Nostalgia Critic Real Thoughts on Batman & Robin

[@KneelB4Bacon]

20:38 (Rob trying to describe Schumacher's visual style): _"It's very . . . I don't know what word to use . . ."_ I think a good description is: "neon disco whorehouse"

[@WobblesandBean]

"Is that a fear, or a fetish?" Oh, Doug. Poor, naive Doug. It's both. No matter how random, disgusting or just plain odd, it will ALWAYS be both.

[@python1972]

He actually says "is that a fear or a fetish or is it both it's probably both"

[@SuperHandyman100]

+Amelia Bee If it exists, most likely someones jerks their meat to it.

[@xinic5]

I like busty gothic clown chicks with bat wings...

[@cbolanz1]

This was the last movie I watched with my father on the last weekend we spent together before he passed away. I will hold this movie in my heart forever. Hope you guys don't mind.

[@jugeoben]

cbolanz1 Who would? Cherish those memories!

[@bellboy64]

cbolanz1 I'm very sorry to hear that. Losing your father I mean. I know my father means the world to me so I'm sure when his time comes I'd likely treasure those moments myself. (That can't be an easy thing to admit either, given people's tired practice making jokes about the film's quality impacting them physically. Appropriate or not.)

[@jp5394]

cbolanz1 Not at all. I think this film is so bad, it´s brilliant for laughing and having fun. Sorry for your loss and I hope you are doing well.

[@AlMeZero]

cbolanz1 I don't mind, I know the pain of losing your dad. Cherish the memories.

[@samhynninen]

I'm saying this whole heartedly and non-cynically. You need to get a Bat credit-card for that.

[@chriskrause6280]

On Doug and Rob's point that Arnold is the only actor that stands out in an otherwise talented cast, I would even argue that with the right script Arnold could have been a good Freeze. I mean, let's be real, we all know Arnold can play an emotionless killer very effectively.

[@xinic5]

Poisons Ivy stood out to me ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@northwindkey]

Thing is, Freeze is not an emotionless killer. Freeze is actually quite a sympathetic character.

[@chriskrause6280]

@@northwindkey 7 year callback! So Freeze in TAS was an emotionless killer, he’s definite by his ruthless lack of emotion, but his backstory is very sympathetic. But a sympathetic backstory doesn’t mean he isn’t still ruthless and coldhearted (pun intended)

[@JohnnyJustice777]

​@@chriskrause6280i don't exactly remember what he said, but he says one dialogue to poison ivy at the end of the movie that was perfectly delivered. I think it was, "winter has come at last." Just by that alone, I think he would have made a great Mr. Freeze. The issue with his character was that, they tried to combine the goofy era of the character with the reworked version

[@theAngryscotman]

It's funny though from the commentaries I've heard from Arnold on films he's down I think he just really enjoys being the characters he plays. He always reacts with childlike wonder whenever his character does something cool

[@KneelB4Bacon]

Schwarzenegger always looks like he's having a great time. He knows when he's in a dumb movie, and knows when to take it seriously.

[@dondonfoxylady3049]

theAngryscotman probably cos he's half baked most of time lol ;) his eyes look quite red as freeze lol

[@LeePresson]

A lot of people forget that Men In Black was technically a comic book movie.

[@steveandjeanniefrith236]

Isn't Karate Kid sort of one too? I know it is in name only.

[@Xehanort10]

In this film it was almost like George Clooney didn't play either Bruce Wayne or Batman. He just played himself in a Batman suit.

[@georgesalisbury5996]

The saddest thing is is that the last Batman Movie to be seen by Bob Kane, the creator of the Batman character!

[@rise_of_the_footsoldier]

Imagine what he would think of the dark knight 💪

[@Nelsonhojax15]

Bob Kane didn't create Batman. He stole all the ideas from Bill Finger, then spent his whole life copywrighting and claiming credit. He was a genuinely evil man.

[@Xehanort10]

One of the stupidest things about the film is that it tried to combine both versions of Mr Freeze into 1 character and failed miserably. There's no way you can combine the tragic Freeze from Batman the Animated Series who's willing to do anything to save his wife with the comedic pun spewing Freeze from the Adam West show who only cares about stealing diamonds to power his freeze suit.

[@stoneyboyd]

16:57 Rob pretty much described what all the people working at Marvel, Lucasfilm and Disney say on Social Media whenever fans don’t like the latest show or movie.

[@IsaacV24]

Sure. Go ahead and say whatever BS you want. 🙄

[@mobilespace877]

You know, I thought Jim Carrey was great. The scene where Batman rejects his idea and Nygma says "You were supposed to understand", you can see something snap in his face.

[@Xehanort10]

MobileSpace That was in Batman Forever not Batman & Robin.

[@mobilespace877]

Xehanort10 I know, but they were talking about it briefly.

[@SDfan2002]

MobileSpace I agree

[@buzzingsigndiner397]

I don't mind if Joel Schumacher apologizes. God knows Michael Bay isn't going to apologize for jack.

[@PrincessLockette]

Buzzing Sign Diner and unlike schumacher michael bay is a HUGE asshole in real life.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@PrincessLockette Who cares we still have the animated films.

[@Samalamalamdam]

Joel Schumacher claims that he had practically no freedom or control while making that film.

[@heyitsthatguy1604]

The stuff with Alfred in this movie was nice. How it showed the close relationship between Bruce and Alfred and how we all felt sad over him being sick.

[@dondonfoxylady3049]

Hey It's That Guy got me every time seeing those sweet scenes with bruce and alfred

[@douglasrau5094]

9:56 That "mad scientist" character that they were talking about was John Glover, whom I believe has a Tony award and he would go on to play Lionel Luthor on Smallville. He and Michael Rosenbaum (Lex) carried that show in the early seasons while Tom Welling was slowly learning to act and the Lana Lang character was basically eye candy.

[@Klik0man1]

"This is gonna be a short video" *looks at the length* Uhu.

[@boredcommenter67]

would love to see you two talk about the transformer series. Especially since Rob is (or was) boycotting michael bay.

[@davidbrkic5548]

He talks about the first one in top ten films I hate but everyone else likes, I'm pretty sure.

[@MrRacinger322]

David Brkic No, he didn't... :s

[@tscream80]

***** So's Battleship. Oh dear God, one wonders how bad the NC would react to THAT movie.

[@Heavenlyhounds96]

tscream80 Indeed, what's worse than a movie based on a practically story-less video game? a movie based on an ABSOLUTELY Story-less BOARD GAME! -.- (Namely when it's something like Battleship, Monopoly, or...Candy Land. Clue I haven't seen though).

[@FrancisXLord]

Heavenlyhounds96 Clue is hilarious - in a good way. That's one board game to film you should watch. Skip the rest.

[@Theyungcity23]

"If he'd said I think Batman sucks. I think you suck for liking Batman." So if he was Alan Moore, then we should hate him?

[@douglasrau5094]

The thing about Batman and Robin, Schumacher says this in an interview, is that he was told to make a movie that was more "toy-rific". So the entire movie is basically just a big commercial designed to move action figures--that's it. That's why the 3 heroes apparently either go back to the Batcave and change outfits or just had a spare costumes along between capturing Poison Ivy and confronting Mr. Freeze and why Robin has his "Redbird" bike and they have separate vehicles for driving on ice. The more shit they can throw in this movie, the more they can make toys out of. You can tell, they really just didn't spend enough time going over the script and going over the story because the studio just wanted to ram this big toy commercial down people's throats as quickly as possible.

[@stoneyboyd]

Chris O’Donnell said that when he was in Batman Forever, it felt like making a real movie. But he said that when making Batman and Robin he felt like he was in a giant toy commercial.

[@BakilAskamrim]

Everyone I know refers to this movie as "Bat-Nipples" to the point I sometimes forget the actual title.

[@kuzcosmkswed117]

Someone should make a drinking game every time Rob mumbles

[@Rhodair]

9:30 that scream hahaha, took me a whole 2 minutes before I could stop laughing

[@MrPerfectcritic]

This reminded me of when Kevin Smith talked about his experience writing Superman: Reborn. The producer wanted Kevin to make characters that can be as a toy and was further away from the original source material. WB was more concerned about merchandising. They did the same thing with B and R. I was 5 when this film came out and I got a lot of toys due to the movie.

[@jackleonhart2314]

I love that at Kami-Con a couple weeks ago, at Doug's panel, I said "bat credit card". While Takahata101 held me down, Doug appeared to be beating me up. Then he went back on stage and Taka gave me a nuggie. It was awesome.

[@JoseRodriguez-un2kc]

If Joe Shumacher didn't do Batman and Robin, We would never had The Dark Knight.

[@gorvindougwinkristoffiplob5137]

or batman begins or the dark knight rises :)

[@dvass7253]

I think this video is pretty COOL. Also, that Alfred moment is so creepy that it's CHILLING.

[@christianholmes9993]

Puns aren't funny, on the scale of comedy, they are SUB-ZERO!

[@dvass7253]

Christian Holmes And yet we constantly use puns. Oh, the ICEBERG of irony LOL.

[@christianholmes9993]

Puns have not been funny since the ICE AGE.

[@dvass7253]

Christian Holmes Ah, the age that killed the dinosaurs.

[@christianholmes9993]

D Vass Seriously, if you guys make any more puns, I'll make sure your KZbin accounts are FROZEN.

[@Powerhouse1]

"This is going to be a short video" Ends up being 26 minutes long lol. Still, I love seeing these dudes talk. They make some good points.

[@SmokeymcJoint420]

Pow3rh0use Under 30 minutes, you must have a short attention span.

[@haveapotato691]

For them, 26 minutes is a short video!!

[@BSE1320]

"The Geek culture is home to some of the biggest Assholes I have ever seen in my life." -Paul Feig, talking about directing Ghostbusters (2016).

[@markmorris1993]

You see, geeks and 'Geekdom' have come a long way from being a punchline in the 90's, to the most catered-to focus group in the world. Not only does Hollywood see nerds as 'relevant', but also...profitable. So now, the nerds are the new popular, and everyone is fighting each other to be the biggest nerd. And that's why some geeks are assholes.

[@romankotas448]

It’s a hierarchy of ass holes with a few decent human beings mixed in

[@BlizzardWolfPK]

I still remember I once saw a VHS tape of this is a thrift store....and it was the only VHS there. I was so tempted to get it.

[@nifralo2752]

George Clooney has said if you paid to see B&R in the cinema he will personally refund your ticket.

[@nifralo2752]

Toad Lash Speaking of kids B&R is full of sex jokes like when Batman and Robin talk about Ivy's stems and buds or when Freeze says "I need to get the diamonds from my hideout" and Ivy says "I'll help you grab your rocks". Not to mention all the tight rubber costumes.

[@theAngryscotman]

Toad Lash Yeah but that's nothing. Loads of kids films have adult jokes and innuendos that we never got until we grow up. Look at Dougs Top 11 dirties Animaniacs Jokes for example.

[@SFK360]

+Toad Lash I think it's a shame that Clooney was cast into this disaster, it's not like it was his fault. If Keaton, Kilmer, and Bale could pull off respectable Batman performances Clooney certainly could've done well too.

[@adambesley4455]

+James Jackson I agree since in this film while Clooney is a weak Batman, he's actually a fairly decent Bruce Wayne. If that makes any sense to you?

[@randalgraves6979]

Adam Besley They should have done what they did in the Hulk T.V show and had Clooney play Bruce Wayne and some one else do Batman.

[@genesisrail]

May Joel Schumacher Rest In Peace.

[@ashspinks9529]

Wasn't even aware he had died....

[@mikeshirleyforever]

I remember so distinctly when B&R came out and I was one of the very few who really enjoyed it. It was a Batman movie, it was supposed to be fun and more headed towards families and especially children. I was really surprised at the negativity it received at the time because I was so hyped to have live action Batman movies and just made me wonder how the series would have gone had the studio didn't pressure Joel into making B&R a merchandising machine as well as a very Adam West style film. As I was very young at the time, I was so excited to see all the merchandising and promotion for the film, just 2 years after Forever. I look back to when B&R came out and I remember so many theories at the time of where the 5th film was going to go. I believe Schumacher was toying with the idea of a Scarecrow driven story with hallucination cameos of past villains, especially a possible cameo from Jack Nicholson, tying in the last 4 films into the 5th. This was just before the internet took off where people could post their views but I was so disappointed that Warner Bros had scrapped the 5th film because these films were such a big part of my childhood. It felt like a 5th should have been made as an apology for B&R. Even when Batman Begins came out, it felt so underwhelming for me without an iconic Elfman style score you could remember and also the Tumbler, not a patch on the Batmobile of Burton's era. I still watch the Schumacher/Burton movies far more than any Batman movie that came after them. I just feel B&R was misunderstood and just wasn't what audiences expected after Forever. Schumacher even said that after Forever he wanted to make an origin Batman: Year One as it was his favourite comic of the character but Warner Bros wanted a lighter brighter sequel. Real shame how the series went.

[@SimonBergeron1977]

Rob Walker pointed out THE best argument: WHO's to blame? Because Schumacher seems to apologize for the guys over him, those who did write the checks. He does seem to take the hits for everyone else, as if he was the only one deciding. My guess is he was TOLD to do the movie this way (with the merchandise in mind), and even though he did kill Batman for a few years, I don't think he's so much to blame. If anything, Warner's execs are the ones who should answer to us and apologize.

[@1997residente]

Yep. But when you read Michael Keaton's reason on why he dropped out Batman Forever,he said Schumacher complained about Burton's dark tone. The colorful aesthetic didn't bother but It pisses me off how Schumacher thought lame dialogue and humor could make this work.

[@nifralo2752]

It's not like the Phanton Menace where everything epically Jake Lloyd and Jar Jar Binks are all 100% Lucas's fault

[@orangeslash1667]

@@nifralo2752 indeed.

[@nifralo2752]

@@orangeslash1667 yeah pretty much everything in the prequels other than the music is 100% on Lucas. The prequels and the room are a rock sould argument against auture theory.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@nifralo2752 At the same time the prequels severed as the prototype for the Clone Wars.

[@TheSirenNymph]

I agree, aside from his popularity the other reason why they picked Arnold was probably because of his accent. Seeing how Mr. Freeze is sometimes German, especially in the pre-Crisis comics and Adam West show when he was Otto Schmitt

[@lil_dak_1587]

I was really surprised when I found out Schumacher directed "A Time to Kill."

[@TheParappa]

I wished they would talk more about Batman Forever, just because I think it's a far more interesting topic than its sequel. I really like Forever and Jim Carrey was perfect as The Riddler. I don't get why everything has to be dark and mean and stuff. It's a comic book movie, just let's have fun with it. Even Batman Returns does a good job at it, because it's silly but a lot of fun to see the characters play off each other.

[@MegaAnifreak]

Batman and Robin was my first cinematic experience ever..... I still have the scars

[@randalgraves6979]

🤔 i think mine was Superman 4 😐

[@SilverHairedFreak25]

Before I watch this video, I have 3 words to say: It was meh. ...What, were you expecting "Bat Credit Card"?

[@JonathanG94]

I think this movie is the most Arnold's seen smiling and enjoying himself.

[@rodster6campingprepper]

Even before showing Batman on the cover of Time magazine, we see that at some point Batman was sat in a court room in full costume waiting to take the stand at the trial in which Harvey became Two-Face. Now that's when the series really started getting stupid!

[@MegatronPrime321]

I'd like to see you do a NC review on Batman Forever :)

[@ackbarfan5556]

Rob, Doug, and Brian (Last Angry Geek, Cloak #1) did a RiffTrax Presents of that.

[@ryuumi147]

+ackbarfan5556 where can i find that?

[@21melpomene]

I see your comment is two years old, but they just put this review up today!

[@JonathanG94]

On one hand, I feel that casting Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mr. Freeze killed any of the dignity that was added to the character with the animated series and effectively killed the character for a dignified film portrayal (though Gotham the show could potentially resurrect the character's dignity). On the other hand, Arnold is just a ball to watch every frame he's on screen cause it's just "what the fuck is this?" written all over it.

[@Dim4323]

shouldve been Sir Pattrick Stewart he would've been like the TAS counterpart

[@JonathanG94]

That's exactly what I think.

[@moRULEZ18981]

I'd like to see Doug's real thoughts on Bat Credit Card.

[@ninjabluefyre3815]

Varis Thunderheart Those are his real thoughts.

[@MrMarinus18]

I think the problem with genre's like comic book movies is that once they decline in popularity it becomes a downwards spiral. Because they are less successful people aren't investing in them so that makes them worse which makes them even less attractive for the studious to invest in. One thing it proves though is that a genre is never truly dead. Even if a movie kills it, once the next generation has come that doesn't know about it, it will be revived. Superheroes will always stay with us, they are as old as civilization itself, every single tribe or civilization had stories about supernatural heroes doing good.

[@trentonnewman9683]

I think that's the case with basically every genre. Not necessarily to the extent that it happens with comic book movies but it happens to every movie genre.

[@BubblesZap]

+Cecilia Terrile check Deadpool

[@selinakyle2237]

Please do a musical review about the 2004 Phantom of the opera film!

[@selinakyle2237]

I love that movie,but I'm ready to hear Doug's opinion about it (even if it may hurt)

[@ZAMFIRIOAN]

fuck states

[@rebeccareinhard1138]

Selina Kyle YES!!!! that so needs to happen!!!!!!

[@selinakyle2237]

***** I know :) I've said this long before they did.

[@ruy1981]

I remember reading somewhere that George Clooney actually was bragging about how he helped to destroy Batman for some years before de Nolan films.

[@xinic5]

I've heard he has a poster or picture of himself in the batman suit from the movie to remind himself to never do something just for money ever again.

[@BelatedGamer]

Adam West Batman worked because it was genuinely funny.

[@SrGurkman]

Yeah, that was some of the cleverest writing on TV at the time. They managed to make something that would enchant kids while giving their parents a laugh. It's also worth noting that compared to 60s Batman comics, it's pretty serious.

[@christianpaystrup4427]

BelatedGamer and everyone making it was just embracing the goofiness. Like, there are some great actors, like Burgess Merideth, who has done stuff like the Twilight Zone, just waddling around all the time and not caring. Oh. How I love Adam West’s Batman. RIP Adam.

[@nolandavis1129]

It also has a certain low budget tv show charm to it.

[@LadyOnikara]

Vincent Price was AWESOME on that show the couple times he was on.

[@dvass7253]

While I will never in good conscience say that Batman & Robin is a good movie (because it's clearly not), I can say without any guilt whatsoever that Frank Miller did far more damage to Batman's mythos and the DC Universe in general than Batman & Robin ever did. Yes, Frank Miller gave us The Dark Knight Returns and Batman: Year One - two of the greatest comics ever written. But sadly, just like George Lucas, for some unexplained reason he made it his goal in life to destroy his own legacy with The Dark Knight Strikes Again and All-Star Batman and Robin (aka The Adventures of Crazy Steve and Dick Grayson Age 12). The Dark Knight Strikes Again is a dumb and unnecessary sequel that's far more interested in dishing out social satire than actually telling a compelling story, but ASBAR is the bigger offender because it portrays Batman as a psychotic, unreasonable, sadistic and just plain unlikable asshole. And this was given to us by the same man who once said, and I quote, that "Batman is as good and pure a superhero as you can find". The same man who praised Batman Begins for being true to the character and for having heart and substance. Compared to ASBAR, Batman & Robin is harmless.

[@TheAdam1995]

I know I'm going to get alot of hate for this but Batman & Robin is Guardians of the Galaxy compared to Superman 2! The more I watch and think about that movie, the more it pisses me off. It was a disgrace to the character of Superman and it's legacy. Yes, I do hate it more than Superman 4. As far as I'm concerned, none of the old Superman movies are any good at all. I can give the first film some respect but the rest are super forgettable trash. I'm going to come right out and say that Man of Steel was the first and so far only good live-action Superman movie ever made. Fuck the haters! This movie did what none of the other films have the balls to do. It gave Clark Kent, not Superman, but Clark Kent a challenge. It shows that even the greatest heroes can make mistakes, can be unprepared and don't have the solution to everything. Clark can't save everybody because Zod won't let him by constantly pummeling him. Clark was just a student starting out. He's not Superman right away. He's just an inexperienced youth. Sorry, guys. Man of Steel rocked. It's far from perfect but at least Superman doesn't act smug when he killed Zod unlike in Superman 2!

[@dvass7253]

***** Personally, I wouldn't go so far as to say that Superman 2 is worse than Superman 4, but yeah, it really doesn't hold up well. It still has some entertainment value - I don't care if he's one-dimensional, Terence Stamp's General Zod is impossible to hate; you can tell that Stamp is having fun in the role and he's throwing himself head-first into it. Hell, even the battle in Metropolis is entertaining as hell. Sadly, the movie has a ton of other problems that bring it down significantly, especially the way Superman kills Zod at the end.

[@dvass7253]

TheManOfMeat We all know that.

[@ackbarfan5556]

I hate it when people say George was trying to destroy Star Wars. He screwed up, he wasn't trying to kill it.

[@LuizAntonio-zs7ko]

ASBAR?

[@KombatGod]

Lol what's up with that slightly delayed cut at the end?

[@KombatGod]

***** That must be either Doug's or Rob's wife.

[@KombatGod]

I don't get what she says, though.

[@Ward1706]

I think it's Doug's wife: well, it being his house and all...

[@ackbarfan5556]

I'd like to see a Real Thoughts on Scooby Doo.

[@alexturlais8558]

I think he was really honest on that one. It was awful

[@user-zf3fc9tn5k]

That movie gave me cancer.

[@obscuredvisions8835]

Even as a kid when that abomination emerged I knew it was terrible. I dunno if it was the crap CGI or acting, I just knew it was bad.

[@funcoolfunfun]

I'd be interested in seeing that...

[@funcoolfunfun]

William Pope It's actually a minor guilty pleasure for me.I remember enjoying it as a kid

[@WolfestoneManor]

Speaking of Shumacher films, I'd LOVE to see Doug review D.C. Cab.

[@thedangerwich5476]

I see what doug is saying, but we gotta hold people to higher standards especially when these studios have the resources to give the fans the best possible quality movies. Especially for our comic heroes and mythos, that's how people get the best out of anyone in any field.

[@roanokebrooks]

Batman & Robin is entertaining and watchable in a cheesy Adam West Batman kind of way. It is definitely not the worst movie ever made.

[@somerandolad]

Yeah, but it was nowhere near as funny as the Adam West Batman

[@northwindkey]

Eh. Adam West's Batman wins out because it plays itself and its ridiculousness so straight to add to the comedy. This has way too much "wink to the camera" stuff.

[@Tillyard86]

Awhile back I was watching a Sibling Rivalry and I thought to myself "this is why James Rolfe works alone" and then I thought "eww! did I just adapt a line from Batman and Robin?"

[@zennim125]

"yeah i think this will be a short video" "yeah what we have to say about it? it's bad" see timer . . . 26 minutes . . . . yeah short, heck i like this way anyway.

[@8158bolga]

I wish that they had been more definitive with their answers during the end, because as they wrapped up,i was left confused. Do they like it or not?

[@Hailstorm273]

20:10 Actually it's nearly 17 minutes long. You did do an edited version for KZbin though.

[@jakobo88]

To Rob & Doug: I would like it very much if you can bring your real thoughts on Braveheart. I get the notion that none of you fancy Mel Gibson's stuff much, and I can understand it from stuff like Signs, but Doug even "mocked" Braveheart as part of his "movies in 5 seconds". I think it is one of the best classics of cinema and my particular favourite movie of all time, and I'm really curious as to what you guys think about it because as of now, I can only speculate. Really loving this show. You doing a great job. Please keep it coming!

[@pqsnet]

This review was way better than the "Batman and Robin - Nostalgia Critic" which was just too much... You did great job talking for 26 min with no cuts and it was interesting and relevant... Thumbs up!

[@LadyOnikara]

This is the movie that reminds me the most of the Adam West Batman (Well, besides the movie they made back then with the submarine). Arnold really seems to have a good sense of humor and enjoys being in silly movies just as much if not more than action movies.

[@professinalnerfer]

They look so young. Happy they still have fun with the NC.

[@hellojonnyhoskinghello]

Can you guys re-review the Room?

[@hellojonnyhoskinghello]

Or an Uwe Boll film.

[@hellojonnyhoskinghello]

Or even Food Fight. please!

[@ZemeckisTEN]

While Batman and Robin is still a piece of shit, it's no longer the worst thing DC has ever produced. THAT "award" goes to Teen Titans Go. Or as I like to sometimes call it, Toddler Titans No.

[@ZemeckisTEN]

Patrick Grealis TTG by a landslide. At least Suicide Squad had great action, cool visuals and funny humor. Plus the characters in films had a little bit of development. It's also NOT insulting. TTG however is not the least bit funny, the animation is lazily done, and there's pretty much no action in the show because the characters are lazy, selfish, annoying, stereotypical, immature, stupid, sadistic, one dimensional assholes that they almost never do any superhero work. And TTG is incredibly insulting. Suicide Squad actually tried. Nothing about TTG is good at all.

[@muskatDR]

How bout Toddler titan or catwoman?

[@dondonfoxylady3049]

even my four year old superhero CRAZY ( And im talking he knows characters even i wasnt aware of) son turns his nose up at ttg

[@ZemeckisTEN]

Donna Smith Smart kid. I like him.

[@justinspeaks.1652]

Breaking TEN OH GOD NO NOOOOOOO PLEASE GID NO NO NO AHHHHHHHHH HEEEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPP

[@meghanobrien3045]

Batman returns was actually my favorite of the series

[@Tareltonlives]

The weird thing is-I enjoyed this movie more than Daredevil. Yeah, it was terrible, but I'd rather had a terrible blinking light than a terrible dark gritty movie

[@thedangerwich5476]

Tobey, Raimi, and all involved in SM and SM2 revived the superhero genre.

[@sneed3840]

What about X-Men

[@thedangerwich5476]

Sgtduckerz oh yeah that one too.

[@Nootathotep]

19:42 come to think of it, what do you think of the DC Cinematic Universe?

[@maxmetalknight]

What is Rob referring to at 17:08 ?

[@somedude5644]

4:10 My thoughts on _Equestria Girls_.

[@michaelhudak9695]

I hate when Shumacher and other people say "oh Batman and Robin, it's suppose to be goofy, it's a satire of Batman, blah, blah, blah"... how and why the hell would be a satire?! Especially when it's a sequel to, what was originally, a really dark and captivating story...that's like making the dark knight and then the Adam west show as it's sequel, it's so out of place, it's a poor excuse

[@mobilespace877]

Schumacher never said that to my knowledge. He's apologized to fans on multiple occasions.

[@victorholmes7075]

Why so serious?

[@michaelhudak9695]

MobileSpace Good point, I know he really did seem to feel sorry.I didn't mean to include Schumacher in that, I just started ranting and got a bit out of hand.

[@OrionCallisto]

While I fully agree, can I just point out that despite how it stands as a film, (Quite well, honestly.) Burton's Batman is a pretty poor Batman film. I love Tim Burton. And that film along with the animated series is why I'm a Batman fan. But it screwed with one huge aspect of Bats's character: He doesn't kill. Especially not when he's already experienced and not accident-prone. (Year One was brutal.) He wiped out quite a few of Joker's mooks in the film. On top of that he pretty much lets the Joker die which is so, so against his character that it is painful. They did not capitalize on his relationship with the clown prince of crime hardly at all. Also, this one is a personal thing, but, I don't like that in that version The Joker was the one who killed Bruce's parents. I think removing the act of random violence it was by tying it into his greatest arch nemesis kind of strips the original killings of their significance. It's just too...convenient. The Joker is often best as an out of nowhere force of nature. As if he simply sprang from the ether to counter Batman. Again, that's just me nitpicking. I love the original film. Batman and Robin is difficult to sit through. Especially for slaughtering Victor Fries. Though, admittedly, Arnold was the best part of the movie. lol

[@michaelhudak9695]

You bring up some awesome points and I feel the same way for the most part. For a while, I couldn't really get into the film because, while Michael Keaton is a great Batman, and same thing for Jack Nicholson about the Joker, Tim Burton seemed not to know the source material too well. He admits he had never read a comic book before making this movie, and for a Batman fan, it does kinda show. Not only with Batman killing people, but also, and this is the biggy for me, that we know the Joker's origin story, and name. Plus the fact that he decided to have the Joker kill Wayne's parents also made the fight seem more revenge filled as opposed to general justice. But still, despite all that, Michael Keaton is my favourite live action Batman, Nicholson is really enjoyable (though I really like Ledger's version better), and it continues to be one of my favourite comic book movies.

[@fusionspace175]

Thanks for making me feel bad! I gave my kids all the old superhero movies and this was in there. I didn't even think to omit it.

[@dondonfoxylady3049]

Nick Moore dont feel bad for something you loved and know your kids will,my little lad adores this film ,he recently spotted the adam west batman film in a charity shop and went nuts ,had to buy it and he loved it,always carrys shark repellant spray in his utility belt now lol

[@EastyyBlogspot]

i am surprised at the end no one did a time magazine heals all wounds pun at the end

[@cedricpurcell]

Hey, could you guys do one on Bio Dome and Food Fight?

[@klondyke2154]

At 12:45-46 they say "um" at the exact same time and I thought more people should know.

[@thatsthetea4891]

Could you do Catwoman with Halle Berry? I would LOVE to see the real thoughts on that!

[@miraclecomics]

Doug Walker: Well after Batman Forever succeeded, everyone got on board with Batman and Robin. Analysts 1 and 2: Because the chart says... Rob Walker: OH SHUT UP! BATMAN AND ROBIN SUCKS AND SO DO YOUR CHARTS! Analysts 1 and 2: But the charts says... Doug Walker: Oh Nostalgia Critic can I see you Gun for a second? Analysts 1 and 2 runs like cowards.

[@wchan39]

It's easier to just turn off the charts.

[@alejandrocandelario9621]

Doug: "It's gonna be a short video" *talks for 26 more minutes*

[@BrenoRanyere]

real thoughts on: Matilda Avatar Gladiator District 9 but most of all Moulin Rouge

[@jamessanders6750]

"District 9" Well that's a nostalgia critic episode I desperately need to see.

[@Tenebyss]

I would actually like to see Rob's opinions on those films Doug hates

[@olliefletcher1071]

It has to be movies he has reviewed

[@SmokeymcJoint420]

***** Not in this video series though....

[@stephenfox8685]

I'd like to hear thoughts on these too, but it might be unlikely, because I don't think he gave them an official review. Except for moulin rouge.

[@GigTube]

Rob I can't believe you didn't mention my recent Batman Movie Month blogs

[@momoglo1644]

You guys always have cleaning products hidden in the background. And I like it. Lol.

[@cfrincon]

At least Schumacher was gracious enough to own his turd 💩

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

Actually, the Adam West version of Batman was shockingly clever at times.

[@lml6791]

Real thoughts on Foodfight! Masters of Disguise Man of Steel Eight Crazy Nights The Room

[@richardford5342]

>Actually genuinely likes Forever.

[@Luca-sl7tb]

Do Gargoyles next! You did that sketch in the Hunted Mansion Review, it would be cool to hear you talk about that great Show again after all those years.

[@britishnerd3919]

Apparently the rush was so fast after Batman: Forever that to get the toys out with the movie the initial, unfinalised ideas had to be made

[@Serraph108]

I just realized that you guys should do a real thoughts video The Neverending Story. I realize that it's probably too beloved to skewer it with an NC, but watch it again and see if it still holds up. In my opinion it does, but there is a lot of dialogue that should have been left unsaid and simply implied.

[@wjzav1971]

Fans are outraged about Batman and Robin ==> Schumacher apologizes. Fans are outraged about Man of Steel ==> Zack Snyder gets personally offended and calls fans whiny bitches.

[@BJ64Th3M0v13f4n]

Let's be honest: you can say that Batman And Robin is the dark stain in Arnold's acting career because of his ice puns but he stole the show in that movie.

[@azbrowne]

Doug is Ebert Rob is Siskle

[@tomjackson6077]

This was the first Batman movie I watched as I child (I was watching them in reverse order) and I find it a guilty pleasure myself

[@SuperNitpicker]

Real thoughts on Good Burger would be interesting

[@Samhaim1234]

The film is silly but at the same time is entertaining, never get bored

[@zacbod1780]

This movie was my childhood I absolutely loved it and haven't watched it for 14 years and don't want to because I know how terrible it is looking back and won't put myself through it XD

[@matthewmuir8884]

The Batman Beyond version of Mr. Freeze had a far better ice pun than any of Schwarzenegger's: "(referring to his suit) I had this kept in cold storage."

[@XynthoanXV2]

If I may request, I would like to see your real thoughts on Surf Ninjas. It was a movie I rented multiple times when I was a kid and the NC review sometimes feels confusing, even if it was just for a "dream joke."

[@maxtheaxeiswax]

If you look at that lamp on the left of the screen and squint, you can see Tom Cruise wearing sunglasses. I AM DEAD SERIOUS HERE.

[@Bradford659]

The main reason I wanted to see the movie when it came out was because I had a thing for Alicia Silverstone.

[@sheamcc2]

I'd love to see his real thoughts on sailor moon and pokemon the first movie

[@George59883]

Real thoughts on Signs. I think that is one that needs the most relaxed explaining because of how much people love it. Keep it up because these are awesome.