Noam Chomsky - "Support Our Troops"

[@shway1]

Support our troops, bring them home Respect their lives, end stupid wars

[@BlindBloomer]

Patternicity Truth

[@marble296]

Liberal Resistance what's that square thing in your profile picture?

[@shway1]

mgarvo google "political compass"

[@marble296]

I'm as libertarian as you but slightly more left

[@Silver6400]

@@marble296 me too, i can't imagine anarchy without socialism

[@LarryLopez91]

I was having an argument with my friend about the meaning of "support our troops." He kept telling me that you "gotta support our troops no matter what!" I kept telling him that I don't support the things our government is having our troops do. I don't support the wars or our foreign policy. He then got all heated and kept telling me that "maybe you don't support what's going on, but you still gotta support 'em!" It's a meaningless slogan, just like Chomsky said right here. All it does it make you feel like you're this patriot and you don't have to deal with the realities and bullshit of our foreign policy.

[@migrainespike9750]

Larry Lopez and how do you $support the stormtroopers #clownvets

[@kennethsumerford3480]

We can support our troops by having them get out of Syria and Afghanistan within the next two months. Why have we stayed in Afghanistan for more than 16 years?

[@kryptonianog9418]

Support our troops . punch a politician in the face .

[@clabianco1]

Larry Lopez you probably will never read this because your comment was 2 years ago. Your friend is illogical and dangerous to society. Support our troops is similar to but not as clear as " My country, right or wrong". It means that if my country is in the right with a defensive war, then I will kill foreign enemies for it, AND if my country is in the wrong, then I will kill foreign innocents for it. If your friend can not see that he is morally wrong, then shun him, because all he need is the right price for him to kill you. He will kill people, foreign or domestic if he is told to do that by his governmental Masters.

[@edwardyang8254]

I'd just tell them I won't support the troop because I would never have joined or stayed in the troop knowing what I am ordered to do.

[@KenHu8]

Similar Slogan: Make America Great Again!

[@Rsambo00]

Hope and Change.

[@DrJones20]

Stronger Together

[@michaelanderson2881]

If you live in the U.S.--I can think of a very tangible step that can be taken to MAGA--one loser at a time.

[@martinosanmartin9523]

Yes we can! it's both business parties. you gotta vote independent and organize unions. that's real power to the people

[@goodgood9955]

I'm with her.

[@the1onlynoob]

“When I was introduced to the military, I was only 4. My father was a soldier and he told me that we protected people. God blessed him that he believed that until he passed away. I followed his foot steps, I imagined myself a Jedi, up holding peace and ending conflicts with a firm and calm hand. So I wielded my weapon with pride and followed orders. I knocked down doors and took parents from crying children. We marched into a village and saw the people flee before us in sheer terror. I knew then, I had become a stormtrooper.” - Israeli soldier, dishonourable discharged after he gave an interview.

[@Sinleqeunnini]

All the more reason to support Palestinian human rights

[@linobenetti6578]

God bless you and all the people you like n care for..whoever God it doesn't matter. my very best greetings from Athens gr

[@africanamericanwargreymon6341]

Now I don't support war at all. I'm vehemently anti-war and believe the US is a militaristic empire that slaughters millions just to maintain its influence. But I'm confident that an "Israeli soldier" would have NEVER have said that. Firstly you put "god bless his soul", these kind of backhanded religious platitudes are very uncommon outside of the US. There's not a single non-American that I know who has used the word "soul" and "god bless". Secondly, the post is riddled with star wars references. Star wars isn't as big as you think it is outside of America and Canada. Sure you have occasional fans but the mythos is deeply ingrained to the point where people incorporate those made-up words in their vocabularies. I also cannot find a single article that points to this mystery Israeli soldier So this story definitely NEVER happened. It's more likely that this was an American soldier that spoke of his experience in Iraq or Afghanistan

[@SaschaHusenbeth]

as a german, we get a lot of hate because we are not as patriotic as other countries. ironically, what Chomsky just said made me proud of our lack of blind patriotism.

[@nunliski]

Hell yeah! Patriotism is a fucking social disease. What matters is that we are all human.

[@SaschaHusenbeth]

true, and it's not an achievement to be born. as meritocracy fades and social mobility decreases, being human is truly all that should matter.

[@SaschaHusenbeth]

yes, it is massively exaggerated. we germans are proud of things that deserve our pride: - our football team (yes, we are not all talented players, but large portions of germany are voluntarily engaged in our "socialist" club structure that is the backbone of german sport) - our economy: we are aware of the fact that we profited most from the euro and easier exporting, but we also know that our attitude towards work and our innovation is second to no one - our socialised health and education systems, even though we know that social mobility and overall justice could be better - and so on... what i am trying to say is: we try not to be biased towards germany and see our country in a nuanced way and as a result of our own successes and mistakes. at least most of us. "post-war guilt" is a thing, i don't try to deny that, but it's not a problem because we learn historic facts in school and know, without trying to justify what happened, that the third reich was a direct result of a society that was denied its revolution and unity, then humiliated in the first world war and kicked in the balls by the great depression. "guilt" is just an ugly word for a rational and moral approach towards the past, and yes, i am proud of how we deal with our past, because many countries fail at doing so. best example: "black history month". there is human history, why divide it by skincolour?

[@SaschaHusenbeth]

***** very true. after all, our politics are still dominated by that generation that may have "german guilt", so you're quite right. the generation after the baby-boomers didn't have enough children, so we need immigration, economically speaking.

[@eltrut96]

Sascha...all I have to say is "thumbs up" to your comment.

[@angryreader8857]

"Support our mercenaries"

[@Powderfinger07]

Boom!

[@breebw]

Pay our mercenaries more, or do you support ISIS?

[@Powderfinger07]

Our mercenaries include ISIS - I assume that is what you meant? Because that is a fact.

[@Powderfinger07]

I already do with my tax money - because somehow Syrian children need to be murdered?

[@adriannasmiths8262]

Are you a patriot ?

[@Shiro46AV]

"Be a killer with a gun so they call me a hero"

[@panzerreichusholzer9239]

YOU ALWAYS NAILED IT IN THE HEAD MR. CHOMSKY!

[@franklinsmith5914]

WOW........ Support our Policy....................... very true!!!

[@johnward6921]

Patriotism the last refuge of the scoundrel

[@rocioaguilera3613]

Yes, the ideal society for the masters is made of individuals for whom the greatest disaster of the universe is that their favorite team loses the game. They'd want us to be brainless zombies

[@angelrodartejr.9948]

Coined by our drug lord in chief, W. Bush. "A yellow ribbon, instead of a swastika." - Zack De La Rocha

[@averroes4369]

Public relations sounds like the ministry of truth

[@kepcar]

Since there was no video I closed my eyes and envisioned him standing with a mike in front of a red brick wall, like the comedian in that sitcom I used to watch alone.

[@paulsalasgutierrez911]

thank you chomsky for really helping us,

[@carlsagananarchist4644]

"I'm proud to commit acts of violence on behalf of the state.

[@bobmiller3627]

"And I sir unquestioningly support you, because I'm a good nationalist stooge."

[@noahmcclintock5866]

I'm so happy to see that Carl Sagan is an anarchist as well.

[@noahmcclintock5866]

He was also intelligent enough not to insult people who disagreed with him and misspell stuff.

[@noahmcclintock5866]

You can check your own spelling. And let me give you some advice. Instead of insulting people you disagree with, maybe show why you disagree with them and actually make an argument.

[@edwardyang8254]

You're being too kind. "acts of violence" = "genocide" half of the time and "enslavement" the other half.

[@TheJesus318]

So relevant right now with the "I'm behind the badge" counter-protesters

[@Joeniermancollectionco]

Its relevant today because we are all polarized. "The bewildered herd are a problem......distract them and marginalize them....etc"

[@johnwu222000]

"Make you scared" is so true of this country. You will submit to whatever the elite wants you to do or believe as long as you are scared.

[@jdcritchfield]

The natural extension of "Support Our Troops" is to correct the conditions that lead them to signing a recruitment contract in the first place. For some people it's a "calling" or they want to follow a family tradition. For the vast majority it's the only job they can get with anything resembling proper benefits. The military can also be more of a family than some people have at home. It could be the only way that the recruit can "be a man" and make money in a male-dominated environment. If you supported the troops you'd be concerned for the person who may have been led to joining for terrible reasons. For some people it's the only way out of a dead-end situation. But often you only get mindless jingoistic lip service and those same people are unconcerned with the plight of poverty draftees and veterans.

[@workwillfreeyou]

I don't have troops. Corporations and central banks have troops. I do pay for troops. And pay dearly!

[@BulentBasaran]

Here is my slogan: Inner peace first, inner peace first! Why? Otherwise, I am too busy watching my inner turmoil to see clearly and to respond accurately.

[@souravmaji2854]

It is remarkable how the words are true in many other countries.

[@kiyoomi1278]

The time has come to preach. I can't believe how he's been right for so long. Massive respect!

[@blatherskite3009]

Chomsky nails it again. The same "support our troops" propaganda was trotted out over here in the UK during our various controversial military endeavours. Doesn't work on me, though, because I recall how "I was only following orders" didn't cut it at Nuremberg. We expected those troops to refuse to carry out immoral orders, so why should the standard be any different for our own troops?

[@steveearnshaw2216]

I grieve the loss of adolescence through the draft during the Vietnam war, tearing young men away from their families and higher education. I grieve for the children of those parents sent to fight in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the world. I grieve for the parents torn from their families. I grieve for the soldiers who now have a life experience only other soldiers will ever understand, and spend their lives questioning why. I grieve for the profiteers of war. They will never understand their lust for profit will destroy our world.

[@brock5373]

Steve Earnshaw or the children in Vietnam still being born deformed from chemicals US planes dropped and the 1 million Iraqi’s murdered by Bush & Cheney’s lies. It is weird that even while being against war, which is considered “anti-patriotic”, our instincts are still to feel more sorry for the US pilots that have nightmares from bombing villages than the actual villagers that got bombed.

[@elijahmendez4107]

@@brock5373 you can thank your awesome education system for that type of bias... where you put the rights and lives of your so called "brethen" over the rights and lives of some savage /animal in a distant land where their biggest crime was the dedication of growing and producing, at their own cost, for themselves and not for some over seas company.

[@Shifty1940]

Though I am not a Noam fan in certain areas he is absolutely right. This is hilarious from the word go. So true, so funny. Sounds like a Carlin bit.

[@colindorrans9495]

We're screwed.

[@gabe5138]

Saw a Facebook post from an account called ‘Proud to be an American’ today that read, “Should confederate history stay in our country?” Now I see what Chomsky is talking about... means absolutely nothing. Oh and by the way, the account is a Canadian marketing and media agency called Render Media.

[@tapolna]

3:00 "... The last legal victory for labor really was in 1935, the Wagner Act. After the war came the decline of unions and in fact a very rich working class culture that was associated with the unions that was destroyed ... " But they didn't go down without a fight. 1946 saw the largest mobilization of striking workers in US history. Then in 1947 the Taft Hartley Act was passed, receiving votes from members of both political parties, showing us, once again, the distance between Washington and the American people

[@Floyd308]

patriotism is OK, too much of it can blind you..

[@elijahmendez4107]

Patriotism is okay?? What about human values above patriotism

[@JuanCarlos-io4ev]

Truth.

[@joshuacoleman6245]

ty

[@spicymango92]

❤️

[@HeathWatts]

Wow, Chomsky said "Super Bowl" instead of "Big Game". He come the NFL's lawyers.

[@user1911]

do you happen to have the full speech?

[@ChristophTungersleben]

blood and prayer what a simple mountain understand

[@ianmccuaig7048]

The union is strong in the government what he is saying about the unions not having power is absurd but everything else is spot on

[@lorenzomcnally6629]

The 1937 Federal labor acts forbid government unions. Something numb fkng CHUMPsky HATES. ACADEMIC TENURE HIS JOB IS THE MOST Protected JOB IN THE WORLD. MARXISM AND KARL MARX ATE HIS CREED AND GODS. MILLIONS OF HUMAN BEINGS DIED BY MARXISM. CHOMPSKY IS EVIL MARXIST CRITICAL THEORY SATANIC SOCIOPATH INCARNATE.

[@SimoN-vf8ps]

Chomsky words ring very true looking at the past year.

[@lorenzomcnally6629]

80 years of Marxist Critical THEORY BS. HISTORY HAS PROVED AND HIS MORON TALK FOR SUCKERS WRONG HIS ENTIRE LIFE HE JUST LIES FOR A LIVING TO SUCKERS

[@petersmythe6462]

Oppose the troops!

[@polaris7314]

For me video always stops working after words: "...but they don't want people to think..." Coincidence or "coincidence"?

[@TehGnomeus]

Can someone help me find the rest of this audio? thanks

[@leoniegureghian7156]

Support them by having them w/their families who need them now & forever ... Each one of us would be a hero IF an attack is in our own country, stand up for it & not follow ezrael in doing its bidding ... The lives of our boys & girls are NOT expendable ... Enough is enough of their vain losses ...

[@jackwhitestripe7342]

back to work, our troops :)

[@TheMrExemplar]

In poland People say "bóg, honor, ojczyzna" which means "god, honour, homeland" Funny that none of these things exists But people in poland still buy this poor slogan for over 100 years

[@BronzeAgeMan1350]

Poland is better than other european countries

[@listerskat1880]

Support our oops

[@callumwebb4927]

Listers Kat If you care about them, don't send them to die in pointless wars

[@Skylark_Jones]

the best way to 'support the troops', is to not send them on a wild goose chase to risk life and limb just to 'bury bad news' eg 'approval ratings are down' or for reasons that are false. That's the way you honour the troops.

[@neonbrigador3928]

Jyargurinsk Minicyzk Kopian Menias The Un-Beholden Son Of Deberiah Yrundheitl Massuvius Krasserr For many its the sole way for them to earn an honest living or develop a successful career. Pay for their education.

[@neonbrigador3928]

***** Well that portion of those who serve isnt as large as you would think. War crimes committed by US personnel isnt by any means a common occurence. Does it happen? Absolutely. But most who serve dont have an MOS or rate that puts them in a combat role. I qualified for cryptoanalysis. Thus my job wont be anywhere near a combat zone or operation taking place.

[@neonbrigador3928]

***** You bring many valid critiques. I do deplore the US foreign policy by and large. Many of those conflicts had no basis to begin with besides a propagandized view of capitalism versus Marxism.

[@omarmahfouz5599]

Huge influence on George Carlin

[@charliec6036]

Damn

[@hugo_kruger]

“Black lives matter” another one of those terms.

[@breebw]

Africa is the new Middle East for 2017 onwards. The middle east goal is achieved - instability that will fester for years. There are 33 US special force deployments in the African nations.

[@baz9628]

Support the foot soldiers of corporate America: over here; over there; everywhere, for the yanks are coming , the yanks are coming and it won’t be over till it’s over over there 🇱🇷

[@gfarrell80]

USA! USA!

[@deputydog7669]

don't die for more expensive fuel unsanctioned iranian oil kicks ass::)))

[@npxmnpxm]

His point, which probably is crystal clear to just about anyone who would bother to watch a Noam Chomsky video, creates profound cognitive dissonance in many Americans. My former neighbor, for one, simply could not deal with such nuance or complexity. If an issue wasn't yes/no or good/bad he literally couldn't handle it, he couldn't get his mind around it, much less discuss it. The few times we tried to discuss politics, all he could do was resort to parroting slogans he'd heard on TV or seen online. Guess who he voted for in 2016?

[@lorenzomcnally6629]

CHIMPSKY is lying Marxist economics ass hole his whole life.pure snake oil Cliches and Platitudes. Read. Thomas Sowell. His African American contemporary. Sowell dumped that Marxist BS early in life. Chompsky made a living selling Marxist Cliches for decades to Suckers.

[@Tibet2138]

OUR troops, really? Hey, i, for one, didn't know that *I* had any troops at all. Come to think of it, i'm positively certain that (a) i do NOT have any troops, and that (b) i can assure you'all, that IF i had any troops, they would be very busy doing totally-different things from what just about ALL troops everywhere are doing now. Things like stopping the real mass-murdering criminals, those in $1000 suits and with private jets, who are destroying Eaaarth ('s living communities and regenerative capabilities) and exploiting and cannibalizing the 'rest' (i.e. 99.99...%) of humankind!

[@elijahmendez4107]

If I had some made up troops, I would also send them to you to work.. your plan seems sensible enough to work.

[@manx306]

Kind of like "all lives matter"

[@zico739]

Manx30 No, it’s exactly like “All Lives Matter.”

[@johanexxxx]

Nope its like black lives matter. A slogan designed to the find and eliminate dissidents.

[@focusingbeauty]

Pro-life and pro-choice too.

[@Conscript05]

Mr Chomsky thinks the US government knows how to make sitcoms'

[@throwawayacc2618]

i thought he would start singing Support Our Troops OH! by xiu xiu. bit disappointed 😞

[@conors4430]

It’s just a bait and switch.

[@chadsimmons4496]

#doncherry learn something... Your poppy isn't supporting the troops.

[@nickjames7914]

Kind of like ... “Black Lives Matter” or “Make America Great Again”

[@brock5373]

Nicholas Novellino Black Lives Matter is a call to END normalized state murder of a population, not reinforce state murder. It’s the opposite.

[@tookiedew]

Talking shit about BLM is PR created ignorance man....US history is founded in slavery and genocide. Our jails based on holding fugitives (runaway slaves) until their masters arrive. Our first prison based on an English workhouse (collectively beginning the criminalization of the poor in America). Our founded police institutions based on protecting property (slave patrols), protecting property against union/labor strikes, protecting property against anti-racist movements. And still, there is this tendency to continue militarizing the police further, and continue mass incarceration within the paradigm of our US prison industrial complex (a modern day form of slavery). To continue to criminalize the poor, while disproportionately affecting people of color with the war on drugs. We are truly a racialized state capitalistic society for which we are all responsible for understanding and to try and change this shit. Civil Rights doesn't stop at 1965. The fight for real freedom and democracy will not stop! Corporate masters live in fear from this notion, let alone the rest we fear as individual humans.

[@catsaresocute650]

That's such a horrible conceptualistaion. I mean people can think as far as they can and many don't have the ability to understand complex prosesses, what is why work towards making them not by telling them *what is happening* but by *helping them understand how the things they understand impact them and what soulutions at the present moment are yet known of* is so important to me that I put that as being the first thing I need to work on and then anything else is in the clouds and can be done later

[@clairedeiotte8898]

So our troops shouldn't have invaded Germany while hitler was ethnic cleansing ? And you speak mainly freely doing a lecture you couldn't do that in china or Korea. Unless its what they want . Without troops. ?

[@atayo490]

hes talking post 9/11 culture in support of the iraq war, obviously

[@ChristopherMyers]

He's right about slogans like "support our troops". Just like "black lives matter"

[@devannair9842]

Christopher Myers no there is a difference one was spewed by the state and the other was a call for action by people

[@ChristopherMyers]

They're both obvious statements that no one disagrees with and thus are solely intended to change the original conversation in order to demonize anyone who disagrees with false claims or methods by said people or the state (which is also people)

[@leststoner]

Christopher Myers I know a few people who disagree with the statement "black lives matter".

[@superdog797]

I know a few people who disagree that you should "support our troops"

[@brock5373]

Black Lives Matter is a grassroots call to END normalized state murder of an oppressed minority population. “Support our Troops” is a state slogan meant to reinforce state murder of foreign populations. It’s the opposite.