Normalize calling wavy hair wavy

[@nataliecampbell3385]

Honestly I think recognizing my hair as wavy is what made me actually like it. When I first started taking care of it as curly hair I was soooooo bombarded with curl envy bc curly hair is so beautiful but I ultimately had unrealistic expectation for what my hair can be. Once I started looking for influencers with wavy hair, looking for wavy instead of curly routines, I realized wavy hair is so beautiful and different too and I'd rather be proud of what I have than hate myself for what I don't

[@frizzzx86]

same to all this!

[@Katrn30]

Calling India Bastion’s hair wavy is ridiculous...and, imho, her hair is the type I find most beautiful. Those with tight curls are limited in how to wear their hair, but those with big bouncy loose curls/ waves are the most versatile. I realize we don’t get to pick our hair type, but I feel this whole wavy/curly crap is jealousy on the part of those who have less pretty, hard to manage hair. I think we should all calm down and do what Manes by Mel says...adjust your product to your hair (use less for wavy for example) and just love your hair, and appreciate all curly types.

[@asternoon16]

@@Katrn30 nobody’s mad we are calm. Like she said if u wanna call your hair curly it’s fine.

[@Katrn30]

@@asternoon16 obviously you haven’t seen the posts where frizzy headed gals get all triggered when someone doesn’t have the same curls as they do, dares to call their hair curly. A wave is a type of curl...people need to get over themselves, seriously. I’ve seen rude people tear strips off influencers because of this, and it is always jealousy because the influencer is always gorgeous with beautiful hair!

[@marisadaniela6]

Yeah my hair curls, but it's not "curly". I kind of wish it was, but hey, grass is always greener. Embrace what you've got!

[@SwavyBlonde]

So incredible that I only found your video 3 years later! Oh wow and thank you so much for joining the conversation. I just want to add up that the more we call it wavy more hair product companies will start creating products for us 😊 it became much better now, however I still believe industry has a lot to do yet to accommodate wavy hair needs

[@tungstenmouse]

I really needed to hear this. I have 2A to 2B hair with a few stray 2C/3A curls but I look at these girls with gorgeous curls and I just end up hating my hair. I’ve been doing so much wrong to it that it’s really messing it up but so much media focuses on straight or curly that I’m just confused. Thank you so much! This is just what I needed to hear.

[@shallowwaters6690]

Growing up my hair was much “curlier” but my adult hair has twice been typed 2C, so I am a wavy. However, until hair typing came along everyone I ever met said I had curly hair. I understand the difference between waves and curls (And I am a OK with being a wavy), But sometimes it’s still hard not to identify myself as a curly girl. It’s been part of my identity for so long.

[@francinesmith1889]

You *are* a curly girl. Waves are part of the curl family.

[@NiaChii]

In my life I got a lot of people say to me that my hair are just damaged curls but that’s not true :( I have wavy hair and I love my hair! It took me quite long to love it because there was a time when I really thought that my hair is really just damaged. But I have wavy hair and and I’m proud of it. So many wavy girls call their hair curly, it’s so difficult to find pictures or videos of people with actual wavy hair. Also what I noticed, many wavy or curly hair person don’t like it when people call their hair wavy, because wavy hair is always put on a negative light. Either the curls are so damaged that they don’t curl up or straight hair is damaged from the beach or something like that. I hope more people will be proud of their wavy hair! In the end it doesn’t matter if your hair ist straight wavy or curly, they’re all beautiful. Thank you so much for your videos, I watch them all.😊

[@isabellabicalho1994]

I agree with you on this. The only thing that bothers me is that I have never seen people calling out people with coily/kinky for using the term "curly hair". It seems to be something very specific towards wavy hair that triggers people. I wish I could understand why.

[@SuhannaDeSilva]

I don’t have curly or coily hair but I *think* it’s because coily hair is a form of very very tightly curled hair (we see it when moisturizing products are added to detangle it). I also know that coily hair was root of the natural hair and subsequently the curly hair movement and community being a thing. I’ve noticed a lot of the “I didn’t know my hair was curly” videos are made by conventionally attractive white women with wavy hair, it could be seen as detracting from a movement that was started to normalize curly and Afro textured hair. Again, I’m not part of these communities and I don’t speak for them, but from what I’ve seen from both perspectives, this could be an explanation.

[@isabellabicalho1994]

@@SuhannaDeSilva This is a very good point. (And yet another reason to use wavy instead of curly!).

[@nyanzarojas8776]

@@SuhannaDeSilva as a black woman with kinky curly hair, I can say, you gave a very good explanation. And I love your videos! They have helped me out so much with my biracial daughters thin and wavy hair.

[@Katrn30]

There will always be jealous women, that’s why. I appreciate all types of curls...they can all do different styles, and are all beautiful. While I can admire a black woman’s tight kinky coils, I will never have that type. Does it make my type 2c/3a hair less beautiful? No! When I meet a woman with any type of curl pattern who obviously took time and effort to make her hair look good, I always compliment her. While I love my hair ( most days) I admire all types of hair styles and textures. Appreciation is much nicer than jealousy...don’t you agree?

[@shantellhall1577]

YES!!!! I love my waves. Using stylers is to hair like makeup is to skin. All is beautiful, you just use stylers and makeup to enhance that beauty. Also misconceiving wavy hair for curly will likely lead to incorrect products and techniques. This may not only NOT help someone enhance their natural texture/pattern but may not be the healthiest for their hair.

[@snowleopard_x3533]

I discovered only last year that my hair is wavy. It's 2a-2b, but mostly 2a, so it usually looked good when I just blow-dried it straight. No frizz or whatever. Air-drying was a little bit of a different story, never dried nice, so I just always blow-dried it. Then I discovered the curly girl method and just tried it out for fun during quarantine and was shook that I've got some texture. However because I couldn't really find wavy influencers I bought a ton of products that didn't work for me and tbh most techniques also didn't work and that was so so so frustrating. I'm really glad I found your channel. It helped a lot and now I'm finally figuring out how to handle my hair.

[@33lml]

I understand the premise and I agree somewhat. But…I don’t understand all the hostility and why people get so OFFENDED when you say curly instead of wavy. It’s a basic syllogism: waves are a type of curl but not all curls are a wave. Just like all squares are a type of rectangle but not all rectangles are a square. I get wanting to be technical, but I really don’t understand why people get so mean and aggressive about it.

[@Katrn30]

I know, right?

[@soakupthenoise]

I think it's primarily because when they look for content for their hair type they end up seeing a bunch of pictures of 2A hair and advice for that hair type. 3B hair and its needs are very very different from 2A.

[@zeub78]

I'm a Somali decent most of my family have wavy straight hair. I have wavy hair that is straight and fine from the roots however, the middle and the ends are curls. Other than a blowout I'm limited with my styling options. I like twist outs that I comb through it's a heatless way to strech out my hair have volume and length.

[@Katrn30]

Actually no one should speak for anyone else. I have 2c/3a hair, and I can assure you I don’t “aspire” to have a tighter curl. What I aspire to is a good hair day when I don’t have crazy hair. Personally I don’t get triggered when someone uses words like curly or wavy. They are synonymous. I prefer to watch videos where the hair is like mine because I need tips on how to maximize my curl type. I used to use products to straighten my hair...which was incredibly damaging. Now no heat for me and I use a few products, and voila! Healthy, easy to live with wavy/curly hair! Thanks to the vloggers.

[@AMY-ml7yc]

Even as a kid, my hair was “confusing” because about half of it was pretty straight and the other half was forming curly ringlets without any product! Back then people would still say I’m curly because the ringlets stuck out most. But I think it’s not uncommon for wavies to have that issue (straight and curly/spiral strands… what a dilemma!😅😅) it’s still hard to work out a good routine because I’m always chasing uniformity in my waves.

[@lilashem1986]

THANK YOU! I so needed this. Now that I recognize my hair as wavy, I've been finding so much more valuable information.

[@AMY-ml7yc]

Great video! I call myself a wavy. People will usually say curly because they often think anything not straight = curly. Part of the issue like you mentioned is also mixed or combination of different textures. The pieces framing my hairline form ringlets whereas the canopy is “swavy ” and the rest (majority) is twisting into chunkier waves.

[@wtv12345678]

I feel like I'm always in the middle for these kinds of things. If i go to sleep with damp hair i will wake up with a mess of curls and waves. And some of my hair will show a full on curl that u can entirely coil together (but never starting at the root) and pull and it will bounce back but mostly the top of my hair grows out really dry from the root and will wave or just... be a burden lol... Basically my hair ranges from wavy to curly and I don't feel like i belong in either XD I've never seen anyone with hair exactly like mine either. I just like to go with "curly-ish" as a descriptor!

[@umang7658]

I call my wavy hair baby. ;)

[@SuhannaDeSilva]

It definitely is your baby with how much we take care of her!

[@BellaDonna0912]

I love this and you’re Chanel because I too have WAVY not curly hair and I want to embrace it

[@francinesmith1889]

A wave is a loose curl; waves are part of the curl family. I have mostly 2c curls and have no trouble finding products that work for my hair. If y’all would pay attention to the ingredients, you might too. Do I need a stronger hold in my gel to maintain definition? Yes, but the same was true when I was straightening my hair. If I didn’t put something in my hair, even if it was just hairspray afterwards, by the end of the day my flat ironed hair would become 2a-2b curls on its own. And just hairspray wouldn’t do anything for day2 hair; she would be all loose 2b curls when I woke up next day.

[@musicmama2864]

Totally agree! I really wanted to love the Pacifica line. The curls line was too much. Then they came out with a wavy line-Yay!. Nope. I think it's supposed to help people w/ straight hair have waves? It's not even close to being the right texture to support a wavy pattern. I've been happy with the Allafia stylers, though. Fun to test new things!

[@liana2233]

agreed! i have straightened my wavy hair my entire life without putting much thought about what it would be categorised naturally. Now I'm on my second year going all natural and enhancing my type 2a-2c waves. It might have some extra volume and a couple wringlets some days, and some days it's more flat and straight, but I *always* make sure to call it what it is, like just own it, yknow? not only does wavy hair *look* beautiful, it also *sounds* beautiful.. and dreamy! embrace it 🧘🏽‍♀️

[@staceybaez1363]

Thank youuuuu I’ve been saying this for a while now. Wavy is wavy and curly is curly

[@quantumwombat]

Yes! I think I'm in the minority of wavies in that I knew my hair was wavy since I asked my mom when I was like 5, but I remember that question came up when I was doing one of those fun quiz books that kids do and it asked if my hair was straight or curly, and I was super frustrated because I didn't feel like I fit into either one. So I've known my hair was wavy for a long time, but I still didn't know how to style it until about a year ago, and I still had MAJOR curl envy when I started styling it. I hoped that somehow ringlets would spring from my heat damage-free, chemical damage-free wavy hair just because I stopped using sulfates and silicones (lmao)

[@blackberryjammy]

Wavy hair is a type of curl tho. It’s a looser curl pattern… You can’t argue whichever way around that. It’s still a type of curl pattern. So I think a lot of people say they have curly hair when it’s wavy because it just makes sense to them to say that. Literally who cares lol. So many people try to gatekeep a curl pattern and I just think they have too much time on their hands. Let’s let people say what they want and use whatever language they want to describe their hair texture and move on with our lives. People who are dead set on trying to correct other people’s language about how to categorize their hair are really doing the most, and probably have too much time on their hands.

[@asternoon16]

She didn’t gatekeeper at all she literally said that if you want to call it curly it’s fine. she talking about girls who don’t like their wavy hair.

[@ghazalanikhat7562]

There are many reasons that I am glad I have wavy hair... I flaunt them proudly.

[@auroracharming5531]

I hoped my wavy hair would end up curly when I grew out the dye and took care of it. Now I'm happy that it's wavy, if I do happen to straighten it it looks much better than it did when I straightend it daily. 😄

[@natygarate]

I think this video is the wake up call I needed. Wavy hair for days hahaha

[@fiocherry]

Totallyyyyy agree with you!!!

[@juliawilliams1304]

This message needs to be shared until people really start to understand it

[@ashleyj6835]

I ABSOLUTELY love my wavy hair!!! We’re Mermaids🧜🏻‍♀️🧜🏻‍♀️🧜🏻‍♀️🧜🏻‍♀️💕💘

[@Romil_un]

If we get ringlets in our sides and mostly hairs Is it curly or wavy Do wavy hairs get ringlets

[@Katrn30]

I think all hair can be beautiful with the right cut, products, and styling. This is why we come to KZbin!

[@sivannatalie]

You make great points here. Well said.

[@sophiablank325]

I have quite coarse hair, should I still use protein in my products? X

[@SuhannaDeSilva]

Protein can be used but you'll want to focus on moisture to soften your strands.

[@cheevere1157]

@sophia And smaller types of protein like silk :)

[@sambruno3072]

Suhanna but I was told wavy is curly it’s just looser and not as defined do u think that’s true p.s my hair is wavy but only my ends curl a bit that’s also why I asked

[@SuhannaDeSilva]

Waves are stretched out curls, but curly hair forms a full ringlet, wavy hair takes an s shape. So yes it falls under the curly family, it’s its own hair type.

[@sambruno3072]

@@SuhannaDeSilva thank u

[@Someone03671]

Hello Suhanna, I was wondering what is your hair texture, porosity and density?

[@SuhannaDeSilva]

Medium to thick strands, medium-ish porosity and low density.

[@Someone03671]

@@SuhannaDeSilva Thank you! I have thin strands, medium porosity and medium density, do you have any advice? If you don't it's totally fine, since your hair is different.

[@liana2233]

also omg can i just say how much i appreciate your content! I have learned so much from your videos in the beginning of my hair journey and i always recommend it to my fellow confused wavies

[@alinasarasamuel506]

How is your hair so soft❤️ Mine is a little on the stiffer side...any idea why?

[@SuhannaDeSilva]

You may have coarser strands than mine? My strands are thick but they’re not super coarse, definitely try more moisturizing shampoos, conditioners and hair masks!

[@alinasarasamuel506]

Thanks a lot for the reply ❤️❤️❤️

[@gravincas3916]

I honestly think people should just stop being bitches in the comment section and let things be. It screams to me to just let the bully be a bully by telling us to placate them. I do think that most of us have always wanted a tighter curl pattern. Just as I think a lot of those with a tighter curl pattern want straight hair. I grew up with straight hair, always dreaming of beautiful curls. Imagine my elation when I let my hair air dry one day and I had some spirals. I don't think my cause of wanting curlier hair and not saying wavy is because I say wavy curly, or curly. It's because I've always wanted what I deem beautiful, and all my life I've thought curly hair is beautiful and to finally have it made me FEEL beautiful. Which is something I've struggled with all of my life. It's semantics to me, and sure you could throw that back at me and say well then it shouldn't bother me if I'm called wavy. Which should be true, but growing up there weren't crazies in really life calling out people who have wavy hair saying they can't call it curly. All I ever saw growing up was called curly hair whether it was technically wavy or not. It's just engrained in me to call it all curly, and for the life of me I don't understand what the problem is with that.

[@anonymus5316]

I love my wavy hair. Infact I don’t want it to be curly curly

[@rosalvadiaz7490]

💯💯💯 Agreed!!!

[@kalanatorres845]

It’s so funny watching these wavy headed girls get heated up just because people point out they have wavy hair 😭 there’s nothing wrong with having wavy hair. there is such a visible difference between 2b hair and 3c hair, they are not the same at all, and it’s okay. Then they go ahead and call the community toxic🤣🤣🤣if you have wavy hair you have wavy hair period

[@MsLinoi]

Totally agree! I like to refer to my hair as wavy as I just see it as more specific than just saying it's curly. And I also saw that video "your hair isn't wavy its damaged" and it got me quite angry. Calling my hair wavy is therefore important as it is an act that shows the world that wavy hair isn't frizzy, damaged hair, and that waves don't have to be straightened or curled to be beautiful!

[@sierrawood3106]

As an afro women, you saying that waves are always the before and curls are the "after" is just not accurate to me. I always used to see shampoo commercials where they almost ALWAYS had wavy hair at the After and curls at the before. I also feel like the "before" in movies was curly a lot of the times and the after was with straight or waved hair (when there was a makeup transformation or smth) btw english is not my first language this is not meant mean

[@Lepidophera]

Hey I think I know what you mean. I am a wavy and I think what she wanted to point out is that natural! Wavy hair ist always the example for the before picture. Because natural waves often look a little wild. And this ist very frustrating. I think the pictures you mean are these perfect made waves (classic Victoria secret look) which is always the example for perfect wavy styles. The problem ist that you cannot really achieve that look with natural waves. So you often have a natural wavy as the before picture for a Artifical wavy style. 😊

[@SuhannaDeSilva]

Yes exactly! They’ll show heat styled* waves as a romantic after photo but use actual wavy hair as an “ugly”, frizzy before photo.

[@nyanzarojas8776]

As a black girl that’s what it looked like to me as well. But now after reading these two comments I get what they are saying.

[@cissihallberg5559]

What's up with wavy hair being the least "atrractive" hairtype!? Straight hair is beautiful. Curly hair is beautiful. Wavy hair is a bit of both, What's not to like !?

[@SuhannaDeSilva]

I would say Afro textured hair is still stigmatized the most in society (Black girls are still being sent home from school for their natural hair) but wavy hair is used in comparison to straight and curly hair.

[@cissihallberg5559]

@@SuhannaDeSilva Yeah, you are probably right about that. In the part pf the world where I live, most people with afro hair are refugees that are religious muslims and the women cover their hair. So being sent home from school because of hair isn't really a thing around here. 😅

[@Katrn30]

I am wavy/curly and get compliments all the time. I like my hair better than anyone else’s, I don’t have hair envy. Except if I could, I would look like India Bastion hair and all. Since that’s not happening I am finally happy with my locks.

[@sivannatalie]

@@SuhannaDeSilva Black girls are being sent home from school because of their natural hair? In 2021? Can you please share a link to where you got this info from? This is hard to believe.

[@okcool7444]

Aren’t waves part of the curl family? Wavy Curly Coily? Does that mean that people w/ coily hair aren’t allowed to say they have curly hair?

[@Katrn30]

Waves are a type of curl...this discussion is silly because it would be like my sister and I arguing over our skin color...she is dark and tans, and I am fair and burn...but we are both Caucasian. It just doesn’t matter...it seems like the tight curly gals get triggered when someone with less tight curls and waves call their hair curly. All are beautiful...move on, and just show us how to style it.

[@asternoon16]

I love my wavy hair and this discussion is not silly some girls really hate their wavy and wish it was a tighter curl. And I think this a good video for wavy girls who their hair. We are not all the same but just like you said we are (all curl )types beautiful.

[@Katrn30]

@@asternoon16 it really us silly...to argue over whose hair is curlier...damn silly.