MSI MPG X670E CARBON WIFI, definitely an improvement, but…

[@Vannellus]

No Thunderbolt/USB4.0 = 2x Gen5 M.2 x4 without sharing any lane. Good choice from MSI. In my opinion. I never needed a Thunderbolt and I don't need an USB4.0. And I like the possibility to plug 2 Gen5 M.2 with full speed and without downgrading the PCIe_1 to 8x. Is it the only board doing it this way? Well done, MSI. So, no big nono. Biiig yesyes.

[@alexandremonfray568]

Sure about the lane not being halved ? If it is, it might be my next board : as the halving bandwidthes on ASUS X670E-E seem pointless to me

[@Vannellus]

@@alexandremonfray568 Yes, sure. The only sharing is between PCIe_1 + PCIe_2, if u install e.g. 2 GPUs. Then both slots run on 8x. Just read the (f....) manual. 😉

[@alexandremonfray568]

@@Vannellus thanks for the answer man ! So, just to be absolutely sure : If I go with the Asus X670E-E, I could potentially go with - 1 PCIe 5 x 16 GPU (RTX 5000?) - 2 Gen 5 x 4 M2 slots used - 1 Gen 4 x 4 Chipset M2 slot used - (not using the 3rd Gen 5 x 4 M2 slot to not halve the bandwidthes with the main PCIe 5 x 16 slot) > Without anything being halved in the bandwidth right (or just the last Gen 4 M2 being slightly slowed ?) + being able to OC the CPU with the external clock generator on the Mobo. Otherwise, if I go with the MSI X670e Carbon and go with : - 1 PCIe 5 x 16 GPU (RTX 5000 ?) - 2 Gen 5 x 4 M2 slots used - 1 Gen 4 x 4 M2 slot used - 1 Gen 4 x 4 Chipset M2 slot used > With maybe the last 2 Gen 4 M2 slots sharing some bandwidth together and being a little bit slowed, BUT not being able to OC the CPU with a external clock generator (absent on the board) ? Let me know if I recall correctly, it's a little bit hard for me to understand it all.

[@Vannellus]

​@@alexandremonfray568 I am not sure about the M.2_2 on the Asus. It's very far away from the CPU, so I think it runs on the PCH. Would mean, the PCH gets 8 lanes, not only 4. It's stated as sharing free, but because of the layout it could not be linked directly to the CPU. Why u would overclock an AMD AM5? It's not recommended and fast enough for everything out there.

[@firsh]

One thing to consider, if next series of VGAs will come with PCIE5, then halving their lanes will mean Gen5 x8 which is the same bandwidth as Gen4 x16 which is hard to saturate still. If you put a current Gen4 card in other motherboards that drop the lane count to x8, they will still operate at Gen4 x8 = Gen3 x16 speed, which can have an impact. What I'm trying to say is that dropping to x8 might not be such a big deal once cards are Gen5. This card has the Gen4 M2 slots all on the chipset. From the manualy of this, this was interesting: "This product contains an irreplaceable battery." WTF From the ASUS' manual: When M.2_3 is enabled, PCIEX16_1 will run x8 and PCIEX16_2 will run x4

[@valhallasashes4354]

When it comes to the comparison you made regarding the X670E-E Gaming WiFi, while I would agree that most people aren't going to use dual GPU's, I disagree about that being the main point of consideration. See the problem with the Gaming WiFi is that yes, you get up to 3 Gen 5 NVME, what it is not advertised, not addressed by your review and only outlined in the manual, is that in order to use 3 Gen5 NVMEs, you have to sacrifice half of your bandwidth in the main x16 PCIE slot. And if you don't want to sacrifice that bandwidth to your graphics card (like lets say in the event Nvidia or AMD release a Gen5 GPU that actually uses that bandwidth), you wouldn't be able to do that on the Gaming Wifi without sacrificing the use of that entire M.2 slot. Limiting you to only being able to use 3 NVME drives instead of 4. Where as in my opinion, the Carbon makes the smarter move of running 2 NVME drives to CPU Gen 5, and 2 NVME drives to chipset Gen 4. This is the have your cake and eat it scenario where you can have 4 NVME drives and Gen 5 GPU all running without having to sacrifice anything major. IE, would I rather sacrifice a little bandwidth on one NVME, or would rather be forced to choose between losing an M.2 slot entirely or losing half my GPU bandwidth. I know if it were me, I'd much prefer to sacrifice half of one out of four NVME's bandwidth than have to sacrifice half of my only GPU's PCIE bandwidth. I know it's not a big issue today, but that doesn't mean it's not going to matter in the future. And since I build my computer to last me several years, I can't ignore future possibilities and try to build as smartly as possible to give me the most functionality today, without potentially and unnecessarily roadblocking myself in the future because I made a sacrifice today, that I really shouldn't have because I didn't properly consider future trends. Especially if that mistake runs the risk of losing my ability to use a device entirely and even more especially if I had grown to rely on that functionality. In my opinion, between the Carbon and the X670E-E Gaming Wifi, I think the Carbon has the much better PCIE configuration. In much more important ways than the highlighted dual GPU scenario. And I definitely think it makes it worth giving the Carbon a second consideration. Also, for reference, currently, as far as I'm aware, there is only one other motherboard that uses the same PCIE configuration as the Carbon, and that's the Crosshair Hero. Honestly, I think those two boards use their available PCIE lanes in a better, smarter way than even the higher end more expensive motherboards like the Ace, Crosshair Extreme, Taichi, and Godlike do.

[@alexandremonfray568]

I'm having the EXACT same questions in my head right now, which board did you go for ? I'm planning for either the X670E Carbon or the X670E-E + one 2To Gen4 M2 + 2x32 Go DDR5 CL30. I want to buy the coming PCIe5 RTX5000 down the road + 2 Gen5 M2 once they get cheaper. I think that with the Carbon it would be the best configuration for this "best of all worlds" gaming setup. Thanks for the answers 🙏

[@valhallasashes4354]

​@@alexandremonfray568 It was a close race between the Cosshair Hero and the Carbon, but I ended up going with the MSI X670E Carbon WiFi. In the end, it was the better and more versatile all rounder. Plus I ended up finding out a couple more things about the Crosshair Hero that were serious enough to make me re-evaluate that board in a more critical light. While I did properly consider the X670E-E Gaming WiFi from a technical point of view (I always study the manuals of every motherboard I consider buying for a build) the X670E-E Gaming WiFi was never really in the running for purchase for me because I don't like it's PCIE configuration. I am using 4 NVME drives on the board (all of them Gen4 at moment, but I'll consider a Gen5 in the future when the prices and temps become more sane.), so I needed 4 usable NVME slots and I didn't want to sacrifice half my GPU lanes to get them. Especially since like you, I am also waiting for next gen before I look to upgrade my GPU (currently still running a 2080Ti) and I don't want to assume that Gen5 x16 won't be a thing. It's possible it still won't matter, but I simply don't want to assume that. But even if x16 Gen5 still doesn't matter, it doesn't change my conclusion that if I have to choose a sacrifice to make and the choices are between sacrificing half my GPU lanes, half the bandwidth on one out of 4 NVME drives or completely sacrifice an entire NVME drive, sacrificing half the bandwidth on one out 4 drives is by far the most inconsequential out of the 3. Getting only 8 out of 16 GPU lanes "will" impact your gaming performance. The degree by which it will affect performance is dependent on load, game and use case, but it will impact gaming performance. Losing the use of an entire m.2 drive for the sake of GPU bandwidth is noticeable. Whether now or in the future, it's a significant choice that "will" be felt. Having two Gen5 and 2 Gen4 drives instead of 3 Gen5 and 1 Gen4 , you won't even notice and you'd probably be hard pressed to spot it if you actually tried. And even then, you'd probably have to be doing heavy productivity workloads just to create a scenario where you could actually measure it. You probably won't notice it in gaming because even at Gen4 NVME we were already starting to get back to the point where the CPU is becoming the bottleneck for loading again, rather than the storage speed. With Gen5 storage, we're starting to hit the point of diminishing returns. Direct storage may change that in the future, but by how much is anyone's guess. So based on that, the X670E-E Gaming WiFi never made much sense to me as a real consideration. This was probably the most difficult time I've ever had picking a motherboard, but I really do think the MSI Carbon WiFi is the best all round choice out of all of the X670E motherboards currently on the market. In spec, configuration, versatility and bang for buck, it offers the most with the fewest sacrifices. Oh I still can't believe I'm actually using the term "bang for buck" to describe a board costs over 400 quid. Something just feels so wrong about that statement.

[@valhallasashes4354]

@@alexandremonfray568 I went with the MSI Carbon. I did post a full response, but YT won't let me post it and I'm tired of fighting the filter. If it appears, great, if not, sorry. It's becoming impossible to have a real discussion on YT these days.

[@alexandremonfray568]

@@valhallasashes4354 thanks for the answer, I read your full answer carefully but I'm still asking myself something : If I go with the Asus X670E-E, I could potentially go with - 1 PCIe 5 x 16 GPU (RTX 5000?) - 2 Gen 5 x 4 M2 slots used - 1 Gen 4 x 4 Chipset M2 slot used Without anything being halved in the bandwidth right (or just the last Gen 4 M2 being slightly slowed ?) + being able to OC the CPU with the external clock generator on the Mobo. Otherwise, go with the MSI X670e Carbon and go with : - 1 PCIe 5 x 16 GPU (RTX 5000 ?) - 2 Gen 5 x 4 M2 slots used - 1 Gen 4 x 4 M2 slot used - 1 Gen 4 x 4 Chipset M2 slot used With maybe the last 2 Gen 4 M2 slots sharing some bandwidth together and being a little bit slowed, BUT not being able to OC the CPU with a external clock generator (absent on the board) ? Let me know if I recall correctly, it's a little bit hard for me to understand it all.

[@valhallasashes4354]

@@alexandremonfray568 Question 1: Yes, provided you do not install an M.2 drive in M.2_3 (bottom left interface) As soon as you install an M.2 in M.2_3, your top PCIE x16 slot drops to x8 mode. Question 2: Yes. And both Gen4 M.2s are going to the chipset. The X670E chipset uses 2 chips. So 1 Gen4 drive is connected to chipset A and the other to chipset B. They are not sharing bandwidth... Well, yeah in one way they are, where all the components connected to the chipsets are sharing the same Gen5 x4 link to the CPU. But remember x4 Gen5 lanes is equivalent bandwidth to x8 Gen4 lanes. So while yes they are technically sharing bandwidth, it's x4 Gen5 bandwidth they're sharing, giving them "effectively" close to if not the same bandwidth they would get if they had their own dedicated links to a Gen4 CPU. So they shouldn't be "slowed" as you put it. If there is a difference, that difference is likely so small, you'll probably never notice it. Before you could even see a performance hit, you would likely have to hit both drives hard at the same time before you could ever create a scenario where could possibly measure any "slow down". The Carbon manual has a block diagram at the very bottom that shows how the various components are linked. As far as the clock gen goes, I'm running a 7950X, so extreme overclocking is not something I considered of high importance when I chose this board. And to be honest, I'm not the best person to ask on that topic. I basically wanted a competent VRM that could easily handle any CPU I put in it and that was about as far as I went with it. I hope this helps.

[@Rymc]

Has there been any good X670E boards this year? It seems there are failures in every review so far this year. What's an all round good board for a nice fresh AMD 7900X build?

[@bannanas117]

Was thinking the same exact thing lol

[@intermarer9145]

Bit late, but the ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI mentioned here as the better buy has a hidden disclaimer only listed in the manual as a footnote: "When M.2_3 is enabled, PCIEX16_1 will run x8 and PCIEX16_2 will run x4." The MSI board has no such drawbacks.

[@firsh]

They totally hid that info from the specs on their website, baited.

[@SuperNapolitanka]

Хвала!

[@Laurentschoice]

Marko!!! Starting to be famous around here ! Basically sustaining my channel !!!!!!@ Love you beyond words ❤️💗💓💛

[@dangerfield85]

Favourite mobo reviewer on KZbin, edutainment!!!!

[@Laurentschoice]

Tooooo kind!!!

[@PjotrII]

Thanks for the review! I went with Carbon over the Strix, because I get 2 * 8 lanes for Graphics card, and as I will be editing video with 2 GPUs, I think I need that rather than more VRM power.

[@cikou8076]

Hi, Thnk you for the video. I am trying to understand the lanes and sharing performance of the nvm 5.0 ssds. If i will take this board: wich is better: 1 nvm 5.0 in the first slot ( ssd storage) and the second als in the 5.0 Or should i stuck the second drive in the chipset slot. Becouse one will the primary ssd/ nvm and the second one will for storage: for games. I will put also a hdd but i want to know whats the best option of the nvm. And another question, can i use 4.0 ssd 990 pro inside the 5.0? Question 2: I will put 32gb 6000mhz ram: i read that is possible to overclock to much higher with amd boards: but there is a possibility that the system will not be stable. The best optiom is 6000 mhz? My last question: I will use it for programming, content but also gaming. Do you recommend another mobo instead of this one? Or is this a good one? Thnk you very much.

[@spectre9466]

Can I change the rgb logo on this motherboard to a static colour of my choice?

[@hendog323]

You can, but you have to use MSI Center

[@firsh]

What I don't like about this is the battery situation which according to the manual is irreplaceable (I guess they mean without taking of the vrm heatsink). Since you took that off, did you see the battery? What's that oldschool cable doing there. Anyway, the M2 slots without compromise (lanesharing) are what brought my attention to this one.

[@reptilespantoso]

Good review. Thanks! I'm actually looking at boards that can handle 2 GPUs. Next generation. Not now. But this board will be around then.

[@Laurentschoice]

If ur going for 2 GPUs.. depending of which one ud go for.. then yes the Carbon could be a solid choice

[@kerotomas1]

The amount of issues i had with my ROG X670E Hero i would say stay away from ASUS as much as you can.

[@11ilhamrusdiantoagustino65]

What issues did u have?

[@triliner254]

Don't be stupid. If you had issues with the board then just RMA. Every board manufacturer will have issues at some point. There's one fucker saying don't get Asus, another fucker saying don't get MSI, another fucker saying don't get gigabyte, and another fucker saying don't get asrock. If the board has good specs, get it. That's all.

[@triliner254]

@Mistner Telling people to stay away from one motherboard company is stupid, personal experience differs from person to person.

[@triliner254]

@MistnerTheres people who had issues with asus, people who had issues with gigabyte, people who had issues with msi, and people who had issues with asrock... So what are we supposed to use?

[@fadillah6014]

​@@triliner254but it seems Asus and Gigabyte has more prone to issue than other company and QC didn't help at all.

[@R6ex]

Will the X870E ACE be released soon ..... ???

[@Laurentschoice]

Finishing the Review on the carbon . Will do the ACE in December when it is available

[@Nephilim2001]

Bought mine just short of a year ago and second time I removed my GPU the PCIe latch broke and fell off. I'm sure it was made from dried noodles. Other than that the board is great. No complaints.

[@ИльсурГареев-э2ж]

Hey all can somebody answer who is the best deal proart 670 or this?

[@JasonXBeats]

Hello Laurent I have a 7800x3d and a 4090, what motherboard board would you suggest I get that’s futureproof and sorta for a white build is the tiachi carerra any good? Please help me decide I’ll just be gaming and vr gaming on it no productivity.

[@philindeblanc]

Wow, spent all this time and joy on this Mobo, and almost at the end, we get the NO TBT4 info drop! Well, so much for that!, Not even a support header!

[@prospect2664]

what do you think is the best 670 motherboard ?

[@Agnarv2]

Hello.... asus rog strix x670e-e gaming or msı mpg x670e carbon... Which one best? Please...

[@Bushwacked487]

If you use the second PCIE slot for something other than a GPU, like a 4x Ethernet card, will it lower the number of lanes dedicated to the GPU?

[@peregrinefalcon1225]

Yes, as soon as you plug anything into the 2nd PCIE slot, the first one goes down to x8

[@johnnyutah9939]

it's says on MSI website that there's only 2x addressable RGB

[@MrPreet23]

I tried x670E Gigabyte Arous Master , Extreme , Asus Hero and Strix all of these board where nothing but pain randomly crashing , freezing and throwing all sort of codes so far Msi carbon has been stable and every efficient. I did had random reboot issues with this board initially after lot of digging i realized that the iGPU drivers were not latest and also the chipset for some reason installed by Msi Center is version 5.11 where as on AMD drivers support latest version is 5.08 so i uninstalled chipset drivers installed AMD recommended and updated the iGPU drivers since then it has been stable ... I am using 7950x3d

[@k.beytullah]

Hi, Do you recommend the rog strix x670e e gaming wifi or the msi mpg x670 carbon wifi?

[@MrPreet23]

@@k.beytullah Msi carbon x670e

[@k.beytullah]

@@MrPreet23 thank you

[@TheShadiboy1]

Does that mb msi carbon eork on ryzen 7 7800x3d?

[@MrPreet23]

@@TheShadiboy1 Yes X670E will work like charm

[@pheno7794]

Hey nice video thank you for making it. sorry for a slightly unrelated question -- I am currently building an AM5 build and am looking to pick the best motherboard for my needs and was just curious what your opinion is on the current best x670 board for gaming? I want to have upgrade potential (PCIe 5.0 slots that dont limit each others bandwidth too heavily for next gen GPU upgrades) without compromising m.2 slots/speed. Would love for the mobo to have an intel ethernet port also, they just seem to be least problematic. Wifi capabilities not necessary. I was looking at the x670e-e gaming @ $469.99. I dont mind spending extra to not have to upgrade mobo's again in a few years, but I don't want to go overkill and pay for features I will never even use. any help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

[@alexandremonfray568]

Hey everyone, still struggling to pick my future AM5 Mobo for my 7800x3D with the news on the PCIe5 GPUs coming (probably) next year. Just to be absolutely sure : If I go with the Asus X670E-E, I could potentially go with - 1 PCIe 5 x 16 GPU (RTX 5000?) - 2 Gen 5 x 4 M2 slots used - 1 Gen 4 x 4 Chipset M2 slot used - (not using the 3rd Gen 5 x 4 M2 slot to not halve the bandwidthes with the main PCIe 5 x 16 slot) > Without anything being halved in the bandwidth right (or just the last Gen 4 M2 being slightly slowed ?) + being able to OC the CPU with the external clock generator on the Mobo. Otherwise, if I go with the MSI X670e Carbon and go with : - 1 PCIe 5 x 16 GPU (RTX 5000 ?) - 2 Gen 5 x 4 M2 slots used - 1 Gen 4 x 4 M2 slot used - 1 Gen 4 x 4 Chipset M2 slot used > With maybe the last 2 Gen 4 M2 slots sharing some bandwidth together and being a little bit slowed, BUT not being able to OC the CPU with a external clock generator (absent on the board) ? Let me know if I recall correctly, it's a little bit hard for me to understand it all.

[@keithverret6191]

Based on the video, it looks like you were using the MSI m 2 locking mechanism wrong. Your suppose to spin the other way. Just a point of note. I find it to be a solid option for keeping the m.2 slot in place.

[@Furious187]

Hi new person here... totally off topic but I thought I might get a better response off your latest video.... I saw an older vid of urs on the Rog strix b650e-e gaming WiFi... and I'm interested but I'm scared of the reviews of other KZbinrs on the bios causing CPU to burn.... is there any risk of that happening to this motherboard? Thank you in advance... ps I'm very new to pc building

[@Laurentschoice]

The ASUS problem ur referring to was linked to a memory profile found in the BIOS called EXPO. That was fixed months ago. When u get ur new motherboard (regardless of the branding) make sure to update ur BIOS and ull be fine. I made 2 videos on the EXPO issue. I explain in detail what happened back then and what BIOS to download to update your ASUS board. I hope this helps. :)

[@Furious187]

@@Laurentschoice thank you soo much for speedy reply... I was looking for a person that specializes on motherboards and found your vids to be accurate and well done... if you have a video on how to properly flash bios for a brand new motherboard can u pls link it to me 😊

[@Laurentschoice]

What brand?

[@Furious187]

@@Laurentschoice Rog strix b650e-e gaming

[@Laurentschoice]

@markmaharaj1364 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZSuaXSGbb90ecUsi=Oew8ALF452YzCry1

[@davidjames4583]

Yay Laurent's back !!! MSI just dropped their new Z790 Max boards. Hope to see some reviews. 🖥

[@Laurentschoice]

Yeah doing some Z790 board indeed!

[@chrisfoobar9367]

Could you please link the monoblock you mentioned

[@synesthesia86]

Do m.2 drives with prebuilt heatsink still works with these plates on top?

[@Laurentschoice]

If they come with prebuilt plates u can't place the Mobo plates on it

[@synesthesia86]

@@Laurentschoice so I guess are the plates on the mobo better than what you would get from the m.2 manufacturer? I think maybe the mobo. Also Aesthetics haha

[@danwally6371]

I am using the Crucial T705 (w/heatsink) in the first 5.0 nvme slot. I just didn't use the provided heatsink. I have drives in 2 other slots using the prebuilt ones. Stays cool.

[@Furious187]

Please do a review of the asus rog strix z690-E ...... lm literally stuck rn between rog strix b650e-e and z690-e to determine what cpu i want... are they the same with different chipsets or are there more differences

[@kzlpsycho9264]

I will use this motherboard with Ryzen 7 7800x3d. Do I need to update the bios before installing the processor?

[@MrPreet23]

You can update after installing windows no need to update before putting processor

[@kzlpsycho9264]

@@MrPreet23 Thx man

[@bernardb5251]

Given 2 of the M.2 slots will be covered by a modern Video Card your point on a proper release clip is great! Bit of a fail by MSI! I can get a similiar Gigabyte board for quite a bit less with a GPU release!

[@rmorenberg]

Loving your videos, from USA

[@selforganisation]

I'm in the market for an X670E motherboard. I ruled out Asus because of issues people had with their motherboards. You say the Asus board is better. But has Asus got their shit together?

[@solaireastora5394]

You may have to bios flash back it, the problem has been fixed but is the model being sold an old batch or a new batch

[@nathangiddings328]

Nope they really haven’t. My x670e hero died the other day and ruined my 7900x at the same time. ASUS refuse to RMA

[@vincentvega3093]

wake up babe, Laurent dropped a new motherboard video. And i love me some motherboard reviews!

[@Laurentschoice]

Ahhhh. i love reading me-self some Vincent love!

[@Skewguard]

Bonjour Laurent, j ai lu des commentaires comme celui qui se trouve ici disant que les derniers gpu comme la 7900 xtx reduit de moitié la bande passante si on ajoute un ssd gen 5.0. Est ce vrai ? Ou ai-je mal compris ? (Debutant) J ai une 7900 xtx , un 7800x3d ainsi qu un crucial T700 et un samsung 990 pro . **Avez-vous une carte mére à me conseiller dans ce cas**? J ai cru comprendre que vous aimiez la rog strix x670e e-gaming, j hesitais avec la carbon wifi et x670 aorus master En tout cas vos videos sont super, j adore vos reviews et votre bonne humeur. Bien à vous.

[@alexandremonfray568]

Exactement la même question pour la même configuration à venir : vous avez choisi quelle carte finalement ?

[@ChiTownTx]

The need to remove the VRM heatsink just to replace the CMOS battery is what kills this board for me.

[@mileskt9232]

Didnt it have a cmos clear button?

[@Thebossreserve]

Where is the CMOS battery?

[@firsh]

"This product contains an irreplaceable battery." - the manual

[@anh413]

Could you do a review on Colorful CVN B650 ?

[@yodojo3493]

Just got this board in the mail. I feel like my second 4090 is going to cover all the front panel connectors on the bottom of the board unless I rethink my build and install the cards vertically. Sucks they just don't make bigger MOBO to fit two modern gpu's

[@Pastrulo]

El unico problema es que aun no borras la cuenta, despues de eso carbon es la mejor opcion para escoger

[@peregrinefalcon1225]

Actually, Laurent, there IS a waterblock header that allows monitoring water temp and flow. It's JWB1, check the board again. What' I'm really pissed about is what they did with the CMOS battery. Troubleshooting in my 25 years experience, CMOS battery is something you eventually need check/reset. On this mobo you have to take the VRM heatsink off, remove a plug, cut the heatshrink on the CR2032, and god knows how the wires under the heatshrink are connected. What a fckup design. I reaaally wanted this mobo, but little by little I'm finding more problems than in Strix or Aorus Master.

[@Dfeneck]

What did you end up going with?

[@justatim8143]

When you think about it, the x670e Tomahawk at $299 vs. the Carbon at $480 is the carbon worth the extra cost for the gamer. Yes it is and No the cost is like most, way to high for what you get as most gamers don't need 2 extra sata ports. It is nice to see they are getting rid of 1 rgb 12v and giving 3 rgb5v instead and 2- 3.1 front panel connectors for those who have 2 sets of connectors.

[@Mr_K13]

Le x670e Tomahawk à 299 $ LOL. C'est exactement ce que j'ai acheté. Elle s'est bloquée complètement et bug. 300 $ pour une carte bloquée, Je préfère payer 500.

[@Mr_K13]

Je vous annonce que pour la 2e fois, je renvoie encore cette carte pour modèle défectueux. Le x670e Tomahawk. Je vais exprimer passé sur la carte du dessus.

[@jegermajster]

Well well, my favourite mobo reviewer is back and looks like a 12-year old. Good to see you, man!

[@Laurentschoice]

Check out the skin rash after the shave though!!!!!

[@davidjames4583]

🤣

[@Laurentschoice]

DAVID... here you are!@

[@dfv15]

Man, I wish you would stop singing the Strix E praises so much on these videos. I got the Strix partially based on your coverage, and found that the 3rd PCIe 5.0 M2 slot actually reduces the primary PCIe slot to 8x. If you don't have a capture card or use for the 2nd PCIe x16 slot, it's literally wasting 4 PCIe 5 lanes for no reason. Even if you put in a gen 4 or even gen 3 SSD in the slot, it will reduce the primary. When you are using a 4090 or 7900XTX, you must run it in PCIE 4.0x8 since these top of the line GPUs are not PCIe 5 yet. Truly disappointing. I have since returned the E, don't buy it if you want to use all or most of your M2 slots and want to run your GPU at x16. Both the Hero and the Carbon (which I got after I returned the disaster that's the E) does it better. The Hero legitimately costs too much, but the Carbon just does everything better. Does the Carbon have 5gbps LAN or thunderbolt? No, but neither does the E. Even the Hero doesn't have 5 or 10gbps LAN. The only real dealbreaker that you didn't even mention: no ECLK/Async. For some reason MSI didn't put it in a $500 motherboard. Other than that and the lack of a TB header that someone people might be interested in, this board beats out the ASUS. Respectfully, I disagree with your recommendations and conclusion.

[@Laurentschoice]

Dude, that's some detailed comment ! My best guess is that you are not doing that build for some casual gaming and are most likely into HEAAAAVY rendering of some sort. Yeah... in that context can't agree more. If ur going 4090 + several m.2 based storage..... ur in the Extreme category. I mean.. HERO minimum. The reason I would recommend the STRIX over the carbon was based on available feature and pricing. The STRIX brings more on the table for cheaper. BUT ... in ur case... I can see the dilemma... ur toying with the very limitations of current CPU based PCIe 5.0 lanes! Respect !

[@Skewguard]

Hi, i m planning to build my next rig with an 7900 xtx if i understood well, i should get carbon and avoid the strix-e ? ( a rig with too ssd a gen 5 ssd and a 4 gen )

[@dfv15]

@@Skewguard For a majority of people I think the Strix F or A is the best board if you want an ASUS X670 board. It doesn't have the bifurcation problem with the x16 slot because it doesn't try to stats pad with "MOAR M2 GEN5 SLOTS!!!" and costs less. Otherwise, the Tomahawk is comparable to the F/A, and of course I think the Carbon is better than the E if you ever want to use all the advertised M2 slots.

[@4nyxy]

Very nice video,thank you. A video about recommandations for ryzen 7800X3D would be awesome, if you have time. Your content is very entertaining and make my day!

[@SuperNapolitanka]

"As my tutor old bubble face used to say: make love and be merry, for tomorrow you may catch some disgusting skin disease." - Edmund Blackadder

[@Laurentschoice]

Lol... skin decease .. checked!

[@dark___matter_]

This board supports up to 6600 ram.

[@amigatommy7]

No usb4/thunderbolt no deal. Asus Proart, Taichi Carrara.

[@thelittlechannelofcalm]

It's amazing MB but so expensive...

[@Laurentschoice]

Agreed. That's why I refereed to the Strix for an alternative

[@Joachim21100]

Calling ASUS premium after what happened to AM5 boards ior 4090 Strix paste issue is a little bit strong. 👎

[@Laurentschoice]

I think you are referring to the EXPO issue. After their last BIOS updat, problem was fixed. I would not worry too much about it. As for the 4090.. ah.. that's one I have to review. :)

[@Joachim21100]

@@Laurentschoice My issue is, that these big companies became complecent, especially Asus and Gigabyte. RMA is disastrous, quality is not anymore there. Plus you pay a fortune for ROG or Aorus and you end up with a box without any extra lately. (Just the price is premium now) MSI already through this phase, maybe they are returned to acceptable levels, but who you can trust at the end?

[@Laurentschoice]

Could not a gree more.. I do have a higher trust for Gigabyte in terms of finished products. But they will all try their best to get out of RMA

[@---GOD---]

Motherboards are too damn expensive nowadays.

[@husseinjuma5997]

As always....great review. The carbon was on my short list before I downgraded to the Tomahawk because I also chose an RTX 4080 over the 7900xtx. The Carbon is 80$ cheaper than the strix where I live, to me the Carbon falls between the Strix-E and the strix-f

[@rohanleander]

So I am Planning on getting the Asus x670E-f but there are so few reviews that I don't know whether to get it or not.

[@husseinjuma5997]

@@rohanleander between the Carbon and the x670e-f I'll take the carbon everyday. the 670e-e opn the other hand is probably my fav. x670e board.

[@rohanleander]

@@husseinjuma5997 Cause where I'm from the X670E-f is $490 and the Carbon is $573, So I was loosing my mind and also the issues with Asus mobos.

[@husseinjuma5997]

@@rohanleander that's a lot of money there!!! My issue with these boards is that we have yo pay too much for too little. This is why I went with the Tomahawk and the Asus Tuf.

[@Kage0No0Tenshi]

feels like he try to sell a car for 200k to me when he talk xD

[@alexanderkiryanov7190]

PCI 5.0 x 16 this is not 64 GBs, but 128. And this is not the first time you write there in your videos. write correctly.

[@Laurentschoice]

64 GBs each direction love 😘 . Total being 128 . It probably did not escape your razor sharp eye that the PCIe 5.0 lanes provides 4 GBs per lane..... In each direction :) 16 lanes × 4 GBs = 64 GBs (each direction ). When referring to PCIe lanes allocation we assume that each allocated GBs is refered as "in both directions". I do hope this will help and always glad to clarify ;) Thanks for watching !!! :)

[@mihailamarcel5201]

Dude i want an gaming motherdboard for around 150 euro ,not necesarely to launch an rocket into space!))

[@Laurentschoice]

Ahahah :) love it !

[@antonioinacioconceicaoreis9004]

I have this board and have a lot of prblems 😢😢

[@Laurentschoice]

Let me guess... can hardly boot ?

[@antonioinacioconceicaoreis9004]

​@@Laurentschoice expo crash ,code 15 when disable memory context I'm think go for asus strix x 670e e gaming what u think?

[@rohanleander]

Please do a review on the Asus x670E-F mobo.

[@Laurentschoice]

Oh God... back to strix... fine :)))

[@rohanleander]

@@Laurentschoice I did not expect a reply. Thank you for making my day 😀

[@Whitefox1331]

I'm here again 😂

[@Laurentschoice]

Would not be right if u were not !!!

[@Whitefox1331]

U know bro 😂

[@Bingchiller69]

This guy definitely gotta poop low key

[@LOONEY8581]

either this mofo had to much coffee or took too many Adderall.

[@Laurentschoice]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH COOOOOFFEEEE... coffee.. coffee... coffee..... GIMME THE COFFEE!

[@justfasial01]

3:07 😭😭

[@S....]

You're funny.

[@ontail5545]

Why are you talking like that??

[@paulworster3683]

This or the Strix-E for me? but, i am siding with the MSI atm why? ASUS Build quality is trash, MSI less likely to burn up my expensive other components, ASUS customer support stinks. Worry about the boards long term life. Prefer the ASUS on paper but its too risky for the sake for £20. PS @Laurentschoice could you review the B650E Taichi Lite Thanks!