WHY did my FERRARI F430 CATCH ON FIRE?

[@zoraaduntov2290]

Dan, You are a good guy. You put in 110% on everything you do. You absolutely deserve our support for your success!

[@derekdok]

fair play to you for being 100% transparent with this also, could have easily hidden this.

[@cammedmotorsports7629]

Dan is the only man I have ever seen looking like he was smiling while saying oh f**ck it’s actually on 🔥 When he was driving LOL

[@obelisk9999]

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL same thoughts

[@BrinkofSpeed]

CAMMED Motorsports Lol, sure enough! It’s because he is a happy happy guy! 😊👍

[@Texas240]

In the other vid, he said that watching himself smiling, while the car was on fire, it was like the shock of the situation resulted in his brain disconnecting because he was definitely not in a smiley mood.

[@bigdizzle8120]

"Never seen this happen before..." - quote from every company ever who f'ed something up.

[@2benot2b39]

Yep! No doubt theres a reason it was cheap(er) in the first place!! Buyer beware.. goodluck apportioning blame now!

[@DJ170]

.. or when you go at your dealer.

[@yoseppijoe]

Nobody ever knew, nobody's nobody's ever seen this before. Who could have seen this coming? A lotta people are saying. People are telling me. People already know. A lotta good things are happening. Sounds familiar. On the manufacturer, not Dan.

[@2benot2b39]

@@yoseppijoe If it is out of warranty, and clearly being fettled with on a daily basis by a non approved self proclaimed mechanic....I can see the response from the manufacturer!! They spend millions on R&D, and will see this merely as a one off localised issue not design flaw!

[@romeo2r2]

2 BE NOT 2B Not sure why you think that there would be any apportionment at all?

[@kipchicoria]

I still think they powder coated them instead of ceramic coated them. Especially after seeing this video. Love your channel Dan, great videos. Had Fabspeed exhaust on my Porsche, excellent quality.

[@Supernoma]

A flammable coating for exhaust manifolds? What could go wrong? 😂 Glad the damage was minimal and you held up the auction to sort everything out.

[@organiccold]

And good on Ferrari to have loads of heat shield all around.

[@romeo2r2]

Dan, Fabspeed offers an optional ceramic coating as an alternative(?) to the blankets. Why did you not order the headers with their ceramic coating? Cost is around $300 if memory serves me correctly. Kudos to you for how you have handled all of this in such a transparent way.

[@motoken]

Ceramic coating = to manage heat. YOU HAD ONE JOB!!!! LOL!

[@spendingtimetogether8428]

Agreed, that's insane. What's the alternate?

[@kriskorsmo]

As long as the ceramic coating company makes things right with you this will be a quick fix and a positive outcome to what could’ve been a tragic situation. This is totally normal guy stuff! Love your channel, Dan! Keep up the great work!

[@normalguysupercar]

agreed

[@johnwhodat8135]

@@normalguysupercar ..I don't know if I missed anything but why did you replaced the headers?

[@kyleknebel6409]

If Ferrari didn't see the need to ceramic coat their headers from the factory, why would you "add" this? Got suckered, and luckily only had to pay a bit more for the privilege!

[@littleroller]

'Ferrari for sale. Caught on fire only once due to "ceramic coating" header issue.' Well at least you knew the value of the car pre-fire. The company responsible should cover your difference if it sells for less. Good luck Dan and keep up the great work!

[@organiccold]

Should'nt loose any value as no damage at all.

[@2ntenz]

I’ll pass

[@samadrid6321]

Ferrari should put a section in its owner's manual titled "If Your Ferrari Catches Fire."

[@CopterKev]

Any car will burn with “flammable” headers installed.

[@TheDealer6373]

@@CopterKev He made that joke because there is a high amount online that have caught fire.

[@cirocciroc]

Call a man-- Jeremy Clarkson

[@thomasbrasse3145]

Great video Dan. you handled the issue very professionally. Best of luck as you continue fixing it back up. I wouldn't hesitate to buy this car once you are finished.

[@normalguysupercar]

Thanks 👍

[@brandonabbott95]

I'm very happy to hear the damage was minimal and that you are safe, Dan. Hopefully the fire video gathers some new viewers for your channel and turns this into a positive. I've been following the channel for quite some time now, and I think you're creating one of the my tight knit, mature car communities on the internet. I never see any immature or bashing comments, it's all reasonable people who enjoy cars and either own fun cars, or aspire to own them. Communities like this are difficult to find but I'm glad to have found yours. I feel like we're part of something truly unique and exciting and I can't wait to see what the future has in store for all of us. Wishing you all the best, maybe one day we'll meet on a rally or something, how damn cool would that be? Cheers Dan & Meg! 🥂

[@paulrigg5132]

You may have saved someone’s life Dan. Plus you’ve saved the header insulation company a fortune in warranty claims. You deserve a substantial bit of compensation for your vigilance and efforts. Well done.

[@VAF84]

Can vouch for Fabspeed F430 headers. Excellent product! Dan, glad you were able to figure out the issue. Looks like you’re almost back on track, good luck!

[@denniscorso259]

Hey Dan, I had the zoomie headers on my front engine topfuel car ceramic coated. During the first season the coating burned off on the bottom of the bends. They didn’t catch on fire! In defense of the ceramic coating, this was a Keith Black hemi burning 90% nitro and supercharged.

[@joao-pt]

Hey Dan! Around here we usually say: "O barato saí caro!" Which means: "Cheap turns into expensive!" It's always better to use blankets or nothing at all! I know several (Ferraris) that run without anything covering the exhaust manifolds, other than those heat-shields already installed in the car... Sorry for your lost, but great content, as always! All the best!

[@DarkDanteZ]

Br ?

[@joao-pt]

@@DarkDanteZ I assume you mean to ask if I'm from Brazil, I'm not.

[@chevyracing1080]

Good work, Mo. We live about 15min down the road from you in Lakeway and the dogs are always directly in my face working on the cars and bikes.. gotta love it.

[@Zapps65]

Lesson learned, get the Fab C headers already ceramic coated from the mfg. It's awesome that the damage was very minimal. This was a good learning experience for all of us. Thanks for sharing this Dan .

[@danielgalvin6310]

Glad that you are ok. My '70 De Tomaso Mangusta caught fire one night on a deserted road at midnight and I barely got out alive. The car was totaled.

[@carlylekhan7007]

Hi Dan. Really Good News. Very glad that the Damage was confined to the Exhaust Manifold. Most of All Very Glad That You Are Okay. Machinery Can Always Be Repaired. Stay Safe. Stay Hi To Megan. Greetings from The Caribbean.

[@daapgaming]

Just seen this upload and went and watch the upload when it caught fire, Wow my heart hit my feet, you were lucky it was minimal damage, hope they look after you bud, and sort the situation out best of luck and glad your ok

[@CollectingWeekly]

Dude that’s wild. Good luck in the sense that it happened to you and not the buyer and great luck that you weren’t hurt.

[@M40753]

Wow!! great job Dan!! I think you got lucky there buddy!! nothing else got damaged for sure !!

[@teddyg210]

Dan fingers crossed that this is only a cleanup job! This is a learning opportunity for all of us thinking of getting ceramic on headers

[@speedfreak.v1251]

Hi Dan . Luckily there's minimal damage . Jet Hot coating , have lifetime warranty on there coatings . I only know that from NHRA Drag racing . Good luck 👍

[@RemiPut]

It looks like they Plasti Dipped it 😜

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Good demo with the flame on the headers. Very interesting to see! And again, very glad YOU are doing well and hoping to see how well this F430 cleans up.

[@normalguysupercar]

Thank you very much!

[@LeoPiero]

I bought the fabspeed blankets and the headers. Haven't installed them yet. Looks easy when you have the right tools.

[@bradw922]

great news Dan, looks like it is not too serious. I was clicking on youtube every hour all weekend to see if you updated the status. Again, keep up all the great work!

[@johnmorrison27]

Hi Dan, onwards & upwards, all the very best from the UK 👍👍👍👍

[@dlewis1340]

Dan - Really love the content and the information you provide. Hang in there and you will get the 430 sorted and moved along. I can't wait to watch the next project.

[@braydonscully4646]

Glad to see this was very limited in scope and the headers just basically smoldered away on their own. You will be back up and running in a jiffy, this is super well documented via video and should not effect price. Good luck!!

[@kev-the-windsurfer.]

I do not evy you cleaning up that soot!! Great assessment and plan of attack to get everything right again, good luck Dan, it looks like minimal damage!! Handling it like a pro!!

[@KeeferVision]

Good job Dan, looks like be good to go when the new headers come in.

[@Ninakoklahombi]

Great news Dan. So glad it worked out as well as it did. I figured it wouldn’t be bad. Also glad you are ok. Great video as always. Stay safe and healthy.

[@toddjones9715]

So glad no damage to the beautiful F430. Happy for you as well Dan. Good luck someone is going to get an awesome car.

[@targaflorio3239]

Good to see you’re okay Dan. Good job figuring it out. Hope all goes well from here

[@seanek9]

Glad the car and you survived. I would question if that was actually ceramic coating or just a high temperature paint. If it had been correctly coated I fail to see how it could possibly ignite at such a low temperature......bearing in mind it theoretically was applied in a stream of plasma.

[@KevinMcMullen.]

Glad you found the issue.

[@michaelgiordano2093]

Great video Dan.. you will get the ferrari back in shape in no time 😁😁😁

[@ncsteeltoe]

Jet Hot did the headers on the 350 crate motor my '57 Chevy around 20 years ago and they still look like new. This is plainly a faulty application.

[@ViperGuy145]

I'm really glad there doesnt look to be much damage. To me, it appears that the ceramic company owes you a new set of headers. It sounds like they are trying to make it right. Good thing it was caught on camera too! My headers are ceramic coated on my Roadrunner and I haven't had an issue with it either.

[@BrinkofSpeed]

Great video man, I wish I knew how to do all that stuff on cars.

[@normalguysupercar]

Thanks Mike, it's not that hard to learn. I know you could do it.

[@BrinkofSpeed]

Normal Guy Supercar Well if I lived closer to you, I could learn from you 😊

[@eskanday]

Dan, you are a good guy. I really appreciate your honesty and transparency.

[@AutoPilotgogogo]

7:37 The headers look like fried Anakin after battling Obi Wan. 😯

[@Cool12354]

Thank you so much for having this Channel, I’ll be heading to my Porsche dealer soon LOL

[@deanmiller8873]

Glad to see minimal damage Dan, everything is easier the 2nd, 3rd time for sure! Hoping to see the company who did the ceramic coating steps up and treats you right.

[@joelaurieri9065]

Moe needs a pair of red overalls like yours :-)

[@gmh101358]

I love the Italian music playing while taking off the headers....

[@normalguysupercar]

Lol me too

[@DarkDanteZ]

Me too.

[@tedshirai6747]

Great channel! Glad you are ok. Did fabspeed ceramic coat the headers, or did you do that later? What happen to your buddies 458 with the fried electrical system? Thanks

[@psych0hans]

Whew! I’m so glad this wasn’t worse. Good luck!

[@normalguysupercar]

Me too!

[@SomeJuanPlay]

Awesome video man keep up the good work I'm glad to see your channel is growing

[@Uninfluenced]

They didn't do a real Ceramic coating.. That's Powder coating.. I have seen that on a few Show cars.. That place that did the work Messed Up

[@Xplicitlyricky]

Most important is you are safe. Glad there is no other damage, keep moving forward.

[@Eric-x4v3i]

I have never seen that failure mode either. I have had PolyDyn coated heatlders and JetHot coating. Even had a cheap set Ibrattle canned. Never any issues. Very interested in knowing the product used.

[@sw651]

Hoping everything is fine and very little to no damage, fingers crossed.

[@bruces12]

Hey Dan, I'm sure the purpose for the ceramic coating is to act as a fire retardant (which you know wasn't functioning as advertised)...so why not fashion a heat shield for the headers like other areas of high temperature in the engine and skip worrying about trying to have someone else make you their guinea pig...just a thought.

[@leehearsey]

Firstly glad it didn't turn into a proper fire ball, that would have been horrific, but also while I appreciate the ceramic is meant to be a fantastic heat insulator but it will also never see direct flame as per your test, as its meant to insulate the pipe that is getting heated up from the hot gasses flowing inside, could it be you had a small exhaust leak that caused it to catch light before it was fully cured? small leaks tend to act like a jet of fire, any signs of leaks around the gasket/manifold joints? maybe a combination of that and a not amazing coating caused the fire? also appreciate ive never tried direct flame on a ceramic coating either so am well prepared to be wrong, just an idea, great honest video either way

[@rsowder]

Both headers where damaged. So, probably not an exhaust leak.

[@tomkendorski1975]

Glad to see the damage isn’t too bad!!!

[@endirrwiggins2494]

Love your content, too bad about the fire. Don't think Ill ever afford to purchase a Ferrari, but nice to see an ordinary guy own and very important maintain such a beautiful car.

[@aamirrazvi2939]

It takes a lot of courage to put all that there. Keep up the good work Dan!

[@ericl452]

I wonder if the ceramic coating guys were sold a counterfeit product. Came in a container that looked like the real stuff. With love from China.

[@owenmorgan857]

Loving the content, good to see the F430 will live

[@jimcear1766]

Dan, So happy it’s looking like minimal damage to the 430. Whew. Wrap the next set of headers then the auction winner will have no concerns and can ceramic them later if they choose to. I’ll be carrying a halon extinguisher in the 360 ASAP. 👨‍🚒

[@jackdale9249]

Swain tech coatings does a ceramic coating for most of the NASCAR teams ! it is about 55% effective and is a REAL ceramic ( thicker than .oo5" BTW ! ) and NO it will NOT come off ! ( Or burn ! ) in fact it would have to be ground off to remove it ! ( Jet hot, et all is a PAINT and only about 35% effective ) additionally , we use a very high temp wrap that can withstand 2,000deg F ! so we can expect about 80-95% effective heat blockage and NO it does NOT cause ANY issues w/ headers ! we have used it for 40 years ! ( Any issues w/ wrap ? they are using the wrong type ! ) Yes, header blankets DO work but so does the techniques I just described and they are thousands of $ less than header blankets ! i realize many / most Ferrari owners can well afford header blankets but there are better , more effective ,and cheaper alternatives . so the applicator of the wrong coating did or did not make good paying for the damages and labor ?

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

Doesn't look like there's much air flow through that area, don't be surprised if the whole system was running beyond the heat where the coating is rated for, due to lack of cooling air passing outside the exhausts. Under the hood of a classic muscle car, which have the whole motor exposed to airflow underneath, the coating will probably have no issues.

[@denniscorso259]

Can you tell us how you got the fire out? You saw flames and smoke and pulled over. Did you have a fire extinguisher?

[@normalguysupercar]

The flames went out as soon as I stopped and shut off the engine.

[@paulappache6479]

Glad all is well with the car. Now Dan, since I knew you when on the Fchat site, and we exchanged numbers, I still have yet to do my headers on my 430... and damn you are good and fast. Any chance of getting you to help come do mine. I am in Santa Barbara.. lol... so a nice vacation when this is Covid thing is over,,,, you guys can stay here... lol Glad to see you doing this channel... .. Paul

[@ty423]

I stand corrected...thought it was a fuel leak but WOW never heard of ceramic coating catching on fire. That's wild!

[@apriliaracing7]

Wow! I have never seen that light on fire with a torch before. I know that most ceramic coated headers come partially cured and you have to "break" them in by letting the engine run to operating temperature for around 5 to 10 minutes, letting it cool down and take it for a drive. Which you did... Perhaps the coating wasn't cured enough to where the temperatures of driving made it catch fire. All I know is that is the strangest thing I've seen.

[@nycinkmaster]

Im assuming the heat without mittens or a heat shield melted the plastic that fell unto the headers .

[@stopmaverick2]

Doesn’t look bad at all !! And HOLY MOLY!! Look how fast that caught fire!!😳 That is so scary.. omg

[@normalguysupercar]

I may have gotten very lucky with respect to almost no damage.

[@mousetrap134]

Contamination of the ceramic mix would be my guest , Great news that minimum damage has occurred Less stress for You my friend ( it s going to be OK ) All the best

[@SeishukuS12]

Or wasn't even ceramic powder at all, just a normal polyester powder coat that happened to be the same color.

[@Will-wg3hj]

I'm glad you didn't get hurt and I'm glad the fire didn't damage the entire car.

[@jackjack1752]

this is crazy. you need to sue the ceramic coating company. my worry is who would want to buy a fire f430? I wouldn't. Man Dan, im so sorry man. But I think your gonna be looking at a big loss on this one. I feel for your investor too. Listen hang in there. We need you to go viral.

[@simplecarblog5663]

Well if you get new headers and possible new ceramic coating as a goodwill from that company. Please try the new one as well with the flame torch so you now that their products is not really bad.

[@OggaDugga]

If you want them Ceramic coated. I highly recommend Swaintech.

[@auwz66]

When you showed the headers post coating I thought they looked a bit odd. Almost like the coating process had not been done in the correct stages, it almost looked "thick". Ceramic coated exhausts its almost such a thin layer that its like super thin paint. This did not look like that. I wonder if somewhere along the process someone mixed up 2 different coatings.... applied the wrong one and it looked ok but was just not even the right product.

[@Rippedfat]

Hey Dan...that sucks...Dan can you tell me the floor mat system used on your garage floor???

[@fredsalfa]

But why would you ceramic coat your headers ? what does it do ? Its hardly seen that much ?

[@chrissimon8403]

Dan, not trying to flame but why was it pertinent to get the ceramic coating done ?

[@normalguysupercar]

As mentioned in previous videos, it's typically for 2 purposes - Heat management and to keep them looking beautiful as it won't discolor.

[@chrissimon8403]

So then if it is heat management, how much difference could it possibly make with a small amount of ceramic applied? Those headers get extremely hot.

[@chrissimon8403]

@@kalamazoo-Fcar I agree something is f'd up but it would also be interesting to see the difference in the temp of the headers before and after the ceramic coating to see how much of a difference there is. I believe it would be around approx. 1200 degrees without a coating.

[@Mark_Bloom]

Was there some kind of coating on the headers that wasn't cleaned-off prior to the ceramic coating?

[@normalguysupercar]

No but the surface still needs proper prep

[@michaelhollimon7709]

Quick question Dan were would the F1 sensor be located ? Is this kinda easy to replace ? Because I have a shoe error that won't go away it would come and go after I drove it for 10mins or so now it stays on . I have a OBD sensor reader first gen not a OBDII . any help would be appreciated

[@LearningFast]

Good luck to you. I would be shocked if anyone will buy that car now. The company that put the coating on the headers should be forced to buy that car from you.

[@romeo2r2]

I screwed up and added this to somebody else’s comment with apologies. I believe that Fabspeed has a ceramic coating for both the 360 and 430 headers as an alternative(?) to the blankets. About $300 if memory serves me correctly. Why would you have not had them ceramic the headers? I would think that the headers are actually salvageable and could maybe be sand blasted clean again?

[@mariodesmo]

Looks like the coating may have not been cured properly after being applied to the headers??? I thought the headers were smoking way too much, when the car was idling on the driveway. Just a guess of course.

[@derekdok]

Looks like you got lucky with this, great result. I'd imagine that ceramic coating company were sweating..

[@MS-1994]

I appreciate your determination.

[@coreycohen6160]

So it looks thankfully that it really was just the header coating that was catching on fire. Luckily for you it was an area that has lots of heat shielding so the flames really only carried soot everywhere. I bet that company will try your blow torch trick going forward on all the headers they ceramic coat as part of their QA. It also looked like while the coating burned, the moment heat was removed it stopped, unlike a gas fire, so pulling over may have saved the car from a disaster.

[@opethmike]

"You really shouldn't lick that." Boy, do I hear that phrase often.

[@bruces12]

That, sir, was a funny statement!

[@sidneygriffiths5737]

What are the headers made of, and what are the original ones made of??

[@craigallen5092]

Great videos. Keep making content!!

[@cartofgiant]

Dude your so understanding,, your a good man Dan.. I’m sure it will all work o75.

[@donaldhall1599]

Your FIREARRI ! All jokes aside I'm glad you're okay bro! Good thing the owner hasn't taken delivery of that yet

[@polarbear111000]

Looks like a clean up and put some headers in it...done....that's awesome!!!

[@discogodfather22]

Ceramic coating? Looks like Rustoleum lawn chair paint. They owe you some money bro.

[@JayDKBGames]

Wow those things are torched

[@gtcharliep]

My bet is they powder coated it. When powder coating is applied it is essentially a dust made of a thermoplastic or a thermoset polymer being sprayed onto the item being coated. Plastic dust is highly flammable.

[@blanejr1]

Are they offering any $$$ back for time and materials used to clean up, not to mention they could have burnt your car down?

[@jamesstegbauer5454]

Thanks again Dan.......Time to go to titanium headers.....