Which CLASS Should YOU Play in Pathfinder 2e?

[@Ryan-jk6mg]

"The Ranger actually works in this system" Brought a tear to my eye as a 5e Ranger main.

[@9xkysR]

Ranger is an S tier dnd class, a truly top tier martial with fantastic fighting styles, core abilities and spellcasting options. Monks are the true worst class in dnd

[@Ryan-jk6mg]

@@9xkysR when i started, no. After Tasha's they are better yes. Have I seen someone go 15 lvls or more, no.

[@9xkysR]

@@Ryan-jk6mg nah, even before tashas rangers are a real solid class, since players handbook. They always had the best fighting style(archery) in the game, the best half casting spell list(goodberry, hunter's mark, fog cloud, entangle, absorb elements, pass without trace) and great subclasses(gloomstalker and hunter). rangers in dnd is one of the best martials in the game(like the paladin).

[@mj1mj3]

@@9xkysR I've only played games with rangers twice, but both times they've shown themselves to be hyper effective classes

[@Blarg6306]

Ranger got good in 5e when Gloomstalker got released in the SCAG. I had a player using the original base Ranger with Hunter subclass and he was outperformed at every turn by the other players. My Gloomstalker though absolutely wrecked in combat, exploration, and was even halfway decent in social aspects with Disguise Self. Helped that I was a Changeling too, though. But yeah, Rangers in 5e still get way too much flak when they're actually pretty good. I haven't played PF2E yet (getting it for Christmas), but I can already tell that I'm gonna be a Ranger main again! Also, monk actually looks effective here.

[@cinther]

Thank you for making the OGL 1.1 transition to PF2e easier

[@Zedrinbot]

One fun thing with investigator is to try them with weapons that are high-commitment loading weapons, or weapons with fatal die (so, rifles and pistols can be great on them). Devise a strategem, and see if you'll get that vital shot off or even crit with it. Then couple that with whatever support actions you can, and it makes them really easily able to work around needing to load weapons. Also it feels like you're reenacting that one scene from the end of Untouchables when you know you can get a critical hit at a pivotal moment.

[@AJGames1220]

Thats a really cool dynamic I had never thought of, since you know the result you essentially get to strike and then choose if you want to go through with the attack or save your other two actions for whatever else you can do.

[@thomasscroggs4410]

Oh, I'm going to steal this idea for a build soon.

[@Hesauce]

I finally convinced my group to try Pathfinder 2e, so this came at a perfect time!

[@The_Yukki]

Man I wish I could convince my group to do so, or at least find a seperate 2e group

[@ishigami04]

the same for me

[@levanquer]

Same here. Dm has been on me to join a pf campaign

[@62bitHero]

Giving pathfinder an honest shot after wotc dropping the ball and paizo making big moves!

[@erikburzinski8248]

Same

[@drawberry_jam]

Same 😁

[@Ceece20]

Same

[@victorbort8994]

Same)

[@jackwolfstang]

Same. I’ve always considered Pathfinder even before this whole thing with Wizards started but I was intimidated by how many options there were. But now I see it’s all customization and I love it. My main thing is that there’s an actual summoner class, a few of these classes are standalone classes rather than subclasses for other classes in dnd like the artificer? The alchemist is accounted for, the gunslinger is basically it’s own class and it’s the artillerist and the inventor is basically battle smith and armorer. Obviously these are all better too!

[@Ethanil]

00:00 Intro 00:57 Alchemist 01:38 Barbarian 02:18 Bard 03:01 Champion 03:37 Cleric 04:15 Druid 04:55 Fighter 05:50 Gunslinger 06:47 Inventor 07:38 Investigator 08:36 Magus 09:16 Monk 10:00 Oracle 10:50 Ranger 11:34 Rogue 12:20 Sorcerer 12:55 Summoner 13:59 Swashbuckler 14:55 Witch 15:40 Wizard 16:30 Outro

[@Ethanil]

Feel free to add to your Description to add as Chapters

[@yuvalgabay1023]

So jo worlockd sad

[@paulmaloney585]

Doing the lords work. Thanks bud

[@MrGunsnrosesfan100]

@@yuvalgabay1023 Witch is basically Warlock, at least in flavour.

[@BloodiedShingle]

Really loved how you melded thematic/narrative reasons for each class with the mechanical perspective, most characters are a variable mix of those two ingredients. As for what I would want to play (once the Sisyphean boulders of GMing and only having 24 hours in a day are gone): Mutagenist Alchemist, Paladin Champion, Ancestral Weapon Monk, Outwit Ranger, Staff Nexus Wizard, Life Oracle, Twisting Tree Magus... and like three or four different Summoners.

[@heyfell4301]

I started as a Ranger, with... mixed oppinions. I loved the flavor, but I felt like I was always doing the same things (mostly just either marking or walking, then firing once and commanding my puppy to attack), and yet i still made sure to do some creative stuff, like using my Acrobatics to jump from a crate and land behind the enemy, punching him with my big Orc hands and giving the Rogue his sweet-sweet flanking. Then, after that module was over, I switched to a Witch. Oooooh boy... I didn't know I was such a spellcaster kinda guy. Let's just put it like that: in the first session the DM allowed me to use Telekinetic Projectile to throw the Cleric's blood into the enemy (he gave me penalty to hit, but a bonus in damage just for the funzies), and I ended up one-shooting the guy. I love this game, I love the Witch class, I love my Orc.

[@blackfox2973]

In case you have not heard it today, or this week, or even this month. You. Are. Awesome. Keep up the great work. *tosses honey on the altar of NoNat1's awesomeness*

[@Nonat1s]

Thanks, boss! Always on the lookout for your algorithm pleasing comments! They make my day!

[@Delarissa]

Just a note on the Cleric, you don't have to be evil to get a Harm font, LG followers of Abadar for example could take a Harm font, same is true for CG followers of Callistria, vice versa a CE follower of Gorum can take a Heal font along with a LE follower of Abadar amongst others.

[@aralornwolf3140]

And CE Follower of Lamashtu could take heal... then again, all of her Clerics are CE in 2e.

[@bulletmagnet1038]

I spit out my drink when I heard 20 classes

[@VakovoSheggorri]

6:32 you're telling me you can ROCKET JUMP in pathfinder 2E? I'm loving this system more and more with every tidbit i learn.

[@RagingWyvern]

I loved my bard I was out healing the cleric and out dmg the wizard, just didn't have alot of life to take hits with. Was very useful in town to get discounts or find a place to eat and sleep. Could sing/play for room and board or to make extra money and bring in patrons to the bar

[@StronSlinger]

Magus brings a joyous tear to my eye. A pure spellblade through and through

[@jackboehm8408]

It sucks that it's the mathematically worst class in the game

[@Sonics1DiscordKitten]

"The ranger works!" - done, I'm sold

[@gamewrit0058]

Pausing after the Summoner section to say FFX is one of my all-time favorite games, and IDK that I can resist playing a summoner now that I know 2e has such a class!

[@Captainpigraven]

I enjoy your videos and think you do a great job. I was hoping you’d overcome your hate for the Bard in this video. Your hate didn’t show through, but you undersold it. For anyone watching this video and feeling like the Bard was glossed over as some niche, quirky alternative, consider this: The Bard is a force multiplier. The class has tools that enhances all the other classes (including the Bard’s own abilities) and de-buffs enemies, potentially during the same round. As a full caster that embraces Charisma as their class skill, the Bard makes a natural party face. That high Charisma also affords it other little benefits that most other classes won’t get, like being able to fully utilize most offensive heritage spell options throughout their entire character progression. The Bard also has the game’s largest supply of Will-based offensive/de-buffing spells, suitable in both combat and social situations, and something the otherwise powerful Primal spell list all but ignores. And unlike the otherwise very powerful Arcane spell list, the Occult list also has some healing options. The Bard is not a blaster, especially when it comes to elemental damage. Just like it’s not an overly effective martial character compared to other options. But again, he’s a force multiplier. The Bard increases everyone else’s effectiveness, and pretty efficiently. Depending on character options chosen, the Bard can also be a font of information with its Bardic Lore ability. This means that, when played as rules written & suggested, the Bard should receive the equivalent of Expert status in a potentially limitless list of Recall Knowledge topics throughout a campaign. The Bard presents a player who is comfortable sacrificing some of his or her own personal table glory in the name of better group effectiveness, both in and out of combat. While the Bard can make a great third or fourth party member, the class also makes for the ultimate fifth member, one who can boost the effectiveness of other team members no matter their respective specializations. In a game that forces good team play to survive more than its previous edition or even offerings from other companies, the Pathfinder 2e Bard is ahead of the curve and makes for a great choice for any selfless player.

[@HeatherVerhagen]

Sounds cool to me. I'm playing 5e right now and wanting to transition to Pathfinder. I love Clerics, but decided to try Celestial Warlock and Divine Soul Sorcerer so I could learn spells that weren't buffs or heals. I think I might be stuck in the healer and support role. Everyone else wants to do damage. Lol.

[@timothybartlett5493]

Thank you for this write up! My wife’s favorite 5e class is the Bard, and she was disappointed hearing Nonat1s dismissive comments about the class.

[@SolomonCaineReaper]

Unfortunately, I share a distaste for the bard, but even I thought that his write-up for them was lackluster. Not sure if I would have been able to do better for them, though. I have a couple friends who love the bard, so they could have helped me through a write-up.

[@danielbeshers1689]

I have this idea in my head for a Conrasu Armor Inventor who works with flora materials and bioelectrical microorganisms.

[@JacksonOwex]

Get that idea out of your head and onto a character sheet, and hopefully into a game as well!

[@MiningwithPudding]

I'm slowly building an Anadi Rogue. I accidentally got them 18 in Dex without trying to, just building them out to be a friendly Tailor who picked some pockets early in their life. (originally held captive for their silk, they escaped and figured out their natural shapeshifting, lived on the streets for a while, then became an apprentice under a Tailor and left their pickpocketing behind. Still have the skills, as you never truly forget how to ride a bike... They sleep with a dagger under their pillow as they're paranoid of being captured again)

[@andybarr2406]

Just played an Anadi rogue and it was awesome, I did get punched by one of our group when I instantly turned in to a spider, as they had a fear of spiders!

[@calvinthegreat69]

Worth pointing out that the summoner starts with Act Together which lets gives one free action to either summoner or eidolon. So you get 4 actions per turn split between the 2. I think its kinda cool, as a player you get more actions than anyone else, but your characters get a little less than anyone else.

[@PatrikPatrik1]

I love these videos! New books is great too but there’s still so much to hear your guide and thoughts on the core rules and classes. Thanks!

[@cheezeofages]

I think a good tip is to not look at absolutely all the feats and stuff a class gets, as where you want to take it can be shaped a little by the game and the roleplay (for example I went into a game once with no intentions to take beastmaster on my swashbuckler, but he met a nice animal and also happened to use nature successfully to tame animals so it kinda made sense narratively to). However, if you want to get solid peak at the future of the class you can get a good idea of the major points of how a class will play in the future by looking at levels 9-12, glancing over the feats and class abilities in that range. Most classes get feats or abilities that make a big gameplay change around level 10. For example Rogues get Debilitating Strike at 9, Barbs get the ability to combine raging with a rage action at 11 (making their action economy much better), champions get Divine Smite and Exalt in that range, Oracles get another curse tier at 11, etc. Feats such as stronger refocusing, or a paladin grabbing Blade of Justice, or a ranger getting Master Monster Hunter that can be big dynamic shifts are also around then. So don't necessarily look too far ahead, but glancing at the stuff the class gets near level 10 can be helpful without being too overwhelming.

[@feral_orc]

I disagree completely. While there might be meta picks at that level, most players will never use those abilities for the majority of a campaign. And by the time a game gets to that point, stat distribution shouldn't matter as much if you've got requirements to meet, or you can try retraining. Class and subclass should be enough to go on with a well rounded description of the class fantasy.

[@cheezeofages]

@@feral_orc Yeah, but if they want an idea of what the future holds to either make sure it's what they want or understand the class a little better then around 10th is where I'd recommend looking as that's where some of the big gameplay shifts exist for the classes. Even casters. My main point was if they wanted to, not that they should or are required to. Meta was also a poor choice of words. I meant things that will shake up your gameplay patterns.

[@feral_orc]

@@cheezeofages I've just gotten two separate groups to try 2e and from a purely beginner perspective anyway checking out those feats would just be detrimental. If I wasn't already bald I'd pull my hair out at the thought of trying to explain those things to new people 😂

[@PhoenixLord88]

Thanks for the video! Loved it! We just switched from 5e to p2e and it Seems like i made the right decision - playing as a ranger in one game and a universal wizard in another :D

[@euroanez998]

My first character theory craft was a Tailed Gobling Monk, who speciallicy on Gorilla Stance and grapling, and climbing, i call it Golden Monkey :)

[@Queldonus]

Shout out to everyone that found this awesome channel from the 5e exodus.

[@nessesaryschoolthing]

I hadn't put together that there are 20 classes in 2e right now. You could number them and roll a d20 to decide what you get! Enjoy that while it lasts. I was so disappointed when they added the Artificer to 5e that you couldn't roll a d12 to pick your class anymore.

[@zName1]

You can do d10+(d4-1) for a max of 13.

[@nessesaryschoolthing]

@@zName1 Yeah, but 2 dice added together always favors something in the middle (2d6 favors 7), so you'll end up rolling some classes more often. To get a truly random result for such an awkward number, you'd need something like: Roll 1d6. If it comes up 5 or 6, roll 1d3 and add 10 for your result. If it comes up 1-4, roll 1d10 for the result. Or just roll 1d20 and reroll anything too high.

[@zName1]

@@nessesaryschoolthing oh damn I didn't know about that

[@zName1]

@@nessesaryschoolthing I can avoid that mistake now. Thank you.

[@nessesaryschoolthing]

@@zName1 👍Don't mention it

[@muricanviking6859]

Our group is doing our first go at pathfinder tomorrow so this was extremely well timed lol

[@Sinway025]

alchemist my first character class in my first ever ttrpg campaign.........whoops but really it is easy to think of them as like a wizard, you can learn new bombs/mutagens/elixirs from scrolls and such along with level up, specialize in which one of those you want to be able to make easier and more powerful, and you have to choose which ones from your list of known you want to prepare each day. and just going to say, when i was playing a bomber alchemist, my basic elixir were still clutch in some fights. Fighters have a fighting stance that is cool because it allows you to throw weapons and have them come back to you wanted to build a chakram throwing chracter once. Monks are cool because they have a stance that is nothing but throwing shurikens and empowering them, also one of there final feats you can take is basically going super saiyan in a ttrpg I also really want to try a summoner

[@Kazelrov]

Sylph sorcerer atm but my backup is a ranger. Twin Takedown was a huge appeal - didn't realise it was the best damage overall though!

[@Mewzard]

Investigators also get as many skills as the Rogue. Always worth mentioning.

[@SolomonCaineReaper]

No, they don't. They get a bunch of skills at start, but usually only 6+int. Not quite Rogue levels. After first level, though, they get an increase for their skills and skill feats every single level, same as the rogue. Missing them by 1. Doesn't surprise me that they're so close. They did start off as a rogue subclass.

[@TabletopWorms]

Thank you for this! We are transitioning to Pathfinder 2e and this has been very helpful.

[@IsaacClodfelter]

Man, my 5e level 1 wizards are out here getting bullied when pathfinder has their level 1 wizkids throwing melee weapons like they are Thor.

[@b0sanac]

Just came across your channel in my recommendations. After everything happening with the OGL I'm strongly considering switching to P2e so watching this video this looks so cool. You've got a new sub.

[@shredderswipe]

Just a note about way of the sniper, they're stealth combatants not long range or at least no more than any other gunslinger. Almost all of the snipers abilities involve stealth and they don't get any abilities that improve their range over other gunslingers.

[@Atrianpaul]

yeah but the way of the sniper is more focus on long range firearms... and the other focus on pistols, "pistol and sword" or shootguns... so they will hit at longer range because they are more likely to use an Arquebus with 150 ft range thant a pistolero with his dueling pistol of 60ft range (edit to use 2 martial weapon insted 1 martian and 1 simple... didn't feel right)

[@shredderswipe]

@@Atrianpaul It's true that they are the most suited to using the longest range guns of the ways available but they are still stealth focused more than range. Their initial deed doesn't even work unless you are rolling stealth for initiative, their special reload lets you hide, their other deeds require you to either be hidden or the target to be flat-footed which for a ranged fighter is most reliably achieved by being hidden, and their range with any particular weapon isn't any greater than any other gunslinger's, or any other class, with that same weapon.

[@naoura4939]

@@shredderswipe While you're 100% correct on the point of their feat choice being stealth focused, I think that's to offset the already extreme range some of the longarm firearms get. 300 feet at only a -2 penalty is hard to beat, and if you're shooting from cover (or concealment), ducking back in to stealth and constantly making the enemy wonder where in Sarenrae that shot came from makes perfect sense. It's the ambusher, no doubt, but not a close range ambusher. The only way you'll be rolling stealth for initiative while the rest of your party dives into the melee is if you're putting that range to absolute *work*.

[@Atrianpaul]

@@naoura4939 also you had to take in consideration what the "fantasy" the way of the sniper target... And that is the sniper hide at his nest 100+ ft away of the target.. that why it's good at hiding... Because he shoot far far away and be undetected... His stealth is not for sneak up to the target and kill him...

[@technoeevee6969]

Get ready Nonat, you're about to win the long game

[@legendarydigitize2523]

Pathbuilder made it way easier to build I just finished a weird and possibly not as optimized tengu monk whom i got inspiration from 5e's open hand monk, the unkillable tankiness of the long death monk, and the capacity to heal and harm of the mercy monk Then added katana and wakizashis because why not? I have Kurosawa samurai flicks and Ghost of Tsushima to thank for said weapon choices

[@DHxJarsyl]

So the monk has stances which determine their feats? Normally your feets determine your stance.

[@tzheihoh]

16:02 I am curious how the Universalist specialization would give a Wizard access to Synesthesia?

[@civilbeard]

Great video! This helped get a good sense of each class.

[@ankaarne]

07:04 "being able to give your inventions new hoo-has" Hol'up!

[@aggravatedackbar1183]

Wow, that’s a crazy amount of classes, great job explaining them! Are they all included in the core book?

[@LightPink]

No but they're all on archives of Nethys and pathbuilder

[@christophermzdenek]

When Kineticist and/or Inquisitor arrives, I will be all in on PF2e. I look forward to the day it occurs.

[@canhaoambulante9329]

Kineticist will come in some months. Inquisitor will probably take a lot more time, since we don't even know yet if they will bring the class to 2e

[@johngreen5725]

I went back to watch a few vids on the Summoner, including The Rules Lawyers, and Act Together gives you and your Eidolon 4 actions per turn not 3.

[@lilifoliaenvt]

Act Together is a Tandem action, and he mentions that Tandem actions are the only way to improve your action economy. It could be mentioned that you get Act Together for free at character creation, but he's *technically* not wrong.

[@johngreen5725]

@@lilifoliaenvt He said at the end of the vid that you have to figure out what to do with your 3 action between the 2 of you. That is, technically, wrong because if your both there you don't have 3 actions anymore.

[@JacksonOwex]

@@johngreen5725 No, he's not wrong! Act Together is an ACTION that costs 1 to 3 of your ACTIONS per turn! S you STILL only have three actions and you STILL have to figure out how to use them to get the most out of them, Act Together just happens to be a SPECIFIC way to do EXACTLY what NoNat in the video!

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@JacksonOwex , Act Together allows the Summoner to gain the benefit of how other classes use their minion (Familiar/Animal Companion) after they unlock the independent (Familiar) or Imposing Destrier (Champion), Mature Animal Companion (Druid/Ranger), Advanced Construct Companion (Inventor), just at first level (to represent how the Eidolon is technically _not_ a minion and has a will of its own).

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@johngreen5725 , Act Together (Tandem Action) allows the Summoner to gain the benefit of how other classes use their minion (Familiar/Animal Companion) after they unlock the Independent (Familiar Ability) or Imposing Destrier (Champion Feat), Mature Animal Companion (Druid/Ranger Feat), Advanced Construct Companion (Inventor Feat), and other similar feats, just at level 1 (to represent how the Eidolon is technically _not_ a minion and has a will of its own). In effect, the Summoner-Ediolon Duo has 4 actions per turn... as Act Together grants a bonus action after it is completed. Example: Summoner is getting attacked by Goblin. 1 Action is used to cause Eidolon to Stride next to Goblin. 1 Action is used for Eidolon to Strike the Goblin. 1 Action is used to Act Together; Summoner Aids the Eidolon (1 Action) while Ediolon Shoves the Goblin (1 Action). If the Shove Action is a Critical Success, the Goblin is pushed 10 feet away from Summoner (which is why the Summoner wanted the Aid Action).

[@luispelozo]

This Is the concept of my character: Tiefling criminal who found religion and search redemption. He works for the church of Sarenrae, NOT as a healer, but as a inquisitor, who fights the enemies, inside and outside his religiion. I tried the cleric with rogue mix, and the champion with rogue mix, but neither feels like the character I want to play. Any sugestion?

[@noahs2k]

Playing an alchemist bomber as my first character in pathfinder 2e, it’s been a lot of fun being both the dedicated healer, and somehow the highest dps in some fights. I’m still not sure how I’ve been doing it.

[@feral_orc]

I'm not sure how you can do that either. Are you hitting allies too and counting that as DPS? 😂

[@noahs2k]

@@feral_orc nah, just recently been going against enemies with elemental weaknesses, and the fighter’s been rolling absolute garbage. Splash damage combined with weakness 10 equals at least 14 damage a turn.

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@noahs2k , Well.. wait until you're against foes who are immune to your bombs, lol.

[@pontchristophe3938]

One of your best video. will show it to every player I initiate to help them choose a class. Thanks

[@toodleselnoodos6738]

I’ve decided to reflavor Poppet specific familiar as a Tome specific familiar. So the Witch now has a spellbook without being a Baba Yaga witch. (Well sorta…)

[@McFatson]

*shoves head through Nonat's window* Summoners, because they rule. Easy pick. *leaves, still bleeding from glass*

[@gluttonusrex329]

Ok I didn't know theres this much choices I can choose from, I only have the core Rulebook that I am currently in the middle of Reading. This Video definitely helped but imma stick with Martials first, hopefully I can join in my campaign in the near future

[@Jake-ft1nf]

I like this video. Really helps me get an idea where I'd want to go creatively if I get a chance to play Pathfinder.

[@F2t0ny]

Monk stances sound cool.

[@devils_kin0449]

They really are

[@samtheactualkenku6205]

so I've been wondering, will Paizo put the Slayer class in 2e? I have a similar question for both the Shadowdancer and the Shifter as I have a 1e character with all three classes that I've been playing for almost 5 years and I wanted to see how I could build them in 2e.

[@necogreendragon]

Human rouge can easily start trained in all non lore skills. I want to do a damage comparison between giant instinct barbarian and ranger to see who is the best single target damage. As a dm and player I have found that most barbarian instincts trivialize a lot of encounters.

[@feral_orc]

It goes fighter > barbarian > ranger I believe for standing still and just hitting things

[@garnet1918]

This is a really well-made video. Nice job!

[@MouseMask-p1z]

Funny, I just picked up Pathfinder and immediately thought “hey, alchemist looks interesting” and first thing I hear is “maybe not for your first character.”

[@christosgiannopoulos828]

I think I like these classes more than the 5e ones

[@devils_kin0449]

I come from 5e and I've been checking out PF2e, it's cool as Fuck my dude

[@christosgiannopoulos828]

@@devils_kin0449 Yes. In fact, I'll be using it as my template from now on

[@legendarydigitize2523]

I have long became permanently migrated to pathfinder 2e ever since the ogl fiasco Pf2e just offers way more with generous ability boosts

[@Voroeg]

Thanks for the work

[@sammayes948]

I now want a greataxe charged with disintegrate

[@sneezyfido]

You had one. Sadly it disintegrated

[@Wyldheart7]

Love these videos!

[@chrislyngar9081]

I know I'm a little late to the game here, but still, my very humble opinion, for FIRST character choice, it should be a Player's Handbook Character. Bard, Cleric, Wizard, Fighter, ect, All top tier, reduces the choice paralysis, the class fantasy is more straightforward, and gives you a better starting point.

[@aneldritchdreamgames5925]

Nonat1's inventor adding hoo-has to things: Based

[@BlueFrenzy]

As a 5e player who is trying to get into PF2e, I am looking for something specific and there's tons of pages, so I would appreciate some help from the experts here. You see, one of the things I love most about 5e is all these subclasses that basically create a different and unique twist on a class. I am refering to stuff like Echo Knight, Wildfire druids, astral self monks, genie warlocks, etc... They all have their own powerful gimmick that makes them play in a unique way that no other character can mimic. I love how thanks to the multiclassing it's possible to create unique concepts by mixing those unique features. Now, all the content of PF2e is overwhelming and it's too easy to trip on the "standard" classes and subclasses. So, I would really appreciate if someone could point to me some of these "character turnaround" subclasses, feats or whatever that feels less of a trope and more like an original character.

[@devils_kin0449]

difficult question, but I'll put it this way. There are hundreds of options that could grant you exactly what you ask for no two characters are the same in pf2e

[@legendarydigitize2523]

Pathbuilder 2e helps a lot

[@BreakingStupidity]

Currently made a swashbuckling pirate in the crown of candy setting. He is Captain (sour patch) Kid.

[@lucasbailie9224]

Gonna need a new one of these in a few months with (soon to be) 5 new classes added since this came out

[@ditrixgenesis781]

Question that my first reading didn't really answer. Do Swashbuckler finishers have to, y'know, finish a target to be used?

[@Nonat1s]

No! It's more of a "Combo Finisher" than a "Fight Finisher"! (Though they can often be both with how much damage they deal!)

[@JacksonOwex]

I don't believe so but I haven't look at them as much as some of the other classes!

[@sorcerer455]

Look at it as a finishing sequence in a series of actions. Although all the sequence can be is panache-gaining action (tumble through for example) > finisher (deal high amount of damage). Also to note, once you use a finisher you cannot use any action with the attack trait for the rest of that turn. So it is also a finisher in terms of an attack sequence. Simply put, finishers are just super powerful attacks you can do once per turn.

[@EightTinyRats]

Preparing for the switch to Pathfinder after the shitfest that is DnD OGL, im kinda mad I didn’t start out with Pathfinder first this is sick

[@AutumnReel4444]

PARENTAL ADVISORY: DO NOT GIVE YOUR ROBOTS HOO-HAHS, THANK YOU

[@SolomonCaineReaper]

Single target, single attack for ranger. A rogue can still out damage them with multiple attacks on a single target, because sneak attack is not limited to the first attack. Sneak attack can be applied to every attack in a round.

[@brianwatson4119]

So from what I've been scouring on the webz, it seems like Pathfinder 2 is like a D&D that is better in every way, though crunchier. 20 classes is cool. Feats are cool. Actual rules for non-combat stuff is awesome, because Three Pillars my ass, WotC. Hated 5E because of that. It looks like 3.5 on steroids, and I'm here for that.

[@_leper.4155]

There's more classes

[@RakemGaming]

My girlfriend has been starting to build her first character, and this is going to be very helpful because the class choice was a tough one!

[@Shosara]

"this allows them to be ... ONE OF THE .... SINGLE ... strongest healer...S" ... i am getting mixed messages, i am so confused :D - great video as usual mate!

[@JacksonOwex]

7:17 Wait! Is that guys arm mechanical?! After all this time I am JUST noticing that!!!

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Very useful guide!

[@Zr0din]

OMG is this after the revision or before? Is the GunSlinger in the new Players book?

[@SonicKing84]

Still got that thaumaturge hype. Waiting impatiently.

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

The kits paired with that amazing artwork DND designs are wet blankets to this for me

[@burns5421]

So please let me know if I’m missing something but you mentioned Power Attack for barbarians, and I feel like you mentioned it for them in other videos. But barbs don’t get power attack as far as I’m aware?

[@tamadesthi156]

Tuesday starts my new party with new players, no better timing for this video in my regards :)

[@attonthejedi]

Instant like, love the intrigue music all the nostalgia

[@gavindevore6578]

I love the music

[@TheEventide]

I'm curious now, is Dragon Roost Island's Theme open source now? I hear so many channels using it.

[@Nonat1s]

Nintendo has been incredibly lenient with their music in videos! It's awesome! As long as you're talking over it and following Fair Use, they don't care!

[@romanatorx3949]

Awesome and informative video :)

[@Solrex_the_Sun_King]

Would fighter rogue be a good dual class combo? What about fighter champion?

[@samuelthompson7497]

Sorry for the weird comment, but you have awesome teeth! Your canines are so sharp, they make you look like a werewolf of something XD

[@zeldacrafter4578]

bro looking like a vampire with his teeth pretty sick, amazing look

[@JW-go3vg]

Alright, what's the music at the start? I always recognize it, but it drives me nuts to not remember off the top of my head what it is.

[@meme-fiend3686]

gonna be staring my first pf2e game and use the swashbuckler

[@clayw1656]

Good class to learn how to chain actions and rounds to give you the most advantage in combat

[@roberto-ita]

No update for the Psychic and Thaumaturge? ;)

[@educatemeaj714]

As someone who played DnD for years before burning out, I know you "should" pick you class and then your ancestry... But my husband only convinced me to join his Pathfinder game with cheek pouches. CHEEK POUCHES!! Like, you can casually just pull a grenade out of your mouth mid combat!? But I digress... I really want to build a "noble Reepicheep, defender of the helpless" type character, but my role play style needs to include flexibility - I get bored if i only have one effective combat option... so I was thinking Swashbuckler or Thaumaturge or even Magnus?? But I actually want to be good at what I do, I'm afraid I'll be too squishy for hand to hand combat. How do I make a boss mouse without getting flattened in combat?

[@LtSarai]

Played a bard for a while (only up to level 4, our DM took a job in a different state for a while and now that he's back we're starting a new pf campaign with a different DM) and was BORED TO TEARS in combat, not realizing that PF2E bards are pure support and no fun (imo). Rolepay was nice with stats like society, diplomacy, performance, and bardic lore, but combat was ALWAYS 1. Move to optimal space for 60' circle (1 action) 2. roll for lingering composition (free action) 3. Inspire Courage (1 action) 4. ??? Shield cantrip I guess??? I'm too far away to Aid so I Don't Get Hit, none of my other spells are one action, I used my movement to be in an optimal space to cover my allies, and if I do get Lingering Composition to work, freeing up an action on subsequent turns, none of my spells had more than 30' range. And as a squishy support bard, why would I ever use a movement to get within range of melee attackers' movement, fire off a 2 action spell, and then be unable to run the fuck away?? (Seriously hate not being able to break up my movement.) All of this could just be the way I *thought* the class 'needed to be played' to be any good, and if anyone has any advice on how to make bard combat a little more interesting than 'set up composition cantrip and fall asleep for the rest of the battle' hmu. But The Guys™wanna play PF2E instead of 5e, so I guess I'll try a Ranger this time......I hear they're decent in this system.... Or maybe a swashbuckler?

[@darkdragonsoul99]

So mounted archer is ranger ?

[@Brotherofthe4thCompany]

I love how Pathfinder has a greater variety of classes than Dungeons And Dragons. I’d love to start playing this game.

[@Mikaeus_Un_Hallowed]

Pathfinder is blowing up rn right?

[@inkibusss]

Which class should you play, and why is it fighter?

[@FoxFaeria]

Compared to the options and bonuses a Wizard get, I believe a Polymath mage with a Spellbook is a "better" wizard than a wizard : you get a lot of bonuses much quicker and the buff/debuff occult spell list+compositions cantrip allow you to make a big difference and always feel usefull. Plus I disagree : you're not only a spellcaster, you CAN hit (and you're sturdier than a wizard) depending on your build, while still being a decent spellcaster. You excel nowhere but you're the perfect swiss army knife that give those sweet +1/-1 here and there, and deal a bit of damage. In comparison, a wizard has a loooot of spells but just a bit more spellslots than a bard (but a polymath can soon have as much spells as a wizard). The offensive spells of the arcane list hit for less than a martial class, and often require both a spell attack roll AND a save (for 1-2d4 or d6+spellcasting modifier). So you can often spend a spell slot, deal a little bit of damage, see a martial character deal double that on a simple roll, and feel useless (not a big powerfull wizard). You don't get signature spells (and the spontaneity of changing signature spells that a bard can get), you get few boosts before lvl5, ... A bard buffs, sees the hits coming because of the +1/-1, feels usefull cause it is his job, and can have fun quicker. Bards are underrated

[@creativeburst2442]

One interesting flavor of the witch is that divine only has on patron theme because if a divine being already have cleric to act in there interests.

[@JacksonOwex]

And Sorcerers, in a way.

[@pilzhut1562]

Good Job, Mr Nonat, good job.

[@Luna19912]

My first pf2 character was an Alchemist. I regretted my decision almost immediately

[@JacksonOwex]

Over time ALL OF THEM!

[@Solrex_the_Sun_King]

Fighter Magus dual class combo?