Warhammer 40K CHEAT Commits the ULTIMATE Sin!

[@SPedneau]

Hello, North, it's Sam. Thank you for reading the story and yes, I did have that "stepped on my grave" feeling. Writing this story and having you read it was actually very therapeutic. As for my thoughts on the debate, I do believe in principal that there are certain people who truly have no legit business having a firearm such as Sarevok. Be that as it may, laws can only do so much to stop guns from getting into the wrong hands which is why I support gun rights to make sure everyday citizens can defend ourselves from a Sarevok.

[@Backstabmacro]

Glad nothing happened to you, Sam. Thanks for the story submission!

[@SPedneau]

@@Backstabmacro I appreciate the sentiment and doing quite fine. I've never seen him carry the few times I've gamed with him or seen him at the game store before he got shamed out.

[@patrickcdavis7712]

There are 2 reasons to carry. One, in times of conflict, as a sword. The other, in times of peace, as a shield.

[@Backstabmacro]

@@SPedneau most people don’t open carry for obvious reasons. A lot of places you can, but no real reason not to conceal carry instead. Then again, some people don’t care much about rules or the feelings of other people.

[@edmott1138]

If he did not have a pistol, he would have used a knife It's the man, not the tool

[@brandonnisbet7208]

Semi-auto pistol is just a regular pistol. Semi auto means you pull the trigger and it shoots once. Then you need to pull it again for it to fire. Auto/automatic means you pull trigger and lots of rounds come out until you have none in the magazine. No need to worry even if British.

[@nestormentoso]

Back in 2013 here in Argentina there was a police strike, so all the scum got a free pass for one day in a few big cities. Needless to say that people who were armed were able to protect their property and their neighbors, while disarmed ones were in trouble.

[@clydemarshall8095]

Open carrying a pistol is entirely normal in large swaths of the United States. Arguments for both open and concealed carry exist, but I’d argue that it’s better if an erratic individual is carrying openly rather than concealed because at least you know he’s armed. A lot of erratic people could carry concealed without you ever knowing. Also we don’t know the full details of his case and we should not speculate on motivation. A lot of good self-defense shoots do look bad at first glance. Let the courts settle it. I still believe in the presumption of innocence.

[@Dram1984]

@@clydemarshall8095 also erratic and violent people aren’t generally bothered by laws so saying they aren’t allowed to carry a concealed firearm isn’t a guarantee that they won’t.

[@clydemarshall8095]

@@Dram1984 Yep. Someone intent on doing harm won't obey the law. Laws prohibiting the carrying of weapons will only ever hurt law abiding people who may become victims.

[@Backstabmacro]

Good takes here.

[@Archon762]

In the Midwest of US, I don't own any firearms but have been considering getting one with current times for home defense. I've however been told I'd be part of the problem with the "Scared and dumb people are the ones that shouldn't have guns" argument, but I'm more scared of what happens if I come across the mad and desperate that view me as a target and my not having a way to defend myself

[@thepoliticalgunnut8018]

Don't buy into anti gun scare nonsense. Alot of that comes from ignorance and a lifetime of media scaremongering. If you are an upstanding citizen of decent character, you could walk around conceal carrying a gun without even thinking of causing harm to anyone unless under threat for your life. No different to owning and driving a car in my opinion.

[@Hollar777]

Just as he said, all it is is fear mongering. The people telling you all that aren't the ones who are going to prioritize your safety or take care of you. Granted, do what feels comfortable for you, but you can also push your comfort zone by training and being familiar. Firearms are nothing but a tool and shouldn't be feared, but should still be respected

[@XRAY-556]

Find someone in the 2A community and tell them you don't know where to start and if they can show you the way. They'll trip over themselves welcoming you in. Not unlike the hobby space. Good luck.

[@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs]

Dude just buy a fire arm, train with it, and you will be more than capable of defending your loved ones, property & lives

[@SPedneau]

As others have said, don't let the fear persuade you otherwise. My wife felt the same way cause of childhood trauma involving firearms but now she carries too. What got her more comfortable was taking a basic class and getting some range time in.

[@Dram1984]

“Imagine living near Amsterdam” lol, I still get a kick out of how differently Europeans and Americans view distance. Most Americans would consider you practically next door to Amsterdam. Also as an American I do think it’s a good thing to be able to keep and bear arms but that obviously comes with risks and downsides which I also recognize.

[@hathatterhat]

It's like when Americans think things are far apart for them as a Canadian.

[@patrickcdavis7712]

​@@hathatterhat I can drive 6 hrs north, sleep, drive 6 more hours, sleep again, and still be 4 hours from the northernmost boundary of Texas. And I'm 45 minutes north of Southmost, in Brownsville. Close is a very relative term, kids...lol

[@darthsquidious5956]

Love your take, North. As an American it’s nice to see someone from the outside take a more nuanced stance on the gun debate. I think gun violence, like any other violence, is a mostly cultural issue. I’ll never trade my gun rights for the illusion of safety from the state. Personally, I think most anti-gun rhetoric is born of either ignorance or resentment of those who have the privilege of owning them. Firearms ownership demands responsibility and I think we should prioritize the re-modeling of our culture to accommodate it instead of rendering our people defenseless. The ability for a people to defend their self-interests is what separates citizens from subjects. We don’t expect foreigners to understand. Actual Americans don’t care either way.

[@ironbomb6753]

I'm totally in agreement that everyone who wants to carry a firearm can carry a firearm here in the US. I carry. I'm not afraid of anyone. A firearm equalzies everyone to a level playing field. That being said, I don't get into situations where violence is likely. But if the worst does happen, I'm not defenseless.

[@Backstabmacro]

It is the fundamental right and duty of the American citizen to own a firearm - be that for defense, leisure, or militia membership. Not everyone must take up this duty, and it is the responsibility of the bearer and those around them to assess their suitability to continue to carry and use firearms. TL;DR anyone can own a gun, however not everyone *should*

[@Backstabmacro]

I live somewhere increasingly unsavory and want to get one for defense at home, but wifey has reservations about it due to coming from a culture where they’re virtually nonexistent. She really didn’t have a good answer for the question I asked her though: “What will you do if I’m not here and someone starts kicking down the door? How will you protect yourself and our son?” She just didn’t have anything to say. It’s definitely a fear of mine that something will happen and I won’t be there or won’t have the tools to even the odds. We’re also considering moving away before too long, so multiple solutions are being worked on.

[@devonmann8461]

As an American, I've only had guns pulled on me in countries where guns are outlawed ironically. And its happened 3 times so far

[@Inquisitor_Grey]

Even as a new player he should have asked amongst communities whether that game was kosher. I would not give an army away in which I invested my time and money just because of one game. Cheaters exist with all games. Do your research before choosing just a strong reaction

[@Harem__King]

Every modern gun produced since the colt is semi automatic lol ppl are truly stupid 😅

[@Dominik189]

I'm a pro gun guy but even I think some people shouldn't carry. Owning firearms is fine, hunting or home defense, or what ever. But carrying takes a certain level of character.

[@Dram1984]

@@Dominik189 Same, it’s pretty self evident that some people shouldn’t be carrying firearms but I struggle with how to prevent it without also giving government power to stop other people for political and BS reasons. Just look at how hard it is to get a carry permit in places like New York where it’s technically legal but practically impossible unless you’re politically connected.

[@Dominik189]

@Dram1984 do what Lithuania does. Carry permit for Concealed Carry, revolvers only, require a class, test and psych evaluation, but make the permit an automatic issue upon request with the proofs of the class taken, test passed, psych evaluation passed. Then make the psych evaluation an annual thing every five years.

[@Dram1984]

@@Dominik189 I’d be okay with something along those lines. Similar to how some states do it here with “shall issue” laws, which basically means the state has to issue the permit unless they can show reason not to, but usually they also have pretty lax requirements like just a couple hour class, no criminal record, etc… the other way states do it is “may issue” which basically means you have to ask the state for permission and they basically always say no. The other issue in the US is that guns are so widely available there is basically no way at this point in time to stop bad people from getting a hold of one if they want so almost any barrier to buying one only really restricts law abiding people.

[@fertblusbenis5128]

​@@Dominik189i would argue that Lithuania has even better freedom loving gun laws then czechia but the weird law against autoloaders has no positive to it. I especially love about the Lithuanian gun laws that owning a full auto gun as a normal Lad isn't a unachievable or absurdly expensive. As a reservist who has done a certain number of weekend courses you can buy a new one directly from the manufacturer, in the US full auto guns are limited in number cuz of that law that was implemented in '86 and therefore cost at minimum as much as a new Car.

[@Dominik189]

@@fertblusbenis5128 the positive is that it makes autoloaders a bit harder to obtain for criminals. Though personally if I was writing such a law I would leave an exemption for hammer fired, single stack magazine autoloaders that have an manual safety and a capacity not exceeding 10 rounds. Reloading an autoloader is fast so the round count aint much of a hindrance. Though I believe tjat the speed and ease of reloading are the cited reasons why Lithuania has limited autoloaders. Probably in hopes of giving an edge to their police officers.

[@mrnik.0]

As a German, I can tell you, black white and red is an absolute banger of a colour scheme, but sadly, due to unrelated issues, it's culturally forbidden to use it here else you earn bad looks and get labeled as... well you can figure what you're gonna get labeled around here. Bums me out a bit tbh, but yeah. Black/white + orange or Black/White + neon blue are both awesome colour schemes, too

[@CaveManTactics]

to mag dump into a person is outright manslaughter. i open carry but ive thankfully never had to draw but good lord

[@samwisegame-geek3392]

If the guy had two lord invocartus he can't. They are epic heroes and you can only field one. That would be like taking two angron

[@davidfromkyushu6870]

Do 40K players not keep their codexes at hand in case someone calls them on dubious "rules?" If I play any games where someone says they can't be shot because of an army rule, I ask to see it.

[@Winter-Nine]

Christ these nightmares went from 1 to 100 quick 😂

[@margaretwood152]

▶️ 28:28 = •••Well said, ⬆️ North ⬆️

[@dtkoehler563]

I own and conceal carry a gun every day. It is an important responsibility and should never be taken lightly. If you have mental issues like this guy then you should not carry.

[@slayer6316]

Happy days North im going threw some rough times but the content you make really seams to help at times and I just wanted to wish you well

[@darko-man8549]

Japan allows gun ownership but has very strict rules over it and it seems to work pretty well

[@williamwilson4049]

The right to Bear Arms is the Right of self-defense, we had this right before we had guns it applied to the weapons of the time. Christ said to keep a sword to protect yourself from evil, but these days a sword is useless agains modern weapons so we have modern weapons.

[@Daemonik]

_Goes fo Amsterdam for a breakup recovery_ _Spends the time playing Warhammer_ Dude. Edit: final story. I live in the UK, and am happy firearms are rare here. If i lived in the USA, i would absolutely make sure i immediately did all i could do own and carry a firearm.

[@chris-mf6sv]

I’m American, I believe all law abiding citizen should own guns. But what people fail to see is that our first amendment of freedom of speech and our second amendment of our right to bear arms are a two sided coin. We have freedom of speech because we have firearms

[@stevenmcgrath5114]

Had it not been fir Black Templars. I would have most DEFINITELY a Dark Angles player ! ! !

[@TheDanskMagnus]

Hello North, catching this story a few days late, but I do have a few thoughts on Sam's story. I live in one of the most conservative and gun friendly states in America and personally own multiple firearms. While both Open and Concealed carry are legal in my state, a business is perfectly within it's right to prohibit someone carrying a weapon on their premises. But, in my opinion, if you feel like you need to open carry in a restaurant, game store, or theater... you're pretty cringe. Seriously, if there was a crazed gunman looking to do crazed gunman shit, he's probably going to neutralize the open carry guy 1st. Keep your weapon status on the downlow. Oh and it's NEVER allowed to carry in any manner while intoxicated so keep it out of the bar.

[@systemerror6312]

One of my best mates moved from the uk to America & first thing I asked him was “have you got a gun yet?” 🤷‍♂️🤣

[@bamboebahr2470]

Happy early birthday north :)

[@drmwatson15]

I'm not pro guns but i endorse responsible gun use. Gun control is important, if only to keep weapons out of hands of people like Sarevok.

[@andrewm.9025]

If a criminal wants a weapon then they'll find a way to get one. All gun control does is keep firearms out of the hands of law abiding citizens. The only thing I see the US needs is stricter background checks on purchases. In many states you can go to purchase and walk out in less than 30min with a firearm without showing any type of proof of being a responsible gun owner( no classes, no experience, no registering the said weapon, no knowledge what so ever); just an ID with no felonies, and the money.

[@drmwatson15]

@@andrewm.9025 Not going to get drawn into a disagreement but I agree with everything you've said while standing by my own points. I guess I come from a country where people don't need firearms and our laws keep them out of the hands of criminals (mostly).

[@madartist1000]

Happy early birthday 🎉

[@SuperMac442]

Disappointed with your take, North. Ill happily keep living in Australia where im not having to worry about my kid being shot at school

[@Grintendo]

I'm one of the most chilled out calm people you will meet. I have a reputation for it. And I wouldn't trust myself with a gun. Everyone has moments (especially men) where they see red and at least in England it comes to blows. One punch can still kill but a lot less than everyone being equipped.

[@Dram1984]

@@Grintendo I’ve never started a fight and have de-escalated every conflict I’ve ever been in. So not, not everyone gets violent when they are upset. In fact one thing carrying a weapon teaches you is how serious violence is. Because if you get in a fight it’s automatically a gun fight and there’s a good chance someone dies. This gives you a huge incentive to avoid violence.

[@Grintendo]

Of course not everyone gets violent. Your answer is all from your perspective and your control. It takes two to argue and you can't guarantee the same rational response. Difference with no guns it is far likely to be not fatal.

[@Dram1984]

@@Grintendo But with a firearm I also know that I have the best possible way to defend myself and my family if someone does decide to get violent despite my best efforts.

[@clydemarshall8095]

There is a reason their is a saying that an armed society is a polite society.

[@Dram1984]

@@Grintendo But with a firearm I know that I have the best possible way to defend myself and my family if someone else decides to get violent. I would much rather have it and never need it than need it and not have it.

[@williamwilson4049]

I carry 2 guns.

[@ZacSheehy]

Im from the UK and im of the opinion that people in the USA can keep there guns along as they are happy to live with the obvious consequences. Personally there is no way i would be anywhere near the states. Norths mate Ricardo is a highly trained individual who has spent years training his mind and body to be a responsible person who is worthy of such power. But it is nort in the face of a degenerate with a gun and an itchy finger. If im honest i don't see American as a civilised country,im not saying thats a fact merely an opinion, And please understand that im not attacking American people you have to understand that where im from you show respect by giving an honest opinion and not sugar coating it.

[@clydemarshall8095]

Since we’re being open and honest, I consider it dangerous and cowardly to surrender your ability to defend yourself. Being disarmed is not civilized. It’s naive. We demand freedom and accept the responsibility that comes with it. Or at least some of us do. You should also know that most of the U.S. is not full of anarchy and people shooting each other. The places with the worst gun violence in this country are those with the strictest gun laws. I have a lot of respect and admiration for the British isles as I owe much of my nation’s cultural heritage to yours, but I deeply disagree with the direction you went on the right to arms. It used to be British common law that accepted freemen’s right to keep and bear arms. We inherited that belief from you. It was the British army troops seeking to confiscate our arms at Concord that first initiated hostilities in the Revolutionary War. The crown’s representatives sought to trample on a right Englishmen held sacrosanct and we resisted. I think it’s tragic that you gave that up.

[@ZacSheehy]

It's funny how different we are as a people. I am perfectly able to defend myself and I don't need a gun because I live in a civilised society despite our problems. I believe if one thinks that you can't defend yourself without a gun or some other weapon for that matter that is in itself cowardly. But then I don't live in a country where carrying a gun is considered normal or alright thank god.

[@clydemarshall8095]

@@ZacSheehy I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. You think I am uncivilized, and I think you are deeply naive. Thank heaven we both live in places that suit us I guess.

[@fertblusbenis5128]

You aren't able to defend yourself. Even if a criminal isn't breaking the gun laws he can simply put you in an indefensible situation by showing up with 3 or 4 of his buddies. Also your point of view is that of a able bodied man and not that of a Lady or a Old person or someone with limited mobility. The Police are minutes away if you get into a situation where every second counts. ​@@ZacSheehy

[@ZacSheehy]

Indeed! You may think I'm naïve but I don't think you are uncivilised,I think your country is,and its gun laws are the tip of that iceberg but that is another conversation for another day and merely my opinion. Thank god I live in the country that I do and not under the tyranny of your freedom, because if I lived in your country I'd have to carry a gun not because I wanted to but just to stay in the running. I guess you can soak up the gun violence being such a large country the last few years the death rate has been around 40,000* a year that's like two small towns in the UK. Now add the injuries and the families who lost a loved one! Maybe people like you feel it's a small price to pay? Personally I don't agree if that's the case. At least you had a quiet year in 2024 with about 11,000, but at least you can have your gun right?I just hope you don't pay the price for that freedom. Having said all that keep your guns the jinn is out of the bottle its way too late for your country. *In 2023, 43,163 people died from gun-related injuries in the US In 2022, 48,204 people died from gun-related injuries in the US In 2021, 48,830 people died from gun-related injuries in the US

[@redgreen09]

well me if had to go in a gameing store that guys are caring guns i nope out to it and tell the guy who run it why do NOT what guns that real in that shop if that bad this shud not be the olny gun shud be the docca the orks have NOT the one playing orks this why have crap like thiss UUUUUUUUGGGGGGGG how is this a thing in fist place ???????? yes shops not best neber hoods but YASH