MPG X670E CARBON WIFI memory socket replacement

[@edwardhewer8530]

Ok everyone, you know what to do. Every time you send package to NWR you include a piece of broken dark tempered glass. Seriously though it is most likely glass from owners PC case windows. Remember you receive a lot of damaged equipment most likely from falls etc…

[@Fan-lq6uv]

My computer doesn't have any dark tempered glass, only clear ones (Thermaltake Tower 500). Do I need to get dark tempered glass and break em if I were to send anything for NWR to fix? /s

[@edwardhewer8530]

@@Fan-lq6uv yep

[@krzbrew]

@@Fan-lq6uv Go for it

[@ChrisFaulkner]

You have to make him wonder about things every now and then. Makes life interesting

[@nowloadingvids1972]

yes. absolutely ​@@Fan-lq6uv

[@king_of_savagery6289]

Also, I just wanted to add. I really, really appreciated you slowing down and explaining the soldering process this time rather than fast forwarding through it. Loved hearing you explain the process and why you were doing what you did. I would love to hear you explain like this when you do another re-ball. It would be awesome to hear how that works. Thanks! Awesome video! Cheers!

[@Splarkszter]

Yes. Soldering is the most important.

[@king_of_savagery6289]

@@Splarkszter 100% agree. I haven't really deep deep delved into soldering, but he is the most experienced and knowledgeable professional I've been able to find on youtube. They always say, "If you want to be great at something - find whoever is the best at the skill/trade you trying to learn, latch on, and soak up everything they're willing to share about it." And he's a total G at soldering, hands down.

[@sarahdaviscc]

100% - super curious to hear our host step us through recalling a GPU core rather than skip through it with a montage.

[@Robin-ro5ee]

As for the tempered glass. I myself just experienced this when purchasing a used motherboard. When the board arrived I found shards off glass in the anti static bag and when I started disassembling the board to clean and inspect I found quite a bit more. 99% sure the previous owner was careless and broke one of their tempered glass panel while the components where still in the case. Still finding bits of that glass in my office to this day. What a pain.

[@Splarkszter]

lol

[@thekevaroo]

the damage to the board was caused when something either went through the glass side panel and hit the motherboard or it was damaged in transit / shipping as a completed unit thus breaking the side panel. That would explain the damage to the memory and the top PCI-E slot as the GPU would have been whacked. it also explains why you are finding shards of that glass in the shrouds!

[@idoruhman]

Was about to write this. with all the glass side panels nowadays, it's more than likely that a PC that was amaged during shipping would have glass shards.

[@DuncanApex]

I feel so humble when watching your video

[@globesurfer7481]

Never seen a professionnal like you! Really fantastic job!

[@alankelter9416]

This video is like watching Darth Vader repair the deathstars main board. Never had to replace one of those slots before and I'm thinking it don't look all that much fun to do.

[@Fan-lq6uv]

They aren't. I tried fixing an old 72 pin slot from a 486 computer. Fewer layers, fewer pins, and still a pain in the ass 30+ years ago. I swore to never try and fix motherboard if it's not broken caps.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😂

[@samm928]

Just get a new motherboard .. Get an Asus next time.

[@Fan-lq6uv]

@@samm928 I'm using 4 years old Prime x570 Pro and AMD 5800x3D. No issue so far

[@samm928]

@@Fan-lq6uv I got a Gigabyte B650 Aorus ultra ITX .. for a small form factor build .. PCIe5 ready .. VRM and SSD get hot to the touch .. I have a 7950x3d plugged in it ..

[@teddp]

Now I'm really curious if this board works. I hope we get an update from the owner.

[@MasterJediSean]

I've had the same problem with being able to confirm functionality, So I broke into my piggy bank and picked up a few Celeron CPU's for the LGA 1151 / 1200 / 1700, you can snag them like $30-40 now and then from Amazon or something like that. Unfortunately there is not any budget CPU's for AM5, cheapest is $180. I really enjoyed watching this repair and would love to see more of these kinds of videos as you seem to be great at repairing motherboards as well. Possibly a CPU socket replacement, many people damage the Socket pins and would easily pay $100 for a re-ball replacement of their socket, or any problem for that matter. Cheers Tony!

[@Splarkszter]

Sometimes you can find cheap used AM5 OEM CPU's

[@Splarkszter]

yeah. 7500f for 100

[@Foxx_69]

Strange thing .. the glass. I dunno how people do this stuff to these expensive boards. Cool Watching you fix em

[@Dandan-tg6tj]

Never underestimate stupidity and lack of thinking ahead. Some years back I gave away a PC to someone. The guy was only able to go down two stair steps and while he was standing there baffled, the computer hit the ground with a loud noise. I was so pissed off I took the computer back and closed the door.

[@Del_UK]

Memory slots. UDIMM is general memory and RDIMM is normally for ECC memory. Most consumer based motherboards use UDIMM. The top PCI Express slots looks damaged (Top part looks bowed out), due to a heavy graphics card not being properly supported. Even the metal reinforced slots still need a graphics card to be supported. Fantastic workmanship. As for flux, there is an Aussie called Dave(?), who runs a electronics repair channel. I seem to remember, he did a video on different fluxes. Maybe you could find some information there?

[@edalecu]

yes, U stands for Unbuffered and R stands for Registered (buffered). UDIMM slots are used in consumer or entry-level workstation motherboards and RDIMM slots are used in server or high-end workstation boards. The flux products comparison would be great for a @ProjectFarm video

[@northwestrepair]

​@@edalecu If most consumer boards use UDIMM, why in the world china sells RDIMM testers and requiring UDIMM adapter ? Seems like its the opposite. I am not saying you are wrong, i am just confused as to why tester for servers is available but for regular boards its not. Weird.

[@edalecu]

​@@northwestrepair well, I guess that given the much higher price tag of the server boards, there is a larger market for repairing them... than for repairing consumer boards, so the tools availability reflects that. This is just a guess, though 🧐

[@alincocos7076]

There are motherboards where you can use ecc or non ecc memory modules. It's about the cpu if it can work with ecc or non ecc. They are the same size until ddr4. It seems that on ddr 5 is no longer the case. If you have a cpu that supports ecc, you need a motherboard that has rdimm in order to use ecc memory. Another win for the company

[@Del_UK]

@@alincocos7076 I should have put DDR5 in the comment. Watching the video on DDR5 slots being changed, did not expect a comment on DDR4. DDR4 with the unbuffered/buffered memory slots on consumer motherboards were AMD based and a real pain in the ass, to find ECC memory to work. It was hard enough to have regular unbuffered memory to work.

[@jimspc07]

Nice to see someone doing it properly with the solder and most importantly the flux. I agree with you on lead vs unleaded solder. Also, I get browned off with the many, but not all, KZbin cowboys and their dry u-bend type soldering irons all black and burned. Never tinning or reflowing on an old solder joint "whats that! Naaa, just hit it with the iron and puuuullll or lever it off" attitude, as solder is just as handy on removing parts and cleaning the pads as fixing them in place.

[@seanmaier4941]

Cool to see you work on more then just GPUs

[@dolphhandcreme]

What temperature where you using on the hotair to solder the sockets?

[@xtinct16]

26:20 UDIMM = Unbuffered Dual Inline Memory Module, it is used on consumer products RDIMM = Registered Dual Inline Memory Module, it is used on servers.

[@mikeschneider3648]

I have fixed those before, mind a much older board (early 2000s), and I actually own this board (what is used with my MSI RTX 4090 Gaming X trio. It's a trip to see this video. TY!!

[@fichambawelby2632]

As ever, another excellent and extremely clean job done. Congrats! I'm sure it will work.

[@Ancientreapers]

2:53 I remember some of those vids where you found glass. Looks like Brown Beer Bottle Glass.

[@mjarefi]

I was waiting for desktop motherboard repair from TONI similar to the Graphic card repair method yourself

[@Ozzy_Helix_]

I have this exact board and I am learning some important info about it thank you for this info now I know to be more careful with it

[@Anthony-fd8mh]

Man I really wish you included the video of you removing the cover near the I/O shield as I have a MEG Ace Z790 MB and I'm dreading the day I have to change the MB battery because they tuck it under that cover and I'm really hoping when that day comes I do not have to take out my entire MB from my case just to change it. Love watching you work!👍

[@JETWTF]

The decorative cover and heatsink is screwed in from the back, if you have a solid or hole just big enough to access the CPU backplate motherboard tray then complete removal will be needed.

[@Anthony-fd8mh]

@@JETWTF Thats what I was afraid of kind of dumb to design a board that you have to remove it from the entire case just to change a MB battery..Sigh oh well I hope it will at least last 3-5 years before it diies. I could find no instructions on how to remove that cover even in the manual. Thanks for the info.

[@HardWhereHero]

@@Anthony-fd8mh 2032's last upward of 10 years in a mobo

[@Anthony-fd8mh]

@@HardWhereHero plenty of MB don’t have that my last two boards didn’t have that.

[@teknologyguy5638]

Enjoy this stream very time I catch it.... something I've always wanted to do if I ever have the money...

[@Turco949]

12:16 What issues does the "cheap" flux cause exactly? Being new to this, I couldn't even tell whether the flux I got on Amazon is good or bad! How can I check or know beforehand?

[@firsh]

Because the VRM heatsink screws are on the opposite side and it's needed to be removed in order to reach/change the battery eventually, I'd need to take the board out of the case?

[@xAndrzej42]

I really like the quality of these mobos. Got b550 so far not complaining, really solid, could mount massive cpu cooler no problem.

[@70ixlr86]

Have you ever reballed a socket? Or is that not a thing? Hear about bent pins and such, but do the cpu sockets ball to the boards?

[@Foxx_69]

Where can i find some information on converting the temperature sensor?? I wanted to move mine off the plates . Any tips?

[@aron1980s]

So where are you finding these parts? I'm activly looking as I bought a X670E from Asus with a damaged slot 3 and I have the equipment and prior experience to pull this repair off I just for the love of me can't find parts!

[@northwestrepair]

AliExpress, digikey or mouser. Sometimes Amazon or eBay. Depends on how fast I need it and if quality vs quantity matters.

[@aron1980s]

@northwestrepair awesome I've came up mostly empty with digikey and eBay somehow haven't heard of mouser so I'll give that a scour. Thanks!

[@s3psa]

MSI board with rog strix socket cover. Kind of curious what's the story of this board

[@nichenson7987]

The offset slot on DDR5 is different between UDIMM and RDIMM. This was one of a couple of changes with the newer standard. This keeps you from putting RDIMMs in a UDIMM slot and vice versa. With DDR4 and earlier, they were the same which would cause issues as they are not interchangeable. That board uses UDIMMs as most desktop computers do. The exceptions are the threadripper and xeon workstation boards. Those as well as most server hardware use RDIMMS

[@Gogargoat]

Could alpha particles from Lead-containing solder cause issues for memory chips?

[@georgedone7997]

RDIMM are for Registered(Buffered) DIMMS - those are typically installed on servers (sometimes also on Workstations) and the registers(buffers) reduce the load on Data/Address pins so more (than 4) DIMMs can be accessed by those busses. UDIMMs are Unbuffered DIMMS - those are the typical dimms used on "inexpensive" PCs (do "inexpensive" still exist) ? Regarding the PCI-E last 2 connections, I wonder if the ground anchor nearby also gave way a bit allowing the slot to move slightly and the traces to be ripped, I would touch it with a bit of lead solder, just to be sure.

[@MrDabadabadu]

Glass explains what is going on with board. It was part of computer with case with tempered glass that was damaged during the shipment. SO board or sometimes GPU suffers damage and you find pieces of tempered glass stuck in area of board that was not easy to clean for regular user.These DDR5 slots were obviously damage with force the same as main GPU socket. It's metal shim, and retention clip that is broken (missing) can be explained by damage during the shipment.

[@Alan_Skywalker]

RDIMM stands for server's registered(buffered) memory. UDIMM stands for normal unbuffered memory.

[@kelvinjinxd]

I got 2 of this boards. The plastic dimm slot is weak. I shattered one slot during installation. It is still functional with some superglue.

[@edalecu]

lol

[@bakzetary3145]

Excellent delicate work!

[@Adesterr]

Can you please make an update when the customer tested the boards? I am really curious about the success of this "blind" repair.

[@HardWhereHero]

if its broken, it has nothing to do with the repair.

[@iwanhoogeveen6065]

How is it that you can heat up the solder without melting the memory socket?

[@edalecu]

I guess that the plastic used for the slots is somewhat heat resilient and the main key I think is the temperature control. That's why he uses the thermal probe in contact with the board, very near the work zone. And there is also the "low-melt" solder that needs much lower temperature to melt.

[@MegaChickenPunch]

high temp plastics

[@jamesmelandry3595]

Did you make the pre-heater?

[@cm84487]

you'll have to give us an update on if the fix worked

[@Naushadkhan78623]

Which software are you using to test memory status

[@waynetaylor2784]

Tony you got a link to the dimm socket I got 2 same boards to replace, must be thing with these boards ? Cheers

[@northwestrepair]

search aliexpress for DDR5 UDIMM

[@waynetaylor2784]

UDIMM on 99% consumer main board

[@demis56]

Greetings , Congratulations for your Channel. Do you fix/replace bent pins in the CPU socket for 1700 intel? thank you

[@troy8736]

Oh Man, Nice job...I'm confident it will be OK....

[@Google_Is_Evil]

When a delivery van gets broken into, or the people loading it are careless, they break tinted windows, that shatter all over the parcels inside the van. Usually the glass doesn't get cleaned out meticulous enough so it will "emerge" inside parcels that get transported in the van weeks after.

[@sevagtankabalian91]

Nice job out there, but you could have used kapton tape to cover the neighboring sockets

[@sniperla_666]

Your beloved Work on an Mainboard that you so much love! 😂

[@AmadonFaul]

Have you ever put a wattmeter on your preheater/top heater setup and noted what the absolute peak draw was? I'm building the equivalent of an IR6500 with a slightly smaller preheater wattage, but my whole apartment pretty much uses one 15A breaker that constantly trips and I'm hoping I can keep the peak it reaches for current draw around 8-9 amps but I kinda doubt it. If not I have to run a heavy extension cord up from the basement just to run it whenever I need it, which I would like to avoid. There's an outlet down there for the bilge pump that has its own breaker.

[@BelowAmbient]

why is that mobo $397??? help me understand

[@MegaChickenPunch]

sounds like a scam

[@Simpleman1995]

nice Work sir as always👌

[@lucataszarek8782]

Noce job thys manebord has two PCH?

[@shrekoc5570]

X670 is just two PROM21 chips as opposed to B650's one

[@Majorillin]

Thank you Teacher

[@king_of_savagery6289]

Yeah I 100% agree with @edwardhewer8530 . A lot of people get pre-builts and they get broken and/or destroyed in shipment, as most times when they're sent, they come fully assembled. The RAM is one of the things that tend to break the most along with the liquid AIO coolers as well as the GPU's. That tends happens when the glass breaks. Though sometimes it happens without the glass breaking as well. Cheers!

[@michaeloconnor119]

Whats your opinion of ASRock and the quality?

[@EatSleepLiiV]

the glass is most likley coming from broken PC case fronts from transit also probably why there on your bench from the damage they received in said transit

[@ShaggySVK]

The glass shards theory: Customers have had PC with glass side panel that broke (most likely during impact) that likely resulted in you being involved in repair.

[@jimbodabimbo1483]

I have this same motherboard. Only problems I've had are the wifi chip dying within the first 2 months and MSI ignoring my repair requestS, and some quirky in-windows behavior that I can only assume is BIOS/driver related...in spite of the occasion format/install/latest drivers - no change

[@mrovi789]

OMG you didnt use the anti-glare lens that are in stock!

[@Taske666]

when changing an LGA Socket due broken pins? :D

[@scottstamm7022]

Broken tempered glass = those are parts pulls from 'prebuilds' that were scrapped out, probably damaged in transit and parted out.

[@Beefbus]

That makes sense.

[@CM-xr9oq]

Different DDR5 socket? You sure that you/supplier weren't confusing DD4 and DDR5 sockets?

[@SKILIASHOSSAINCREATION]

The glass could be the broken piece of pc case side panel that may be damaged and got in there during shipment

[@1998eclipse1998]

STIRRI V3-TF has a sweet smell and works pretty good but MECHANIC high activity 223 works great and has pretty much the same smell and color to what you have in that syringe

[@deputydawg3215]

I was hoping for you using a pick , and pushing on each solder connection saying solid on each one LOL🤠😎🧔‍♂

[@ChristopherBurtraw]

You watch TronicsFix?

[@ExzeroX]

Man I used to LOVE the smell of the 215... It was kinda like a spicy or Cinnamon smell. I miss getting amtech flux, It's just such a hassle to buy small amounts of it, I have just settled for cheaper stuff.

[@HardWhereHero]

What do you use now?

[@ExzeroX]

@@HardWhereHero In my country, there is a local company called Chemtools, and they sell a flux with the code, NC-TAC2-S10-PT. I am not sure if it is a custom order thing only as it is not on there website, and the way I got the flux, is a sales rep came to my workplace, asked me about what kind of flux I wanted and he sent me this along with a reorder form and ever since I have just used the reorder form and placed the order with them.

[@ZoeyR86]

ship gaming pc in a black pc case with a glass side panel and shit packaging. gpu will pop loose and hit the glass and pop damaged PCB on the gpu and maybe a damaged pcie slot a clue is the locking tab will be damaged or missing

[@4sp3ro]

Thanks big bus

[@northwestrepair]

lol

[@andrewchristiansen8311]

I'm giving this a shot I have a hot air station and a cell phone screen heater for delaminating screens & an old lga 1366 board that needs two ram slots replaced or its stuck at 16gb. having 24 for my NVR would be nice. Thanks! I get my Amtech flux from Lois rossmans shop, Idk how he always has it lol

[@LautaroQ2812]

This is the only ASMR I am ok with.

[@2xKTfc]

14:45 so shiny! 🤗

[@ahayesm]

RDIMM means "registered dual inline memory module" you would only find RDIMM sockets on workstation/server motherboards that take registered ecc memory.

[@ernestg.harveyjr7087]

that board was more than likely in a pc that was dropped or damaged in shipping

[@laboratorioassembler]

Sorin: dis is creeezy!!!

[@aliensounddigital8729]

Was thinking about getting this one for the Ryzen 9000.

[@MegaChickenPunch]

get b650 instead

[@V10-o9y]

So you doing repairs for motherboards too know?

[@intoxicode]

The pieces of glass are very obvious it's side panels for cases that someone keeps shattering I'm assuming these are probably damaged stock/RMAs that people keep sending you for repair..😮

[@esurf75]

Amazing

[@worroSfOretsevraH]

And no short's has fallen victims to this repair.

[@gamingscreen12]

16:40 indeed, indeed

[@taskinyucekurt]

Those piece of glasses coming from side glasses of cases, it is tempered glass and when you do something to that glass it turns in to million tiny little pieces.. Try to drill a hole on it even that will turn that glass to millon pieces right away..

[@supernova874]

Yeah as @CoinRingsUSA suspects ,must have dropped the tower and has a temperate glass as side panel (mine have too) and from the fall break the glass and from the weight of the Dimms break the socket , the metalic frame above pcie is for extra protection against heavy gpu that will protect the socket , they called them Armored PCI-E .

[@michaelgleason4791]

Considering the state of this motherboard, I'd say that glass is chipped off of the side panel of the case it was in.

[@PHLocalExtremeSports]

so new motherboard right now the RAM slot is smd type of mounting if accendentaly rip it will rip also the trace line.. omg

[@fredygump5578]

I think it is important to keep the glass and see if the pieces fit together. They might be clues!

[@dzoks-e7n]

nice job.

[@Apollo-Computers]

Yep that smoked/tinted tempered glass. I really dont know how people break so much pc stuff

[@DJDocsVideos]

rage kicking

[@samm928]

Yeahh .. I know all about it .. I've been designing PCB layouts for 30 years

[@LORISSABOOBMAN]

side panel glass chard as intended, tempered glass.

[@Retro-Iron11]

They are sending you parts of your favorite glass window you forgot about until the ransom is paid. Keep it all and make a mosaic from them.

[@richteritwan]

@NorthWestRepair Do a vid on your journey of how you got into electronics repair. Also, showcase your personal rig and test bench?

[@northwestrepair]

I watched a lot of KZbin.

[@aliemlek]

👍👍👍

[@acaaew]

Hopefully the 2 pins on the pci-e slot he repaired have nothing to do with power because those wires will turn into a puff of smoke within seconds with any RTX card. They probably have nothing to do with power because the traces looked pretty small.

[@JETWTF]

Broken dark tempered glass included with every repair package... from the cases broken side panel that broke at the same time the part did from the same cause. And to think the owner is going to find glass side panel chunks for years. Like glitter if you think you found it all and cleaned it up... think again.

[@MasterJediSean]

I like clean holes too! lol

[@kulilin3104]

That looks like the exact same mobo I use for my PC. MSI MPG x670e Carbon Wifi.

[@Rmm1722]

Interesting 🤔

[@DaleC.]

The glass is from when the user punched the case after an expensive failure

[@DevilbyMoonlight]

surface mount pcie slots with modern heavy gpu's has got to be asking for a failure..

[@oussamaassal5588]

26:44 14 days shipping 😮, an dyou are way too far from china, i live not that far from china and packages are taking from 1 month to 3 months ... stupid local costumes and local post office... 😢

[@HammaGaming]

16:45 🥸