No Start in 24v Cummins Common Rail - How To Diagnose & Repair

[@gabewhisen3446]

I think I just shat myself, someone actually put a real no bullshit diagnostic procedure on KZbin

[@miked.r.6671]

Great video yeah! The only bullshit might been some rat chit I saw on the engine block. DEBOSS clearly knows his chit!

[@MrZmann14]

As a Cummins technician, I was told to always use the right tool for the job. But that injector line "home made" tool is ingenious compared to the block off tools I use

[@bryanttilson1040]

This Guy is 1000% genuine Free knowledge to The People that's GODLY!!! Thank You Brother!

[@angelawerner7696]

“Some things to check before you take it to the stealership” Thanks for the excellent advice! I’m going to file this for future reference.

[@gerardovaldez2088]

My friend you just saved me few hundred dollars, I did just want you saying and in my case it was the relief valve, I’ve disconnected the banjo on top of the relief valve and saw fuel coming out, so I ordered it and it runs great now, god bless you.

[@chadwilcox1077]

I wasn't able to "predict" the cylinder in question but I was able to figure out my issue faster than the 8 weeks the stealership was able to figure out my issue, thank you very much

[@charlescook3451]

Hey man, I just want to say thank you I used this video to diagnose my 5.9 common rail after I put injectors in I blocked off number six the truck tried to start. I would’ve never figured that out without you. Thank you.

[@sonogunis]

Great video. I have some mechanical ability to fix my 2005 cummins but diagnosing has to done systematically like you did it here. I feel more confident about having a clue for a no start.

[@gotthumbs2235]

Just did this procedure on my 2003 and it was Injector #1. I had replaced all the injectors, but couldn't get the truck started after that. Replaced all the fuel tubes and retorqued all the injectors and then fuel tubes still no go. Was getting to the point of calling in a Diesel shop to take a look at it but decided to buy the Injector cap and try to isolate each injector. Tried #2 first and then #1, She started right up.. Now it's just a matter of either trying a new fuel tube or just go ahead and replace the injector (it was one of the new ones). I'm thinking of both, just to be done with it, but will decide before next weekend. Thank you SOOOoooo much for your great common sense video..

[@chicomike5751]

"Thank you" " Thank you" "Thank you" Yesterday my 06 Ram Cummins truck was out in a field. It wouldn't start but had good crank. I was prepared to have it towed to a repair shop. I watched your video.BANG! I forgot that the FASS pump wasn't Cummins. Got to the truck with all my tools only to quickly, that the negative line from the FASS was not connected. About 30 seconds of cranking amd away we went. ZERO COST!! "THANK YOU" again

[@TutorialPanda]

Good Lord have mercy, 11:30 time and you completely diagnosed. You are a gentleman and a scholar sir!

[@Velkanis]

hey if the girl im dating knows that i smell like diesel instead of "fuel" or "gasoline" i think im on a good start

[@NaoPb]

Very true!

[@Velkanis]

if you didn't get the joke it would mean that if she is capable of pinpointing that i smell like diesel and not saying *fuel* as in general purpose or wrongly saying gasoline, its a good sign... hence the quotes

[@MicrophonicFool]

Marry That Woman!

[@bigchike350]

You must be fun at party's!

[@clocker1850]

Diesel is a fuel and gasoline is a fuel but gas is short for gasoline diesel don't run on gas they run on fuel Diesel fuel. No, diesel owners don't want someone to say gas when they mean diesel and people say fuel vs gas to differentiate diesel from gas Secondly, Diesel fuel is just saying this motor runs on diesel and its a fuel. Lastly, Diesel is not like that wimpy ass gas shit that stinks and burns like shit. Moreover, the point was that's the type of gal you wanna take home granted she can cook as well.

[@brettkernbach6120]

I really appreciate all of these videos, Rich. Your channel is an absolute wealth of knowledge, and I thank you kindly for taking all of the extra time required to explain all of this while actually performing all of the work. I love the DGHD stuff just the same, never owned a combine before but man the way Kevin and you went through it top to bottom had me glued to the screen. Keep up the amazing work, I get excited every time I get the notification that you have a new video!

[@ziptiesnbiasplies]

Nicely done rich!

[@galieric]

Miiinty

[@dieseldixie892]

Minty comment my dude

[@leoweber3629]

Hey snow Mexican! Nice to see your fukkin dumass here!

[@drwe57]

It's like my shit box but less rust and not a manual

[@davedavis2998]

dude my truck i have taken through every mech all said injecters ect u so rock 2 years given her either 1 watch this vid truck runs awsome simple easy instuctions u r awsome thank u so much for yer vidio

[@Joe-bm4wx]

Is this even English?

[@tommywilliamson2871]

Girl:"You smell like diesel" Guy: "yeah well it's low sulphur and only cost a dollar a liter..." 😌👍 yessss

[@brakedd]

I love that your catch pan is an old transmission pan. Awesome video. You're making me want to work on diesels for a living instead.

[@JessWoodjw]

Thank you!!! Changed head gasket and NO start! CP3 later and your injector test worked!! IF I'd done it 1st it would of saved a $1200 pump! Thank you! Thank you for sharing!!!

[@poophead393]

My pressure relief valve was bad . Thanks for the help !

[@Patchplumbing]

Russell zito what was it doing with the bad prv what symptoms?

[@billhaley3860]

I was recently on a trip out to west Texas in my third GEN 04 Dodge. The number four injector fuel line failed, presumably a stress or fatigue failure. This happened about 6 o’clock in the evening on a Friday night in the middle of nowhere. No start, low fuel. We attempted some lame remedies no avail. (I had no idea about the plug remedy, (did not have one anyway) and I will admit I had no idea of the extreme fuel pressure involved) There was no friend or acquaintance that we knew that could help us within a 3 Hour Drive. We ended up having to settle for a $600 tow and arriving at our destination at about midnight. We eventually obtained the injector line the next day, installed it, and it started right up. I ordered the plugs for my second GEN and third GEN to keep on board for the future. A commentor said that your homemade plug is much better than the store-bought plugs. Could that be true? And if so why?

[@powerwagon3731]

Great vid. First thing I did when I was having trouble starting my 04 was install a fuel pressure gauge which revealed low pressure about 3.5 k psi. I purchased caps and blocked off one line at a time and when I got to the bad injector fuel pressure shot up to 6k and started immediately.I replaced all injectors and it starts easily in all weather. Thanks!

[@poophead393]

Where did you get the caps?

[@dmanmoto]

What caps did you buy?

[@powerwagon3731]

@@dmanmoto I’ll let you know when I get back from vacation in about a week.

[@thegman4759]

​@Power Wagon where'd you get the caps it's been a year

[@powerwagon3731]

@@thegman4759 I’ll try and get back to you tomorrow, I’m away from home til then. My bad 😞!

[@apr9286]

I had the same issue with my 05, didnt want to start. I added some seafoam and it got it started. I think the previous owner didnt service and change fuel filter, found fine dirt particle in the fuel filter. Now i change that filter every oil change. Glad i found your channel. Thanks for upload.

[@GregoryJohnston77]

Rich you are the badest, coolest, down to earth guy ever man. You're f*cking smart too. From one mechanic to another you are someone i watch and always learn something new. I always tell my kids, their will always be someone who knows more then you do, and thank them for it, because if you listen to them youll know more too. Thanks man you are great...

[@mikeRadamz]

Hi Rich, great info. Thanks! To make that tool safer, flatten and fold over the end before welding it. Especially at that kind of pressure.

[@mikep5225]

awesome video, having this exact problem. Too bad I replaced the CP3 and lift pump and still have the same problem. Should have watched you first! (but my lift pump did need replacing).

[@pietrolamotta4493]

hey man, thanks to you for this video, I was able to find the problem with my ram, since by my own means, I checked the tank pump, and I even made a direct connection and the truck did not start Until I notice that I start only with ether starter, and searching find your video, so I started to cancel injectors, and just like your video, I start when I cancel the second one, so now I'm going to Take out the injector and take it to repair, thank you very much !!!

[@marlinnotfish]

Not sure if this is 100% true but it worked for me. I was told to use brake clean to try and start a diesel instead of starter fluid or "ether" because brake clean burns slower than ether and you run less of a risk of damaging the rings or piston.

[@5148353229]

Great vid! I would also recommend replacing the high pressure fuel connector going to the injector to make sure you don't get any fuel leaks at the mating surface of the injector and fuel connector.

[@wayneg3127]

I wish I could have seen this video about 12 or 13 years ago. 03 2500 with 290k miles with a can of ether under the front seat, hee hee! I just stumbled across your channel today and I've enjoyed watching your vids.

[@D3thM3tal]

Haha - it's low sulfur and only a dollar a liter. That's great - thanks for showing this, I love these counter intuitive repairs.

[@jdmeaux]

Diesel- a MAN's cologne.

[@bryanmartinez6600]

Hell no that's Napalm

[@thetrainshop]

MAN... Diesel. Hahaha

[@MySuperky]

I don't even own a diesel.... that how interested I am

[@thehappytexan]

Just eliminate the risk factor, you can buy the fuel rail caps at any cummins dealer for t/s injector issues. I bought one for the isx for like $40 U.S.

[@trustbro6414]

Just do something else like stfu

[@dylanpaton6994]

Thank you I just baught an 2003 and had a ton of problems. So I am going to try this

[@truckstractorswildlifeguns6648]

Got one to fix for a customer. Friend . And i knew you were the guy to Ask. Thank you

[@gotthumbs2235]

This is really helpful. I had a leaky injector and opted to replace all 6 at the same time, now the truck won't start. Going to try your checks and hopefully I can get her started using your approach. Will report back on results.

[@raymondpoteet8920]

Please, let us all know what you found wrong

[@gotthumbs2235]

@@raymondpoteet8920 It turns out Injector #1 was bad, even though they were all brand new injectors. In hindsight, think I may have created the issue by over torqueing the injectors solenoid nuts during the initial install. They should only get torqued to 14 in lbs. and I didn't have a proper torque wrench at the time. Expensive lesson learned, but I'm glad I was able to do the work myself and have a better knowledge on the system/process with the help of this trouble-shooting video. Planning on keeping the truck for decades. No DEF and EGR system to muck it up. Hope this helps and sorry for the late late update.

[@raymondpoteet8920]

@@gotthumbs2235 Thanks for your reply. What type of injectors did you install, and most importantly, are you happy with them?

[@gotthumbs2235]

@@raymondpoteet8920 Sorry for the late response, I purchased the set of new stock injectors from DAP. They were not remanufactured. The one replacement injector was a reman and was purchased from Industrial Injection. I've been meaning to get a new solenoid for the one that was bad. The trucks been going strong since then. I recently installed a Fluidampr harmonic balancer on the crank and its made a noticeable difference on reducing engine vibration through the power band and improved the engine response. Spins up faster than it did with the OEM dampener.

[@PAFarms]

Completely agree on the lift pumps. My vp was ruined because of the lift pump. I bypassed it and put the fass pump on.

[@mechanickb4350]

I am so building one of those tools next time I change an injector. Nice video! Thanks.

[@IronMan-ml5yi]

Your the best. I love your commentary.

[@frankmjr6571]

Got to love home made diagnostic tools. Well done video

[@helderborjas1759]

Really knowledgeable person thank you very much for this video

[@franciscohunter4422]

thank you brother for teaching us your wisdom I have 06 dodge 3500 but I don’t have power for intake heather and I replace the wires and the relay please can you help me 🙏

[@brianlau8316]

AWESOME !!!!! lol wish I had this good of a video back when I replaced my CP3 now (cp3K) LIFTED PUMP now (FASS 150) AND HAD MY STICKS checked out... only replaced 2.

[@timusa5098]

Epic.. thank you. Problem solved...Really amazing.👍

[@JackofHaulTrades]

What was it for you?

[@wheeler688]

Thank you very much for this video I think this is the problem with my truck. Doing the exact same thing, Only starts off a shot of either

[@woodey028]

Great vid! Girls like a good injector!

[@Sevalecan]

Cool shit, I learned something.... I've never owned a common-rail diesel.. Just got a couple 6.2 Suburbans and my '03 Jetta TDI.

[@unclesamuk8687]

Great Video! always wanted to do some DIY work on a diesel engine.

[@joselacera8716]

thank you for this video I have this problems with my truck I'm not a mechanic bu t I'm going to try it because no one can start my truck I wish this could help me to find the problem. It turnes but it won't start with a little bit of either it start thank you again

[@baylonjones3771]

Awesome video rich. Love when you make vids like this

[@markrich3271]

Rich , tell the new owner add a bottle of two oil with every fill up. It helps tremendously with wear on the newer common rail setups . I personally if it were mine would ppump or ve swap and be done with it for reliability.

[@markrich3271]

What company's make complete common rail no hassle fuel systems for the 24v? The reason the common rail systems go out are not because of the lift pump or lack of supply of fuel but the low sulfur fuel and lack of lubrication . This why people swap VE pumps for reliability and p7100 for power. I had no problem finding a VE pump or any of the parts there all right there easily accessible. There all stock items for the most part . I didnt write just oil . I forgot the word stroke obviously.

[@steve17599]

Thanks for the info! Hope i can figure out my fuel pressure issues now!

[@grandjourney5823]

I’ve got a little bit of blow by. Just saw it today. Not loosing power and no check engine light. Just saw the smoke today when I took off my oil cap. How else can I check or what can I do?

[@ricdiamondhandsflair7208]

Glad I found your channel. Great job. Love the content.

[@raymondcook07]

Where do you get your injectors? Who has the best from your experience? I have a 2005 and im going to just replace all of them. Love you content and you accent. Thanks.

[@bryanallen5977]

hey i have a similar problem with my 7.3 idi. no start but a shot of ether (and a charged battery) it starts glad i watched this. I do have a question though how do you know if an injection pump is going? i need injectors but im not sure about the injection pump.

[@vasiliydron]

7.3 idi I have had the same problem you need to change you return line injector caps or it's the water in fuel sensor bleeding back your fuel and you get a air pack that will cause that problem.

[@RobertSmith-le8wp]

Good tips. I suppose the 12v are simpler

[@devonpiper5342]

You can also just open up the valve cover and and undo the electrical wires to both top posts of the injector itself and if it starts and runs good then that’s your injector.

[@nellyfarnsworth7381]

3:48 Friday night after 3 beers 🍺.

[@michaelbrewer1474]

So if one injector goes bad it won't start at all?? Can you make a video on how to install a fuel pressure gauge on an 05. Thx

[@Wrenchlife604]

2:30 " I HEAR IT" scared the dog shit outta me

[@synocate5602]

can i have permission to use this as my ringtone?

[@nelsonrivas9880]

I need to change my injectors on my 05 5.9 what store would you suggest?

[@scotthill4755]

Love the video much help to me I'm a new cummins owner so I was just wondering blocking off that line wouldn't that hurt the cylender because of lubrication please forgive me if it sounds like a stupid question but I was raised that there isn't any stupid questions it's all about learning thanks again

[@jdillon8360]

nope it won't hurt anything. lubrication is internal via oil.

[@muestraecu6442]

Sos el papa de los pollitos...se agradece man. Excelente video

[@carloswhite2408]

I love all your videos. I just can get enough. Nice job bro...

[@jamessweeten6926]

"Steelership" ain't that the truth

[@thejunkshop5022]

Canadians are awesome especially this one great vids

[@AJbartonworkshop]

Great video Rich, I just bought a block off cap, and it ended up being cylinder 2 as well... My question is I'm just going to order one injector where do you recommend I order one from?

[@adamshine5]

ive been told by several mechanics never to use ether...also heard from some that its fine...what do you think?

[@bradleylong3466]

Can't believe I never heard someone call them a stealership. Pretty good

[@sugargoldy]

Good video thank you I got the same truck so I might need that fix someday. And by the way I enjoy all of your videos you're a very smart man and you have taught me alot thanks again

[@garyrobinson5719]

So ive been laid off from work now all week thanks to the covid -19 n these videos have been getting me through it ... But the fuel pumps really deliver that much pressure that they would cut right into you ??? I know some of them are like 20 thousand psi but i never thought of it that way

[@bosniamenrepairmen5810]

You can put bearing ball below the pipe to chek injector that is more simple but grat video about common rail

[@MrSuper144]

Great tip better than messing around with leak off tester .

[@dennisdecosta4480]

Keep it going Rich just love da info👍🏽🍺

[@elpertbrown4443]

i just complete my cummins classes older cummins with the common rail fuel system work on 1600bar the newer more up 2 date models are working on 1800bar that is for the midrange engines

[@mikechiodetti6737]

Quick checks to locate problem........I like it!

[@joedirt5850]

My 99 installed a fass no problems since when the lift pump was going bad it would only start with either eventually the injection pump went bad.

[@terrellscaife2411]

For this particular issue will It throw a bad injector Code or any other type of codes will the truck have a check engine light 💡

[@billthompson9595]

excellent tutorial. good luck with your date!

[@shak0009]

thanks for the video, my truck has the same symptoms but with the glow plug light staying on, does that mean I can eliminate the steps you did and focus on the grit heater and glow plugs?

[@MrForceStorms]

What engine do you have?

[@Yukonjackman1]

How about a video on a 2001 or 2000 or a 2002 2nd gen

[@kevinp5325]

What kind of material are you stuffing into the openings to prevent dirt and dust from getting into the engine?

[@beewald3107]

You should do a video about p pumping a 24 valve

[@markwood2389]

OK I have a 24 valve vp truck as you know it new..I just changed the filter about a day ago..the original owner changed it about ever year..It had been replaced a few months before i got it last year..Its aways started on the first bump..we had some -5 degree days last winter and thats nothing to Ya'll way up there..but my question is im on a buget like you..probally more so..Lol..so would you put a expensive lift pump like fass/bully dog..but like also its not ever been tuned..I do listen..& I remember what you said about tuned trucks..Have a blessed day Rich & Family #teamdebossgarage100%

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

The fass/bully dogs are expensive but will save the VP in the long run. Look at it this way. A lift pump will cost upwards of $200. If it goes, it will take out a $2400 VP. If you replace the lift pump now, which you will have to do regardless, it is $600 of insurance.

[@DerekGraham777]

I knew someone who got high pressure hydraulic oil shot into his arm through a pin hole in his gloves. Had to cut most of the muscle out of his arm haven't heard anything back from him in a few years dont know if they were able to save his arm

[@yoelandemeskel6474]

I have same question as someone ask. Why do you pick 2nd Injector?

[@rswick7]

What if you’re not getting power to lift pump? Bad ground? To my knowledge the relay is in the ecm. Maybe cleanup all grounds and plug connections? Worst case scenario get a new ecm/reflash it or run a wire from another power 12v power source like the windows or ignition preferably?

[@sturmtiger305mm]

Is it worth rebuilding the airbox from a standard paperfilter to a oilfilter like f.ex your previous tractor video on a regular diesel truck?

[@kwslife116]

If you took the line off the pump, how is there pressure coming out of the line where you put the hose? Or did you put the hose on the pump and didn't show that part?

[@barrettschlieker3558]

If you here it coming out of the fuel cap does that mean you have a intake life pump or a block mounted lift pump

[@jackhawez10]

These are my favorite vids of yours

[@crabshack122]

Excellent video! Great explanation. Thank you

[@mylesswann530]

When you break the fuel delivery to the injector can the injector with out fuel still fire "blanks"? If it's still on the rocker box circuit? I was watching another block off example and they had just disconnected a wire from the injector selonoid to test. Which got me thinking if you have a potential for a stuck open or leaking injector cap the rail, and if your testing them to cap and disconnect the selonoid assuming the empty injector is still getting a firing signal. Or just cap the rail and disconnect the injector all together for each cylinder test.

[@BigFrogs4x4]

My problem is it starts good when the engine is cold. But once the engine is hot it won't start. Small spray of starter fluid it starts right up. Has 6 new injectors because it had a bad misfire. Now misfire is gone and idles great. Just not starting when hot.

[@mike2191958]

When you know you have fuel pressure and injectors working correctly when all else fails you have a bad valve low compression is your trouble

[@mike2191958]

Once you have checked all fuel related problems and still no start with a unusual sound like low compression stop where your at pull the head I had this problem and found a dropped valve seat it barely touched the piston with no real damage other than replacing the valve and seat .I got lucky you might not if you keep cranking on it

[@outdoorswithlarryrobin]

very informative

[@chriscosta3139]

This guy kicks ass

[@jacksmith3189]

Here we go I enjoy your videos