No Means Maybe Baby

[@ShadowDancer_]

25:00 something's not right here. If OP wanted things to stop between her and Redford, she should've *blocked* him after their last conversation.

[@yugifrolife]

This. As soon as she was done, being curious about how things would turn out, she should have black listed him.

[@LinkIsMine]

@@yugifrolife Not only that, but it unsettles me that she kept in contact with him over and over after he expressed having irl feelings for her when she is married. I could be wrong but I don't remember hearing the OP telling Red that she was married irl and had a husband the moment he mentioned having irl feelings for her. Not to mention the story is peppered with OP calling Red things like "cringe", "the plague", and "the big bad villain" as if OP is trying to make herself look better for stringing Red along and not blocking him sooner, because I think she enjoyed toying with him and having a dude chase after her. Okay OP, if this dude was so bad, why didn't you block him sooner? lol Just doesn't add up to me, and the only thing that makes sense is that she enjoyed the drama and him chasing after her. I'm not saying Red is innocent here but I don't think OP is innocent in all of this either. 😅 That's just my opinion and the vibes I get from this story.

[@yugifrolife]

@LinkIsMine oh for sure, both OP and Red are not innocent. However, the second OP mentioned not once but twice in the story that she wanted to see how things went. I went from pity to🚩🚩😒🍵 Yes, Red should have immediately backed off as soon as she said she was taken irl, BUT OP should have blocked him after the FFX cringe RP.

[@aussiedragonz]

@@LinkIsMine there were many times in the story that she mentioned being in a relationship in real life. i don't know how you managed to miss them.

[@LinkIsMine]

@@aussiedragonz Can you please give me a time stamp to the part where she says "I told Red that I was married and have a husband irl"? Would appreciate it. :)

[@thejinks-lx4qf]

Op sounds toxic tbh, the fact that they were laughing at the dudes actions with her friends makes me think she liked the attention. Very no bueno

[@markup6394]

How can you not laugh at this? OP ignored the guy for weeks and never started a conversation on her own (minos of course when her partner tried to talk sense) - it was him who never stopped.

[@kiiturii]

bro there is no way you are serious. Ofc this is something you laugh about with your friends, she shut him down multiple times and he just wouldn't listen I've had a similar experience where I had a stalker follow me for weeks while never talking, he would not let up even when I told him I was a dude irl, the only good part from that experience was laughing about it with my fc mates and sending them screenshots whenever I saw him. Saying that's toxic is absolutely ridiculous

[@LinkIsMine]

idk, I personally feel like OP kept leading Red on over and over just by giving him the time of day. If by the 3rd time he kept pushing after she said no, she should've just ended all communication and blacklisted him right then and there. The husband didn't have to get involved either. I can't help but feel like OP enjoyed the drama and enjoyed the feeling of this dude chasing after her (and secretly sharing their convos with her other friends to laugh at him) which is why she let it go on for so long. You can try and say it's hard to blacklist someone but after the 3rd time of him pushing for a relationship after she said no and not budging from his mindset, that should've been the end of the relationship right then and there, especially because OP is married and this dude said he had real feelings for her. I'm all for roleplaying to have fun with no feelings attached but if the other person says they have real feelings then that's when you need to drop them if you don't plan on pursuing a real relationship with them. Simple as that. OP should've known better if she didn't want things to get that out of hand and the way she talks about Red as if he's a villain also kinda unsettles me as if she's trying to make herself look better in the situation for leading Red on. That's just my opinion and the vibes I get from hearing this story.

[@DiusDius]

This. This guy clearly had like 0% Experience with women and was probably thinking he finally found "the one". Not saying his behaviour was fine or that he was somehow right, but she could have ended it waaaaaay earlier instead of all this

[@LinkIsMine]

@@DiusDius Yeah, just sounds like the OP was enjoying toying with Red tbh. That's just the vibes I get. And referring to him as "the big bad villain" doesn't set right with me either. If he was so bad, why didn't she just block him sooner? lol Just doesn't add up to me and I can't help but get this feeling that OP enjoyed toying with him the entire time and enjoyed watching her husband confront him and watching 2 dudes fight over her.

[@ShadowDancer_]

Preach!!

[@Kuponobu]

Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a fabricated story for the channel. OP sounds more like a storyteller than a victim of circumstance.

[@LinkIsMine]

@@Kuponobu I feel like the story is true, I just think that maybe whoever wrote it and experienced it was either young and immature and/or didn't want to look like the bad guy in the scenario (or look just as bad as Red) which is why OP kept talking about Red as "the big bad villain" or "cringe" or "the plague". As someone who is 32 and married, I've had kind of a similar situation with a guy in FF14 about 2 years ago, but I made sure to tell him that I had a fiancé irl (I wasn't officially married yet at the time) right away, to which he seemed fine with. As soon as he showed his true colors and tried to control who I hung out with I decided to cut all ties with him. I wanted to stay friends with him (and yes I told my fiancé about everything and he was okay with us remaining friends) because I did care for him as a friend but then I realized that friends don't treat each other like that, so that's when I decided to be the smarter adult and cut all ties and block him everywhere. He's probably terrorizing some other girl but ain't my problem anymore. XD But even though this guy hurt me, I still wouldn't go out of my way to try and paint him out as a total villain. He's told me about his mental issues and so that's probably where it all stems from I assume, which is why I can still have sympathy for the guy despite what he did to me and other girls and probably continuing to do to others to this day, but I would never call him a plague or a big bad villain, that just sounds like something a 16 year old would say. XD

[@BlackRoseCloud]

Me chanting "block him, block him, block him" if you are going to ghost him anyways then Block Them

[@novastarmew]

so we learn from these videos, that people are allergic to the block button.

[@FinalReKK]

LEGIT the first thing i came into the comments looking for. It really doesnt make sense lol

[@tiopapichulo2136]

Op obviously liked the attention lol

[@luckytanuki5449]

Found it funny how the wife tried to play it off as "oh how hard it is to be a woman, guys would never understand what its like to be a woman in a video game having to deal with these types of people". 1, yes we do, its not just women that experience this level of deranged creepiness online, and 2 That is so disingenuous to what women go through in real life. It is so easy to not associate with someone online, you simply block them and that is it, you no longer have to deal with it, doesnt work that way in real life though. This story like most, had no reason to happen if the OP wasn't an idiot, or an attention seeker, and just simply blocked the dude. It is so easily avoidable yet they never do it.

[@kyra9337]

Ngl, I don't like OP in this story. The dude was an obvious creep for sure but she had mulitple times to firmly say "no" to him and say she was married. Instead she led the dude on and let him get this clingy to her when she could had rejected him from the very beginning. Also I half-disagree with what she said about dude not taking rejections well at all or refusing to take no for an answer when she did not reject Redcliff at all anywhere in her story or even gave him an firm answer about how she feel. Ignoring him, ghosting him or saying "I think about it" are not firm answers at all and instead putting someone in an confusion about how they are supposed to take your action Not everyone are smart enough to understand social ques. Espically if you are dealing with someone that has mental illness. And the fact she literally went on dates with him in the beginning. Like bruh. What you expect? if we have to talked about gender issues when it comes to proposals, then I have to say that I personally dislike women who cannot give an firm answer to an confession and instead lead an obvious lonely dude on that they don't like for the fun and giggles. Nobody deserved to be treated that way and mocked for their feelings. OP should had rejected him the first time he got creepy. And most dudes do prefer getting an direct answer/rejections. Yes there are some that don't take no for an answer and are horrible. But there are dudes who appreciate an woman that can give an clear respond and will respect their answer. No dude wants to play games with their feelings on the line. So bringing up this topic of "this is why men can't rejection well" is very self-serving and ego boosting there when you didn't do an actual rejection to Redcliff. Felt like I was reading an sexist reddit post. OP should had reject RedCliff from the very beginning. And if he had kept advancing on her afterwards, then you reject him again and blackist/block him. Report to GM if he gets worse.

[@4SkippyRoo]

Sever lack of self awareness in OP. Admitted more than once she participated "just to see," but dude is the bad guy for being led on by her behavior? oookay

[@ndjaelia]

This.

[@stephenhuang3497]

My problem with this is actually the beginning. While understandably once logged out, most have a life beyond FF, I think it's rather inconsiderate to treat everyone else who is in the virtual space as simply the the avatar they play as. There's a real person behind the character, and by default who we are digitally is an extension of ourselves, if not flat out a reflection. Should OP be looking to do RP and play up a certain caricature, I believe then there should be communication about this and there being consent from the other party involved, so they know who they're dealing with isn't who the person is actually portraying themselves to be. Heck, put up the RP tag even, I believe it's only fair, cause imo RPing is meant to be a a shared activity, not a replacement of the person.

[@purple_goldfish3811]

I've seen this type of behaviour before. I've lived with one. OP is doing social experiments on Redford and conveniently stringing him along, milking all the cringe. Redford did nothing a creep would. No stalking, no harassing. It's just a typical behaviour of a socially awkward guy. A firm NO would have suffice in this case, it's really not that hard even for girls. Listening to the story I have a feeling that OP never actually said a clear no. As a female myself I honestly find OP disgusting. There is no drama here besides OP outing herself. She sounded like she just wanted a toy who she can freely degrade.

[@kyra9337]

Yeah and her bringing up the whole "this is why men are terrible at handling rejections" was an big ass red flag for me that OP was feeding her own ego with this story because that just sounds very sexist to bring up when she is not even in that type of situation where she handling an creepy dude who can't take no for an answer. She didn't even properly reject him and instead led the dude on. Like this story just feels like I'm reading about an narcissist person trying to explain themselves how they are not the bad guys here for how they act. Redcliff could had been an person who was not mentally well in the head and should had been told no from the getgo. Not trying to use mental illness as an excuse for his actions btw, but stringing person along like that feels gross to me when the person was probably not socially adept.

[@purple_goldfish3811]

@@kyra9337 She really is a narcissist trying to justify her actions and thankfully failed to get public support here. Saying, and i quote "not available to be anyone's actual girlfriend due to my relationship status outside of the game" is as VAGUE as one can get. It is very different than saying "dude i'm married and monogamous". It's just a gross excuse for OP to claim she did say no and it will lead any poor soul with either health issues or socially inexperienced astray.

[@maggie6305]

She never mentioned that she's married either. Just another narcissist indulging in the attention from simps.

[@typemoon7748]

So OP saying things like "I RP my character flirty but my character is separate from me" is fine for us when she explains it, but I could totally see Redford misunderstanding this. It sounds like she led him on a bit, at least at the beginning...

[@maybayV2]

And this is how we get incels. Dont lead people on like this. Just be straight with them. Jesus, man.

[@fitosh]

The OP just kept leading the poor guy along. Just keeping him right there on the leash so that she can enjoy all the attention she is getting and she can laugh at him with her friends. But somehow the catboy is the bad actor here? And they are so oblivious that they out themselves like this

[@pelisinho]

This!

[@LinkIsMine]

It confuses me when people say "She would've been called stuck-up if she blocked the guy sooner" ...Like what? Please make it make sense. lol I'm 32 (almost 33) and I've NEVER had an issue with blocking someone who is clearly being toxic towards me or bullying / harassing me the moment it happens, and not once have I been called stuck-up for it. It's called being an adult and shutting something down when you see that something is clearly not right and not doing so because you're afraid you'll be called stuck-up is such an immature sounding excuse. (idk how old OP is but I assume in their 20s at the very least due to them being married irl) I might have felt differently about OP if they didn't confess that her and her husband love hearing the drama that Red brings and sharing screenshots to her friends to make fun of how cringe the guy was being, so that might have been an accidental overshare on her part that makes her look bad imo. The whole story gave me weird vibes about the OP. However, despite all of that, I still think Red is also clearly in the wrong, even more in the wrong than the OP. Nobody should ever push boundaries like that, as soon as someone tells you they are taken that doesn't mean keep pursuing them. Both Red and OP need to do better. Hopefully the new blocking system will avoid scenarios like this from happening in the future and that OP learns to utilize the block button better to prevent this from happening again, (because there will always be weirdos on the internet) and hopefully Red learns to respect boundaries better and I hope he's not still out there doing it to this day.

[@antinutjobs]

Yea...quite often there are drama enablers love to toss word salads assisting psycho stalkers. Some of these enablers claiming it's passive-aggressive behavior for blocking people and expects a magical mutual communication out of their fairy dusty arse that stalkers and victims simply "misunderstood " each other as long as they talk it out 😂

[@holy9781]

Storys like this show why the new block system will be amazing.i had the same experience and I feel like I could know Redford but I guess alot of people are like Redford

[@inplane9970]

This. People keep preaching about the benefits of the friend system and blocking, but it's easily used to stalk unsuspecting victims.

[@crodo123]

I love how these OPs present themselves in the most positive light possible telling only their side of the story and still manage to come across as creepy losers

[@DefinitelyNotAMymmik]

Why keep seeing him after the fourth wall break if you weren’t looking for that? Both in the wrong and people that lead others on just “to see where it leads” are just as cringe as the dude was imo

[@TheMilli]

How did she "lead him on"? She clearly stated multiple times that she was not interested in anything outside of the game. How is clearly saying no in any way leading someone on?

[@petree]

Dude was cringe and she was farming him. Even if she didn't mean to she could have just did im married, blocked him and went on her way Ya that dude takes a no challenge. And it isn't that simple but this shit was strung along so much longer than it shoulda been. This was such a farm on Incel cringe lol

[@fuzzwobble]

The best part was how she admitted she was leading him on to farm him for cringe, then acted confused when the guy was led on. What a POS.

[@cactoman]

Why not simply freaking block the dude and be done?

[@ShadowDancer_]

The need for attention.

[@cactoman]

@@ShadowDancer_ That is soooo true friend!

[@thejinks-lx4qf]

She liked it she was ever going to block him

[@battybash]

So the OP's cautious attitude--keeping in contact, meeting up with Redford regardless of his creepy shit--makes sense in the rp community. If the OP has been around long enough (especially on Cyrstal) then they'll likely know about the toxic roleplayers that can and do go on disgusting smear campaigns against anyone who pisses them off. Until the blacklist system is updated, it's basically useless. But I was witness to recent events where these toxic roleplayers were accusing other players of disgusting OOC activities in /shout. They made it their mission to destroy their target's reputation and admitted to this in public. And the sleight against them was nothing--their target ignored them, or denied them rp. It takes very little.

[@battybash]

I will say there is a vibe of OP leading Redford on, but they also said they believed their relationship status had been made known from the beginning. I wouldn't have handled this drama the way they did, but Redford's actions after being told a relationship was impossible was entirely on them. OP wanted to be friends and Redford was not only ignoring their wishes, but happily blending IC and OOC, which is a big no-no.

[@BadaBadger]

Taking my friends to the Wellspring of Regret and forming our own memories ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@MugiwaraACNH]

I understand people have different boundaries when it comes to their relationships. What is okay, what is not, etc. That being said, I don't think engaging in roleplay activities that are romantic or sexual in nature is wise, especially if you're married. I feel it leads to many avenues of mistrust and eventually cheating which brings a whole other set of troubles and drama. This game seems to have an issue with bored married folks getting themselves into these situations and then acting surprised about it when shit hits the fan.

[@IzzetNilson]

If you're in a really, REALLY dedicated relationship then yes it can work. If "the cat person on screen makes me feel the happy in this exact moment" is enough to sever a relationship, then usually there's a lot more stuff going down behind the screen. Sort of a person to person ordeal, really.

[@SemekiIzuio]

I mean its literally porn and porn addiction is seen as cheating to some. Things is people can't differentiate between just being role playing, a service to taking it seriously they become delulu.

[@MugiwaraACNH]

​@IzzetNilson I understand what you're saying but I disagree. If the relationship is as 'dedicated' as you say, why the need to engage in sexual/romantic roleplay with someone that /isn't/ your partner? I personally couldn't do that to the person I love and think it still invites a very messy trail of drama, regardless of how 'dedicated' the relationship supposedly is.

[@thecthuloser876]

@@MugiwaraACNH To play the devil's advocate... Romantic/sexual role-play is the exploration of how a character interacts with those things and has nothing to do with me. In real life, I'm a demiromantic ace. My characters rarely are. I like to explore things, in character, that don't make sense to me as a normal person. It's a writing exercise. *Shrugs.*

[@MugiwaraACNH]

@thecthuloser876 Regardless of what your real life orientation may be, if your interactions in a game are seen as a boundary for a real life partner, it may be unwise to engage in such roleplay genres. Like I said in my original post, people have different boundaries when it comes to relationships and that's their business. Personally, a partner of mine engaging in such things would be a boundary for me. I'm gray ace and homoromantic but still have certain boundaries I would wish my partner to respect. The main issue is people acting surprised when they do engage in these situations and things go south. While you may see it as something harmless, you can't control other people's actions online and how they perceive situations. For you, it's just some harmless exploration of a character but the person on the other side of the screen thinks 'wow this person is flirting with me, maybe they like me'. Things can get messy very easily and I've witnessed it one too many times. I'm not just speaking out of my ass here. It's wise to be cautious about our interactions, and we should take into consideration how certain things might affect not only you as the roleplayer but your partner as well.

[@airynod]

I don't think saying no is a simple solution, but it is a clear declaration of your lack of interest socially, logically, and even legally. I would report him to GM harassment and blacklist him.

[@based_windwalker]

I took a pretty long xiv break after playing like 4 years straight, and ive realized my biggest issue with this game is not being able to openly call the community degenerate freaks

[@AngelusGaston]

Why string him along like that if you didn't want anything more. OP was enjoying all the attention she got but when it started to get creepy is when she finally said enough if he hadn't got cringe I don't think she would have stopped at all. Also she says about RPing but this is why you never do this type of RP even if it is from your characters perspective you are always going to be stringing someone along who is going to potentially get feelings for you and who knows if your going to end up liking them more despite being married. It's to risky on both ends. It's creepy how the OP manipulated them as well with keep going instead of blocking them the first time they made a move.

[@talonmage40k]

Her first mistake was answering in OOC question with an OOC answer.

[@thursdayangelgummybear1513]

Narcissists just wanted attention but I'm not telling which one🍻

[@LadyWiezel]

Everyone in this story makes me cringe tbh not just Redford.

[@ShandoCalrisian]

My brain rot immediately thought "You can't get tells while in Frontline" 😅

[@Binguza]

why is it that most of the stories you end up reading make the OP look more like the bad guy then the actual person their trying to make look like the bad guy XD brother by the 3rd time you should just cut it off that's that but OP led them on and when it no longer suited them threw the person under the bus.

[@philipmcrae3475]

Redford is so much like seymore its crazy lmao!!! 😂😂😅 Ps. Seymore is a villian from Final Fantasy X in case anybody doesn't know

[@bransonchic678]

Yay! I love listening to this while waiting for my physiology class! Lol i love the thumbail tidus and yuna!

[@LimeFaceX]

This was just as funny hearing it for the second time 😂😂

[@abethaproduct1738]

This whole thing read to me like “I’m married to a simp, so me leading a guy on is fine hehe”

[@iriebuddha]

Heaviest story I've heard! Super cool filling up the amphitheater too

[@HezrouDhiaga]

The problems would of gone away if she had just said "I'm married" and end it there.

[@csrjjsmp]

You must be new here😂

[@CTN404]

To some people, that doesn’t mean anything.

[@starzies]

You sweet summer child...that won't stop most creeps. But OP could have definitely blocked him.

[@inplane9970]

@@starzies If only blocking people hid your character from the ones you've blocked in the overworld. Even if you do block someone, they can keep stalking you. Even worse you've accepted their friend request. The only way you can wipe your name off their friends list is if they decide to unfriend you themselves.

[@josephkim9974]

Bold of you to assume people stop .

[@Lavaheadaddy]

she couldve have easily blocked him after him not getting it after the third or fourth or fifth time he kept ignoring her boundary or clear statement of im not gonna be more than this. like why didnt u block him already??

[@BlackNinja2630]

OP is 100% weong for this. In the start, he said he was looking for a girl for an end goal. OP is wrong for even continuing this. In hindsight, you played ignorance and it bred madness.

[@SimplyMartinez89]

When you started saying about the favorite spots bit all I could hear playing in the background was "A Whole New World" from Aladdin playing 😂😂😂😂

[@Brian-fh8pq]

And this is why we're getting the blacklist update in 7.0

[@nonenoninomae]

26:20 nonononono, excuuuuse me but lot of girls use the "I make myself difficult to get". The thing is: normally when they do like that is in a playful way. Edit: 26:40 okay, so... Why don't you just spill the truth??? Like: "I don't wanna engage you and you're acting like a creep. Leave me alone or I'll block you." It's as simple as that.

[@khairi26]

20:57 got a mental image of husbando and friends all on the same mount just peaking out from behind some trees. While they watch in real time the unfolding soap opera.

[@Moecinnako]

The thumbnail is pretty much the story😂❤

[@yalo3162]

Yeah the dude is a problem, but listening to this, I’m like why are you going to special spots, not rejecting a kiss when it happens, and not explaining things early on? It obviously is giving off romantic impressions. A normal guy might still feel embarrassed and bad about it if you let it drag on that long. I get you wanna see what funny story comes from the clingy weirdo, but you’re kinda encouraging it. And if you wanna RP, do that, but ofc a lot of people see their character as just another version of themselves. Maybe just use an RP tag or something to indicate you’re roleplaying a character. Again, Red is still a problem, because he wouldn’t let go when he had everything explained to him, and he’s the kinda guy that you give him an inch, he takes a mile, but you gave him a mile, so he took the whole highway. I just see this as a both at fault, mostly him.

[@yalo3162]

Crazy thought just occurred, but I wanna hear Red’s side of the story. I feel like some things might be left out.

[@Sayheyyyjay]

Oh man this is uploaded already?!? pathra is GRINDING !

[@ndjaelia]

Girl lmaoo you gotta tell people you are happily married lol

[@TheSoulLinked]

Why don't people just block those players who cause them grief?

[@DukeKorcassen]

Man, this is just as much on her as it is on the dude not getting a hint. How could she be this catastrophic at picking open ended "endings".

[@fries1492]

im trying see them screenshots LOL

[@pbjustin]

I've been playing since lunch and I've never had a drama story. Thank God.

[@spetsu1]

Man, I need to join the RP scene, I never find drama. Even in my static, there's little to no drama, just people getting called out for being late or missing scheduled days.

[@nauscakes1868]

If she's married, why didn't she just bond with her husband? I feel like a lot of these stories are just greedy selfish people trying to play the field instead of just staying happy with what they have. If this had happened to my wife, she would have straight up told the dude she's married and moved on. At worst, block him or have him tell him "man to man" that this is a bad path to go down, and there's other fish in the sea. I can sympathize with a man who's down bad. And I've offered to be a wing person many times. Like I'm not about bullying someone into submission. But I'm also crystal clear with my communication.

[@KPSoftwind]

And this is why I can’t stand simps/incels/etc

[@MrProg-ey3tl]

35:59 as a guy, I can say that guys assume girls like them just by being nice, because it's so out of the ordinary for someone to be randomly nice to a guy. If someone is all of a sudden nice to a guy, it's so unusual that I think it's normal for them to think that maybe there's some romantic interest there. But guys do need to learn that this isn't always the case.

[@biggshoverwelder3690]

33:00 Guys still try after being told no because A alot of women like playing hard to get and like to turn down guys only to ask why we arent still pursuing them when we give up interest. And B there are alot of love stories in both history and in culture of men overcoming a womans rejection and becoming someone the girl ends up falling for or even chasing themselves. Not to mention it's written in biology for men to pursue women, if we didn't there'd be a hell of a lot less humans around, so honestly you can blame the individuals when it becomes stalking, but it's mostly biology.

[@maggie6305]

The OP could not be more obvious. She is obviously a narcissist and didn't mention that she was married because she loved the attention. Her husband took the L fr

[@HazelleMorrigan]

*gets popcorn* alright let's see what is happening in xiv verse

[@inplane9970]

Even though the husband getting involved is a bit much, its a much needed reality check with these types of people. Constantly going back to someone who wants nothing to do with you and claiming to love them is a huge leap in logic. They're not going to stop even with blocking.

[@AiroDusk]

Should've called him little Sun

[@DICEBOY22]

The cringe is strong with this one!

[@lividoverseer]

11:50 Write that down WRITE THAT DOWN

[@joylimma]

OMG! I love this setting where you're on a stage telling the story! By the way where is this, I think I haven't unlocked this map yet...;-;

[@pathra]

It’s in Gridania city! It’s one of the main starting cities

[@bajabalster]

I'm surprised she just didn't block him lol but good story!

[@markup6394]

35:30 --- This is an interesting take - my dad says the same, and for record: we are not Asian, just your typical big-nosed Europeans ;) Anyway, he likes to say, and I paraphrase: for the love of God, DONT tell others your honest opinion (unless close friends and/family, and even then), it'll always backfire. And... yeah, its kinda true. Sometime the best thing you can do is just turn around and go away. Hell, many of these drama stories could've been avoided if the many OPs and their friends/enemies had just walked away from the situation. ... So, yeah, Asian wisdom, aka common sense, is key :D

[@silviablackffxiv]

Blacklist them, it's easy really💀

[@Great.Gospel]

I also have never had to blacklist anyone. Granted I play the game with /busy on a lot as I don't even like responding to people complimenting my character.

[@SAIVSS]

Why is it hard for you to just say go away or I'll block you.. online?? I can see how women would have a hard time doing this in real life when you're 1 on 1 somewhere with no one around... because some men are so unstable they will kill you.. but online, you just block them... I never understood why some women in online games will always tell me "I keep getting this unwanted attention from this dude" and then NEVER TELL THEM or BLOCK THEM. HOW WILL THEY KNOW if you keep talking to them and giving them what they want and only THINKING you don't want it =__= In 2 decades of online gaming, I've never had this issue before.. because if you don't feel comfortable, you just tell them and they listen 9/10 times. The 1/10 times they don't respect you, you just block them and it's sooooo easy... this only makes me believe you like the attention but don't want to admit it... because it's just two clicks away... to make them go away forever..

[@biggshoverwelder3690]

36:26 Because most women cant/wont flirt, you don't initiate so men have to read your signs which often can simply be you being nice to us. Because shocker... most people arent nice/kind to men, we are seen as a werido at the best of times, and a creep at the worst of times.

[@RedVoteRedemption]

This game has the most drama

[@kichan]

I feel like this is just your standard Crystal experience. Like a rite of passage to attract a clinger when you definitely didn't mean to. I got one simply by complimenting his glam while I was running past him in Ul'dah. I've had a number of guys begging and pleading for my time and attention in tells, some even saying stuff like "I don't wait around" when I literally told them I was not interested. Part of the problem with these guys is that they don't SERIOUSLY want a girlfriend. They want a fantasy, hence why Redford did not care of OP was married IRL, just as long as when they were logged into the game, in their virtual world, she was his. That's all a lot of these people want. I've seen this same scenario happen to married people.

[@Xine051]

Been playing this game since original release in 2010, i have a grand total pf 15 names on my blacklist and every single one was thrown on it for spamming emotes in chat (excessively), being toxic, or just the dimmest bulbs in the bunch.

[@IdaliaMay]

The next story is a DOOZY. Can't wait for that to be posted.

[@Somefrickface]

“I’ll break things off with him for you, once and for all,” the boyfriend said, ten minutes before the end of the 37 minute video.

[@MikeE_wf]

kinda annoys me when taken people like to go out flirting and then get surprised when people get closer to them.

[@bbbqchknexe6425]

cat eye makeup looks so good on you

[@ImNerdy]

Omg this one had me DYING

[@AquaSkywalker]

Omg I laughed out loud at 12:00 😂😂😂

[@boonetolbert9539]

Imagine as I am mining away in the ends there is a cringe lord high above me looking down on me from his spring of tears... in my home server 😂

[@hijidltkr]

i'm far removed from ffxiv and this type of community in general but these videos make me concerned are the players actually ok? sincere question

[@CTN404]

This is too much 🤣

[@nomikkh]

whoof... I'm not as much into the RP scene anymore but I learned my lesson about responding to stranger tells while being a catgirl. one dude that I RP'd with a couple times and it got "frisky" would call me a slut because I said I wouldn't be exclusive with him but then also message me wanting ERP. at first I was bewildered and like "uh, you just called me a slut two hours ago" but quickly found the blacklist button to be my friend.

[@Meka-qq1tj]

Actually, No means "I'm getting charged with Sexual Assault for invading people boundaries" in the real world

[@Narlan1]

I've played ff14 for 10 yrs and my biggest drama is I always get kicked out of fcs for my personality

[@SuthanNagesu]

Ayeee I made it on the streaaamm XD

[@dr0pcandy]

Just reading the whole comments here makes me realize almost everyone here needs to go through what the husband had to go through in the story just to understand the whole issue lol

[@nyx86868]

Not even 10 min in and already see there both done wrong so there both not innocent. She gave in as much as he gave in. So if anyone at fault it's both lol. This is why I do not RP because I see so much issues and breakups because of it. I'm with someone I'm with someone. We dont share lol. Been together 5 years thanks to ffxiv and we can't be any happier . ❤just RP and in a relationship in rl with someone big no no. Always rp with your rl spouse not someone else . ❤

[@AngelArrovvs]

redford sounds like my ex-boyfriend who wouldn't take no for an answer when he tried to get back together with me

[@VegasRedStar]

Yo, girl, you gotta make boundaries clear straight from the start xD lol I only say this as someone who had to set clear boundaries with a regular RP partner who was super cringe. He SAID he wasn't into ERP, and wanted to create an in-depth story between our characters. He SAID he was married irl and had to worry about his family, so it would never happen. He complained about other RPers not being "serious" enough, that they were constantly late, or that they were just out to ERP... Guess what? This guy was SUCH a hypocrite XD lol He was ALWAYS late and would always try to get us to ERP. I hated it xD LIAR. I bet he didn't even have a family lol After a few sessions of trying to get him to focus on story and plot, I straight blocked him. I just can't handle that. Smh my head lol Make. Boundaries. Clear. Block people who can't respect that. Real talk : P

[@theresamcevoy6120]

To me, No means No and I will tell them I have a boyfriend if they do not listen.

[@RicardoSantos-oz3uj]

As it should. It stops wasting everyone's time in a dumb ego game that helps no one.

[@ArclightNoodle]

I don't think people understand that between the blacklist feature being pretty garbage and people do not take no for an answer. My ex boyfriend, even though I have him BLOCKED. Still sends me in game mails and WHISPERS and talks to me whenever he sees me. Like nothing happened! I literally told him that I hate him and will never speak with him again and that I want him to never speak with me again. He doesn't care. I just hope in 7.0 I don't have to deal with him when they change how blocking works.

[@Steve-YT383]

No is No That Catboy in thumbnail is😺😸😻😽😼

[@KhallStream]

I want to say she should’ve made a firm rejection rather than hints of indifference. Some people thrive in the dramatic chaos of will they won’t they scenarios like that and confuse hope with hopelessness lol But, I doubt that would’ve worked. If his behavior was what she said it was, guy had some serious awareness issues. The blacklist did not come fast enough 😂

[@Cfishies]

ff14 players try not to down bad challenge : Impossible

[@ChronicallyKiki]

Redford's downright delusional! WTF!?

[@playdead2564]

Ya she’s in the wrong here. I’m sorry but you want to flirt even fake flirt you need to be single. If you’re in a relationship I’m sorry but go home

[@freak3d]

Im tryna see pathra in the RP scene XD

[@DemonEyez3000]

Both OP and Red sounded annoying.

[@lyraspasar649]

Yk its amazing just HOW. MANY. PROBLEMS. could be solved by just hitting the black list.

[@DICEBOY22]

What a good IRL husband! 10/10 👍

[@ShadowDancer_]

32:37 😂