Northern Ireland Patrol Sack & MTP Clone....bexbugoutsurvivor

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In this video we check out the all time favourite day sack of its time the beloved NI (Northern Ireland) a 30 litre patrol sack that is hard to be rivaled even today. That said Kombat UK have tried to imitate this pack in mutiterrain with fair results.
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[@timwinslade7462]

Bex i swear youre a mind reader... ive been looking at these mtp versions of the NI packs for a few weeks and couldnt decide whether they are worth it. thank you for making another cracking video. stay safe. tim

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Glad I could help!

[@ivormoraywildcamper2447]

Hi,i have the NI patrol pack,and its been everywhere with me,i especially like it for my sea fishing,for scrambling down cliffs etc,as you correctly said absolute bomb proof these things.thanks for sharing yet another informative video.cheers man.👍

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

I prefer a camp load out in a NI, rather than a bergen theses days. Thanx for watching

[@keithorbell8946]

I bought one of those Kombat UK NI clones a few years ago, loaded it with water bottles, hot squash in flasks and warm clothes for a winter Sunday morning rugby session for my two daughters when they were 10 and 8 respectively, shifted it about 10 metres from the boot of the car to the pitch side, and the seams were splitting. At the same time, I’d bought a couple of Kombat molle MTP pouches to go with the pack, the molle strips started fraying when I moved the pouches for the second time. Needless to say I will never buy anything produced by Kombat ever again. I replaced the pack with a Pro-Force version, my eldest has used it for Scouts and a few other events, and it’s a cracking pack.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Agreed, Kombat UK has some very hit and miss products. I have stated this point in other videos, but as you can imagine it falls on deaf ears, for the Kombat fan boys. My research shows that early clones are pretty solid packs, but production was relocated, and manufactured by out of house production, leading to a much inferior product. The take away from this is, early production products are good, and later re-modelling can be substandard. To assure quality I would buy the original issued surplus only Kombat UK then later introduced a product line for children, and I thought their company lost its way in the market place at this point, and often adults were buying kit only fit for kids play time, in the misunderstanding it was kit for adults. The lesson here is, (If in doubt but genuine ex-issue surplus) and buyer beware.

[@keithorbell8946]

@@bexbugoutsurvivor agreed, you can pick up a decent, issued NI pack off evil Bay for under £30.

[@amfearliathmor9747]

Purchased a new NI IRR pack years ago for about £25. Good reliable pack but quite a basic carry system. Ended up getting a new 30 Litre Karrimor SF Predator for £30. It now has 6 Molle pouches attached 2x Predator Large Utility Pouches. 2x Predator Omni Pouches and 2 MFH Large Utility pouches. I also now use the Predator 30L pack in conjunction with a Helikon Tex Numbat chest pack as well. Good nostalgic video about the NI pack.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

I like the look of all the predator packs, and was contemplating the 80-130 too, until I discovered if I carry my doss bag rolled up inside my bivvy bag, it could be bungeed on top of my 30 ltr NI. I think I will sew on rockets to my 30 NI and know everything thing that is stowed in my bergen fits the NI. Can't beat Karrimor imo, apart from their boots, went through 2 pairs in the same week, both failed with the same issues....bex

[@paulmerry6262]

Thanks for the very useful info in this video. I’ll be getting a surplus DPM NI pack and sewing on rocket pockets using your sewing awl tips.

[@mikel6517]

Not bothered by the colour, own only the DPM as it’s about 20 years old and it’s brilliant bombproof so strong. Yes heavier but I know it will never fail outside like some and I like the size and pockets

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

I get tonnes of stick for using Mtp..lol. I grew up with both during their transition.

[@johndevitt2164]

brilliant video Bex. I got one and then me mate saw it and the father in law, so I got 3 of them. I noticed this year the dpm is becoming less and less. Amazing bit of kit. I added a sternum strap. Like the bergen it has the tardis effect in getting kit into it. I think at the time there was a lot of R&D and you can see the quality and how robust they are. Cheers Bex

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

My pleasure. I would trade a full Bergen for the NI any day...thanx for watching....bex

[@DMAC1966]

Have had the NI (DPM) Pack for sometime now. I've added thick elastic to the front so that I can hold stuff in place. Even contemplated removing the side pouches adding zips from my old Bergen for 10ltr DPM Rocket Pouches. Obviously depending on cost...I'm no seamstress like you ;-)

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Tailor....Only a seamsress when I sew wearing my high heels and frilly panies....lol Its a mod I have done, but sewn on due to no spare zippers, but can always unpick the stitches and add zippers in time....thanx for watching...b

[@boris100ish]

Great review Bex. Original NI pack Very very sturdy excellent value for money. Wouldn’t like to guess how much the cost of manufacture was. The quality is second to none. Like them so much I had to buy another never used pack to add to my collection 🙄. Thanks for taking the time film. All the best Pete 👍

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Your welcome. One day a material will be discovered that is as tough as cordura and as light as poly maybe....

[@MichaelR58]

Bex , good comparison video , thanks for sharing , God bless !

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Thanks for watching! Take care God bless...

[@anthonymitchell8041]

Thanks for the video. I have the DPM pack, £14 on eBay. I am very impressed with the quality of it. In May I was out in a sleet storm on my bike , and no water came through the fabric. So I will stick with the DPM pack.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Enjoy it...I bungee my doss bag on top of it and shed kilos from carrying a bergen...

[@guerrillashadowman]

That’s a really good comparison. I have the multi cam kombat uk version and I like the Molle but hate the hood as it’s so stiff it and the pockets are almost unusable. Looking at the original it seems to be slightly bigger particularly in the side pouches. I wouldn’t recommend buying a copy certainly not a kombat uk version.

[@cavscp]

Hi Bex, the original NI Patrol pack will always trump any Webtex or Kombat clone. The did issue an NI Patrol pack in desert DPM for the desert. Production stopped when the MOD introduced PRI to the mix and then moved to MTP and a different range of packs were created.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

The Pri looks the dogs. Most lad bought their own, usually the Camelbak Motherload.....

[@stumpymacgabhann]

Great vid. Some new info so thanks for that. Be good stay safe.

[@deehenery4313]

I live in Northern Ireland love the dpm but I use current issue pcs softies to save space 👍🇬🇧

[@p.oneill6943]

Hi to you do you know where I can pick up the N.I. Patrol Pack and theirs another version I saw on u tube which is All Green in color looks like the above mentioned but is in D.P.M.???Thank you ...Pete Dublin

[@1972andyb]

Great vid, I have just picked up a genuine issue dpm pack on your recommendation. Thankyou I love it. I have no problem getting my jetboil minimo into the side pocket. I have mine in a small dry bag, so handles are all tucked in.

[@deandunbar5159]

Always enjoy learning new things on your channel interesting about the differance between packs the information could safe someone money & trouble always great and interesting facts you know your stuff... ATVBB. 👍😎👍

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Thanx for watching Dean, the pleasure is all mine....bex

[@johncamps1337]

Bought my DPM NI pack from a online army surplus shop grade 2 still in good condition. Was just dusty. Cleaned it up just as good as new. Think I paid £20 for it. 👍🏻 🙂 🇬🇧 A good tough pack but smaller than a bergen. A good day pack, overnighter camp. I liked the DPM version.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

I stow my doss bag on top of the NI sack with bungees, and carry all the same contents from my bergen...I am modding mine with rocket pouches now

[@davidmorris631]

Hello Bex and I have the NI pack irr and it's very well made and I dont like the new one and I will stick to the original one. Thanks for sharing

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

The clone I have is pretty old now (pre made in china days)...lol I note the quality of Kombat is child like these days.....Thanx for watching.....bex

[@steveallen6147]

Brought the kombat mtp version because the write up made it sound like was issued,hated it,sold it and stuck with original ni pack

[@ppspsd]

This is funny! Just found this video and I had asked a couple of questions about this very pack on another one of your videos! Don't know how I missed it.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Glad it was helpful!

[@BeercanBushcraft]

Brilliant video Bex. All the very best to you and yours 👍 👍 👍 🍻

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Thank you kindly.... Am modding up some Russian SF kit to put in the NI pack now. Its been filmed, and its a belter....Thanx for watching...bex

[@BeercanBushcraft]

@@bexbugoutsurvivor really looking forward to seeing that one Bex :-)

[@davidsloan9804]

I really like the fact you don't take sugar just white powder lol

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

I would love to eradicate the youtube sugar police from existence....lol

[@JD-hp8qn]

That's a really useful vid. Thanks

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Glad it was helpful!

[@amfearliathmor9747]

Bex, I was looking through some of my old gear recently and came across a 5x7 ft (MVP) Goretex basha sheet similar to my (MVP) Goretex Poncho. Both are IRR DPM. Any ideas if these items were issued kit as there is no NSN? I also have a reversible DPM/Desert DPM Polartec Windblock Fleece jacket (IRR) and a 5.11 DPM Combat Waterproof Jacket (Not IRR) from about 15 years ago. I think these were experimental pre issue clothing items for evaluation but not to sure if these were just commercial items. Any ideas? Have you also tried the lighter weight BCB Crusader Mug/Cooking Mk2 system?

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

I think MVP was a French camo, so may not come under the same nato stock number umbrella perhaps, but not too sure on that. If they were a short line stock I would hang on to them, betcha they will be worth something now, not seen them for many a year now. I have the BCB Mk2 crusader, the cook pot has an indentation in the base, which means it wont sit on all stoves, and food gets trapped in the recess and burns. I use the Mk1 pot, heavier but for superior imo...thanx for watching...bex

[@paulmerry6262]

@@bexbugoutsurvivor mk1 BCB crusader is definitely the better option.

[@mikel6517]

Just asking you said you use DPM over MTP in the winter does that mean the DPM is a lot warmer or only a little difference. I only own the mtp trousers and a black mod copy of the mtp fleese and they are superb that’s why I am asking. Thank you

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Dpm trousers are significantly warner. Mtp was made a lot thinner for a dessert environment to stay cool.....

[@amfearliathmor9747]

Any ideas where you can get a NOS Arktis 1514 Antarctic Shirt. This was a fantastic item of kit compared to a Norgie shirt.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

It might be a case of hunting all online surplus (that stock Arktis) which is rare. I know Arktis don't carry it in stock any more. I hunted for 4 years for a frame for one of my bergens, and found one at Silvermans. Give him a phone, if he hasn't got one, he might know someone that has...b

[@amfearliathmor9747]

@@bexbugoutsurvivor Thanks for the info.

[@neilcastell6951]

NI Patrol Packs are dated by modern standards, but they will keep going almost forever. I had an olive green (kombat uk) clone, ... have to say it was a great pack, fabric and construction was a bit inferior but it was good in comparison to many other civi packs. Given a choice i'd go for the NI Pack, it gets bonus points for manliness. After the NI Patrol Pack, the army started issuing PRI (karrimor) patrol bags (there are several models and several camo patterns) with outshine the NI pack, although it would be an unfair comparison as the PRI packs benefit from all the modern advancements and had a huge amount of R+D spent on them. I gave my NI Pack away (slightly regret it) and sold the clone, upgraded to the PRI patrol pack in DPM, as it can take plce side pouches.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

The pri looks to have better multi use functionality for a wild camper. Although I may favour the 50 litre Reindeer, of which I have heard good things, and may try one for the winter, with the intent to stow the maggot strapped to the top. Am I correct in recalling you mentioned you had the reindeer. If so how is it for comfort, and does the weight to litreage ratio work for you. Any tips??...all the best bex

[@neilcastell6951]

@@bexbugoutsurvivor ... I have the wisport 75L reindeer ... it’s probably one of the best civi packs I have used, very comfy for hiking or where you need mobility, I used it on a coastal hike/camp up and down ravines and it was stable and well balanced. I don’t know what the fabric is, but would guess 600D. I was intending to buy a Tasmanian Tiger but got directed to look at the wisport .... it’s very similar in size and design.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Great stuff, thanx.

[@moocher7336]

Don't worry it's not sugar.. it's cocaine!! Lmfao a little something for the weekend sir? 😂

[@drubber007]

11:47 can you give me more info on this item please mate? Couldn't see it on your amazon link. Excellent reviews as always!!

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

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[@drubber007]

@@bexbugoutsurvivor Cheers!

[@gooutgibbo9529]

Cheers for this info mate. I’m thinking of getting one as my woodland wild camping bag. Do you think it would be comfortable carrying the bag on long hikes?

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Yes, absolutely. The key to comfort on longer distance treks is carry only the basics, (shelter insulation & cook set) extras to consider include rain gear and sundries such as wash kit and illumination. Added to the base weight is water and food, (often the heaviest items). I carry the water on a shoulder sling using a LRRP bottle, to remove that 2 kilos of water from the pack, and off the back, and I replenish food daily from shops (where possible) so I am not carrying say a 3/7 days worth of food... The more you over think your pack contents the heavier and more uncomfortable it will become to use effectively. SIC KIT= S.helter (tarp or tent) I.nsulation (sleeping bag/quilt and ground pad/mat) C.ook set (stove & stove fuel cooking/drinking vessels) Anything else is a luxury..... I no longer take a full change of clothes, but pack only a change of underware and spare T shirt only. These guild lines apply to any pack/ruck..hope it helps bex

[@adlerarmory8382]

Is the MTP NI Issue Ruck made from original Crye 1000d Cordura Multicam or is it the Asian knockoff fabric in polyester?

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Google it.

[@jeffnix8549]

I like the no above all in com brilliant bag .pick two brand new up from car boot off ex ra f personall. £10 for the two bargain

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Great stuff...

[@danh8726]

Where is that tan dry bag from bex ? And yet another great vid mate and I prefer cocaine in my coffee rather than sugar sugar is bad for your teeth 😂😂

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

The dry bags are issue, so maybe a scout round the online surplus shops may throw something up. Think they are about 20 litres of hand...bex

[@danh8726]

@@bexbugoutsurvivor ah right I have got the green 1s in the video but never seen the tan 1s with the qr clips cheers for reply bex

[@hazzardoutdoors]

Give me sugar all day long...

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

😋

[@paulmerry6262]

Type 2 diabetes awaits you tho! It did me.