No5 MkI Enfield "Jungle Carbine"

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The No.5 MkI Enfield, commonly called the "jungle carbine" is nearly the shortest-lived rifle in British military service. Introduced in 1944, they were declared obsolete in 1947 as the result of insoluble accuracy problems. The guns were originally developed from regular No4 Enfield rifles with the goal of producing a shorter and lighter variant for paratroops. This was done by shortening the barrel, adding a flash hider, and making lightening cuts in several places on the barrel and receiver (which were the cause of the problems that doomed the gun).
Not all No.5 rifles produced developed problems, and they were certainly handier than the regular Enfield rifles. They are noted for kicking harder, of course, and this is not really helped by the narrow rubber buttpad they came with (most of which are nice and hard today).
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[@overopensights]

I carried the No 5 rifle in Malaya, prior to volunteering to take the Bren. The number 5 had a kick like a mule, and the rubber butt did nothing to alleviate it. Previous to being issued with the No 5, I used the number 4 rifle in Europe, I have to say I was a very good shot with it and got the recruits 'Best Shot' award, which someone duly stole. Regarding zeroing and marksmanship, when the distance between the back sight and the foresight on a weapon are quite near together, you do have to work harder for perfection. The number five was not used for long ranges, in the jungle your targets were 10 to 20 yards away or you just fired at the general area that threatened you. Our training with this weapon was mostly small jungle constructed rifle ranges where we fired very quick aimed shots, much of the training was to fire quick shots from the waist, and we did become very good at it. sufficient to say that we won the only communist war that was ever won, and with the No 5, no matter how much we disliked it. I have one fixed under my mantle shelf at home, just for 'old times sake' I struggled hard to get a proper British made rifle, a proper Enflield, I felt it not right to have a foreign one.

[@davogeorge4525]

I'm taking it your a brit? I don't think the Aussies ever got the mk5 or mk4, our blokes persisted right through ww2 and a bit beyond with the old mk3 SMLE

[@overopensights]

David George: Greetings, that surprises me, I often saw them with the Owen Gun in Malaya also the Bren, but I never remember seeing them carry SMLI's Perhaps someone on here will tell us?

[@davogeorge4525]

I'm not sure what Aussies had in Malaya, but in ww2 they never really got anything but the old SMLE as far as rifles go, Remember the 1000 chocos who were sent up the kakoda track and told to stop 10,000 battle hardened japanese troops? they weren't really given anything but brens and SMLEs, no motors, heavy machine guns or anything

[@josharthurs5150]

Besides recoil, what did soldiers think of the no.5 in general when serving in Malaya? And thanks for your service!

[@overopensights]

The number 5 was fine and we liked its light weight and hitting power. True to say that with this weapon British 18 and 19 year old National Servicemen won the only communist war that was ever won. We were young and under good leaders, discipline was rigged, comradeship was top notch, I think back and feel that our Jungle skills and drills were real first class tactics. The rifle was fine but only part of the act when we consider; mortars, artillery and area Bombing, however our biggest asset was stealth. Thanks for your interest.

[@PorchPotatoMike]

I would happy to be 70 years old and rock hard...

[@ArmonMitchell]

You knucklehead stop disturbing the class!!!

[@scottpierce3039]

Yup

[@SteveRawcliffe]

Thanks for this. Learned to shoot on a No. 4 as a 13-year-old cadet on Hythe Ranges in England. Haven't touched one since 1978, and the sound of that bolt action took me back 50 years. Could almost smell the burnt propellant!

[@ryanparker7258]

Just love it when you show good old British craftsmanship at it’s best, everything in those day’s was made to last unlike today 🥲. Always a very interesting subject, I tip my hat to you Ian, from a British Army veteran.

[@13exxonp]

The way you cycle rounds is a thing of beauty

[@bungmanagforty7959]

Lefty Ian scoffs at right handed bolt actions! Look at him go!

[@hunterrichie2764]

Like in Saving Private Ryan.

[@kennysandhoj]

+Hunter Richie No it's not like in Private Ryan because Ian operates the bolt with his right hand. In Ryan the sniper operates the bolt with his left hand and he gotta reach over the rifle and it looks really awkward. ^ I'm a lefty and when i shoot righty rifles i shoot them the way Ian does in this video.

[@bungmanagforty7959]

I operate the bolt with my left hand. For most rifles it's not awkward at all. My MAS 36 is a pain to operate that way though..

[@patrickholt2270]

It loses the benefit of the Lee bolt, because he's moving the rifle out of aim while he works the bolt.

[@mrnobody1958]

@@kennysandhoj i wish i could but im left eye dominant so i can't hit with my right.

[@TELEFUNKENU47458]

My father in law served on New Guinea in WW2. The Enfield jungle carbine was the best rifle available in his opinion. And his weapon of choice. He preferred it over the 03 and the occasional M1. He said it would reach out much farther than one might imagine, and the sights were much better than the others he had available. Grampy loved that rifle.

[@Lukebourne99]

My grandfather (RIP) used one during WW2, In the AIF. Years later he got a hold of an original mk5 in shocking condition. He fully restored it to original specs. Was a dream to shoot. And did it give a kick.

[@davidgellatly1975]

Although declared obsolete in 1947, the # 5 was the general issue rifle for both the British Army and Malayan Police during the 1948-60 Emergency in Malaya, replacing the # 4 Enfield which was the original issue for most battalions serving in Malaya. It was superseded, to a limited extent, by the Owen submachine gun which became the preferred infantry weapon, when available.

[@pierremainstone-mitchell8290]

Thank you very much Ian. I'm ex Australian Army and in my (much) younger days I fired the No.4 when I was in school cadets (I even owned one briefly in the early 70s) but I never got my hands on a No.5. I'd read about the wandering zero before but I'd never come across a detailed explanation like yours of why the No.5 had this problem! Well done!

[@petermoeller5901]

The Enfields are classics, rather than forgotten weapons. Excellent video!

[@alex9996131]

*New weapon in battlefield* KZbin: Hey dude here’s the real one

[@albinospino3089]

69 likes looks good to me.

[@gabefreitas8840]

lol JackFrags out here supporting other youtubers

[@Jumptohistory]

So that's why this showed up in my recommended

[@jayray7230]

bought all the BF games until 5. Waiting for EA to make another game.

[@phyconautwaterworld198]

A trip dawn memory lane. My father gave me one of these for my 12th birthday. I mounted a Weaver 4X scope on it and it was my hunting rifle during the 1960s ... especially for deer in the mountains of southern British Columbia. It was the perfect rifle for that use and those times were some of the best in my life. I ended up in Southeast Asia after 1978 and left my handy little Jungle Carbine at my mother’s place but she was compelled to turn it in tho the powers that be as gun laws changed in Canada. As I watched this video I could feel it in my hands again and feel the kick of that hard little rubber butt guard. Thanks Ian ... from Iain

[@Donnerbalken28]

Honestly, it's kind of amazing what the British did with the Lee-Enfield over the years, with all the variants, conversions and modifications.

[@elisorrells5314]

Definitely a great and iconic rifle pattern

[@TheGearhead222]

Another great video on a classic military rifle. I have a P.O.F. SMLE in 7.62 NATO, a 1941 P.O.F. SMLE in .303 and a Canadian #4 from Longbranch in .303:)-John in Texas

[@ltcolchemist4877]

This rifle has had an important place in my life and I've studied it quite a bit. I loved this video but I had to comment on the flash hider for those interested. He's absolutely right that using the same ammo in a shorter barrel would produce a flash that would give away your position. The design however is remarkable. It's essentially an expansion nozzle like you'd find on a rocket. This expansion rapidly cools the hot gasses enough to mitigate the flame. However, just as in a rocket, the energy doesn't merely disappear; it becomes increased velocity in the gasses themselves. Since the recoil is a combination of the result of the momentum of the projectile and the ejected gasses, this actually ADDS to the recoil. In effect this rifle has a rocket nozzle which drives the gun into your shoulder with every shot. It's literally the opposite of a muzzle break. So not only is it lighter, it is accidentally designed to produce more recoil. This gun is famous for its recoil and this effect is a significant contributor.

[@AshleyPomeroy]

That's fascinating, and makes a surprising amount of sense. The flsah hider does look like a rocket nozzle.

[@frankpriolo7735]

In 1966 I was stationed at Marine Corps Air Station ElToro California. I bought a Jungle Carbine in Santa Ana at a gun store for $50. I sold it in 1970. Wish I still had it! It was a great little rifle, especially since I am only 5’5” and at the time weighed 138 lbs.

[@andycy2226]

There is a whole bunch of these in New Zealand where the war surplus stock was popular with deerstalkers. Most have been sporterized though. Flash suppressors and bayonet plugs have been removed for legal reasons and often the top wood is gone and the butts altered. They are fairly common and cheap because most had hard lives in the bush so they're pretty rough. I got one of an old deerstalker. It has all the markings electroplated on the receiver, barely readable. No.5 Mk1 ROF (F) 12/45

[@DefunctYompelvert]

Andy Cunninghym I think you’ll find most NZ ones are just shortened MK 1s and no 1 mk3s rather than legit jungle carbines. Also theres no legal requirements to remove bayonet lugs/flash suppressors on manually operated firearms in NZ

[@billmelater6470]

"Most have been sporterized though." You got your own Fudds then eh? I never understood why people did that to rifles.

[@stuartm2106]

@@billmelater6470 Same here in Australia, although I think they were mostly sporterized by professional gunsmiths during the 1950s and 60s, not some bozo with a hacksaw. You've got to remember that these guns were dirt cheap after WW2 and with thousands being surplused they were not regarded as especially collectable. They were a cheap way of getting a hunting rifle, and AIUI the same thing happened with the M1917 Enfield in the USA in the same period. Also as some states had laws prohibiting use of military calibres a lot of these were rebarreled for necked-down calibres eg 250/303 or 270/303.

[@billmelater6470]

@@stuartm2106 It's the same here in the US with Springfields, Mosins, Arisakas, etc. Lot's of things got the "Bubba chop" (I call it that regardless if a smith does it because Bubba still wanted it). But I get it, things don't become collectible until many years down the road and you just can't predict it. I get buying them as cheap hunting rifles, but I can't understand why they felt the need to cut the stock. That doesn't make it any more or less of a hunting rifle and in many cases hurts accuracy as some milsurps require barrel tension.

[@jordanwilliams6972]

A year late, but once upon a time (not that long ago actually) surplus rifles were really cheap, the ammo was really cheap and quite powerful, and it was an easy way to get a somewhat budget hunting rifle. Plus, done well they are nicer and better than their original manufacturing. I have a really nice 1903A3 sporterized with a shorter barrel, and mannlicher stock, redfield sights etc, and shoots very very well.

[@brianperry]

As a non-gun owner l aways appreciate your channel for talking about the history of and the engineering involved not as many do the This is an ideal 'home defence weapon'...because........

[@MikeKatsar]

It has got to be annoying being a left-handed firearms historian in a world of predominately right handed rifle designs...

[@MrAlumni72]

+Michael K Firing on automatic can be problematic, with ejected casings hitting you in the face on some models (I'm looking at you, M-16) but for competition shooting it's not really a problem. Clearly Ian has gotten some practice in on the bolt-action moves (very smooth!)

[@davidsmith800]

I remember as a young kid looking at several of these on a rack in our small town gun shop (around 1972) in Nova Scotia with a $125 price tag on them. I was most impressed by the look of the flash hider. Back in those days around here there were more .303s and M1 carbines for sale than you could shake a stick at....

[@Hawk1966]

Man he works that action left handed like a champ. Seriously smooth and fast.

[@serchtf]

Damn Ian, that's a nice left handed bolt handling. That's why you're the gun Jesus!

[@escapedlumpensvolochspecimen]

These videos are kinda like ASMR for me. I'm not exactly a gun nut but I have a huge interest in firearms and the historical context surrounding them. Especially obscure or prototype ones. Ian delivers insightful analysis and excellent production values, which is really refreshing in any KZbin channel. Bravo!

[@roycesjourney37]

I've spent a lot of time just watching this channel, you deliver the info very well. Never bragging or talking about yourself. Never being over verbose. However dude, your knowledge of all the different manual of arms and your weapons handling skills are top notch. That was some mighty fine southpaw bolt handling skills

[@MrThornBeast]

World war 2 has always been a big hobby of mine. My gramps would tell me al of these amazing stories about his time fighting in France, Belgium, Holland and Germany. Unfortunately he died three years ago. So I keep growing my knowledge with videos like these. So thank you forgotten weapons, from England!

[@Rooster-Booster]

Being a left handed shooter as well your method of cycling the action has helped me, thank you!

[@Steve_G88]

I wish right handed people could look that badass when cycling a turn bolt.

[@mrnobody1958]

I would be happy just having it designed to your dominant hand on virtually all other platforms, but yes gun Jesus is the life and the way of cordite.

[@CinimodNorton]

As a righty, I agree. He was working it, but being he is a lefty he has most likely been dealing with this most of his life and adapted. I say very well.

[@GeorgiaBoy1961]

You can - just learn to run a left-handed bolt gun, and you'll be there.

[@timflannagan8204]

Great to see another left hander shooting this gun. It is one of my favorite guns to shoot! Really a great 50 yard shooter and I love to bring it out to shoot with friends and novice shooters. Thanks for the information on the wondering zero and adulterated models. Had not heard that before.

[@Rush-ld2qr]

Just wanted to tell you have much I enjoy ALL OF YOUR GREAT VIDEOS AND INFO YOU SHARE to your viewers on each of the weapons you talk about! Keep up the great work sir! Thank you!!

[@davedevries5866]

The first weapon I ever fired as an army cadet in the UK at 13 years old. Remember being told “you’ll be fine it doesn’t kick much’..😉😉😉😂

[@AnikaJarlsdottr]

my first shot from a rifle as an army cadet was a rebored Number 4 with the barrel and chamber refitted for 22.lr. after that, we moved onto the L86a2 and the LSW. would have loved to fire one of these rifles though, they look awesome

[@AnikaJarlsdottr]

@John Cliff I loved firing it, it was accurate, reliable and it didnt kick like a mule. only problems I had with it was it sometimes didnt wanna extract 22.Lr, which I hear is reasonably common for that ammunition. more than once I got confused trying to load a new shot into a chamber that still had the old brass.

[@AnikaJarlsdottr]

@Peter Riseborough the staff had to take the bolt out and use a punch to extract stuck brass from the chamber where the bolt tore the rim from the 22. lr brass xD

[@AnikaJarlsdottr]

@Peter Riseborough it only happened once before I got up to the L86 and the LSW

[@hosedragger-204]

I've got one of these. It's a nice little rifle, but has a stout recoil, and an extremely loud report. At the range I go to, it makes the hollow metal poles that hold up the tin roof of the outdoor ranges ring like a bell, and rattles the roof. It's hilarious the reactions I get from people at the range with that rifle

[@davidhobbs5679]

God I love the sound of the Lee Enfield action. It's just so crisp. Even the not so loved little brother.

[@mjwpowerstroke]

Really enjoyed this review of the jungle. I own one myself. Bought it from AIM awhile back. Supposedly they served in SE Asia and due to that are a bit "rough" in appearance. I still am glad I bought it.

[@JEnkins91589]

I have one of these, 1944 ROF (F), its a dream, and it drives tacks at 100 Yds

[@cameronstewart6016]

I love my Jungle Carbine, it’s an ROF dated 8/45, it’s definitely seen service, given the dates, I’d say most likely in Malaya as there is field repair on the stock, clearly different wood patching up some spots. I personally love it and think it gives the gun more personality. The bore and rifling are great and the bolt action is as smooth as it was in “45. Definitely what I would want to carry if I were in Burma in WWII.

[@australianmade2659]

I have a BSA carbine and it’s a fantastic fun. I don’t know much about this wandering zero and neither do the deers

[@JohnDoe-tw8es]

Had one as a kid here in Canada. Loved it , thought it was a great weapon. The only trouble was it kicked like a mule. Which was from what I heard the complaint from many soldiers. If it had a smaller round or even less powder would have been more popular I think.

[@SporadicallySane]

Incredibly interesting to finally get the real scoop on the 'wandering zero' phenomenon from a trusted source and put it to rest. Just like many of the more unusual modified service rifles of WWII, there is so much myth and misinformation out there about the No.5 Mk.1 carbine. Especially considering its very short service life. I'm also glad to see that you didn't find the recoil too harsh. It's been hyped up as some sort of horrible shoulder killer and I just can't see that being the case even with the stoutest .303. Stouter and more uncomfortable though? Sure. Thanks again Ian for another fantastic video!

[@7hart2]

Keep in mind, the Brits really wanted to vindicate purchasing a new semi, or assault rifle, to a nation suffering from a WW I I recovery - in light of the "red menace." A get-me-by firearm configuration to a stingy treasury, would not be seen as too useful as a long term solution. The Indian army learned the hard way when fighting Pakistan that bolt actions were not viable as a majority weapon.

[@animefreddiemercury]

7hart2 I've always been fascinated by the "Stop-gap" weapons after the war. If WWII had started a few years later, I'm pretty sure every nation would have been fielding semiauto rifles. Some of my favorite weapons are stop-gap guns. The SKS, Hakim, and most of all, the FN49 (And I suppose the M14 to some extent as well. Both the FN49 and M14 rank as my favorite guns)

[@Sir_Godz]

+SporadicallySane Recoil is very harsh compared to a full length same era rifle. I have a No5 and a mauser from WW2 and to shoot either without looking at the cartridge you would think they are vastly different. In the heat of battle I doubt anyone would notice a difference except maneuvering them.

[@SporadicallySane]

Paul Reuten Exactly. I don't doubt at all that the recoil on the No. 5 is far more punishing (as with all cut down carbines of its type, the Berthier in particular sucks) but the internet being what it is has always reapted this claim ad nauseum that the No. 5 is a horrible shoulder killer and totally unpleasant which has just not been my experience. As you say, in the heat of battle, you're probably not going to care it's giving you a bigger bruise. :)

[@JohnnyFiveEagles]

+SporadicallySane This man's show is quite fascinating. I was very interested about collectible guns when I was younger but in Canada, the trouble to maintain a collection was becoming more and more difficult even though my father and I had built a secret safe in the ceiling of his warehouse but over the years people of course got to know where the safe was an somebody hit it once(thieved) many old rifles and shotguns and some nice Semi- automatic rifles made in Israel and Austria. My dad said enough of this bullshit and we pretty much dropped the idea but this show has brought a renewed interest into my life. Thanks dude.

[@troy9477]

Nice video. Guess i need one now to go with my No.4 Mk1. I remember a print article with photos showing native troops and British advisers using them in the Malayan emergency. They were well thought of. Perhaps the wandering zero was less prevalent than we think. Great bolt technique for us left handers. Saw it in another of your vids. Surprised i had never seen it before. I will try it. Great video. Thank you

[@bmwnasher]

RSA Enfield near where i live, had a friend work there in the 70s he was working on the SA80, i did visit the factory when they were testing an Aden cannon, awesome noise, our Government decided to privatise the factory, and the purchasers realised the land was worth millions for housing, so they closed a gem of British Engineering

[@alphaplenn]

Shit happens when the government makes bad decisions!

[@iananderson1848]

Real shame. Quality engineering alright

[@simonnormand2813]

I like your explanation in regards to the wondering zero, makes sense. However it really was not that important if you consider the job the tool was made for, where if you get contact at 50 meters, that might be considered long range.

[@Ammo08]

I had one of those, kicked like a mule...fairly accurate. Whoever designed the rubber buttpad should have been prosecuted for battery.

[@KC-bg1th]

Why are you reiterating the opening sentence of the top comment on this video?

[@Ammo08]

@@KC-bg1th For grins..

[@angiefav1847]

I have one of these in perfect condition love this little Jungle Carbine, many thanks to you Ian and your efforts truely great videos to watch and get extra information from thanks again

[@elektro3000]

Great to see one of these in action and get the real story on the wandering zero. I've been enjoying my Ishapore 2A1 so much, I've been toying with the idea of buying a second one (if i can find one in "rough" condition) to cut the barrel down and remount it in a lightweight synthetic sporter stock to build a "Scout Rifle" with that Enfield action I love so much and the .308/7.62mm chambering. It wouldn't be as light as a No.5 MkI but at least now I know there wouldn't be any worry about accuracy.

[@Dutch1951x]

I bought one of these in 1967 for around $21 if I recall correctly. It was coated in thick hard cosmoline and didn't appear to have ever been fired. It was my first deer rifle and one hell of a little brush gun! I picked up two that had been sporterized a few years back but both of their boars are shot so they need new barrels. Would be nice to put them back in their original configuration.

[@garethpreston8275]

My cousin and I took his dads No 5 out with us possum shooting one night back in the 1990's (possums are a major pest here in New Zealand). At a range of approximately 5 metres or about 15 feet, a single shot split a possum into 2 separate pieces.

[@MrShenyang1234]

This guy is one excellent shooter. Hell, I couldn't even see the target he was shooting at & he hit it every time. And only using the Peep Sight. WOW!

[@alN_ww]

So this is what that medic was doing instead of reviving me

[@grumpybastard5744]

Ian, I've got to admire your left-handed technique. Dad was a lefty and he really found the SMLE hard to use. When his regiment (2/9 Division Cavalry) was reformed as the 2/9 Cavalry Commando he was the Bren gunner and he really loved the Bren. On patrol he would only swap it for an Owen.

[@edwardhandley1132]

The MoD planned to replace the No 4 with the No 5 as they felt that being smaller it was more suitable for armoured infantry - they were testing the Humber Pig APC and developing the Saracen, but the wandering zero proved to be too much of a problem. I had a beautiful No 5 in .22 - one of a small batch of experimental training rifles made by BSA. Same size and and weight but without the flash hider.

[@lukasnygren9373]

Saw one of Jackfrags Battlefield 5 videos, and now i'm here... Heck?

[@bcstorm3]

I owned one of these, and it was very good at mostly 200 yards or less. It was easy to maintain and fun to shoot.

[@johnprice5784]

I had the great luck to fire one of these on the range at RAF Brize Norton in the 1970s when I was a young Air Training Corps cadet, it " belonged " to an RAF Regiment sergeant who had it on the range the day I visited, he let me put 5 rounds through it and I was surprised how much more the felt recoil was compared to our usual no4 mk1. He was having fun with a Sterling but I was just glad to fire the carbine. Happy days .

[@13aceofspades13]

Recoil pad, something you don't want to be rock hard after 70 years...

[@MrBioniclefan1]

that's for sure

[@renardgrise]

I have a Lee-Enfield No.4, a No.5, and a Mosin-Nagant... unlike the others, my No.5 makes my shoulder sore every time I shoot it, haha.

[@MrBioniclefan1]

Zack Tyler yeah that would make sense

[@Wayne72LEVRAI]

This pad is not made for recoil, but to no-skid on wet uniform.

[@nickyleblanc4200]

Our family in Maine has been deer hunting with one of these for decades.Great firearm.Kicks like a mule.

[@duttythedude7562]

I’m pretty sure DICE watches these videos when trying to decide what weapons to add to BFV.

[@bengier8889]

DuttyTheDude lol that would be hilarious if they did

[@DeosPraetorian]

Well he actually work with them on battlefield 1

[@phosphordiester7545]

@@bengier8889 They said they do :D

[@shallows529]

@@DeosPraetorian Yep. He's even mentioned in the Bf 1 credits.

[@kevinoliver3083]

The recoil pad did make difference. My uncle was in a unit* which received an issue of No.5 rifles for troop trials. Including some with standard stocks, without recoil pads. They were very uncomfortable to shoot and were returned to stores after a month or so. *6th Airborne Division. It was proposed that the No.5 become the standard rifle for British paratroopers and glider troops.

[@MiketheMadness]

9:01 hopefully I'll be like this stock when im 70

[@dchief089]

Just picked up a No. 1 Mk 3 1916 enfield produced rifle. It's in great shape and a perfect bore. Can't wait to shoot it. Being a patreon supporter, I was also wanting to know when the next Q&A session is.

[@GoatFish1987]

I have a jungle carbine that my grandpa sawed the flash hider off and just put a brass plate on the buttstock and its probably one of my favorite guns to shoot .

[@andrewmn3024]

This intro needs to make a comeback!

[@duecebigalowmalegigalow6332]

9:02 my grandpa said he’s 70 years old and rock hard

[@blondbowler8776]

My first deer rifle was one of these. $24.95, IIRC, w/100 rds. hardball, delivered to my front door from Klein's Sporting Goods out of the back of a Outdoor Life magazine. Took it to school on the bus and hunted on the way home, or hitch hiked up into the mountains for the weekend. Brutal on a skinny sixteen year old. Seems to me it had a brass butt plate.

[@dalecarpenter8828]

I have one it's great ! I use it some times deer hunting ! It was not a lot of money and I couldn't give a shit if it's a collector ! Mine shoot the same year after year !

[@cwferguson1664]

been using mine for over fifty years. the wandering zero is a not an issue on mine

[@tannerbries9528]

cw ferguson I got a hold of one about 2 years ago and haven’t had a problem yet with a decent amount of shooting

[@wayvicle]

Thank you for explaining the criteria for authenticity & rim lock.

[@chrisloUSA]

Thanks for another wonderful video, can you possibly do the Ishapore 2A1 next?

[@subeyguy66]

I bought one of these as a sporterized mk4 for $100 in 2010. Took it home and apart for cleaning and noticed the scalloping and the correct serialization. The No 5 Mk1 had been repainted over so thick it was only slightly visible at an angle so the guy had no clue. Glad I didn't throw it in the truck as my cheap ranch gun without further inspection.

[@andrewpaul3130]

My word! Absolutely Splendid! Now a cuppa char.

[@bigchunk1]

I saw a jungle carbine in .308 Probably was a fake. Edit: This guy works a bolt like a champion!

[@dcm1104]

i have seen the same. The owner told me it had seen service in India where it had been reworked and rechambered.

[@campcookhenry]

The foreign legion in Vietnam was supposed to of had the 308 version,I have a friend that was in the marines that has one , he was there in 1967 , he got his from an member of the NVA that didn’t need it or thing else any more .

[@sergeantbigmac]

Probably fake, if it isnt an Indian made one then it might be a 'Santa Fe Arms' they made a lot of jungle carbine repros and 308 rechambers back in the day. And when I say back in the day I mean dating back to the 1950s. The popularity of the jungle carbine is NOT new within the US market.

[@gijr2003]

There's some YT vids of JC 308. IIRC saw some in 1980s?

[@GeorgiaBoy1961]

The Ishapore Arsenal in India rebarreled and rechambered a number of Enfields to 7.62x51mm/.308, mostly SMLEs but also a scattering of jungle carbines as well. You can easily spot them, since the Ishapore carbines have a straight-walled magazine, as opposed to the slightly curved one used for .303. The Indians went to the trouble because they used the Lee-Enfield bolt-action as their service rifle into the 1970s, and then thereafter as a police and security force weapon.

[@bumholekid1383]

What a shame, a beautiful awesome looking rifle. Also left handed right handed what a beautiful action on the Enfileds

[@7hart2]

Hmmm how about a run and gun featuring the no 5 mk 1/ webley or hi power versus the m38/44 mosin nagant and tokarev?

[@dukecity7835]

I like the 303 British jungle series; have two of them both good shooters, are also unique weapon, he didn't mention that you can attach a bayonet for hands on combat and very cool looking rifle.

[@IceBreaker.22]

How can it happens??? I just unlocked this gun in Battlefield V and what do i see in my recommended videos on youtube........ Fucking skynet!

[@TudBoatTed]

When KZbin algorithms work

[@BucketPonds]

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[@TudBoatTed]

@@BucketPonds I'm happy, but seriously, it's cos BFV watchers searched this up and watched this, so it got recommended to other BFV watchers

[@BucketPonds]

@@TudBoatTed fair enough 👍 But hey they do listen! Facebook went nuts on me for signing a Lil Peep song near my phone. I've also been able to incluence youtube ads simply by talking about subjects near my phone. It's easy to verify and a bit frightening

[@TudBoatTed]

@@BucketPonds yeah, it's happened to me aswell, I can trust Google though, as long as they don't give it away

[@chriswarren1618]

One up One down....Thats the simple terminology we were always taught, to locate the rims of 303 cartridges in the clip.

[@kerylholt1921]

Army cadets 1972, we all had a 303, taught us the same, one up one down.

[@TudBoatTed]

BFV just indirectly gave you more views

[@harry9392]

I am glad you took off the mag as I have had arguments with some people who were positive that you could not remove it

[@frostedbutts4340]

I guess they were confused because the magazine is removable, but soldiers weren't issued with multiple ones and some don't fit well on other rifles. You really only remove it for cleaning or clearing jams

[@brianhanson8034]

I've owned mine for 35 years, wouldn't trade for anything. Hoping to hunt with it again this winter. Yes, it kicks, no more than a light 12 gauge though. More than accurate enough, even at longer ranges. If you are lucky enough to find one, store it muzzle down, even though the recoil pad is rock-hard it will flatten over time from the rifles weight

[@AmronFortis]

Anybody here because of the new weapon in BF5? Lmao

[@AlvaroXXZ]

Yes

[@Pretzel-j3s]

It just pop up on my recommendation list lmao :))

[@endercomt2380]

Me

[@deathgripskaraoke9351]

@Prince Otter Channel2 the video was made in 2015 you wally

[@Jumptohistory]

I was wondering if I should put this in my Guns playlist or Battlefield playlist: ended up putting it in both.

[@RovingARock]

That has a very nice report! I was expecting it to be a higher crack, but that's a very satisfying thump.

[@georgejordan9516]

What is one of these worth?

[@alanlucy7995]

I was at a farm sale in NZ in 1961 when a guy turned up with a large crate half full of brand new jungle carbines all wrapped and covered in greased paper.they were 10 pounds sterling each, I used mine for hunting deer in the bush ,I did cut off the bayonet catch as it often caught up in dense fern ..

[@brucewillis2542]

You can reduce recoil by taking off the butt plate and filling in the extra space in there with lead bb's. It increases the mass in the stock and so reduces the recoil Bruce

[@mustafankamil1973]

3 round hits in 6 seconds very impressive , better than Oswald lol

[@bobbycars1340]

And shooting left handed on a right handed bolt action.

[@gulfrelay2249]

Mussy Design with practice and motivation you too can fire 3 shots in 6 seconds with a bolt action. ditto hitting. from a rest, with a scope, at 50- 80 yards? again, with motivation. the real conspiracy was getting Oswald there at the right time.

[@brandonboyd2500]

After watching this video I went and had a close look at mine. It has the matching number magazine... a 0 bolt head and it really look like it wasn't shot much . And I banged off 200 rounds through it the last few years. Wow what a find

[@CoryFarrar]

I have a 1947 Fazakerly no5 that I am currently trying to bring back to life after bubba got his hands on it. Unfortunately I am having issues with finding the replacement part that I need like the fore end stock and the top piece, the barrel bands, and rear sites. Do you know of any web sites that might have what I am looking for?

[@tommyblackwell3760]

I really hope it's not the '47 Fazakerly No5 that I foolishly sold back around 1990 in Alabama. I'd love to have that rifle back now.

[@CoryFarrar]

Tommy Blackwell That would be an insane coincidence... do you know the SN?

[@tommyblackwell3760]

Yes I do, I'll pm you.

[@ozdavemcgee2079]

Lithgow Small Arms in Australia also developed a No5 carbine. A few examples were made but permission for full scale production was never granted. There are about 100 or so about. As for accuracy I have no information. The museum at LSA has 2 in their collection. edit. there were 4 prototypes 50 of each made. 200 total approx called No6 by Lithgow. see Rare Aussie Lee Enfield Rifles on here.

[@HinrikS]

Where the hell did you snag surplus 303? It was my understanding that you simply couldn't get surplus 303's anymore. My friend who has a Lee-Enfield could be interested in hearing about that.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

At the moment, Cheaper Than Dirt has surplus Greek 303, which is noncorrosive, reloadable, and generally excellent.

[@HinrikS]

Thanks mate, i'll pass it along to my friend and another guy, the only regular dealer of military rifles and ammo in Iceland.

[@shane142]

Little bit of information, Army surplus 303 round are very easy to get around New Zealand and Australia.

[@HinrikS]

Really? i guess my knowledge is a bit too regional and outdated.

[@simonferrer]

Hinrik Stefnir Ævarsson I don't know if they can ship ammunition to Iceland or not, but the Sportsman's Guide has new PPU .303 ammo (softpoint and full metal jacket) at around $15 USD a 20 round box.

[@robertgriffin662]

Who says a lefty can't fire a right handed bolt action rifle ! Ha! I'm a lefty and i loved my lee enfield .303. I miss it in fact. Love your channel man keep the vids coming please.

[@peterisaacs1344]

Well done on the left hand bolt work

[@AlvaroXXZ]

Battlefield V?

[@josephescobar4224]

AlvaroXXZ pacific theatre

[@joedirte716]

Democrats are scum of the earth

[@andreasmartin7942]

An elder gentleman once gave me one of these as a present. I did not have much opportunity to actually try it out, so this video was very interesting to me. Thank you very much! Also, your shooting speed with this is remarkable. Sorry for me not knowing the correct term. Repetition speed? Bolt..cyle.. rate? You now what I mean :-)

[@jaguarfacedman1365]

No glockazine. This video is 0% operator.

[@jamesr792]

I have a knockoff Jungle Carbine made out of a 1943 Fazackerly No4. I checked the receiver and barrel and since it lacks the scallops I think it might just be an unwitting improvement over the original. It still shoots great, too!

[@kevinolesik1500]

take out coconuts in the jungle with that shooter ...

[@zebrasixtwo3116]

I love my Jungle Carbine. Buttery smooth bolt and extremely accurate and I have never experienced anything that I would consider wandering zero. With the ghost ring and my failing eyesight, I can shoot a six inch group at 300 yards. With the 1.25-4.5x26 Barska scope I installed via a B-Square picatinny rail (actually marketed as a No.4 rail, but fits the No. 5 fine) I can stretch that to 600 yards using Hornady Vintage Match ammo. The Vintage Match is LOTS more expensive than other offerings, but shoots closer to the original military .303 than anything else.

[@LShapedAmbush]

I have a clone of the Jungle Carbine sold in the 1960s by Santa Fe Arms. It has the short barrel, stock, flash hider, etc., of the Jungle Carbine but not the lightening cuts on the receiver or barrel. I love it. I've never tested it for accuracy or for holding a zero but I did have in the trunk one day when my AR-15 broke during a match. I drew my Enfield out of the car and finished the match by hitting clay pigeons at 50 yards. It's a great little rifle.

[@gia1735]

So if the Lighting Cuts were the reason for the Wandering Zero and most Fakes do not have the Cuts, there's a possibility that with a Fake you might get the accuracy missing from a real one, while retaining that Jungle Carbine look ??

[@oml81mm]

They were 'lightening' cuts' and they were commonly blamed for causing what we called the 'floating zero', but in the event, for what the rifle was designed for, it didn't really matter. Effective ranges in close jungle were less than 20 or 30 yards. Having said that not all 'jungle' was was close up stuff with nil visibility and it still had the power to go considerably further. In these circumstances the faulty zero was a definite disadvantage.

[@thetooner8203]

No. There was never conclusive evidence that the cuts caused the wandering zero, because they couldn't reliably produce the wandering zero when they tried. It was just a theory that if the wandering zero was real, the cuts might be the cause.

[@MutantCheese]

I have a #5 MK1 and I can vouch for it's "Kicks like a mule" reputation.

[@oml81mm]

Any rifle will recoil, but it won't 'kick' if you hold it properly

[@cwferguson1664]

if you think a #5 kicks , I dont know what to tell you. Ive always found them a user friendly and forgiving weapon. I ran out of ammo once and used mine as a club one night and it didnt hurt it at all , the guy I clubbed with it went down like a rock.

[@WhiteCavendish]

Ian, have you heard the story that the "Wandering Zero" story is actually just a bunch of bullocks that the British Government came up with as an excuse to adopt a semi auto rifle? I find it an interesting and believable story, and I wonder about your thoughts on that particular take on the matter.

[@rosslynstone]

+WhiteCavendish bollocks it's not bovine

[@John4566442]

+WhiteCavendish - "I find it an interesting and believable story." No, it's not. Think about it.

[@WhiteCavendish]

+John4566442 Having worked the majority of my adult life for the government of my country, the idea strikes me as entirely plausible. Stupider things have been done by governments.

[@John4566442]

Another conspiracy theory. There's no reason to kill the No.5 in 1947 in order to adopt an SLR 10 years later. The No.5 wasn't any threat to an SLR but the No.4 was. With hundreds of thousands of them in inventory, it's hard to justify adopting a new rifle.