Nostalgic Dragon Ball Films | HOT TAKE

[@TotallyNotMark]

I might watch Dead Zone, Tree of Might and The World's Strongest sometime. What do you think?

[@nanocola3558]

Totally Not Mark they’re a meh

[@davionfowler2393]

Dead zone is great

[@mangalegends]

Please do! They're my favorites out of all the other movies. I'd definitely like to hear your opinion on them

[@bort3629]

Imo as full movies these 3 are the best, it’s just they have less iconic characters

[@d_marv3lous237]

You have until next week for those reviews to be out. No excuses.

[@voyageroftime8683]

Janemba is standing in a corner, his face, vein covered, he slowly looks to Akira Toriyama and asks... "Can I be cannon too?"

[@grayatreides7327]

If only he had a personality I would be up for it

[@voyageroftime8683]

@@grayatreides7327 He'll probably have one forced down his throat

[@rarecrom]

@@grayatreides7327 not all antagonists need a personality

[@simonsaade7625]

He fits perfecly for a plot and besides that who doesn't like Janemba teleportation effect?

[@dragonstar213]

oh my god YES

[@14714623]

"A tournament that gets out of hand" can be used to describe every tournament ever in dragon ball.

[@Da_Swifta]

like that time when a three-eyed dude blew a hole in the ground, or a green dude became a giant, or when that kid with a tail became a giant ape thing, or when that pale dude got his neck snapped and just kept fighting anyway, or that time when some dude's hair just turned yellow and he flew away from the ring, or that time when...

[@aaronm4706]

@@Da_Swifta What about that time a yellow hair dude blew a massive hole in the stands, destroyed a large part of the city, and killed thousands?

[@garlicsalt317]

@@aaronm4706 dont forget the time when the white hair guy beat up the alien and then got beat up and then beat up the alien again and then got beat up again and then the white alien and the white hair guy who now has yellow and black hair beat up the alien

[@matthewhyman2208]

Don't forget when that big guy that was in the last tournament bodied the daughter of winner of the last tournament and that other tournament where the guy with yellow hair screamed then he turn red then punched a green guy then the green guy hit him and the yellow guy then they started fighting then

[@matthewhyman2208]

@@Da_Swifta also who was the guy who got his neck snapped

[@bradisboss2.048]

i liked janemba becuase he had amazing lines such as "jAnEmbA jANemBa" "OOOOOOO HOOO HOOO HOOO"

[@joaogomes9405]

Don't forget his greatest line, "GYAAAAAAAAAAAAHU"

[@ILove2EatUranium]

Meh. Kid Buu had better lines.

[@TupocalypseShakur]

Where's Gesshha!

[@spammer44]

pimple dimple I quote something that buu said which made me non-suicidal BUU BUU AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAAAH EHEHEH

[@ryanm.8720]

If Janemba was in BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle, I'd like to see his interaction with Neo. *Neo:* (giggles) *Janemba:* Geh heh heh heh...!

[@Turbo-Tastic]

The entire point of Cooler's character is that he recognizes Frieza's overconfidence and carelessness but is too self-absorbed and hypocritical to realize his own, and his death is a reflection of that. He's Frieza's older brother who thinks he's better but is only able to see his brother's faults, not his own. Not sure how that didn't land for you, it's pretty much the entire purpose of the "two scenes" he was in.

[@infamousplayer8772]

Because in the end, he's literally just Freeza, but with none of the awesome personality or time to get us used to him. If he is gonna be different from Frieza and recognize his flaws, then there's no point in making him commit the exact same mistakes. You can either do one thing or the other.

[@alfa01spotivo]

@@infamousplayer8772 nah i liked how op described it and honestly quite like cooler's character

[@infamousplayer8772]

@@alfa01spotivo that's totally ok.

[@Waltersop]

So...Cooler's a dumbass, gotcha

[@ryanred1525]

@@infamousplayer8772 I wanted cooler to be completely different from freezer an honorable more skilled warrior who had to train for his power. And this was my head canon until I actually watched the movie. I’m disappointed and I’m gonna go back to my head cannon and pretend he was introduced in dragon ball Xenoverse two.

[@apophisgaming4964]

Cooler: "Is that your son?" Goku: "Yeah..." Cooler: I'mma kill it!

[@sauce1820]

Apophis Gaming don’t you do it!

[@apophisgaming4964]

@@sauce1820 I'mma do it!

[@sauce1820]

Apophis Gaming DON’T YOU DO IT!

[@please6515]

The_Sauce 1820 (laser beam sounds)

[@sauce1820]

vishnu ravichandar Dang it! *pain*

[@shawnh9111]

Nah Goku would say, “let’s move to a different location” whenever there’s life around.

[@tiablue9106]

Yeah, he mentioned before not wanting to fight anywhere with people or animals around :0 Sure, Goku isn’t a tree hugger but he hates living things getting caught in the crossfire

[@sillygoose2878]

Isn’t that mostly with human lives?

[@tiablue9106]

+Son Gohan: I specifically remember when he fought Vegeta, he mentioned no people OR animals being around. Other than that, it prolly didn’t come up (unless I’m forgetting)

[@GokuInfintysaiyan]

Tia Blue And it remains consistent throughout his canon and non-canon stories He didn’t harm the lions in movie 13, he wouldn’t kill animals unless he had to eat when he was a child in DB, etc

[@balabanasireti]

Yeah, Goku is careless and loves fighting, but he always cared about life.

[@Sethnotasithsr]

Cooler flipping on his decision to not blow up the planet is actually a good one imho It shows just how hard he was backed into a corner. It shows the severity of the situation Cooler is put in against an enraged Super Saiyan Goku. It goes along well with him flashing back to him allowing Goku's saiyan pod to escape Death Ball's wake It also shows Cooler may seem to have more honor than his brother Freiza... But he's not much different from his brother Frieza.

[@val3489]

Exactly. Besides, how many times in Dragonball has the villain started a fight with a "I'm just gonna enjoy myself before I kill you and everyone you love" kind of attitude, but ended up not giving a shit by the end due to sheer frustration? It makes complete sense given how much of an ego villains tend to have in this series.

[@Zakal2]

Sethnotasithsr Not only do I agree with this as Cooler‘s Desperation-Move to contradicting his own words once he took that beating, but also, as we all know, he really is like Frieza... ...But *cooler.*

[@samuraigundam0079]

Agreed. Also, I think Cooler is an interesting character, and would make a great foil for Freeza if he’s introduced into the series proper. He’s more benevolent in attitude than Freeza.

[@Junebug89]

@@samuraigundam0079 Cooler thinks he is better than Frieza and looks down on him, he is in fact driven to prove himself different to and better than Frieza, but ultimately proves himself to be just the same.

[@riotron1026]

If you really think about it..was his decision to flip and go against his word to not blow up the planet sensible? If anything it makes Cooler seem kind of stupid and I really am a fan of the character. If someone as powerful as Frieza was defeated, and by a Saiyan no less and he has knowledge of this, why would he be so overconfident in dealing with him to the point of declaring he wouldn’t blow up the planet to defeat him? It makes him seem either way too over confident or an idiot. Yes he took Goku out with that laser beam which could easily lead to him underestimating him but even that felt forced. With the amount of punishment Goku has taken through his bouts, for him to be so badly damaged from that one attack while he was fresh seems a bit inconsistent and it feels like it was solely executed that way for the sake of the plot.

[@damiannova5207]

Honestly I’m so happy Toriyama rebooted Broly. He did the character so well.

[@anondouchebag907]

Nah bro, OG Brolys savageness was better

[@shadowfruit8232]

Hopefully cooler and janemba gets rebooted as well

[@denisn8336]

@@anondouchebag907 agreed personally i vastly prefer the original but like the new one and get why people like him just wished akira kept the original broly and expand it more cause og broly had so much potential but its toriyama he prefers making his own characters

[@joonass7396]

@@anondouchebag907 You could argue that he's cooler but for me it's like TFS said: He's so cool but he's soooo dumb

[@ZodiacBandit]

Anondouchebag The new broly actually has character and a good back story unlike the old one that hated goku for crying

[@fanboyfezz4914]

“Luckily, Gohan has a pet dragon.”

[@Da_Swifta]

A sentence I never thought I'd hear ever

[@rainygamedays5873]

But only sometimes

[@kfconsoleenthusiast4992]

“Dragon meat is yummy and I really want in my tummy”

[@SavageHunterisdead]

Pokemon

[@Marsuru1]

For his neutral special, he wields a pet dragon.

[@ssbbbest]

Though I agree with most of your points for Cooler's Revenge, my main gripe is your statement on Goku concerning himself with the wellbeing of wildlife being a big contradictions of his actions in the series. Since the beginning of Dragon Ball Goku was always kind to the nature around him, as he would help monkey's as a child, save Master Roshi's Sea Turtle and was generally raised in the wild as a country hick. For him to be gentle to a damaged bird is definitely in Goku's character as even though his Saiyan heritage makes him love fighting, sometimes at the expense of others, Goku always despised those who killed the innocent needlessly. Just like Eighter taught him when he was about to kill General White, and Popo after Goku killed Piccolo Daimao, bloodlust or needlessly killing innocents was always generally wrong to Goku, hence why he would always fight to protect Earth and despised the villains who would destroy life so indiscriminately.

[@davidtosh9347]

Pin this pls

[@Suirra1608]

Dope rebuttal!

[@BboyDJFLIP]

Vivid Sniper totally agree, while Goku was very eager to fight a new foe, he always convinced his enemy to fight far away from nature or large cities, that’s why most of the fight scenes are in deserts and mountains so far away from everything else.

[@fitzhugh7463]

Vivid Sniper cut to Goku roasting a whole wolf over an open fire

[@ssbbbest]

@@fitzhugh7463 Ya I knew people would point that out, but hey a guy's gotta eat to survive. The wolves did attack Goku first and Goku was a uneducated child at the time, his sense of morality wasn't as common place as it is now. I'm not saying Goku is innocent or a savior for wildlife but what I'm saying is Goku definitely honors nature in certain circumstances within the series as a whole.

[@Fojabass]

10:57 Let's be real here; They shoved Goku in at the end so they could slap SSJ3 on the cover. At the time SSJ3 was only recently introduced, so from a business perspective putting him in the movie (even if forced) was a great way to market it.

[@razkable]

super dragon fist is cool though and reminds us of oozaru fist through king piccolo

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

So you know that anti-piracy ad you showed a short clip of in the beginning? Yeah, the people who made that ad actually pirated the music that was used. As a certain Sith lord would put it: Ironic.

[@hellomeloanimations8107]

These people stupid.

[@jadenbryant9283]

He likely did not know that

[@hellomeloanimations8107]

@@jadenbryant9283 I meant, the people who made it.

[@FeliX-TobiYahs-C]

@@jadenbryant9283 jeez kid, pick up a book and learn to read before you *comment* 🗣️⚠️😒

[@Apotheosister]

@@FeliX-TobiYahs-C "Jeez" Should be capitalized and a period should be at the end of your sentence.

[@goat_sama8239]

I cried when Goku and Vegeta exchanged goodbyes at the end of Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn (and Vegeta saying thank you to Goku warmed my heart)

[@razkable]

pikkon in the piccolo role was so cool too

[@GBkites]

And when Hitler appeared. That was pretty cool

[@Conceptcreator]

for myself the biggest problem next to story for those old movies is... Let's wait with powering up even though I am struggling so much... like dude... you know you have that power. What are you waiting for? (which fusion reborn didn't have) and for best potential, has to go to "wrath of the dragon" but like you said, to little play time

[@lazyproductions8005]

I mean, most of the Saiyans in the movies prefer to gauge their opponents before transforming, its even pointed out in the anime, being considered a saiyan trait.

[@Vuirotto]

cause where's the fun in that lol

[@trantuongnguyen6552]

they love to fight, not to win so they just start from base and slowly powering up

[@__one_bite__7908]

Goku give frieza energy even after frieza is in half Totally not mark: eh Goku helps bird Totally not mark: WOAH JESUS?!

[@leeworley6727]

Frieza was still alive and the bird was dead.

[@__one_bite__7908]

@@leeworley6727 how do you know it was dead?-

[@THE_BIGGEST_HATER]

@@__one_bite__7908 because he worked on movie

[@__one_bite__7908]

I'm not gonna say your name anyways if he did wouldn't he still be making movies instead of being here saying something with no evidence?-

[@THE_BIGGEST_HATER]

@@__one_bite__7908 I was saying that as a joke

[@mochi4926]

I spat my tea out at "bypasses Superman entirely and goes straight for Jesus." 😂

[@Gyro___Zeppeli]

It's so accurate lol

[@inthepipe5by576]

Lol this should get more likes

[@feathero3]

That part made me laugh out loud for real XD

[@altreon3608]

"cooler's revenge was ok" *screaming in drowning pool*

[@orcatwar9810]

Me screaming in disterbed

[@razkable]

yeah the rock music helps that film for sure for dub fans who remember it..for the subbed fans its a meh film..no rock music so

[@HistoryandReviews]

Nerd

[@MrSupedoSpade]

'World's Strongest' didn't get enough love :(

[@flamo2666]

Worlds Strongest was shit.

[@fitzhugh7463]

@@flamo2666 It was my favorite movie! I loved the plot of an evil scientist searching for the strongest warrior in the world so he can take their body, and I think the premise was executed wonderfully!

[@chuviis3508]

It was meh.

[@blastfromdass4310]

Seeing roshi kick ass was cool

[@ThePidgeottosNest]

The first three movies are way underrated. They actually had a story and villains with personalities. The new ones that everyone loves don’t. It’s just bad guy shows up with no motives other then destroy the world because that’s what they’re supposed to do. They grunt a lot and that’s it. The only reason I’ve heard as to why bojack is so popular is because gohan goes ss2 in it and trunks was cool. Personally I thought bojack was the worst movie next to super android 17 and the mecha cooler one.

[@kdog3k]

World's strogest is up there in terms of quality with Fusion Reborn, you should give it a watch

[@paneltwin]

Kevin Swinson on god one of the best

[@tayojones9460]

World's Strongest was great! Grrat fight scenes, great animation and Dr Wheelo was an excellent VillA in. If there is any villain who should be rebooted, Its Wheelo.

[@Eidlones]

I'm shocked Wrath of the Dragon came in so high. I never hear anyone ever talk about it, but it's one of my favorites.

[@Dr.JonathanCrane]

people don‘t talk about wrath of the dragon most likely because this movie barely has any action

[@dinogt8477]

Ye it’s one of the best dragon ball movies

[@Dr.JonathanCrane]

@@dinogt8477 absolutely

[@austinglass1916]

Underrated

[@ItsJustFox]

The first 3 DBZ movies are the best ones, storytelling-wise. They're less about the action and more about the characters.

[@harlangriffinjr.4673]

Deadzone was so much fun

[@valentds]

less about the action? first and second Z film have lot of action, much better than broly movie

[@doncon_380]

@@valentds probs cause they were more down to earth and had more realism than super saiyan gods that dont do anything

[@husariuspl117]

@@valentds which broly movie? There's 4 of them

[@Pokemonleafmon]

Dead Zone is great World's Strongest isn't my cup of Tea, but I appreciate the classic energy Tree of Might is... Not the best...

[@KookieKooker]

One of my greatest Dragon Ball dreams is definitely a Wrath of the Dragon remake that fixes all the issues and gives it a larger run time. Tapion's story deserves to be fleshed out better and given a better ending.

[@puppygirlasuka]

Also a light remix of Tapion’s theme. It’s such a great theme but every time I find it on KZbin it’s beyond compressed,

[@kylechristians4902]

What makes Cooler's Revenge for me is the music. The metal soundtrack truly inspired what would become my favorite genre of music. From the beginning seeing Bardock face Freeza to Drowning Pool's Reminded solidified me as a metalhead and that's what guaranteed my entry as a metalhead.

[@razkable]

he watches the japanese version cause hes a weaboo so

[@jadenbryant9283]

it was a thing in general for these movies to have metal music whilie the song in general didnt fit the scene where it was in then the music itself did fit dragon balls astheftic kinda wished he still did it

[@L33PL4Y]

That music was only in the American dub. In other versions, it's the Japanese score.

[@benwilliams4942]

The Bojack portion nicely sums up TFS' decision to drop it. It just didn't provide enough material to work with.

[@supermysticsonic2]

THEY DROPPED IT???

[@benwilliams4942]

@@supermysticsonic2 Yeah, they said it in their Nintendo Direct parody a few days ago. TFS didn't go into much detail in the video over why but they explained themselves much better in a reddit post after. Bojack as a movie is incredibly condensed and to-the-point; benefits for the movie itself but shafts any creative after-thought.

[@ksanbahlyngwa1998]

So Bojack is just free?

[@supermysticsonic2]

@@ksanbahlyngwa1998 Killed by Cells explosion

[@ksanbahlyngwa1998]

@@supermysticsonic2 True

[@akshaykumar_r]

13:43 Fun fact : Cover the left side of the screen, and you'll see Goku. Cover the right side of the screen, and you'll see Vegeta. They gave so much attention to detail in Fusion Reborn!!

[@fredshibulski7629]

Bro

[@Prestos1riGner]

Mind blow

[@Aristas-zd5vd]

lol I thought everyone knew this

[@akshaykumar_r]

@My dudes My dudes then you're not looking at the right places my dude ;) look at the hairline and the jawline.. You'll see that they're different for both sides (and no, it's not because the artist couldn't draw them symmetrically xD)

[@dljdljdljdljdlj]

Holy shit fuck

[@FavoriteSniper]

Bojack should’ve said something along the lines of “I came to thank the person who freed me from my prison. I kept hearing Kai mention Earth over and over again before the explosion. Since then I’ve freed my crew and have been searching for Earth. Who knew the Earth would of found us instead.” I think something along those lines would be way better than “The Earth is beautiful”.

[@z-ro34]

Fusion reborn takes the cake for my favorite line ever: "Every force you create has an echo. Your own bad energy will be your undoing!"

[@BRsPedro]

Yeah but the movie is terrible.

[@noona4164]

@@BRsPedro how dare u

[@blackpants7385]

@@BRsPedro *terribly underrated

[@shyboss15x35]

@@BRsPedro u must be fucking stupid

[@mewstoise5505]

@@BRsPedro you literally have no taste

[@IdocarebutIdont]

Dude, you totally missed the point of Cooler being like Frieza.. Ignorance got them killed. Cooler could have killed Goku as a baby, but he blamed Frieza for being foolish and arrogant, letting Goku escape. In Coolers dying moment he even realized, that he should have killed Goku back then. Pointing out that hes not better than Frieza! Im not saying this movie was 10/10 or whatever, but this one was so obvious, that Im kinda shocked you missed it.

[@Marc25212]

But it's still a bland story overall.

[@Atlas_DXUlt]

TFS cooler will remember this comment

[@DARamosYT]

"Frieza did it."

[@chuviis3508]

Still didnt save the movie

[@Marc25212]

@Anxious Boi like I said, story. Any of the actual story of dragon ball (no filler) is way more intriguing than coolers revenge

[@marcel6143]

"I'm my Father's SON!"-Gohan 6:33

[@spoogtastic]

The dubs line there is SOOOOO much better than the original. Sorry not sorry

[@supereststinger]

Yeah no shit gohan

[@infamousplayer8772]

Yeah, and water is wet.

[@moelester1031]

I know you kind you think you can just waltz in and take our planet

[@maxhydekyle2425]

Coolers Revenge was one of the first Dragon Ball things I ever saw so I still have this image of Goku as a protector of nature.

[@warwick802]

I wish we got that Goku, not the idiot child we got in Super.

[@radentruman7535]

Tiger but Goku is a protector and an idiot child minded person that’s what makes him fun. I get that super took it to far but the threats he had to face in Z ( I’m not counting OG dragon ball because he was a child) ever gave him the time to be as stupid (although it also there) as in super which has much more down time In it then z.

[@tatocezar1]

to be fair Goku does care about nature since thats where he grew up with.

[@lordadrianrichter3409]

For me it was Dead Zone, The World's Strongest, and Tree of Might from Toonami: The Midnight Run; followed by a random space episode of GT.

[@warwick802]

@@radentruman7535 I know. I just basically wish we got DBZ Goku where although he isn't smart, he isnt a total man-child.

[@lucko115]

Tree of Might is way better than Cooler's revenge. But no one remembers OG Evil Goku.

[@therealestn]

The original goku Black

[@Zacman1123]

It's really not better.

[@tigirao5926]

But then again there are better db films than Tree of might or Cooler's revenge

[@smcrevival1467]

@@Zacman1123 true tree of might starts way slower than coolers revenge does. Armored squad is more memorable. Someone say the name of one of the crusher corps (except ball sack twins) without looking it up. I dont think anyone can come close to remembering there names. And cooler is better than turles

[@kbennett365]

Turles actually won but plot saud f u

[@prodripper1401]

Coolers revenge is my favorite dragonball movie. I love everything about the movie. Maybe it’s just the nostalgia talking but the movie makes me happy every time I watch it

[@ethantombs2608]

It's kinda ironic that the two best Dragon Ball Films (Fusion Reborn and DBS Broly) have one thing in common. Gogeta

[@Nimodog19]

It's funny cause canon wise (pre-DBS Broly), the most popular good guy in DB was Vegito while noncanon was Gogeta

[@MaxIronsThird]

I'm sorry, but DBS Broly isn't a good movie.

[@ethantombs2608]

@@MaxIronsThird I beg ur pardon? It's not a good movie? Ur right it's not. It's a great movie

[@Xeno574]

@@MaxIronsThird I just love how people were hyped for the movie and during its first few months it was beloved, now everyone hates it. typical dragon ball fan behaviour lol

[@MaxIronsThird]

@@Xeno574 Do you realize i'm not part of this so called group that loved the movie when it came out, right?! There are different people in the world and with different opinions. i think DBS Broly is an unoriginal, overdone, overly long, non-stopping punching and flashing lights, retconning and tiring movie, and that green alien is fucking obnoxious, that's my opinion since the day i watched the movie in January. Bardock: Father of Goku >> History of Trunks >> Fusion Reborn >> The Legendary SSJ/DBS Broly.

[@MrBankaikenshin]

Based off of your analysis I'm going to guess for you it goes like this. 1: Fusion Reborn. 2: Wrath of the dragon 3: Cooler's revenge. 4: Bojack unbound. Am I right?

[@mokimub1084]

The 3 best are wrath of dragon, coolers revenge and Boback unbound.

[@mneck9975]

The sound track made Cooler's Revenge the best for me.

[@chuviis3508]

@@mokimub1084 Bardock unbound doesn't count.

[@jamesson1154]

Moki Mub best 3 for me are Fusion reborn Bojack unbound Legend of Broly

[@johnnygyro2295]

Going to have disagree with you on Cooler. The dude's one of my favorite Dragon Ball villains. While he had some similarities with Freeza, such as ego, he had differences and nuances as well: 1. He implied, at least in the English dub, that Cold favored Freeza, there was some sibling rivalry going on and the brothers would've tried to kill each other if Goku hadn't unintentionally butted in. 2. Cooler wanting to see Goku's corpse himself before blowing up Earth could be argued to be pragmatism as well as ego. If he blew up the planet from the start, there would be the possibility Goku escaped to get payback later. 3. Back to the sibling rivalry, Cooler said that Freeza had the advantage power wise at first since he was a prodigy. Cooler was only able to surpass him by discovering the armored fifth form, implying that Cooler wasn't afraid to learn and train. This is something Freeza wouldn't try until after escaping Hell. 4. When Cooler discovered Goku was the Saiyan baby he let go, he learned he and Freeza weren't as different as he thought as he burned in the sun... I could keep going, but that would take awhile. That being said, I hope Cooler becomes canon someday. It did wonders for Broly!

[@Realkeepa]

Well said

[@naisagathefirstdestronmand8559]

Honestly cooler as a concept is pretty stupid no matter how you try and spin it. Why would cold favor frieza over cooler? Why would he even have a second son after the first? And it also doesn't do anything for Frieza's character at all. The only real reason cooler is liked is because he's got an extra form that's a shredder rip off. Which also completely disregards how the transformations for that race are supposed to work, being ways of conserving and controlling power, and not an actual power-boost. If cooler ever becomes canon, I do hope it's just a passing mention. Something along the lines of "And he was deemed a failure, father killed him and then I was made to replace him, much like how he replaced all the others before him". Because at least in that regard, it does something for both Cold and Frieza's characters.

[@jcastvideos]

@@naisagathefirstdestronmand8559get what your saying but coolers just cooler buddy

[@stamatooss]

​@@naisagathefirstdestronmand8559 how the hell are you SO pressed over a fictional character that u write paragraphs dawg

[@naisagathefirstdestronmand8559]

@@stamatooss My wife is an author, so the writing long paragraphs has become a force of habit. One that is hard to break because I’m a biologist and like to get very detailed on things.

[@SeboHyatt]

I agree that the running times ruins the experience. I remember years ago when I re-watched all of these films I felt the same thing too. It was better when i was a kid because I wouldn't notice how quick the pacing was. Also most of these seem to rely on Goku saving the day even when it doesn't make sense. My only gripe with your take on things is that you don't seem to be cool with anything unless it has a direct dramatic tie to the story. Like when you retold the Buu Arc....you basically decided to make it all dramatic. Some things are meant to be humorous. That's how Dragon Ball was. It wasn't always suspenseful, and that's why some of the scenes, like Gohan being in school, didn't have to tie in directly to what went down. The light hearted stuff isn't bad. But that's just me. Nice videos regardless.

[@Da_Swifta]

Well I think that's mostly cause the emotionally impactful stuff is what he's most drawn to, and those are the parts he enjoys the most, so when it comes to reviewing and writing stuff based around Dragon Ball he has a bit of a bias. Writers tend to write in a way that's pleasing to them, and so if those moments of dramatic tension and emotional weight is what he enjoys that's the stuff he's gonna focus on, and if it's not there he's not gonna get as much enjoyment out of it. You can try to be as fair as possible in viewing something objectively, but in the end we all have a bias.

[@TheSefirosu200x]

Nah, the more of that lighthearted faux "funny" crap that can be cut out, especially of the Buu arc, the better. That's what brought that arc down the most, with the second worst part being Buu's weak characterization in all of his forms.

[@CJ-111]

Frieza's cool.. But his brother's COOLER!!!!!

[@King_Luigi]

_"In the end, when all is said and done..._ _Freezer was cooler & Cooler... was Freezer."_

[@nosoyyo6961]

😂🤣...

[@fredshibulski7629]

Dead stolen joke

[@CJ-111]

@@fredshibulski7629 cool story bro

[@fredshibulski7629]

@@CJ-111 ty

[@tanuki2898]

I remember watching Fusion Reborn for the first time and thinking it was epic as hell. I honestly don't remember anything that happened on Earth, just what was happening in the battle with Janemba. That's a little problematic for the movie, but my god was that fight beautiful. So grace, so super, so saiyan, much scream.

[@thsuperelite]

Love it or hate it, cooler's second form is badass as hell... Hope he will be introduced into the canon as well...

[@ianthecoolthief6226]

If Tapion was canon in the future timeline, watching from heaven he must have been proud to see Trunks slay Fusion Zamasu with his blade. Even if he likely got erased, he still went out knowing his blade was in good hands… Also, I know Future Trunks originally had the Z Sword, but it broke sometime after he slayed Dabura and Babidi.

[@MergedWarriors]

Lmaooo, that anti piracy ad. I remember that being on every DVD in the early '00's.

[@rainfire2457]

Aww, Gohan and Icarus are so cute! 2:05 OH DEAR GOD XD ICARUS WTF XDD I almost fell out of my chair laughing at the Dragon sounds. Did not expect that.

[@TIkoIDOko]

I had a hard time to stop laughing i did not expect it.

[@AshyMuted]

Loud Nigra

[@LuckyIStar]

It took me half an hour to finish this video due to the vicious cycle of pausing to laugh and rewinding to watch it again. That mess had me in stitches.

[@shuumatsunojoshua]

Loud Icarus

[@jonathonodum6007]

I thought the moment when Goku healed the bird was the most badass thing I had ever seen when I was young. I liked that everyone had their back against the wall in Cooler’s Revenge as well.

[@Getwright-]

Yeah I thought it was an interesting use of ki and it called back to the dragonball days when goku was always befriending random people and creatures (and seemed to enjoy being outdoors and having fun as much as he enjoyed training)

[@rayb2623]

Making a point to go back and rewatch all your content (priority to Dragon Ball) again. Sucks to see what happened over the holidays and sucks to not see as many videos come from your channel. With that, I know I a lot of us are waiting to hear more of your thoughts on the upcoming movie this April. You’re one of the biggest voices to a lot of folks on DB character progression and story/narrative arcs. Too understandable that you’re probably still apprehensive over the whole ordeal I’m sure you’re still battling. Regardless, have to let you know, the viewers still love you Mark. You’re a talented dude and we haven’t forgotten… Haven’t forgotten your talent, the joy you bring folks through your content, the knowledge or the deeper inter workings of plot that you impart, and your genuinely positive and hopeful spirit. Again man, looking forward to the next projects. Gonna keep supporting and running up the numbers on what you still have on the platform. Take care of yourself! Very Respectfully, Ken Recurrent Viewer

[@burningdex3154]

Mark can you please talk about The History of Trunks special?

[@MAR-sc7np]

Isnt that movie cannon

[@siijon0353]

mr saitama I guess so

[@Nimodog19]

It's not a movie. It was a TV Special along with Bardock the Father of Goku

[@Nimodog19]

Daniel Z-V That still doesn’t make it a movie...

[@amarntsitran3406]

Listen, I hear what you're saying about Bojack Unbound but... The beginning is dumb fun, Trunks is looking mighty spicy and that may be Gohan's best design.

[@ViltrumiteIsRite99]

Amarn T Sitran Honestly, Trunks is bae. I love seeing “Teen” Gohan in that gi, but unfortunately, we don’t get to see him too much.

[@sneakyking]

Mighty spicy

[@thehomiedan6378]

Ha I like that, "Mighty Spicy"

[@ds2k15]

I always looked at the movies as storyline "what if" scenarios or even their own timeline. Which is why some things don't make sense when trying to fit them into continuity.

[@JoaquoGameplay]

Bardock the father of Goku (i count it as a film) it's not just my favourite DBZ movie, but my favourite animated movie of all time

[@maverickmagic6132]

Likewise. DB super broly ruined Bardock

[@Dondon-wt5mw]

Maverick Magic how did it ruin bardock? He’s always been destined to die anyways

[@TheBoy32NDME]

@Subarashii Ningen The reason someone wouldn't vote it is because it's not a movie

[@deet917]

Subarashii Ningen it was a tv special so it wouldn’t fit as a dbz movie just like the Bardock special. But I agree with everything else you’ve said

[@lilchristuten7568]

@Subarashii Ningen There are no "canon" DB movies that are connected to the overall storyline. The movies are a separate canon altogether.

[@mushroomblin4193]

one of my favorites is lord slug. just because of false supersaiyan

[@orcatwar9810]

Well from what I heard it's a error That is ssj

[@supereststinger]

fssj looks terrible in my opinion Ikari is better

[@paulbarth3851]

If you want to see a movie with Action But no story/ charaker watch the legendary super saiyan

[@IdocarebutIdont]

Or DBS Broly.. The only thing that this overrated movie did better is making Broly a good guy in the end. However, everything else turned out the same.. 90% fights, 10 % average story. This remake was so unnecessary tbh.

[@Da_Swifta]

@@IdocarebutIdont would'ya look at that. Your name perfectly reflects your opinion

[@IdocarebutIdont]

@@Da_Swifta Not at all.. Named my Acc like that because Its not my main. Lmao I expexted that one day some idiot would came up with that stupid "argument". Gratulations youre the first :) However Im sure I know more about DB than u ever will haha.. Almost everything Super came up with is trash.. But please enjoy your kid friendly, sparkling aura Shit.

[@KaiSC]

@@IdocarebutIdont no, u troll

[@budal15]

@@IdocarebutIdont Actually DBS Broly had more story than half of other DBZ movies combined

[@Ryanmiller70]

I'm definitely one that tends to really enjoy action for action's sake. It's why I voted for Cooler's Revenge. I just love that it doesn't waste any time at the beginning. It knows that there's a pretty good sized portion of the Dragon Ball fandom that just wants to see cool fights and only takes about 2-5 minutes setting up why the characters are in the middle of a forest before jumping straight into the fighting. I also voted for Wrath of the Dragon and my opinion of that film is basically the same as yours, except, while I do agree the final scene feels out of place with how focused the entire film was on Trunks and Tapion, I don't completely hate it. It would have been cooler to see Tapion and Trunks/Gotenks team up to deliver the final blow on Hirudegarn, but it's whatever.

[@jamesson1154]

Ryanmiller70 maybe even have vegeta help at the end. Whatever though lol, got to see ss3 goku.

[@BigA207]

Wait, no Dead Zone or World’s Strongest?

[@ligtningdog6399]

Sad. I know.

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

Revenge of Cooler in 3 words: "Freeza did it!"

[@scottchua58888]

2 major points to be made. 1. Fusion Reborn is far to simple to skip over one of the most touching scenes Vegeta has ever portrayed. I loved this movie because of the interaction between Goku and Vegeta before giving the fans what they wanted, their fusion obviously. 2. The only good thing to me about Cooler's Revenge was the dubbed soundtrack and the eventual creation of The Return of Cooler. The sequel far exceeds the original in every way possible besides the emotion given buuuuttt that's again largely because of the English dub soundtrack. 🤷‍♂️

[@DLxxx]

The dubbed soundtrack in Cooler's Revenge was half the thing that made the movie for. It adds so much tension and atmosphere to even the simplest scuffles. And Cooler himself I also really enjoyed. He's basically Frieza, but more hands on, level headed, and doesn't underestimate his does at any point in the movie (which always impressed as a kid).

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

The sequel doesn’t surpace it at all. It has the worst pacing of all of the movies.

[@scottchua58888]

@@juliandavidhoffer2022 Does it, or are you just using a term that our content provider used multiple times to sound savvy in your rebuttal. You don't have to think of it as one of your favorites but just like Fusion Reborn it's give a intro to create the plot line and then basically relentless action until the resolution. For me, these 2 do what you want from a short shounen movie; give a basic storyline and lots of good action scenes.

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

scotti dont no. It literally has atrocious pacing, 80% of the movie is the main cast fighting a single metal cooler and the robot drones. Then everyone gets captured they get free and kill cooler in the last ten minutes of the movie (if even). It is one of my favorite movies actually, it was the first Z movie I ever owned, but it isn’t one of the best of those movies, not in plot, not in animation, and certainly not in action. It’s got some great scenes, but it needed to be divided into two movies in order to do the concept justice. I’ve always said if bio Broly didn’t exist and instead cooler had 3 movies then Meta Cooler could be the most popular of the movies ideas.

[@scottchua58888]

@@juliandavidhoffer2022 If you liked it then what's your point?? I never said it was one of the best. I said the original isn't one of the best and that the sequel was better.

[@mechajay3358]

They way I see these DBZ films are a visual spectacle. (When there's some good visuals to be seen) I don't bother getting into the story as much as would the television series. The one's I say that kinda do both are World's Strongest, Fusion Reborn, and Wrath of the Dragon.

[@welkijken]

Agreed, and therefor i am so glad they are not canon. I can skip them and not miss anything. Even better, anything that did work seems to get reintroduced into the canon. A massive filter of sorts. The new Broly for example was awesome and they fixed so many things that was wrong with the orriginal.

[@TheDaidai05]

Its a common trait of “good” characters to be loved by animals or have animal companions

[@beancheesedip8337]

True, but Dragon Ball has never put an emphasis on it like that with Goku before. He may pet an animal, but never to the point that he's unconscious in a cave, surrounded by wild animals. Its a bit over the top.

[@dinogt8477]

Goku grew up in the wild so it makes sense why he is friends and is loved by animals

[@Spencer_232]

@@beancheesedip8337 if you watched og db, there's an episode where goku hangs out with some monkeys.

[@beancheesedip8337]

@@Spencer_232 true, I wasn't saying he doesn't care about animals. But the movie treats him like those christ-like figure that cares so much about animals that he revives them and they hang out with him on the brink of death. He's never been portrayed that way.

[@august25th38]

Ngl mark your videos are probably the best made on KZbin

[@jaggyboo6198]

bruh there's thousands of youtubers with this exact style

[@august25th38]

@@jaggyboo6198 yeah but he makes dragon ball videos

[@walidslimani1995]

Are you really going to say that mark is better than my boy MAD420NOSCOPEXD

[@ek06beats57]

Dragon ball

[@head3337]

Super eyepatch wolf: Hold my microphone..

[@Thebes342]

When you're so early that the video says "No Views"....

[@ninjafaceify]

I'd fuck Applejack

[@user-fy1nq3nf1q]

Why do you people say this

[@Suave121]

When you're so early your gf still hasn't come back 😞

[@Mr.Jubilation]

@@ninjafaceify bruh

[@spaghettios5748]

Dab dab because ppl can’t find original comments to make

[@ianjbanks3528]

Cooler: *Before he destroys Earth* "Before I do this, did my brother do this?" Goku: Yeah, but his was smaller Cooler: HA! KNEW IT!

[@wingzero1372]

My top are Tree of might Worlds Strongest Garlic Jr Cooler And Bojack Banana is the best thing ever

[@jiraffe9600]

Subarashii Ningen Well it’s a special not a movie so people don’t put it on their list.

[@wingzero1372]

@@jiraffe9600 yup if I remember it was a special. But Tree of Might was my go to

[@lilchristuten7568]

You mean dead zone?

[@TheAwsomeManny]

I’m surprised no one mentioned any of the broly movies LMFAO 😂

[@burnin8trxx]

Trunks: well I guess... I must... Goku ssj3: IF I DONT WHO WILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL DRAGON FIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@CondeDrareg]

Underrated comment.

[@mrswoodius7476]

I really wish you would say something about cooler's final form

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

My favorite movies are the Abridged series.

[@guilhermefranco2930]

Yes

[@samuraivader3814]

“What!?”

[@skaffatar7664]

Definitely. In all honesty, TFS did the Broly movie better than the original. I mean, the original couldn't have been the same since TFS is a totally different type of dub, but I enjoyed the TFS Broly waay more than the original one

[@bobbob-ke7zo]

People put bojack above tree of might smh.

[@avenge2168]

bob bob no one remembers og evil Goku

[@cuiveirwin]

As they should

[@bobbob-ke7zo]

@@avenge2168 rip my boi turles

[@mathieuleader8601]

I recommend the following: 1. Path to Power 2. Princess in the Castle 3.Dragon Ball GT: A Hero's Legacy 4.Dragon Ball Z: Super Android 13!

[@Spencer_232]

Watched all of your recommendations. A hero's legacy is one of my favourites.

[@JackTSS]

Loved the video man, finally got a chance to watch. I agree with a lot of the things you said! Personally some of my favorite aspects of dragon ball films are the slice of life stuff and idk if I’m alone on that? It’s just nice that the put the characters in normal situations

[@arian8993]

my favorite movies are wrath of the dragon and fusion reborn.

[@BBoy4040]

I forgot the whole thing about them lowering their power levels makes them normal human strength, that's such a logical thing that is never really explored in the main series.

[@thatrippycoyotee9290]

*Mark makes a video* Me: *Aww thanks, Mark. I love you too bud*

[@CoralPolyps]

I'm guessing you watched the sub rather than the dub, considering you didn't even mention Gogeta's theme... you need to go listen to it lol

[@anon3600]

Idk why but it’s oddly satisfying when he transforms and then his theme kicks in.

[@Gigas0101]

might have got that backwards, chief, his theme in the sub is great.

[@arcane1265]

Mark:”The best dragon ball movie I’ve ever seen.” DBS Broly comes out

[@mohamedabdulla6303]

6:31 Why did you need to be told that ? Lmao

[@k1ngk4gl3]

Tapion handing over the blade doesn't do shit to explain how future Trunks gets his blade, considering all the people who are alive...

[@N.N01]

@Trex 2402 yeah but it makes no sense

[@haloandavatar1177]

The implication is that Hirudegarn showed up in Future Trunk’s timeline too. Future Gohan and Trunks were then able to defeat Hirudegarn (likely by killing Tapion).

[@N.N01]

@Trex 2402 hmm. never thought about it like that. my bad

[@TOKYOTOYBANZAI]

As a guy who has a channel that is nearly all Dragon Ball content, I am shocked that you'd never seen these films before. But, it honestly makes it way more interesting to see your perspective on them. I remember getting bootleg copies of these back in high school in the late 90's and being really into a few of them. Too bad I missed your initial poll. Will have to do a Top 5 DBZ movie video on my channel this fall. Keep up the awesome content Mark!! You do way more editing than I'd ever even attempt... and it's totally worth it :)

[@J_dnvg]

Considering that Fusion Reborn was actually my FIRST dbz movie watched, (I was introduced to the show in 2011 so......) And I loved every minute of it, it wasnt my first intro to the series, since it was me playing Budokai Tenchaichi 3 that introduced me to the dbz story, then I watched the show from Raddits to The end of Z. This was what I saw right after, and I still think its my favorite [pre BoG] Dbz movie

[@Squarehead_305]

I really think Tapion is my second favorite character behind ssj 4 gogeta. He just gave off that vibe of a cool character and the pain he held felt real. The trunks scene made me sad, and then when he didnt kill him I was mad but relieved like it was so good.

[@matthart3129]

I absolutely love the music you chose when you talked about Goku saving the day again instead of Trunks in “Wrath of the Dragon”

[@dragonballgacha]

FYI, this is the only movie or piece of Dragon Ball Z where a Saiyan fusion has finished the job.

[@latenitexeno]

Fusion Reborn is an absolutely fantastic film, the bit where Goku says 'Goodbye my Friend'. That should've been the true ending to DBZ

[@wokebans]

Imagine tryna get revenge for your brother’s death and you get blasted into the sun for making a bird pass out

[@tipaccium250]

Best scene from fusion reborn is when Hitler and his army returns to life and Goten and Trunks fight them

[@joeortiz7734]

Blonde hair blue eyes super strength I should be recruiting them. Best line

[@ycoutinho89]

I can't believe that Dead Zone hasn't reached the top 3.

[@chrissullivan6572]

Should be #1

[@thelvadam90]

Goku was always one to care about the lives of others and animals and such. I don't see how healing a bird is such a problem when there are many scenes in Z and Dragon Ball where it shows Goku's care and concern for nature. He healed Frieza in the namek saga lol.

[@armandotron1324]

6:28 “Why did you need to be told that?” That is EXACTLY what I said watching dub for the first time lmaooo. Really like what the dub did for the scene.

[@mrwonka407]

Yeah, people makes fun about the "I'm my father's son" thing but it carries way more emotion than the original.

[@sergiotrejo1571]

You should watch the Team Four Star Abridged version of Cooler's Revenge, it's hilarious

[@megadudeGM101]

The soundtrack of cooler's revenge alone puts it at top spot for me.

[@puppygirlasuka]

I feel the same way about the Bardock special. It’s mediocre in every sense of the word but the music fucking SLAPS. Solid State Scouter is a personal highlight.

[@dbzsonic1069]

Of the pre Battle if Gods movies, Fusion Reborn is *easily* my favorite

[@sauce1820]

“ It lacks originality” Me: if you thought this was unoriginal. Then boy you betta get ready

[@jp3813]

Return of Cooler & Super Android 13 have the best action moments, imo.

[@krillinsindahouse1898]

jp3813 2 of the worst dbz movies alongside with Bio Broly

[@shiranuiaensland1442]

@@krillinsindahouse1898 Bitch, please! Dead Zone, World's Strongest, Tree of Might, Lord Slug, and Broly Second Coming are far worse than those two. Pffft!

[@vacion610]

@@shiranuiaensland1442 He must've been punched/kicked in the dick at some point in his life.

[@solaris_knight99]

Broly: The Legendary Super Sayian also has fantastic action moments imo

[@Levynnn]

You should watch The World's Strongest and Deadzone

[@GorshFlytgear]

Levynn World’s Strongest is the best IMO :)

[@solaris_knight99]

Cooler's Revenge is my personal favourite Dragon Ball movie (including everything after Battle Of Gods), but I respect your opinion on it

[@e.8625]

Dragon wrath was actually a banger for me

[@acematthew01]

It’ll always blow my mind how far animators would push fight scenes in the 2D aspect, that’s why I like all the old DBZ movies. CGI or 3D feels like I’m watching a scene from a video game. Not saying the Super movies are bad cuz I love the plot to them.

[@foalie23]

when he saved that birb i just assumed he gave it some ki, made instant sense to me back in the day Xd

[@thenibelung2660]

3:00 Goku is Jesus, he sacrificed himself to save us from Cell and then came back to fight Majin Boo. Amen.

[@sidecharacter3193]

Oh my fucking kai 😂

[@ziaulabedin1912]

HaveyouacceptedGokuasyourpersonalsavior?

[@SourRobo8364]

Surprised the first Broly movie didn't make it.

[@SourRobo8364]

@FinalNinja Fair point. Still, I would have thought the new one would have revived interest in the original at least.

[@averageLO3]

That movie is hot garbage and belongs nowhere near the top of the list.

[@welkijken]

@@SourRobo8364 There is so much wrong with the Broly movies. Only the visual design and the premise of the one and only "legendary super saiyan" is all it had going for it. As a movie it was pretty damn terrible. I also never seen a movie where the motivation for the main antagonist was so laughily bad that i could not take the rest of the movie serious anymore. But some fans dont care as asingle good visual design is aperantly all that is need for them.

[@budal15]

Its one of the most mediocre. It has good premise but nothing more. Motivation is stupid at best. And action isn't all that great. Broly mostly uses blast from his chest to destroy everyone and does it like 10 times.

[@rigistroni]

In all fairness, the original 2 and bio Broly are pretty awful

[@temerodiavolo470]

Wrath of the Dragon is how GT Trunks gets his sword...

[@sema6969]

imagine if Tapion was connected with Moro, that would be so cool

[@keemerthanever1942]

Well, the movie sadly isn't canon.

[@305Independent]

I like Cooler much better than Frieza. He's more direct, less snobbish, and just plain looks...well...cooler

[@welkijken]

Frieze is awesome for those exact reasons. He is the exact polar opposite to Guku. He is not meant to have any sympathy for or resemble anything likeable. He is a perfect villain design for the main protaganist that is Goku.