone Funny, cuz I thought saying balogna WAS invented by the Mafia! Isn't that what Joe Pesci was saying in Goodfellas? "Spider, make me a balogna sandwich!" Maybe that confused people, thinking he wanted an actual "balogna" sandwich, when he was meaning a "f*cking sandwich!" but used the word "balogna" in classic mafia curse words. Same in Casino when DeNiro came into his restaurant to grab Sharon Stone and he told him "Remember where you are, I don't want no balogna in my place! Be nice!" I just figured Franzese was copying Pesci's movie roles! Maybe I'm just full of balogna here (excuse my language)!

[@kanumber1]

Im listening to this at work and my boss comes and thinks I'm in the middle of an argument with my family lol

[@natashaatsatt7801]

There’s no way I could listen to Mafia States of America at work! I’d get fired cause Franzese makes my blood boil and I end up screaming every time I see this guy talk down to the legend Sammy the Bull is!

[@messymeechy5590]

Ummm.(scratching my head) oh so your while family sounds like Italian wiseguys huh,i mean if u say so buddy and also remember these YT likes that u seek so desperately they have zero worth pal a whole lotta nothing

[@kanumber1]

@@messymeechy5590 geez you even write like one 🤣🤣🤣

[@rabikhan589]

@@natashaatsatt7801 Sammy isn't gonna shag u

[@trissloan2340]

😹😹😹😹😹😹😹🎊🎉🎊🎉🎊🎉😁😀😃😄😆😅😂🤣🤣😂😅😆😄😃😀😁😀😃😄😆😅😂🤣🤣😂😅😆😆😆😆😄😄😄😃😀😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁🍸🍸🍸

[@denasewell]

Egos and braggadocio are exactly what was exploited by the government to pinch people! Sammy The Bull Gravano is a legend who lives up to his name! Micheal Franzese was a made guy who grew up in the life but was obviously cut from a very different cloth than Sammy both men are multifaceted gems and I personally am so glad they both have prevailed and are able to share with us their experience. Sammy did what he had to do based on his circumstances and the people around him...Sammy would not be alive today and sharing with us his story if he did not do what he had to do! Both men are very different fundamentally and that is ok we appreciate them both!

[@JokersWild70]

Michael has said that he is more of a racketeer, and Sammy is more of a gangster. One is educated, and the other is a street guy.

[@TheNoSuchThingPodcast]

Two type A’s at each other’s throats. Crazy to watch these guys go at it. KZbin is amazing 😂

[@AK-rv6dq]

Damn...this is amazing, Patrick. I appreciate all the hard work it took to get here.

[@badsolja1]

Hard work ? Lol This man leaching for free

[@AK-rv6dq]

@@badsolja1 arranging those two together takes at least a bit of elbow grease, but yes, he is coattailing.

[@elliemathews6884]

Sammy is so obviously jealous of the successful life Michael has. Michael is a true gentleman and is a class act.

[@Ouash1]

Sammy feels like Michael didnt earn his way in the mafia.

[@motivatedcryptoxrp7676]

You have to admit that, sammy got mike to sweat😬

[@brianmcghee3597]

Sammy isn’t jealous. In life when you know a person has had a cupcake ride expose them and move on. Did Michael make his bones with a murder? Come on. Road his step fathers coat tail to mafia success.

[@carlosvegajr1979]

@@brianmcghee3597 Michael's father, Sonny, did what Sammy couldn't do as an underboss for the same family. Remember, Sammy did say that Sonny got a bullshit deal. Sammy going down for Gotti is almost the same as Sonny being framed, only Sonny Franchese did his time and Sammy cant and didn't match that.

[@brianmcghee3597]

@@carlosvegajr1979 True. Do ppl not realize Gotti Sr actually ratted? Not in the sense of giving information at free will but running his mouth while the apartment above the ravenite social club was bugged. A true family boss is slow to speak on all subjects especially implicating others. Big mouth Gotti just talked talked talked for no reason. Big Paul wasn’t a street guy but he never ran his mouth like Gotti. His home on Long Island was bugged but NO talks about family affairs. Just him and his mistress who was his housekeeper.

[@jesus85ize]

This is awesome Patrick. This is gold

[@chico1neep]

I LOVE how Sammy is ALWAYS gonna have that made guy cosa nostra mind it'll never leave him Sammy is a GOOD guy BADASS guy

[@joaoserra3839]

Badass guys don't talk and put other badass guys in prison especially their bosses, Sammy was the first guy in the history of the NY Mob to be a member of the inner circle of a family and turn state's witness... For all the BS, fact is Michael's testimony is far less damning than that of Sammy, Norby was only convicted for 5 years and didn't even serve that, Michael incriminated himself more than anyone else in his testimony. Michael served much more time in prison than Sammy, Sammy barely served a year precisely because he gave them life sentences on Gotti and LoCascio and effectively destroyed the Gambino family overnight, it is hilarious to see this guy of all people accuse anyone of being a rat, most of all Michael who again was convicted for the most time out of anyone in his testimony and is the only one named in his testimony who served any time at all. Michael has been back to New York since and survived, Sammy never went back and knows he can't ever go back. That should tell you something

[@johnbutler2780]

If he killed your child would he be a good guy still?

[@gamingdoppelganger1414]

Man this is some good stuff I hope we get to see more videos with both of them.

[@dskeetgt]

For Mike to end up cussing like he's done in this video, wow...I've never heard him curse in any of his videos. You can tell he's legit heated. Sammy is arguing like a teenager, Mike stays articulate for the most part. Mike has matured well beyond Sammy that's for sure. I'm not paying $40 bucks for this series either. I'll wait and find on my firestick where someone's ripped it.

[@steinhardt2262]

I have it.

[@kv2723]

Exactly. Mike is intelligent, fair, and well spoken. Sammy curses and talks in circles like a nasty old uncle who can't be reasoned with, because he can't win the argument

[@myron6305]

Agreed. Mike is mad enough to curse, it’s probably a good thing their not in the same room. I’ve watched a few snippets of the series and I thought they were gonna swing on each other a few times. We’re truly lucky to get a very small glimpse into what the life used to look like. Also I’m not paying $40 for it either, not when it’s going to come out for free on some platform sooner or later. $40 at Christmas time for a KZbin Podcast is fucked

[@yazanfarraj5499]

It's being called informat by the biggest rat in the mob that got him triggered he tries to not curse but Sammy brought that out of him with all that tough talk

[@billgober2]

Yeah no one with a brain is paying for this. Pat is a smart business man and whoever falls for his "racket" is getting played lol. He is straight up rich from this shit.

[@MASShimself]

Have you made enough yet to release it for free yet?

[@Randall2023]

Classic interview Mario PBD faces watching two former gangsters arguing lol 😂 🤣🥳❤️👑😎

[@myron6305]

Holy shit. This was years of anger and resent towards each other that came spilling out. For Michael to curse and drop the F bomb he was PISSED! Damn I wish I could have been a fly on the wall back the days when the Mafia was running in its prime

[@adamdix9125]

Got to give the bull credit. Mike is one of the most calm and collected guys ever, and even he is getting rattled. These mobsters really know their manipulative tactics and know just how to use them.

[@averagebeastt3606]

I lost it at the part when Sammy started talking about baloney lmao i can only imagine how these guys used to get heated back in their heyday.. Especially Sammy lol.

[@ExpatRalphy]

yoooo this is a fucking real sitdown on youtube this is crazy!!! this is the best I've ever seen

[@jro5262]

39.99? That's BOLOGNA!😂😂😂😂 But FR not paying that

[@spenyspen18]

michael has evolved. Sammy has a guilty conscience and still lives in the past.

[@merkcityboy834]

Yeah he does he damn sure not a underboss anymore.

[@johnwayne-3701]

Evolution is not possible if you can't admit what you are.

[@nagone11]

Bro...Sammy ratted out a lot of guys..

[@digitalsoldier3894]

Gotti was going to betray Sammy. Sammy found out and betrayed Gotti first. Sammy is bitter that his best friend he was always loyal to was suddenly going to betray him

[@justinlecroy3579]

@@digitalsoldier3894 What about all the others Sammy took down?

[@typocoproject]

PBD’s face during their sociopathic arguing is amazing.

[@jimmywalker8244]

Sammy is a tough guy, and I like how he can tell stories true or false. He just has a bad case of “little man complex”. Mike can say look any fool can shoot a unarmed man, he knows Sam will never be able to let that go…

[@SeamHead33]

we aint paying for this, you gave us blue balls and truthfully we aint gonna hear anything we don't already know

[@aurelianspodarec2629]

yeah lol

[@theperfectpour8549]

100%

[@justinbelcher3679]

Sammy Gravano is speaking from being butt hurt and a guilty conscience from ratting on John Gotti and those other guys. Michael is speaking facts. Michael is speaking from a standpoint of a man that's not in the life anymore. Sammy is spreaking from a standpoint of a wiseguy that's still in the life.

[@muhammadibnmusaal-chorezmi7240]

The just trash talk to promote the video

[@jeziscricket4448]

Thats phoney bologna pony mafia style

[@dianavines1665]

I love my wise guy's and the mafia life style, I grew up in Italian Neighborhood in Chicago and Italian Wedding and friends & family.

[@kevinchandler179]

Chicago is outfit is the real Cosa Nostra!!! I have my grandfather God rest his soul, was high made guy and my Uncle and Chicago had a real old school mentality!!! These guys were Sunday school teachers compared to Chicago!!!!

[@brutusthebuttress1476]

Say what you want but Sammy's production quality is really good man.

[@xenomorph42]

This was way better than the Tyson & Holyfield fight. Love Sammy, love Michael, these are just two men that grew up very differently and see the Mafia lifestyle differently and I don’t know based on their different backgrounds if they will every see eye to eye, but it is very interesting on how they both view time events and history. Both did bad things, both were from the underworld, both did time in prison and now both are on KZbin hashing it out to millions of people that always wanted to know what goes on in that lifestyle and this episode didn’t let up. Thanks again David for being one of the best informative journalists out there, you’re the best.