Normal Types in Competitive Pokemon.

[@jimothycool]

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[@subtodicerat8305]

the hats look cool

[@Nin-Saber]

Smeargle: “This is outrageous! It’s unfair! How can you learn High Horsepower and not be on the council?!”

[@gittesanddahl9873]

Smeargle doesnt learn High horsepower, it steals High horsepower

[@taipaulsen4347]

The council: “Have a seat young smear”

[@peternicholas3719]

Smeargle can sketch Transform and turn into a Macargo. Wouldn't that make him eligible for Horse Council membership?

[@Karpy0-0]

No! you need to be able to learn High Horsepower by your own merits Transform and Sketch as a whole makes Smeargle's claim illegitimate.

[@koolaids7538]

I'm with the council on this one

[@immortaljd9991]

It’s gotten to the point where I just straight up don’t care what the video is about. I pull up the videos just to hear about horse council drama.

[@CoralReaper707]

I love how abnormal that "normal" types can get. We've got ditto, We've got exploud, We've got chansey, We've got dunsparce, We've got togekiss (at least before gen 6) What's so normal about these fellas? Nothing? Exactly.

[@usernametaken017]

Also how weirdly inconsistent normal type is among "just an animal" mons. Like all the bears and birds and deers are normal types but none of the fish are...

[@CoralReaper707]

@usernametaken017 Ngl, it would make quite a bit of sense for a fish to be part normal type, or hell, even pure normal type

[@CoralReaper707]

@j.b.5422 honestly, I could do with a little less water types

[@theapexsurvivor9538]

​@@CoralReaper707water normal lovedisc would be unstoppable, gamefreak has to keep us safe from it~

[@MortanAMrk]

Fishes are animals but they live in water whuch is why they are water type

[@stuckinabucket6873]

Aw hell yeah another 1 hour vid to listen to while i go about mundane daily tasks. Hoping my boy Linoone gets a shout out.

[@jimothycool]

Linoone Did.

[@mintyerb]

@@jimothycooloooo la la

[@stuckinabucket6873]

@@jimothycool you love to see a good belly drum extreme speed sweep.

[@wentoneisendon6502]

I just started the vid, I want a Spinda shout out

[@Jacob-fz5ho]

normal video for normal tasks

[@subtodicerat8305]

I realised that iron mugulis is a normal type. oh no

[@jimothycool]

That freak is anything but normal..

[@RickyRiceB]

Even worse is that it might learn higher horsier power in a future dlc

[@wentoneisendon6502]

Iron mugulis is Mug type

[@drinkmug]

​@@wentoneisendon6502 Hello.

[@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia]

An interesting thing about gen 4 Arceus is that it was actually EV locked. Because it was only ever distributed at level 100 and you couldn't EV train level 100 Pokemon prior to gen 5, the most you could get for Arceus was 100 EVs in five stats with the vitamins. Despite this, it was STILL too overpowered

[@EvilApple567]

It wasn't originally banned for being op though, it was because the sim at the time couldn't implement its EV restrictions. I'm not sure if when it was "tested" in certain tournaments later on and kept banned it was EV locked either, so while it's undoubtedly incredibly powerful and versatile in Ubers it's hard to say whether it would've necessitated a DPP AG with a proper timely release or if it's more a fringe case like NFE banned ADV UU where the playerbase overall just enjoyed the tier better without it (and its 16 other forms).

[@Snagavitch]

@@EvilApple567from my understanding and research it seems like the community thought it took away rather than added to the tier. Some thought it was broken others thought it simply made the game worse. From my experience with it in the tier I 100% prefer the format without arceus. It is definitely more balanced with a team preview

[@jd_orph]

Every mouse has its household

[@cale5670]

Pouring one out for Meloetta, Falling down the tiers so much that it couldn't get a spotlight in either psychic or normal mono-history vids But another vid to enjoy listening to in the background? Nice

[@BlaqueT]

I feel the same for Farigiraf 😭

[@mkah4776]

Gotta love how "a powerful beam that leave its user tired" is a normal type

[@B463L]

It's pretty normal to have a refractory period

[@wentoneisendon6502]

​@@B463L💀💀

[@StafkiGTN]

I feel like it'd make more sense for it to be psychic if anything

[@WeaterdeaTH]

I think there needs to be a discussion about what, in spirit, makes one a horse. Magcargo has shown himself to possess the spirit of a horse and he rightfully sits on the throne. Smeargle's horse claim is performative at best.

[@Psychomaniac14]

Arceus literally ruled that whether or not you can learn High Horsepower isn't factored into whether or not you deserve to be on the Horse Council

[@gallae]

that gen 1 counter quirk is also the reason gengar sometimes runs the move even though it's immune to normal- and fighting-type damage: if your opponent takes out one of your pokemon with a body slam or hyper beam, you can send in gengar to outspeed them and hit them with counter, which will calculate off of the move used last turn even though gengar wasn't the one who took the hit.

[@moonman4307]

also i think u can counter ur own explosion as long as no other move was performed beforehand. gen 1 counter was truly a wonderful anomaly

[@A_quip]

Gengar can't outspeed them as counter has negative priority in gen 1. Nor can it be attacked at all by anything, it relies on the opponent switching out and countering whatever swaps in.

[@gallae]

@@A_quip ah, you're totally right, thanks for the correction!

[@nullgator8073]

What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

[@Neverleterlun]

THIS CERTIANLY ISNT A normal video! Wonderful work Mr Cool as always. The F.E.A is saving fund to support the wonderful Pation so that one day a spot light can be put on our leader Raichu. His injustices have been ignored for far too long! Great work as always.

[@wentoneisendon6502]

I find it absolutely fascinating that it was only discovered that normal types were immune to body slam paralysis (in gen 1) in like, 2014 or 2015? It's insane

[@Cornbinks]

Not a lot of people playing on cartridge these days, who would have known?

[@theblackgamer8103]

​@@CornbinksUh the roms? Dumping all the data of the game to find out quirks? I'm sure it's just that people maybe thought they had Gen 1 figured out when they didn't.

[@Jakoshark220]

my favorite normal type of all time is bidoof. they are the finest of the early route rodents. if you decide to delay their evolution, they get a very early hyper fang and yawn, which are powerful and tactical options for a discerning player. they are also plump. delightful.

[@dakoriolf]

If any gamers are interested in learning more about rby counter, KZbinr “Reverend” made a video about some of its specific mechanics

[@draphking]

Then irony being that majority of these Pokemon would be considered boring to a small child, when compared to the fire dragon and water pump turtle but they end up being the strongest mons in the game

[@ladonmccabe]

Dodrio is 3 times cooler than any other flying types. One of my favorite things was his Fly animation in Stadium. He basically floated in the air, kicking his legs like he's riding an invisible bike lmfao

[@aronspiker72]

From what I can tell, the only correction needed for the gen 1 section is that Persian with slash is a guarenteed crit (aside from the 1/256 glitch which also applies to crits in addition to accuracy) because the crit fir high crit rate moves is: (base speed)/64 Instead of: (base speed)/512 This means that a pokemon in gen 1 only needs 65 base speed to get that (essentially) guaranteed crit with a move like slash

[@ponk325]

Also freeze being thawed when hit by a fire type attack, it's actually being hit by an attack with a burn chance (fire spin won't thaw)

[@BlaqueT]

Poor Farigiraf missing out on a feature in the Normal and Psychic videos 😭 thanks for another great vid! I always look forward to these long vids (in addition to your other regular uploads)

[@DaniDoyle]

Not something you got wrong but a funny niche interaction you didn't mention... In addition to counter being able to store the opponent's attack when they switch it's capable of storing YOUR OWN explosion damage due to a programming error in RBY which is incredibly funny even if it doesn't come up often

[@HaiThereManchannel]

What an aptly named type, surely they must be as respectable as they seem…

[@tecul1]

yea

[@jimothycool]

Yeah.

[@usernametaken017]

yup

[@h.p463]

Yes

[@TheBfutgreg]

Affirmative

[@AndrewRKenny]

15:11 Wow I never knew that was your favourite Pokémon! Cool pick, very unique.

[@ABSmovies]

Love your content dude. Have a good day.

[@browncowz]

the thumbnail art for this video is so stinkin cute

[@BenjaminMiles-rt9vl]

Thanks!

[@BenjaminMiles-rt9vl]

Mate, I fucking LOVE your content. Exactly what I’m looking for. Can’t get enough.

[@jamesgiles4517]

Keep in mind that Arceus had an EV cap limit in gen 4 and STILL got banned That speaks volumes of how good it was

[@KVO723]

I wanna see some of my other boys like Snorlax Klawf and Okidogi get shoutouts for also learning High Horsepower. Very few mons learn it that actually make sense

[@mlujua4279]

One of those little weird things that can be learned about gen1 is that Persian doesn't crit many times with slash, it always crits (not counting that 1 in 256 chance due to bugs). Even slower things like Sandslash always crit with slash. The speed benchmark to hit is base 64. Loved the video, by the way. As always

[@curtislanglitz926]

My Jim cool senses were tingling, so I opened KZbin and there this was 😂

[@wentoneisendon6502]

That is insane

[@JenolaVA]

My favorite normal type has got to be Maushold. When it was first leaked I thought it was fake, because it really just looks like a generic mascot character rather than a pokemon, but it totally grew on me. Maybe because of that, or because of its gimmicky utility. One of my favorite maushold features is that its speed tier is just barely faster than ogrepon, latios and iron moth, and (with the exception of stone mask) population bomb gets them all in one go. Extra funny if one of them has a substitude that gets destroyed by the first two hits of population bomb, or tidied up. Beyond that, I'm a big fan of how Porygon-Z incidentally interacts with generational mechanics without ever having been deliberately designed for it. Terablast is a decent STAB move for a lack of better options, and because of adaptability, gets a nice boost in damage whether tera'd or not.

[@susguyfromamongus]

If you observe tauros's sprite you'll notice his wicked third eye that calls upon dark magicks from beyond the void

[@aldrichunfaithful3589]

27:45 definitely agree, blissey has so much versatility. my personal favourite blissey set is one that i came up with for my stall team, it runs flamethrower, calm mind, toxic, soft boiled, which sounds odd but in my experience it's by far the best set for always making progress and not being punished for passive play. calm mind is a win condition that forces ppl to respect the bliss, flamethrower is good neutrally and hits steel types coming in on toxic, and toxic just generates so much value. on that team i also have a rest zap to 1v1 any suicune or milotic, along with a cursed bulky metagross set with rest and psych up to 1v1 snorlax who could come in on bliss, and i have heal bell elsewhere so bliss doesn't need aroma. also i can tell jim didn't play much gen 8 ou , it's pretty audacious to call teleport blissey a "cool buff" when the entire metagame was dominated by all the pivoting nonsense. hopefully in gen 10 my dreams will come true and they'll nerf the offensive pivots too so the game will be fun again this is my last also lol, but hisuian zoroark actually has a powerful niche in hackmons as the only setup sweeper that hard counters imposter without gutting itself. most sweepers just get copied by eviolite chansey and cooked, but zoroark can run a set with simple no retreat, boomburst and astral barrage for damage, then judgement with a dread plate which lets you hit enemy imposter while they can't touch you. obviously zoroark has a 510bst and is competing with stuff like av ice scales primal kyogre, and there are other ways to imposter proof your sweepers, but all of them are either less consistent or require you to drop important coverage, so zoroark is genuinely viable

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

That is actually very gen 3 style moveset. I’ve seen this exact moveset before and it is a doozy.

[@aldrichunfaithful3589]

@@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 if you saw that blissey set on the gen 3 ladder it was probably me using it, was i using my cursed stall team with that metagross and zap along with resttalk swampert and dragonite?

[@ABSmovies]

"Normal" is the most aptly named type in competitive Pokemon.

[@Roachdawgjunior]

An overall unexciting type, compared to more fantastical concepts like Dragon or Ghost.

[@TimeToSine39]

And Normal types also do not resist anything themselves.

[@ahzasX]

Normal types have two noteworthy properties

[@donttrustnoone3921]

​@@ahzasX They are immune to Ghost and weak to Fighting

[@Mondo78951]

Most normal types are not very successful in competitive

[@benkesler487]

My favorite Normal type is Fearow. He had the best back sprite in gen 1, and he carried me through pokemon Yellow after I realized Pikachu wasn't going to do anything useful

[@williamhowells806]

As an rby player. Hey normal type is my goat. We.dont talk about the fall

[@benjaminschmitt1562]

I had an idea to give normal types a weaker stab and resistance to most other types, as in normal grants a small 1.2x boost to non-normal moves and 1.2x resistance to incoming attacks minus fighting (and normal). These would not stack with dual-types also. It would help make it more reliable as a “Jack-of-all-trades” in the modern era while _maybe_ not being completely overpowered.

[@TheBfutgreg]

"Ugh, I hate how GameFreak started minmaxing stats in Gen 9!" 0:41 Blissey: "May I introduce myself"

[@azeria1]

I think normal types are exciting maybe try going to the club with exploud sometime

[@SuperEljafru]

i have to agree on porygon2 being one of my favorite mons. trace is such a fun ability and it synergizes so well with a defensively oriented pokémon. i will never not feel like a genius for switching p2 into a flash fire or natural cure mon

[@nicolasromani3523]

My favorite normal type mon is Vigoroth. I love how it is overall superior than his own evolution simply because it lacks Truant.

[@shimogane2474]

Dodrio btw is the frailest normal type. EVERYTHING 2hkos it. I think it is the strongest too but I also think that in a metagame where time is everything to fish for freezes and crits, having no utility at all just makes at a budget zapdos with some tauros traits even with bubble beam or high jump kick.

[@wentoneisendon6502]

How about egg bomb. Does that two hit it?

[@usernametaken017]

The longer you stay alive, the more likely you are to get gen 1'd

[@shimogane2474]

@@wentoneisendon6502 wow. Who TF uses that? Everything RELEVANT (in ou) 2hkos it. Well with one option not all options.

[@konsth191]

mr. cool, I think in some old video of yours you had topics that your viewers could vote on. one video topic that was up for election but never won was something like "what if toxic spikes were in gen 3 ou?". I still think this would make a great video, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. another "what if" that I thought of in the shower: what if pivoting moves made you select who to pivot to at move selection time? I feel like pivoting moves almost inherently go against the main principle of pokemon, which differentiates it from other games like hearthstone, in that you decide on your moves in a double-blind fashion. something like baton pass on jolteon would be useless, but I feel like most pokemon would still benefit from u-turn, volt switch etc

[@hunter00143]

Chansey has a harder hitting Ice Beam than Starmie in Gen 1. This feels wrong.

[@baronobeefdip8075]

Special is a hell of a drug.

[@usernametaken017]

if only chancy had calm mind in gen 1. or amnesia :)

[@RobertLydonReviews]

The horse saga continues Horsea vs Macargo I was onboard with but smeargle is a dog. The council should deny him lol

[@jabohonu]

1:12:17 hahahaha lol. And nice video like always

[@MogusMasterSaikawa22]

snorlax's versatility is so cool in gen 1. when I played it again recently I used a set of amnesia, blizzard, earthquake and self destruct. it sucks not being able to heal up and potential use him again but it's a good set for taking advantage of the extra special bulk and predicting switches and it's good for trading with chansey and isn't shut down by porygon which I can imagine is really damn embarrassing if that has happened to anyone before. wouldn't be me the amnesia snorlax user hasdofi

[@bugface8565]

Jim who makes these thumbnails? Really cute, I love them

[@jimothycool]

A friend makes them

[@bugface8565]

@@jimothycool tell them I said "hello"

[@usernametaken017]

​@@jimothycooltell them I said " "

[@anon3631]

Insane amount of knowledge, thanks King.

[@keiharris332]

Choice scarf ditto with imposter was one of the best counters to zacian, getting the boosts it had as well as it's ability boost

[@Bea5rs]

The EV set you had on Arceus isn’t available in gen 4. It could only be received via event at level 100, and so the only way to EV it was through items, which cap at 100 EVs each

[@Rawla2]

The best normal glow up is Miss Lopunny. Went from zero to hero in one generation. Know she needs tidy up, and knock off to finish out her near perfection

[@p00p00king]

I am feeling very normal this weekend

[@simonjiha3434]

Yo, that's so cool. Dodrio is the best flying type pokemon. it's a really fun design

[@AngryAyrab]

Stoutland is my favorite Normal type.

[@ahuman9969]

The surf music playing during the gen 3 section was the correct decision

[@AndrewRKenny]

Mine is Porygon probably, but one of the Porygons for sure. P2 has been rising in my eyes. They are awesome mons.

[@analoghabits9217]

Kingler's claws have ten thousand horse power, representing a vast herd

[@UnchainedPandoran]

Normal is funnily enough, probably the least normal type out of all of them. I’ve grown to really like the normal type, particularly for the great neutral damage it’s able to do. The immunity to ghosts can be quite helpful as well.

[@biscuitboi3561]

Video number 9 *synonym for asking* horse council merchandise

[@jackson4672]

Dodrio also has access to a physical tri-attack in Gen 1, meaning it can potentially burn, freeze, or paralysis

[@TheAweDude1]

I always find it hilarious that we spent nearly 20 years not realising that Normal types could not be paralyzed by body slam.

[@stinkydiapey2154]

“Your family has been torn apart by a simple yellow helmet”😂😂😂

[@VicBossMG]

I’ll hopefully come back to Maushold, but haven’t enjoyed sv ou and started playing ADV and natdex Ubers and Arceus normal is by far my favorite Pokémon to use with its great movepool.

[@DarkAquatix]

At this point I'm not sure if I'm here more for the developing Horse Council story or the analysis video!

[@themister.s-1st]

Hey Jim, any plans for the weekend?

[@AB-kk4lf]

I feel like you should've brought up Snorlax in adv ubers, it is a lot better in that tier which I think people would find interesting.

[@jasonbarry3301]

Users of the historic OU ranked normal type rapper Eminem have been awfully quiet since Jimmothy said “Maushold; every mouse has its household”. I don’t even think Eminem can learn semicolon folks.

[@legendoftytoki7222]

Designwise I would have to say meloetta. It’s a cute concept to switch between a more specially bulky special attacker into an agile physical attacker altho I wish that I can switch between forma without wasting a move slot for relic song. Meloetta is oddly nostalgic for me as a kid Competitively, I would say farigiraf. Despite its relatively modest stat spread, it has found a way to become better due to power creep in the vgc meta which is a rare case for a Pokémon with its nice typing, great utility moves, and its powerful armor tail ability being able prevent priority attacks from disrupting your game, especially fake out

[@TheAweDude1]

Also, I kinda wished Stellar was a gimmick type that made certain Pokemon truly typeless. I always wondered if certain Pokemon would benefit from just straight up not having a type.

[@peachykeen3194]

I miss when every new Pokemon didn't need to have a new ability or move unique to them. Signature moves and abilities used to be the exception, but now almost every new Pokemon has them. It makes these traits feel less special or interesting than they used to.

[@Monkeyman12534]

You should buy a realistic cake of your hat to eat for the next subscriber milestone

[@ghghghh727]

Love normal spam in gen 3. If you’ve faced a Zangoose lead on ladder, then we have done battle 🙂

[@jazzercise300]

The level 85 chansey with seismic toss is a real gen 1 strategy. Three hits on their chansey, thats 255 damage and due to a glitch it makes their softboiled fail. I think it works on opps with recover too but not sure

[@A_quip]

It's certainly a "real gen 1 strategy" in the way that running sweeper ferrothorn is a "real gen 5 strategy" Certainly interesting, has an application, but niche, easily countered when known, and at this point, too well known to catch people off-guard. No serious player intending to win a gen 1 ou match would bring it.

[@et34t34fdf]

Was thinking, is normal/fighting with scrappy the only true perfect neutral coverage there is, when you include abilities, wonderguard aside?

[@furiouscorgi6614]

It's the only two-type complete neutral coverage. Ghost/Fighting was also true neutral prior to Hisuian Zoroark

[@lrodshrek6086]

Tinted lens would give several dual types perfect neutral coverage. Lokix has perfect coverage on everything except for Iron Valiant.

[@furiouscorgi6614]

@@lrodshrek6086 tinted lens still technically doesn't count as true neutral. If something had an ability that procced when they resist an attack, Tinted Lens doesn't bypass it

[@A_quip]

Freeze-dry + Water Scrappy ghost + fighting

[@Lawrencelot89]

My favourite normal type has to be Exploud. Just shout at your enemy until they faint! Too bad I don't see it in any competitive tier/gen, does anyone know a tier/gen where it does not suck? (does not have to be OU)

[@subtodicerat8305]

Hey jim arceus can not use 252 EVs in its stats because you receive it at level 100 and it can only be EVd by the EV items which can only put 100 EVs in each stat

[@3Tomatoess]

i am boombursting so hard right now

[@robraf12]

Spinda doesn‘t even get some love in the normal type video Poor Spinda 😢

[@SurlyUJest]

the "Blissy" pronunciation jumpscared me a couple times

[@spanner5686]

every house has its maushold

[@justintsui2522]

Mega Kangaskhan and Maushold showing the power of child soldiers

[@King_Nipper]

Komala rising to check a top tier pokemon, Dragapult, should be included!

[@YouLackSelfAwareness]

What if normal was strong against fairy since normal people would capture magical beings.

[@JohnDoe-gc3bj]

Blissey is quad-weak to physical damage.

[@daxdleader719]

I have a question, Jimothy Cool. Kangaskhan can learn roar. This made me wonder, can kangaroos roar?

[@zaidodufuye8700]

Does anyone know the name of the song that starts at 19:18 ?

[@grauenritter9220]

if you think about it, ground type is the new normal type. they both have 1 immunity, both have resilience against metagame forces, think sr or immunity to body slam paralysis. the pokemon tend to have big movepools and overall high stats. and both jusst represent large animal/monsters, pokemon in its purest form. the only thing that breaks from this is that ground types have a bit of anti armor to them as they can beat rocks and steels

[@yosblitz9026]

This analogy breaks down with ground being one of the best offensive types in the game

[@AVUREDUES54]

Oh shit Jimothy isn't cool, he's HOT 🥵

[@chillero3heftig712]

pory is love, pory is life

[@EvilApple567]

Even though these are OU+ focused, it seems disingenuous to not mention Porygon's dominance of ADV ZU which makes GSC Lax look like a ZU itself. Bending the meta to its -bill- will, this sharp duck sends Ponyta Running Away at the sight of it, and Illuminates Staryu to the fact it is a sub par(a) status spreader and special attacker. Even if Staryu tries getting cheeky by using a functional ability, the electric soldier will show that anything Yu can do, it can do better, and before you know it your star shaped paper weight is Gon.

[@circleturtles]

I really feel like mew should have been a normal type, it would have fit very well with it's lore as the ancestor pokemon, and with it's access to boom, body slam and swords dance it may have actually been much more of a threat to mewtwo in gen 1 ubers

[@circleturtles]

Also hyper beam lol

[@anaranjado8635]

5:22 i think the plural term is tauri

[@triviszla1536]

Regigigas unironically my favorite normal type

[@lukeshiwaker]

Am I weird for preferring the Gen 1 counter mechanic over how it works now?

[@williamhowells806]

Hey at least they were the best type in gen 1 and having lax in gen 2. Also god

[@lalalalalalalalalari]

Chansey/Blissey were really consistent. Just a braindead pokemon.

[@JJNWSGHOST0299]

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