Noam Chomsky - How to Read the News Media

[@abcd123906]

(Paraphrasing) "The information is all out there, the problem is that so few people have the time or will expend the effort necessary to process all of it in a meaningful way and glean the right insights from it (and the elite know this)" Exactly!!!

[@devantebuford5670]

They call it "rational ignorance".

[@blackflagsnroses6013]

“Manufacturing Consent” is so relevant today it’s not funny. The MSM has lost all credibility in my opinion. Journalism and the press used to be about truth and challenging the powerful. These last decades they defend and serve the powerful. Yellow journalism, no Muckrakers.

[@naveed210]

There’s a revolving door between the two of them as well. 10 yrs or so ago there was a Tory MP who had a senior post at ITV. A Daily Mirror journo (Lee Cain) is now on Boris Johnson’s communications team. The whole thing is a total stitch up. One of the best British writers George Monbiot said BBC is the arena is where you suspend doubt, once that’s gone they can make the viewer accept anything.

[@daltonlucas5529]

All you have to do is follow the path of ownership and you’ll see the underlying reason responsible for the control and manipulation of today’s state of so-called journalism. You’ll see that after the passing of telecommunications act by Clinton, we find ourselves under the influence of 5 media conglomerates known colloquially as the “big five”. And who’s not to say that they all don’t collude with each other or any intelligence gathering departments of the US government. If you don’t think there isn’t any guidelines or “suggestions” being broadcasted by the big five, then you need to stop being so naive and wake the fuck up and start doing just a little bit of research.

[@googlecensorsyoutubeconten8309]

You state, "Journalism and the press used to be about truth and challenging the powerful." Really? When was that? What bygone era are you referring to?

[@coreycox2345]

I have never before seen this at work live as in the deliberate misinformation unfolding in Venezuela. After spending a week studying the contrasts between different news; It is more than "slant," it is deliberate fabrications to support illegal government actions as they happen. It has taken days, and I would not have had time when I was working. (retired) It always impresses me that Noam Chomsky has such a calm demeanour. I feel like screaming at people about it, and they often wouldn't even know what I was saying, regardless of how articulate I was. How does he do it?

[@Syncopator]

What's surprising about the Venezuela case is that the establishment either doesn't think that a significant number of people can see through the charade, or they don't care.

[@brianearner5092]

Would you be on board with a red state, blue state solution? If you can't agree on truths, your further than Sunni, shia

[@furiousmat]

the key to not getting angry is to realize that we've all been fooled by this system at some point. I've also had a similar experience, when I started getting interested by a hot topic in the news and decided to go read more about it by myself, to see international reporting etc. I was shocked and realized how dishonest was the coverage I was getting, from mainstream sources that I was sure were reliable. They weren't just mistaken or sloppy. The deception was obviously deliberate, and concerted with other MSM outlets. But if someone else had come to me and told me that, I wouldn't have believed it. And most likely, I wouldn't have paid attention at all, and would've thought they were gullible conspiracy theorists. I needed to come face to face with it by myself to realize that. It's an effort in humility. You need to accept to have been fooled, and be honest with yourself: you can't very well scream at people for not yet knowing what you yourself didn't know a few days ago. They're not idiot. They just don't know. All you can do is tell them calmly and patiently. And I think the bits by bits approach is better: when they talk about it, just slide in a peek of a different view points. Just a glimpse, like a fact they were conveniently never told that could get them to rethink. Then leave it at that. Go too hard and they'll close. If you get angry or arrogant, they'll reject everything you tell them.

[@weareallbornmad410]

Can you share some links to compare between regarding Venezuela? I'm still confused about what's really going on, I'd like to see what you see.

[@coreycox2345]

@@weareallbornmad410 I wish I had taken notes (next time). The Abby Martin one was excellent and anything where the Venezuelan Foreign Minister is speaking for himself.

[@eschaton2834]

Every Noam Chomsky video has very low sound.

[@AymanB]

The manager of this channel rarely amplifies audio. It's been pointed out. Gotta live with it or amplify it using VLC's youtube link playback function.

[@imhoisntworthmuch5441]

interesting that with headphones I rarely have to complain, especially on an 85 clip. poinr aside, I know vlc but ty for mentionning it can be used on yt. akso, perhaps an equalizer app, if it exists.

[@sumlatinkid]

"who cares about the murder of JFK and 911, why does it even matter anymore" - Noam Chomsky

[@Jordan-uz9me]

We need a Chomsky Archive and Remastering project :)

[@imhoisntworthmuch5754]

@@Jordan-uz9me yeah.. another link to an 'improved' audio.

[@musiiic3]

thank you for uploading! I wanted to write to him about this exact topic.

[@greatmcluhansghost7134]

no substitute for intelligence and skepticism. you have to be very privileged(meaning if you aren't struggling to make ends meet, watching your back all the time, working a shit job, you can figure out what's going on)! Yes, poverty and even jobs keep people stupid, along with following sports, religion and any ideology for that matter. multiple points of view will lead to more truth than one static position. "a point of view is a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight and understanding"-McLuhan

[@realtruth529]

Yes, Chumsky`s words are still very relevant in our world...and what we need is great PASSION to know things and understanding. I am aware its 5 years later, and the culture has only been going down and down from smartphone mindless use and limiting the everyones attension and abilty to think themselfes. Media, Governments and organisations truely more out of control on behlf on special interest as the years has past. Most western people actually have plus energy and money, livng spoiled easy lifes, but choose to spend freetime on MINDLESS intertainment, phones and other superficial things, while having more resources and time on their hands than earlier generation. Its just become a more spuerficial stupid culture worldwide, even in the midst of so much information being at our fingertips easily. Chumsky ideas of media and government sketicism points to the truth that democracy shrinks or rise in accordance to our courage and passion for truth and good for all. To leave democracy alone and trust in the hands of selfinterest of the little elite to do any good is ther quick way to suffering for everyone, including the rich as it will turn eventually to limit their lifes too. It takes wisdom to see how things connect and what the create in bigger future picture. This culture only try to weaken people ability to think freely, but most are too blind to see how things are forced and controlled as they are being shaped early on, just we understand better that its is done always in dictatorship and totalitarian system. In the west we are naive and too spoiled to even look deeper and realize the ways also here are things being controlled and moved forward. Its just done in more sneaky and complicated ways. Step one is understand the conditions we live in.

[@a-gnosis]

Absolute brilliance

[@maryamzrk945]

Bless you, Sir

[@hmcyrus]

4:22 যারা পর্যাপ্ত সময়, রিসোর্স এবং প্রশিক্ষণ পায় তাদের পক্ষে বিদ্যমান বয়ানগুলার সত্যতা-অসত্যতা যাচাই করা সম্ভব হয়। এসব পূর্বশর্ত যাদের ক্ষেত্রে পূরণ হয়না তারা ধোঁয়াশায় থেকে যায়।

[@imhoisntworthmuch5441]

some of us aren't old, but enough to see history repeating. edit: as always, thks for the u/l and the link to the source.

[@jongibirdi1394]

When the news is worth billions truth is never going to be priority

[@Orf]

4:15 have to privileged to figure out what is going on. Have time and resources

[@watanglipuhadjar2654]

"once you understand how to read them, then you can get a lot of information out of them." i think, the point is how to understand various information with the existing knowledge capacity..

[@robertskolimowski7049]

Manchester Guardian? What year is this talk from?🤔

[@TheJonnyEnglish]

My dad doesn’t know who this guy is and that’s a shame

[@lp8969]

You really have to give the system props, most of the time the media actually believes the lies. Interesting how Trump is out there getting points from the right wing from pointing this out - I wish someone on the left had the balls to do the same and start opening people's eyes.

[@defaulltmake]

Why did one guy made a dislike?

[@sixmillionaccountssilenced6721]

Sam Harris.

[@AndreDiasRJ]

They cannot blatantly lie all the time, that will statistically destroy that communication channel, it will be too obvious they lie

[@AugustFreestyle]

You're right, and as you probably know Chomsky has commented on that fact; when the state loses its power to control the population by force, you have to do it by controlling their minds. That's why the western propaganda system is much more effective than that of the old Soviet Union, and today's North-Korea, because information passes through several filters which shape how its dispersed and distributed. In North.Korea it doesn't matter if the public knows the media is lying to them, because the population can be beaten to submission.

[@j.j.r.6075]

@@AugustFreestyle I agree. Would you agree that there's something more subversive about the system we've got in the west? In brutal dictatorships, it is clear who is holding the stick and beating you, even if they claim it to be 'for the greater good' or whatever. In the west, it's difficult to find a clear blame to lay on any individual or government (it's mostly unaccountable corporations). The problem is systemic to the point that even those carrying out propaganda are often 'just doing their job'. Media that focuses on short, incomplete, one sided stories, focusing on big headlines (for the clicks and money), often ignoring root causes of problems (which are often beyond the scope of knowledge of working people, or have time for, due to a terrible education system and long working hours). Indeed, if you talked to them, many editors, journalists, social media managers ...etc... you would find them to be democratic, liberal people. It's just so ingrained in the psyche of people to just believe the western-biased narrative... and those that don't believe it just don't get promoted in media companies. They're perhaps seen as 'radicals' or a risk to the image of the company.

[@AugustFreestyle]

@@j.j.r.6075 I agree with everything you say, it's clear that in today's capitalist west, there are many ways in which the political and economic systems attempt to shift the public's attention away from the people who are really responsible for society's problems. Whether it's more subversive I'm not sure, I honestly don't fully understand the entire meaning of the word (I'm not a native english speaker), but there's no doubt in my mind that the efforts that are being made to keep the public uninformed and isolated are very great in the west compared to other countries. On the other hand, many other countries outside the west employ much more brutal methods of controlling their population, while perhaps not as sophisticated and calculated. I don't really know which best fits the description for subversive.

[@j.j.r.6075]

@@AugustFreestyle Your command of English is excellent, and I envy you in being able write in another language so well. Whether something is subversive...? Well it's subjective, and what I said was a feeling on my part, rather than based on any concrete definition of 'subversive'. What's important is we can see what's actually going on, even if the language used to describe it is lacking. I think Chomsky has hinted at this before, that the language surrounding these issues is limited, with double definitions of words, making it hard for progressives to articulate clearly to much of the general public.

[@dengelke]

Is this from the Vermont speech?

[@penelopewaters4630]

So true

[@AymanB]

Ironically, Bernie Sanders was there. And now he's spouting mainstream premises about Venezuela... So disappointing on foreign policy.

[@solaria5513]

Proof ?

[@levmarchuk998]

You said it, man

[@AymanB]

@@solaria5513 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eae9g6aafcyrnaM

[@solaria5513]

still best candidate by far. and I doubt his comments on Venezuela were genuine yet they were disappointing

[@NyetTube]

Yup troubling but he finished with, that the U.S. must let the Venezuelan people decide their own leader and we must not interfere. I think it's okay to dislike Maduro without calling for our government to kill him which imo Bernie meant.

[@gregorysagegreene]

I'm reasonably 'right', but at 62 - and fucked - I coulda' done with this guy as a professor in high school.

[@Tom.Livanos]

I spent the first ten years of my career in financial services, read mainstream media including the business pages. Corporations do not have much at stake. Officers/Directors of a corporation are shielded legally. It is laypersons through to small business owners who have most at stake. Noam Chomsky, from what is shown here, is setting the audience up to go against the dominant paradigm. How much merit that has is dependent on many things. One thing this video is not: an advisory on how to read the news media. At least he states that one must depend on one's own awareness and discernment. Some-Many may benefit from hearing that. On my end, my mistake for clicking on the video I suppose.

[@flystraight7994]

Yea you talked too much indeed. Two minutes wasted on reading your complaining comment and replying to it.

[@Tom.Livanos]

@@flystraight7994 Cute. How about put your name to your words before complaining about someone else's comment. If you want to spend the rest of your life accounting for every two minutes that you spend in it... [laugh]... I suppose that is your choice. I mean... [I laugh again]... never mind... hahahahaha.

[@flystraight7994]

@@Tom.Livanos Sorry for your condition.

[@Tom.Livanos]

@@flystraight7994 I am at a loss as to what condition you are replying to me about - I leave you with that. If you want to be sorry then go ahead and be sorry. On my end, I do not recall you and I ever communicating outside this comments thread. I could keep this up for a long long time. It is up to you if you continue to reply.

[@flystraight7994]

@@Tom.Livanos So enthusiastic. Chill😂

[@clockwork914]

🇺🇸 BERNIE 2020 🇺🇸

[@billyb6001]

hypocritical since hes a denier of the Bosnian genocide.