Noco You Suck! WATCH THIS IF YOUR NOCO GBX Will Not Take A Charge!

[@toddevans4691]

I am a fleet manager of over a hundred vans & trucks. I bought the gbx75 as a personal jump box and have used it over 50 times in 3 weeks due to the extreme cold. It is a lifesaver, have charged it only a couple times. No problems yet. Thanks for the video I will start charging it with a quarter charge left to hopefully avoid the charging issues. I bought my daughter the gbx 55 for her personal car, gives me peace of mind to know that it is there if she needs it.

[@jojocastro584]

I bought gb70 for my ram 1500 on minus 40 it's not starting at all

[@jactac879]

Many types of power packs have this sort issue, it's not just specific to Noco' jump starters. We use a lot of drone power packs which will go into hibernation if the on board battery levels drop below a certain, it's a precaution built into the pack not to completely drain the batteries to a point of no return. Power packs basically try to save a couple of volts in reserve to have a starting point, the trick is dont let it get to that stage where it wants to hibernate. Parrot drone power packs are one of the best on the market but are known for going into hibernation if run down too low or are not used for a while, the trick is knowing how to "wake" the power pack up to accept a fresh charge. This is just like the Noco issue in the video, the jump starter is protecting itself by going into hibernation, it thinks the user is draining the batteries to a point of no return and is going into hibernation to protect the batteries. It sounds to me that Noco are saying to use the car charger to slowly trickle charge the power pack out of it's sleep state and then you can use a fast charger to complete the charging, but trying to use anything to quick once the pack is hibernating will not work . I would also recommend putting the Noco jumper starter on a charge every few months even if it hasnt been used. Sounds daft but try to treat the the Noco jump starter just like your car battery, keep it charged up ! After-all , a Noco jump starter is nothing more than a battery, but its a battery that has built in protection which can sometimes be a pain in the a*se !

[@mrbigberd]

NOCO messed up here. That happens in drones because energy is precious and they have to run from 100% all the way down to almost 0% which is very hard on Lithium batteries. What NOCO *should* have done is limit the battery output from 10% to 90%. Not only does this prevent that issue completely, but it also results in the batteries lifespan getting extended by hundreds of cycles.

[@evanbreyn485]

Thank you very much for putting out this video. When this issue first started, I had a lot of customers swapping out their units with me that I sold and we just all came to the conclusion that the noco product had turned to shite. When I called noco to figure out what was going on, I got absolutely nowhere and became extremely frustrated. I ended up making the decision to quit selling their product, all of their products. Due to the fact that they have not stepped in front of this and don't seem to want to fix it, I don't see putting the noco product on my truck anytime soon. Thank you for your informative videos as I will be sharing your link with my customers who may want me to get them these products and let them be educated on their decision. As always, your videos are awesome.

[@KoonTrucking]

Thank you sir. Try it and see the results are mixed on it fixing the unit to take a charge.

[@askakojuparyciais]

hello what could you suggest instead of noco?

[@hammertime1]

JNC Battery Box.

[@cannednolan8194]

@@KoonTrucking charging with 12v worked. Will post a video. 8+ hours is. Nothing. Couple hours 12v worked.

[@1bigjohnnyd]

Thanks for the video & info . My GBX 155 wouldnt go past yellow for hours with the usb to usc cable supplied . So i tried a usc to usc cable & it seems to be charging ok . Just thought i would put that out there . Hello from IRELAND ☘️

[@GizmoCaldwell]

Thanks for this explanation. I had this issue today with my GBX45. I don't have the 12v cord but, since several comments referenced the need for higher amperage to kick-start the charging, I just plugged my laptop charger into the NOCO. Charging began immediately and was full in less than an hour. Thanks to all who added their own suggestions for getting this box going again!

[@KoonTrucking]

Glad it helped

[@CupOfJoe190]

In case anyone is finding this post with the same issue; I've had a GBX75 for a few years, and really love the device. This year, I went to use it to start up a tractor that had been sitting over winter, and had the issue everyone else does; completely dead unit that wouldn't take a charge. I tried the 12v car charger, and sadly, had no luck. I did some further digging, and discovered that the known issue here appears to be within the brain of the unit preventing charging when the battery voltage falls below a range of ~11.5v. A few people had noted that the positive battery clamp and the USB-A output (not the USB-C that you use for charging) ground were directly tied to the battery and allow you to bypass the brain and force a charge into the battery. I grabbed a multimeter and did some testing, and sure enough; with the positive lead clamped into the red battery clamp, and the negative probe on the 4th pin of the USB output port; I was showing ~3v of power. I took an old USB-A cable, cut the other end off, and repeated the test, in my case, there were 3 cables in a jacket and 1 not; the cable without the jacket was the ground and showed the same 3v as the pin on the unit. Some USB-A cables will have the ground in a black jacket. I took a 12v trickle charger, set to winter/maintenance low-output mode; and connected the positive lead to the red clamp, and the negative lead to the bare wire on the cut end of the USB cable. I was able to force a trickle charge into the unit; and after ~10 minutes of charging found the unit would power on. This got enough juice into it that I was able to remove the trickle charger and hacked USB cable, and switch back over to the USB-C charger and the device is now taking a charge again. Time will tell if it holds a charge or lasts, but it at least seems to be back to life again. A few notes; hot-wiring the power like I did bypasses a lot of the brains in the unit and is NOT how you want to fully charge the unit. The brain in this unit does cell balancing between the 4 LiOn cells that you really want for battery health and safety. I would only use this method to get enough charge into the unit to power it on; giving the brain enough power to resume normal charging via the controller. Additionally, depleted LiOn batteries are inherently dangerous. LiOn batteries are known to "fail to flame" and the work above should be done with that caution at the front of your mind. Do it outside or somewhere safe. Have a fire extinguisher or means to put out an electrical fire handy. Dont leave the device rigged the way I've described unattended. Babysit it for the forced charge, and then for the first re-charge to ensure you dont have a disaster on your hands.

[@leonardgordon1748]

I bought one of the X for my daughter to keep in her truck. I appreciate you providing this information. These are supposed to be your backup when you need them.

[@stephensmith7322]

Thank you for your video. Your suggestion worked for me. My neighbor had the GBX45 and it was behaving exactly as you described. It would not charge past the 2nd red light. I plugged it into my car's cigarette lighter for 15 minutes and removed the Noco and put it on a normal cellphone charger in the house. I looked at my Noco cigarette charger adapter and noticed that the output was 5vdc with 2amp. The wall charger that I was using had an output of 5vdc, 700milliamps. My neighbor's wall charger had an output of 5vdc, 1amp. I was lucky and found another adapter with an output of 5vdc, 2amp. That 2amp output really makes a difference and charges the Noco much faster. I feel safe to use the 2amp charger because it is equal to the output of the Noco cigarette lighter adapter. I have a GB40 and used it to charge my cellphone. This action drained the Noco very low. Using the 2amp output wall charger, it took 3 1/2 hours to start from one red light to full charge. That same charge using the 700 milliamp charger took 8 to 10 hours.

[@lucky15driver]

I own a GBX55 and have used it about 8 times with a recharge after every use. Fortunately it has worked every time I used it. It does take forever to recharge without the 60watt charger. Thanks for the info. I have the GB40 in my wife’s and parents cars and they work great. Noco should step up and make this issue right on the GBX line. Great Video!

[@ingramleedy]

Ok. I thought it would this solution was crazy and would never work. BUT. I was having this problem!! I was so frustrated and mad that I thought this device was going to be junk!! So I charged from the car for 15 minutes and it went past 25% and then I moved to the inside charger and got 100%!!! You saved it!! Thank you for this video. Wow!!

[@chodson65]

Excellent information. I bought the GBX 55 6 months ago. I would have got the non x if I seen this video. Thank you

[@bamaborn74]

GREATLY appreciate the knowledge! I was just about to purchase a GBX155. Now I will get the GB150.

[@drewtechschoice2797]

And this is why we don’t sell the GBX anymore just the GB. Me and Matt also asked the noco guys at sema and they played dumb… Good move on putting the light on it clay 💪

[@michaelsharpe3946]

The reason I have a GBX155 is my GB150 quit taking a charge so this is nit a new problem

[@Simms1987]

Just sent the GBX155 back to amazon. I run a small auto shop and roadside company. The thing was great for about 23 cars and then all of a sudden it just stopped turning on. Ive had 2 gb70's and a GB150, big time money makers ..and that volt meter on the 150 is HUGE a plus... wish they all had a volt meter.. the X series is definitely flawed internally!!!!!

[@carlosw1687]

Maybe the GB series might have the same problem if the internal battery is allowed to go low enough. However, given that the GB series only provides 3 seconds of power, there's only a small risk of it going low enough to become a problem. I have a GB 40 and never ever had a problem charging it. But now I will be careful

[@Rome_504]

I know I’m late, but the GB series does have a charging issue too. I just replaced my wife’s old/new gb70. I said old/new purposely because I bought it to stay in her car for just in case. Because I had to put a brand new battery in her car, and I got the jump starter for emergency, but she never had to use it til recently, but she let it die, and we couldn’t charge it at all.

[@mosthated8190]

I have two GB40 for each one of my cars for 4 years now. They’ve been good to me and still continue to work. Last year I was dealing with a short in one of my vehicles and was constantly draining my battery and I kid you not I used it every day , several times a day for approximately 30 days! So I’ve definitely used them and they’ve held up great.

[@theociba3762]

Mine also bailed me out 2-3 times a week for over three months due to a battery well past its prime. The GB40 has been awesome to me. I believe it's close to or over 5 years old, and still requires a charge no more than 2x per year, and even then it's barely needed.

[@4seeableTV]

How often were you charging it during those 30 days?

[@justforkiks29]

Clay they sell a 56 watt rapid charger for the gb line of packs and a 65 watt rapid charger for the gbx line of packs. Claims 5x faster charging times over the included cables. Might be worth looking into to keep the packs above that minimum charge to avoid the issue.

[@richm9460]

So I come across a dell laptop charger with a type C output, and much to my amazement it charged my GBX55 from one light to fully charged in just 20 minutes where it would normally take all day to charge that model with your run of the mill phone charger!

[@carlosw1687]

I have the GB 40 and as soon as I use it even just one time then I proceed to charge it fully. In addition to that, I give it a charge once every month even if I have never used it. I think it's a good practice to do so in order to keep the charger always ready and avoid it's internal battery going too low because self discharge is normal. Another advice: I avoid storing my GB 40 inside my car all the time because where I live temperature goes high up to 52 degrees Celsius inside the car. Yes I have put a thermometer 🌡️ inside of my car and in springtime and during summer the temperature inside my car can go as high as that. So put a thermometer with maximum and minimum detection inside your car the whole year place it under the shadow inside your car so the sun doesn't hit the thermometer. Watch the maximum temperature. Noco warns never to allow the starter to go as hot as 40 degrees Celsius

[@tiberianexcalibur]

That just defeats the purpose of this jump starter. You’re better off getting a pair of jumper cables and ask for someone nearby to help jumpstart.

[@carlosw1687]

​@@tiberianexcalibur I disagree. I always bring my NOCO when I'm going long distance drive or going on vacation. Also I keep an eye on my battery and if I notice it is going low then I do something about it

[@tiberianexcalibur]

@@carlosw1687 so you only get it for vacation purposes and probably keep it at home 95-99% of the time? Sorry I don’t know what your usual year round schedule is.

[@jactac879]

I just purchased a 65w USB C charger off Amazon for £18.99 it took my GBX45 from one red LED one the charging LED's to fully charged (Solid Green LED) in 45 mins, cant moan about that ! I also tried a few other chargers, a cheap basic phone charger, an Apple phone charger and the Noco USB C cable that was supplied with the booster, plugged straight into our Apple desktop keyboard, all 3 started charging the GBX45 straight away, but it was only the 65w charger off Amazon that lit up the fast charge LED on the booster. So for me everything works as it should.

[@pbr549]

You solved the problem. When you use the battery connect to the cigarette lighter the NOCO goes into rapid charge mode. After 20 minutes the batteries and circuits would use the lower power charging. Thanks for the video. You saved me 350 bucks.

[@KoonTrucking]

Thanks for the info

[@Tschida2004]

You can easily bypass the BMS (Battery Monitoring System) of the jump pack and put enough of a charge into the batteries to get it to start taking a charge again. Depleting any lithium/Lead acid battery to far will cause this issue of not taking a charge it is a safety function of the device or also known as a dummy mode so house fires don't start.

[@nick09000]

Thank you bro, this was so helpful. Mine wasn’t changing and I did what you said and work perfect, after 10 minutes stared charging. 👍🏾

[@davidflores5693]

Where u get the car charger

[@dustinnorman3499]

I had two gb150 that quit charging one warrantied and the last one not. I took it apart and they have a 3 cell lithium battery that’s only 11.1v nominal and barely over 12v fully charged. So I starred looking for another option and found Goodall jump packs. They are more expensive but worth it especially if you jump diesels or things that are completely dead

[@richardupinya6351]

I read all about this before I bought my gbx55 but I figured it might have been due to user error or that noco had it sorted out by then. Well today, my unit stopped taking a charge. Stone cold dead, can’t bring it back. It had 2 bars left when I plugged it in. It has 3 weeks left under warranty. We’ll see how they handle it. No one to blame but myself, I should’ve listened.

[@LifeofaCarnivore]

Had the same issue I have GB 150 never had issue great box. I recommended GBX to my work mates now one has already needed sent back for not charging. Thanks for video info Clay have Happy Blessed New Year

[@JamesDiaz-v7h]

My GB150 only lasted 2 years before it stopped charging

[@RainbowDashie]

Man, this is such an easy fix for these... I bought a GBX55 with a "dead battery" and no power at all even though I had a 65-watt charger. I fixed mine in like 10 mins by taking the unit apart (you will need a special screwdriver to get the unit apart.), I alligator clipped my bench power supply to it on 10v at low amps like 1 or 2 for like 5 mins to get the volts up on the battery (unclipped the bench supply) and then I plugged in the fast charger and it started to charge normally I left it for about 2 hours and it was finished. This is caused by what I can see might be a BMS issue, it lets the battery drop too far down in volts before cutting off to save the battery from going under 9v. I tested mine the next day by chance I left my lights on and it worked flawlessly. these units are tough you just have to know how to test them to see if they can be recovered. I will be looking to buy more of the GBX units to test this on. I really like them!

[@KoonTrucking]

Noco should fix the issue especially since they know it is a problem but they continue to ignore the problem, that's the bad part.

[@RainbowDashie]

@@KoonTrucking I know but I would personally rather keep stuff out of landfills if I can manage! Just doing my part!

[@colindgrant]

​@@RainbowDashie Yep, me too. Lots of equipment I depend on everyday was on its way to a landfill (and in some cases pulled back out!) To augment what you said, for anyone watching here... I just ran into this on a GBX45. No lights, no response to any button. Using a USB-C 20V PD capable 'fast' charger, my in-line USB-C meter showed 5V, meaning no power delivery negotiation, and no current flowing into it. I opened the case slightly to where I could access the negative battery cable that goes directly to the battery. I connected my bench power supply to that internal negative cable, and the regular positive output that would normally go to the clamps. I took it really slow and charged at 100ma up to 9 volts, initially targeting 3V per cell, on assumption it was a 3s pack. It turned out to be 4s, so that's actually 2.25V per cell, but that was enough! I closed it back together and the power button lit up the power gauge. At this point I switched to USB-C charging. I wanted to switch over to charging through the BMS as soon as possible. It knows its own limits and monitors cell balance. Lithium chemistry batteries can be safely revived from 0V, but from everything I've read, the starting charge current should be kept low until ~2V per cell, then you can up the current.

[@jimplatt5815]

@@colindgrant THANK YOU! My GBX55 just died. Bought it in November 2022, so not that old. Worked very well starting several vehicles. Recharged it once. Went to boost a flat dead battery in a lawn tractor yesterday, it worked fine, and now it wouldn't work at all today. I searched for the four flashes of the red light during charging, found this, and just now started charging my pack. I'm at 70mA, but it climbed to 8.8 in only a few minutes. It started at 5.4V. I think this will work quite well and I appreciate your comment! Those triangle screws were TighT!. There are 6 of them, hidden under the rubber bumpers on the back. Peel it open slowly until you see the black wire very near the big red wire on the outside. One big black, one small. There's a yellow wire right near all of them. Both black ones go to the same point, so poke through the small insulation to make contact. It's only 100mA, so a T pin will work. I appreciate your efforts to keep stuff out of the landfill, as well as save me from having to mess with the warranty.

[@colindgrant]

@@jimplatt5815 Nice! Glad it was helpful. I actually posted a video of the process on my channel too.

[@dawnpeterson3215]

HOWEVER. At work we use Noco. Thanks for the video. Worked on mine so far. I'll try the rest today. We need them like air....

[@Maxus005]

I ordered the GB155X, but luckily, I was able to cancel it and ordered the GB150 instead. Thank you for saving me from a future headache!

[@KoonTrucking]

Good choice!

[@thesoulbrother8636]

@@KoonTrucking Where would you recommend buying the GB150 from? Thank you.

[@KoonTrucking]

@@thesoulbrother8636 all about the same. I’ve heard that noco doesn’t warranty Amazon but I don’t know that for a fact. They have a 12 month warranty on them.

[@thesoulbrother8636]

@@KoonTrucking Thank you for your reply sir. Have a wonderful evening. Cheers🍸

[@jefftovani5535]

I own 2 -g b70s, and 1-gb150 for 3 years never once had issues with charging, b ought the heavy duty plug in adapter to charge the gb 150 faster, because it takes a lot of time to charge with the one that came with it!! I really like gb series , my cousin bought gbx series, 155, and already sent it back, to noco, junk, had problem from get go!!! Great vidio to educate the public about the issues with gbx series, keep up the great videos !!!!

[@KoonTrucking]

I know man my old gb70 is at least 5 years old ! My gb150 is at least 3-4 and still going. They are definitely better.

[@calebsjunkremovalservice7593]

Thank you I have a gb150 and gave 3 gb45s for Christmas gifts this year.

[@b0bsaget007]

I've got a GBX45 for personal use, and it's never given me any issues. I do have good quality USB-C PD chargers - both in my car and in the house - that are able to give the jump pack the full 60W that it can take in. It can recharge from empty to full in under half an hour.

[@bryantjrobinson]

I have a gbx something. I use mine a lot, however mine would not charge one day. After talking to my snap-on guy for a bit, Found out that noco makes a wall wart charger, and that actually lets it charges back to full. Why did noco not put this in their instructions or website?

[@379insk]

The trouble with any of these lithium boxes is in extreme cold like we get in Saskatchewan they tend to fall on their face.

[@amysocha8623]

Thank you so much for this video! It totally worked charging it in the car. Really appreciate you!

[@KoonTrucking]

Glad it worked

[@johnwalton9978]

Cheers Pal, you have just answered my issue. John UK.

[@Hubjeep]

One advantage of the GBX is the improved battery clamps, they narrow down to a point to attach easily to smaller batteries..

[@KoonTrucking]

I covered that in my original video where I compared the GB vs GBX kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJOWkn-kh7BpncUsi=M3Bxc18Pd8W0lvVz

[@IndyStreetRacer]

I purchased a GB40 earlier this year. The first time I used it was great. I've tried to use it 2-3 more times and failed each time. I think I will reach out to Noco to see what they recommend. Thanks Clay for the video.

[@KoonTrucking]

Sounds like a warranty claim to me before the warranty period ends!

[@carlosw1687]

I have the GB 40 and as soon as I use it even just one time then I proceed to charge it fully. In addition to that, I give it a charge once every month even if I have never used it. I think it's a good practice

[@kevintoulytrades]

Experiencing the same issue with the GB40 battery not jump starting a dead car battery. Unfortunately its been a few months since I bought this and havent had to jump start something until now and it doesn’t work. 😢

[@godonjeffjeff8963]

Here's my experience between gb and gbx series. The gbx will not charge with your puny 3 amp phone wall charger usb jack. The litterature states you need a 60 watt usb wall outlet ! The gbx charges well on mostly automotive systems that are running at 13 or 14 volts with a good alternator. The main problem with ALL nonco boosters is that if you let it go too discharged below a certain level , they will never recharge again . Sometimes you can bring them back thru cigarette lighter charging. Also that usb charger port is fairly weak and wears out fast. Keep them charged regularly and dont run them till empty

[@donraptor6156]

You would think with something so expensive they would put a battery discharge limiter on it..

[@robertandreoli9764]

Thanks Clay I have Gbx 75 up here in New Hampshire use it all the time going to keep eye on it 👍

[@davidwalle5025]

Good video. My noco purchases are on hold now. Will continue to use the older style jump boxes.

[@KoonTrucking]

The GB series is still great

[@davidwalle5025]

@@KoonTrucking will still wait until gbx problems are solved

[@BarefootBill]

Have a gb50, had it yrs now. Never had an issue with mine and use it for all kinds of stuff. I also have gbx55 and you do have to keep battery above a certain voltage. The cigarette/power port does the trick, connects directly to the battery so you can inject some gogo voltage into gbx battery and get above the nogo voltage.

[@EK99_00]

Lucky I found your video. I was about to buy the gbx55. Thanks.

[@rgrkim]

me too, just cancel my order

[@dustbat]

Well, well, well. I just opened my new box and started watching videos on how to use it. Now, I guess I bought the wrong one.Mine says GBboost XL. I did hook it up to a charger and it seemed to be charging but also came fully charged. Won't know where I am at until it needs recharging. Man, thought this was the best. By the time I find out I will be out of warranty.🦇

[@CubaLou1]

Glad I saw this second video before purchasing it. I’ll still buy it but I’ll make sure and get the extended 2 year warranty with it. Thanks for the heads up.

[@Hubjeep]

3:25 Yes, the 12v cigarette lighter cord charges the GBX jumper packs MUCH faster than the USB-C. So I could see this helping. I've discharged mine (using it to charge my cell phone) down to one red light and it charged fine with the USB-C. I have the GBX45 and GBX75.

[@efrainarzuaga]

I want to share something i just notice. I just purchased the GBX 75 and right of the box. I started using a Samsung block 5V to charge the unit. Now I noticed that immediately after I plugged the block, the GBX went into protect mode then I grabbed my iPhone block and it did the same thing. Then I found an old Samsung block between 5v to 9v and so far is charging. I haven’t tried the lighter charger that it came with but I think this unit I’m referring to the GBX 75 need the proper voltage going in to them so it can charge them the proper way. I also saw on Amazon a Noco original 65W wall charger so I will order that one to see if any positive reactions. I’ll keep you guys posted.

[@s1ggy]

This worked for me. Unfortunately the 12v adaptor plugged into the car lighter port, for 15 minutes didn't fix it. Plugging the noco USB cable into a Samsung charging block, allowed it to once again resume charging. Thanks for your comment.

[@aaupstateny]

I just purchased the GBX75 after watching one of your videos. I always read the manuals of anything im not familiar with…… not sure if this will help with the issue but the owners manual states to power on the device prior to or during charging or it will drain the unit. I still haven’t used it but will be using it this week to jump an old vehicle. It’s in the owners manual under charging towards the end of the section. The unit maybe on at the time your plugging it into your vehicle hence validating these instructions.

[@rinnemichelle946]

When u got yours, were u able to charge it. I put mine “on” before starting to charge it to my laptop, but the lights r not blinking indicating it’s charging

[@aaupstateny]

@@rinnemichelle946 Yes it charged. Although I still haven’t used it yet.

[@federico02072]

I'm just the average guy and was looking to buy one because if a car in the driveway doesn't crank over, i can just pull this out and get it going. now I'm leaning towards the GB150. This way, I have no issues if I pull it out and not charging

[@chrisdixon7318]

thanks for the video! the jump box works great but i have had nothing but trouble charging my GBX75. Going to try this method

[@StevenAndrews]

My biggest beef with these is the damn led light. Twice now, it's been turned on by something pressing on it or hitting it when in the trunk and it's run the battery down. Having trouble getting it to charge up this time and I found your video...using a PD charger so I hope it fixes it. I'm going to 3d print a couple of raised rings over the power and light buttons to hopefully keep it from turning on.

[@paulroberts9704]

Great point the light turning and draining the power, could be as simple as that. I'm keeping mine in the box a made some small bars from foam to stop it turning on accidentally. Hope this cures the problem

[@georgecypher4568]

They have everyones money and dont give two shits about the consumer or else they would have told you a fix for the jump box. Happy New Year Clay !

[@selmoney6109]

Just wanted to make a update on a comment I made noco sent me a new one even though it was out of warranty hopefully this one works when I need it

[@chasesimmons6451]

Bought my GBX155, my first NOCO product to ever own due to a trusted coworker’s recommendation. His charges fine…mine has this charging problem. If I keep unplugging and re-plugging it in once daily…eventually it will take a charge. Sometimes it takes 2 days…sometimes a week.

[@KoonTrucking]

That sucks I would send it in for warranty. You shouldn’t have to do that. My GB150 has been great. I have an old GB70 that’s at least 5 years old and it’s worked like a champ and still going … surprisingly

[@alexhendrickson6124]

Thank you so much for making this video. My GBX fell below half charge and now will not recharge. I’m going to try the battery adapter option. Thanks

[@canyondan]

The GB series have issues also. The on/off switch fails as well as the flashlight switch. Apparently they are using inferior materials in the construction of these things. I just ordered some surface mounted device switches and gonna try and fix mine. Thanks for the info.

[@threeday0ldburrito956]

Gb70 excepted a charge with the 12v adapter for the cigarette lighter. Thank you for the video buddy

[@KoonTrucking]

No problem 👍

[@timmay2k]

I have the start all jump pack for my 579. Thing is a beast 10,000 amps. Used it 3 times still at 100 percent.

[@bearingthebrunt3650]

Wow just watched one of your previous vids, maybe I'll think twice about buying the new X series. Thanks for this update

[@raymondromero4558]

I have both gb and gbx! And I haven’t had a problem with my jumpers. What I have seen is my number of jumps aren’t accurate anymore. Not a big deal. I’ve used the gbx to jump start stone cold dead isx15, dd15, mx13 … I’ve had to use both at one point also … i love my nocos I stand by them regardless Even if one day they fail or go bad I’d buy more with no hesitation I’m actually looking into buying the gb252 since the gb500 is out of my budget I have used the gb 500 and let me tell you that is one bad mamajama !!!

[@JunkBondTrader]

I honestly think the problem is user error a lot of the time people hook them up backwards, or in the wrong order, or they get it wet, or they have them both connected and they knocked the red off, and then just reattach the Red without removing the black first. Stuff like that. Or they remove them in the wrong order. It's easy to mess up one of these steps.

[@mattr0815]

Haha, good one.

[@oldman3388]

Clay I have looked at the noco but some say it is all that great in the COLD I have the booster pac for about 4 years and does really good in the cold run it down to dam near dead and no problem charging back up thats after last week temps of of -21 BRRR. 🔧🔧🔧🔧

[@jasonvredenburg4839]

Appreciate you calling out the bs clay

[@sl67350]

Not one to comment but I just bought a GBX75 after the heavy blue point died. Well, I’ve tried from Thursday to now Sunday to charge this thing up and still nothing! When I say it was brand new, I peeled the plastic off of it. I’m a bit disappointed. I was very happy to see this video with the hack for the cigarette “hack” but after 3 times, it still hasn’t worked for me. I’m giving it one more go then I’m ready to blow it up! I needed to move a couple cars this weekend but guess that’s not happening.

[@KoonTrucking]

Supposedly 15 mins in the cigarette lighter plug will get it going enough for the regular charger to take a charge

[@sl67350]

@@KoonTrucking Tried the cigarette hack again this morning. I left it plugged up to a car on a battery charger. It was plugged in for at least 30 mins. Still nothing. This thing is going back. Just a follow up…I bought another while I was messing with this one. It came in, looked exactly the same, packaging wise. As soon as I plugged it up, it started charging. This is how it’s supposed to work. Guess I just got a dud? Either way, I’ll be keeping an eye on the battery level.

[@obfuscated3090]

I've used Clore JNC 660s for many years after using one at the used car lot where I wrenched. Clores warranty support is outstanding and they sell parts. My oldest was from 2016 and I'd still have it if I'd not forgot to bring it back from a salvage yard run.

[@kevinchasm4430]

Yep!

[@saabaru007]

I just bought (2) GPX 55's. One for me and one for my boss. One of units would only charge using an high output charger and the other one would charge with any USB-C charger. After watching this video, I'm going to return the GPX's and get the GP series.

[@anthonytilli8693]

Confirmed that my GBX 55x will only recharge with my USB-c (60w 20v) charger and cable. It will not recharge with the supplied USB-a. I have not tried the cig lighter cable yet but plan to. Thanks for bringing this to my attention as I have been lucky enough to not need the boost. However, it did need a recharge after sitting over a year.

[@loganhayes6494]

Once again you saved me a headache! Thanks for the video Clay was torn between the two then 5 minute video later the decision was made clear! Really liked some of the updates like usb-C and better clamps but NOT the major flaw.. Until streamlight goes usb-c I will always have a micro in the truck anyway!

[@HarryBallsss]

Wow!! Thanks so much for the recommendation and making us aware of this issue. This is actually real crummy news. Was going to order the gbx155 later this week. Def gonna hold off.

[@KoonTrucking]

get the gb series and you won't have issues.

[@HarryBallsss]

@@KoonTrucking appreciate the advice and reply very much!!

[@gucciserg8093]

Hello, are these issues fixed now? I see the video is somewhat old now. Please let me know if the issues have been fixed. I’m looking to buy a couple of GBX45s, GBX55s, GBX75s and 1 GBX155 for Black Friday. Some for my vehicles and for family as gifts. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

[@KoonTrucking]

apparently not, If you look through the comments almost daily someone leave a comment that says they had lost a coco due to it not taking a recharge

[@SteveSnowman]

Good info, thanks. I have a GB150 and a GBX75. I have (however) never allowed both of these boxes to go below a 50% charge state but good to know though. - N Idaho -

[@finnsnracks2085]

Which box do you recomend?

[@SteveSnowman]

@@finnsnracks2085 it’s tough to say. The GB150 is quite large and heavy and I don’t prefer it’s in/out charging ports with USB std/micro. No USB-C. If I were to have just one box I’d recommend the GBX75 cause it’s smaller and lightweight. I just don’t like that it doesn’t have 12V jack for power out, only std USB/C.

[@SteveSnowman]

@@finnsnracks2085I edited my comment to ya. Sorry for the original “red-herring “.

[@ozzynmyrtle]

I'm sure you've herd of/used JNC jump boxes. they are a lot bigger but brother they last!

[@kylemootz8798]

The jnc boxes are my daily go to in a shop environment. I have some nocos for emergency use in my vehicles, I feel that's we're they are better suited.

[@raymondromero4558]

Those are alright, I live by and stand by noco no matter what! I used inc before they are way to heavy to dumpster semi trucks and most of the time they don't even start a isx 15 now my nocos gb155 does start them

[@martygordyan9717]

Wish you would have made this before i bought the GBX. I am on my 3rd one. 1st was an open box buy on Amazon. No go. I wasn't thinking it would. 2nd brand new out of the box would not charge. 3rd brand new out of the box...so far so good.

[@KoonTrucking]

I don’t know if it is a quality control thing with Noco or what but my older GB70 is still going and it’s at least 5-6 years old. Guess they made a big splash and people knew they were good then started slipping but the GBX is a big let down on the recharge issue. Guess you can use it and charge it after each use or leave it on charge when you aren’t using it but that’s a pain. I leave mine in my truck for “when I need it”

[@qouavang3646]

So glad I got the gb series.... whew I bought the gb70 on black Friday at mills fleet farm for 120$

[@dingznthingz]

During this extreme cold snap we just had, I went to use my Banditt jump box I bought from Amazon a few years ago. The damn thing swelled up and split the case! I only used this jump box once before and charged it once every six months. Of course, Amazon no longer sells this p.o.s. brand. I spent quite a bit of time reviewing jump boxes. A good, reliable, and unbiased source that tested many of these jump boxes is the guy on KZbin who goes by the name of Project Farm. This guy is the go to guy when it comes to testing all kinds of stuff on the market. He does not get paid by any manufacturer. Anyhow, his test results and every other test result shows the NOCO GB40 is the best jump box for the money. NOCO came out on top of every size jump box that is sold. I looked at a GBX 45 over the GB40 because it had a little more power. I did not know what the difference between the GB and GBX was until I saw your video. I decided to buy the GB40 because it had almost a perfect rating with over 90,000 reviews on Amazon. Now, I am glad I did. The last thing I need is another faulty jump box when I am in dire need of using one.

[@mikespeiran1230]

I have that no-recharge issue with my GB40 - it's 3 years old so hope your fix will work for it since I don't have a warranty

[@Supra_Mickey]

One thing I learn from other techs who have this charger is to let the jumper actually die because they would leave it on the charger constantly and it would end up killing the battery

[@USAFreedom4Ever]

That’s what I did kept it in the back of the vehicle plugged into a USB so it would get charged every time the car was running to make sure it was ready to go. Wish it had a smart charger.

[@backpfeifengesicht]

My theory - I think you can mostly avoid this problem if you use a PD 3.0 compatible, 60W or greater USB-C charger (like for a laptop or a newer high end phone) from day to day. Same idea as charging it using the 12V cable (which I think has a PD 3.0 output). I've run this thing down to flat several times and have had no issues charging it up like normal, no funny business, using my normal USB-C laptop charger which I know is PD 3.0. On the other hand, I've definitely had it sit there and spin forever, not taking a charge, if I plug it into a random phone charger.

[@onefiniteplanet]

Like your theory, although I doubt the cigarette lighter cable supports PD and is instead fixed at 12v. PD should also support 20v and the latest spec even provides for 48v. I think if you have 20v available, then it can be far, far more reliable than trying to work from the old 5v low current of typical of USB-A plug packs.

[@frankm5234]

Your theory is completely correct. All x boost will only fast charge with at least 60w so the charger at 12v with 5a will provide 60w. I. Picked up a 100w anker prime and 100w usb-c to usb-c cable and it works flawlessly, and far less expensive then the noco one they offer. In fact, if you search utube (how to charge a noco x boost), they have a video explaining this. My issue is they don't state that the charger MUST be 60 watts or more to function, and my guess is they didn't because they didn't want to have to include it.

[@flormaria7305]

Agreed

[@JunkBondTrader]

​@@frankm5234that's weird because I use a wall charger that I got from the supermarket for $12, so just a very basic charger, and the supplied micro USB that comes with the 45x. It charges up just fine, takes about 3 hours. The 12 volt accessory power outlet adapter also works fine in the car.

[@larryborkstrom3580]

Even when it's charges it didn't have the guts to jump in fridgeed cold a jnc 770 works best in cold month's of Colorado just have to look before you hook it up the nice thing about the Norco is that can hook it backwards and not hurt anything hope they come out bigger heaver pack I consider one

[@toolman67]

Wife wanted to go with the GB40, but I went with the GBX45 since it has USB-C over micro-USB. Hope I didn't choose the troublesome series.

[@MiguelCatch22]

How has it been?

[@toolman67]

@@MiguelCatch22 good so far, still fairly new.

[@YourMom-ro1ig]

I bought a gbx155 less than 6 months ago and it won’t take a charge right now.

[@floydwilliams3321]

Thanks for the video man. I’m not sure which one I have but I’ll be checking in the morning. Thanks.

[@galaxiepete]

Ran into the same issue on the GB box.

[@AidenParsons]

Definitely the 12v cigarette charger is like 10x faster than a normal micro usb. I’ve got the GBX150 for almost a year now. Really need to check the output of the charger base and make sure the base and cable are ‘fast charging’ helps but car charger works quick for me.

[@defenderovich1898]

Do you mean a regualar cigarette lighter charger or a 65W and plus cigarette lighter charger? I use a 95W car charger and it charges my GBX55 like a champ. Very quick! Not sure if a regular car charger would do it.

[@wolphin732]

I'm glad I got the 12V charger for mine... so far not needed to boost. I also picked up a 65W wall charger, I wonder if it needs a high wattage to reset the battery to get it going? Mine also has USB-C charge port not a micro USB, which may be a fix to the issue.

[@cannednolan8194]

I have two gb70 2000a. These are my third and fourth. In a less then a year. The first two where fully charge but wouldn’t boost. I would plug it into the vehicle but not sure the time. Then would plug into usb. Then they would have zero out put through the jumper cables but be fully charged. Both did this at about 3 months. My newest one about two months and on its fourth charge. At two bars with usb. Got pulled down to one bar. From full on a vehicle with a dead or shot battery. It’s been charging about eight hours and is still on one bar. I have a 120v to 12v converter will try that in the morning if it’s stuck at one bar still. I bought this one from my battery wholesaler will be bring a battery in so will talk to them if it doesn’t take a charge. I like the units but they got some problems which is why I never go above to gb70 don’t feel they are worth it. I can start almost anything with two gb70s hooked up. I have idea that I would like to make if one of these units craps out. Not sure if I can do it but if so would make these units way better.

[@paulsimmons4794]

I purchased a GBX45 for just the zero turn and motorcycles back in December. Took out of box and charged inside the house with the supplied usbc cable and an iPhone dewalt charge block. Took a long time to charge it. Used it today for the first time. Toro zero turn and it drained the 45. I did have to crank the mower for around 15-20 second before it started but I never expected it to drain the jump pack. I consider it junk. It’s been on charge for around 8 hours now and only blinking on the third light. Not sure it’s worth the power consumption to charge it.

[@KoonTrucking]

Junk

[@onefiniteplanet]

The problem is mostly the USB-A to USB-C cable supplied in the box which suggests a typical USB-C plug pack is enough, and often it is not! The traditional USB-A is only 5volts, but USB-C can be 20 volts. When charge is low, you need a higher power, preferably at least 60W and 20v, USB-C power source. The cigarette lighter cord provides a USB-C cord rated at 65W which makes it better but it may not provide 20v in which case still not perfect.

[@samuelw.3992]

I personally like my startall 10,000 an 5000 boxes. Only thing that sucks about those are the $$$ but their a tank. An work like a badass.

[@jodenmel1]

Every time I try to charge my truck using my GB X Box. It starts my alarm going off can you tell me why. Thank you for your videos and very helpful

[@jamesquinn7732]

Glad I just bought one via Snap-on rep. Thanks for the advice! Happy New Year to ya.

[@KoonTrucking]

Happy new year!

[@peterchristlieb]

Mr Clay, I have the GBX 155 and haven’t had the problem as of yet. I’ve started more than a few bobtails and industrial diesels with it but it goes back on the charger after every use. Hope mine doesn’t shit the bed as it has done everything I’ve asked it to do so far.

[@bradhelfrich6602]

Yes, but how did you charge it out of the box?

[@peterchristlieb]

I charged mine with the fast charger that it came with and it worked great until the guys got hold of it my day off. They ignore the perfectly good 200A battery charger on wheels because they don’t want to plug in an extension cord and thought they were somehow going to do repeated starts on multiple vehicles with the 155. Needless to say the only way I got it to come back was to leave it plugged into the 12v socket in the car overnight. Seems to be fine now but I pull it out and charge it once in a while in case I need it.

[@derKarl_stp]

I got myself a GB 50 aprox. 2.5 years ago and this summer I had issues charging my pack as it never showed "fully charged" but kept charging... result... after 8 hours I unplugged it and let it rest, it said it was full... 5 months later the powerbank was totally flat... and felt kinda weird... tried charging it again and after 5 minutes it showed "overheating" and didn't charge (and yes, the battery was bowing out the bottom... aka. it inflated) so I now have a dead jumpstarter with a damaged cell inside that I can't use and this was the "old series" was thinking of getting the GBX 45 (as this is large enough for my smaller vehicles in Europe) but as you said the GBX has charging issues... not sure if I will get a new one again from NOCO... it did cost me a lot to get one and when it didn't even survive 2.5 years... yeah... not the quality I expected

[@JankyDubz]

the gb500+ is insane. Jumps multiple vehicles that sit for too long.

[@markroadkillrecovery1168]

I have always charged my GB70 with the cig cord, it also has a female to plug in other items like my cig powered air compressor. That said it's now ten years old and won't quite top up now

[@glaucobrandini2996]

got the same problem on my new 155 going to try it

[@andrewdalen5119]

Thanks for the video , super informative! Was wondering about buying a jump box cause I need one living up here in MN , super cold up here , well it’s nice right now but a week ago it was purdy chili! So off subject , but we seriously need a Hamilton video! Please we miss him!

[@blueoval1979]

Clore 660

[@henryg683]

Thanks for the info on the jump pack!!!! I’m hoping you’ll be having a great New Year evening and I’ll be looking forward to seeing your amazing content next year!!!!!

[@J_R_667]

I have the gbx 155, and if you are having problems charging your jumper.. the best solution is to use your provided NOCO 65W 12V cigarette car charger. Also while doing that I suggest turning the vehicle on, and a rapid charge light will turn on.. so give it 20min and you’ll see it will start charging your jumper. Hope this helps out for those struggling with this problem.

[@J_R_667]

I know someone is going to reply “why turn the vehicle on” “that’s dumb “ I tried to just turn the ignition on while the cigarette charger was plugged but the rapid charging light wouldn’t come on.. until I actually turned the vehicle on. Also noticed depending on the year of the vehicle.. newer vehicles you’ll be able to get to this mode by turning the ignition on. So look into that. Just look for a white ⚡️status light, and you’ll see it’ll start charging after 15-20min.

[@KoonTrucking]

That’s a good suggestion as mentioned in the video. The one problem i have is my new truck doesn’t have a cigarette lighter plug in it. Only usb-a and USB-c

[@J_R_667]

@@KoonTrucking you did mention that in your video, and you are also right some newer vehicles don’t have a cig lighter port. What truck do you have?

[@younggun7901]

My GBX45 just did this the other day. Bought it a year and a week ago. Emailed them Tuesday, still haven't heard back. DAMN this is frustrating

[@upnorth5465]

I've never jumped to the gbx line strictly because they took away the voltage meter on the 150's.