Classic Dragon Ball Films | HOT TAKE

Time for Broly!
Last time I watched Fusion Reborn, Wrath of the Dragon, Cooler's Revenge and Bojack Unbound. I loved some and disliked others!
This week we are checking out Dead Zone, The World's Strongest, Broly: The Legendary Super Saiyan and Path to Power.
These are some of the most beloved Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z films!
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[@TotallyNotMark]

How would you rank these 4 movies? Path to power, Broly 1, Dead Zone and The World's Strongest. Don't forget to leave a like or dislike :D

[@austinmitchell2652]

1) Dead Zone 2) Path to Power 3) Broly 4) World's Strongest

[@tornadragon4047]

Woah woah you said broly barely has any lines in the first broly movie? thats the one he talks most and screams the least. Goku:hey how about giving us a handicap Broly:is that another word for coffin? Vegeta:I am the ruler of all saiyans even you broly Broly: Then please try your best to make me kneel before you The problem is he only speaks in oneliners after hes unleashed. broly movie 2 though is all screaming.

[@young_shaad5227]

I mean like father like son for path to power if you get what i mean

[@goldeyeblue]

To be frank I don’t care about the anime industry being taken “seriously”, as long as what I’m watching is just fun or engaging! I just think these kind of puritanical hangups around such content, are an arbitrary hang up of our own Western Culture. I personally like the cheesecake fanservicey Bulma scenes, and I don’t think those forms of base entertainment, take away from the integrity of the rest of the films story and narrative! And plain and simple, there are plenty of anime to watch with leagues more fanservice and titilation, and plenty of series to watch that have not an ounce of that type of content, and at the end of the day what you want to watch is your choice. I just find it extremely obnoxious when people morally judge a work of fiction as inferior for having some quality they personally don’t like, or feel psychically embarrassed by some arbitrary aspect of the work based on what the feel others will think!

[@wolfgod6443]

For me: from best to worst, Path to Power, World's Strongest, Dead Zone, Broly. I agree with everything you said about Path to Power. Worlds Strongest I mostly agree with, though honestly I forgot they explained Wheelo's motivations so much as you say, but I'll take your word for it. I still think it's in the top 3 best Z movies because the fights tell their own story. It's one thing to have good animation (which it has), but seeing the internal thoughts of the characters is equally important. Goku really sold the fight with Wheelo as something brutal and insurmountable, and in turn it makes Wheelo feel more interesting and intimidating (maybe more than he actually is). Also, Wheelo's funimation dub voice is outstanding. I'm a huge fan of the original DB and Dead Zone captures those feelings for me, but with concepts from Z which is a nice blend. I don't care much for Garlic Jr., but the lore is interesting and overall the characters just feel right and are written well, especially Kami. The plot I hardly gave any thought in this case, but I think good pacing and characters is more important regardless (which is also why I prefer Worlds Strongest over Wrath of the Dragon even though the latter technically has a better "plot"). I really don't care for the Z Broly movie. I get a kick out of Paragus's Shakespearean style of villainy with his long monologues, tragic irony, and dramatic movements, but otherwise the story is awful. The fights are neat, but I prefer the animation in Worlds Strongest or Cooler's Revenge and the choreography of Fusion Reborn, Bojack Unbound, or Return of Cooler anyways.

[@tiablue9106]

btw the reason the movies tend to feel like “extended episodes” is bc they were rlly just made to promote the series. They were shown at festivals/fairs among other anime films abt every year, which is also why they tend to be so short and borrow things from the main series. I know it doesn’t rlly affect their quality, but they are basically meant to be advertisements for DB, not proper movies

[@risingrevolt]

You deserve more likes

[@AlmightyKing143]

Hmm, that's nice a little tidbit. Thanks for the info

[@MrJohnDoe2525]

You speak the true true!

[@Atticus_Moore]

this so much so glad someone said this. mark over here not liking some of the best dbz movies because it reuses stuff from the main show like come on man not what the movies were for you can't sit there and judge it like a real film when it wasn't made for that

[@dragoonraptor]

Honestly that's what I was going to say. The problem is that he's thinking of these as "MOVIES", feature length films with feature length film quality. But they aren't. They're more like short stories. And I think part of this is evident in the fact that most of these "movies" aren't even an hour long. Personally I think the best way to enjoy and judge these movies is to compare them more to each other than the actual movies or shows.

[@elliott1781]

"Android 8 Refuses to fight" *proceeds to show him kicking Goku through a pillar*

[@ultrainstinctluffy1312]

lol

[@illastratorr2001]

"Bokack Skipped" Damm, still hurts lmao TFS fans will understand

[@LaddiLo]

That made me ROFL 😂😂

[@Darkdayzz]

I mean you can't blame them. The movie has nothing really to make fun off besides the fight. There's no expansion to the general lore... etc etc

[@benjaminpeters6729]

@@Darkdayzz you get tien vs trunks

[@goldensaiyan4]

Darkdayzz Same can be said to Cooler’s Revenge

[@jarlbalgruuf2415]

@@Darkdayzz Never stopped them before.

[@berserkchip]

Mark, my guy, my fellow DB enthusiast, HOW OH HOW could you have possibly missed the deeper meaning behind Goku's anger at the end of "Path to Power"? That scene is the reason the movie is LEGENDARY. Goku stares upon the mangled lifeless (albeit robotic) body of Android 8, and after screaming his head off, says this line. "That's what really happened to you, right Grandpa? When you said you 'had to go'?" Goku's not just angry because his friend was killed. Goku is angry because he just discovered what 'death' is. When Goku is first introduced, he literally believes the 4 Star Dragon Ball 'is' his Grandfather, Gohan. In reality, Grandpa Gohan was killed by Goku's Great Ape transformation. Goku found Gohan nearly dead, and his last words to him was that he had to go but he'd always be with him in the 4-star Ball. Goku is dumb. he took that literally, which is why he didn't feel 'real' grief over his grandfather's death. Not until this exact moment. Goku blows away General Black with a Super Kamehameha, vowing to never allow him to do to anyone else what he did to "Eighter." But that's not enough to make Goku content. He still screams, still powers up, but unlike any other power up scene in the series, he is crying at the same time, all the while processing his newfound understanding of death and his newly discovered purpose of defending life. NOW, GRANTED, if the movie had cut to black and rolled credits right there, it would have been a master piece, but no, of course they have to use the dragon balls to bring Eighter back, and like, why wouldn't you, it's kind of cute, but I do admit that the very last scene undercuts the tragedy and gravitas of Goku's greatest Kamehameha. Mark. My youtube content creator that I watch from time to time, you are telling me you didn't process ANY of this during your viewership of the movie? Like, are you kidding me? Please rewatch the ending of the film if you think I'm crazy. Everything I laid out is there in that scene. This movie deserves better than "good animation, shit ending tho"

[@SexFuneral]

*me knowing what happened to Grampa Gohan* *watching it for the first time, only after reading OC* Me 2 hrs later: Yeah man these damn aller*sniff*........aller..........*prolonged baww*

[@drago939393]

His entire thing is being this analytical, narrative critic of DragonBall - yet he misses this. Lol.

[@splatzx3488]

Ooh that’s dark.

[@infamousplayer8772]

He didn't say it was bad or anything like that, he just said he wanted more of a reason for Goku and Android 8 to care about each other so much, and he justified by saying it was because Goku was still really innocent and Eighter never had a friend before, but yeah, he definitely missed that detail that it wasn't just because he had lost his friend but that he just found out what death actually was... only to then immediately realize it had no consequences whatsoever because DRAGON BALLS YAY!!!! I'm just saying, he didn't have nearly as much of a problem with this as you make it out to be.

[@RitaLovelyMeter]

If he says that, it must be a dub-only line or something the subtitlers added in, bc it's not in my version at all

[@SeeReax]

You’re the best when it comes to DB Anime related topics. You have great editing, commentary, and all that. Keep it up dude.

[@nani2471]

SeeReax oh shoot he’s here :0

[@knowone1541]

THE KING OF BOWER IS HERE!?

[@jabarithegoldenlucario8841]

I can smell what Reax is cookin here.

[@Soras_Overdose]

Bower tho

[@terrydubuisson4209]

Legion of bower

[@vegitodoritos9855]

Mark is the only youtuber i know who actually sticks to his youtube schedule.

[@YunoGasai_1]

His upload schedule always reminds me that it's Thursday.

[@ItsAppleJuice]

Princess_Link fr

[@sergioambriz9338]

*his

[@trevorpollo]

*his

[@vegitodoritos9855]

My grammar is ass sorry, his

[@EpicDave]

"Your hair looks like lavender but smells like strawberries". That's the Broly I know lol.

[@maddyv5948]

The original broly's character design is pretty awesome 😄

[@JJ-xo3er]

Maddy V I preferred Bio Broly

[@alduinthetyrant5225]

@@JJ-xo3er I prefer Kale.

[@InspectorChairLeg]

@@JJ-xo3er Who hurt you, my friend

[@bullettime1116]

@@InspectorChairLeg i prefer mr jaguar

[@InspectorChairLeg]

@@bullettime1116 Fair enough

[@tributontenkaiiceblast2646]

Gang: Why is Broly so angry? Paragus: Goku wouldn't stop crying when they were babies. Me: *Okay, but why tho?*

[@ordieloved]

I mean he is batshit insane.. Insane ppl can rage at the smallest of things or smallest of bad memories, I always thought if fits perfectly. Especially cause he didn't follow his father etc

[@denisn8336]

he was stabbed and is mentally Ill Jesus you guys annoy me at times

[@tmoney8876]

@@denisn8336 Then he should be mad at Vegeta since it was his father who stabbed him

[@jarlbalgruuf2415]

@@tmoney8876 does he know that or does he the crying to the stabbing, cuz you know he was a baby

[@denisn8336]

@@tmoney8876 true but it's Goku that put him in distress too he found his cries hunting and scard him just as much its definitely not great writing but its not awful

[@thegamegrumpsletsplayofmaj5727]

Classic Films are a ride We start with a pre-Z story about a young gohan and ends with SSJ3 Goku fighting a Kaiju in the middle of the city alongside bootleg Link

[@kennyowensby5288]

The Game Grumps Let’s Play of Majora’s Mask I guess it’s link cosplaying a NightElf Mohawk.

[@MV96_]

*Bootleg Supreme Kai

[@thejamman4070]

Ok, that almost actually sells me on this.

[@tiablue9106]

Alright these are all the old DB movies and specials he has yet to review: -Curse of the Blood Rubies (movie) -Sleeping Princess in Devil’s Castle (movie) -Mystical Great Adventure (movie) -Tree Of Might (movie) -Bardock: Father Of Goku (special) -Lord Slug (movie) -Return Of Cooler (movie) -Super Android 13 (movie) -Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans (special) -History Of Trunks (special) -Broly the Second Coming (movie) -Bio-Broly (movie) -Episode Of Bardock (special) -A Hero’s Legacy (special) -Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return (special) chop chop update: since ppl didn’t read the first part and got all technical, I distinguished between the movies and specials

[@paneltwin]

Tia Blue some of those were specials but alright

[@valentds]

don't scare totally not mark with so much content

[@nixuniverse5240]

I have literally never heard of those first 3

[@bluest_boi]

Weren’t some of those hour-long TV Specials instead of actual movies?

[@PhantomVortex]

Curse of the blood rubies was on point

[@DavesConceptShow]

Honestly, watching TeamFourStar versions before the actual movie makes impossible to ignore all the stupid mistakes.

[@uwu_presidente4292]

I can’t watch regular dragon ball like that any more tfs ruined it bruh like I love Sean schemcle and all but masako got him beat

[@sirtacomaster5978]

Yea I love their version of movies 1 and 2

[@redgrave4492]

Yeah I was just thinking about the way Garlic and his minions realized they almost messed up their entire plan by trying to kill Piccolo

[@michaelmaragh5367]

Lmaoo truthfully

[@Detahramet]

They ruined it by doing it better.

[@thereisnotryv1971]

5:37 "It's honestly like the people writing this don't know the rules of the world they're writing for" That's so accurate it hurts

[@henrymcbark7337]

Still holds true in modern Dragon ball. lol

[@JaxBlade]

5:11 I shed a tear I laughed so hard xD

[@mikeexits]

It was hilarious. I'd love to see more animated hypothetical scenes like this from Mark.

[@scott5388]

@Majin Melon wait so you would kidnap someone

[@Conceptcreator]

That kamehameha in path to power is soooo well done!!!! So beautifully animated!!!

[@GokuOffersYouAPotara]

????

[@jabarithegoldenlucario8841]

Did you have a Stroke?

[@adrenaliner91]

"Even if you apologize, I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU" I don't know if that is part of the movie because I've seen it only in japanese (is there an english dub? It wasn't dubbed to german unfortunately) but it's from the games.

[@babyshoebox1]

I love the line "hey broly how about you give us a handicap" "is that another word for coffin"

[@SonofTiamat]

Say what you want about his origin story, but he still had some killer one liners

[@fitzhugh7463]

Alfredo Sanchez he actually says something like “take it easy” and broly says “easy? I don’t know what that means”

[@thepixelman4776]

@@SonofTiamat bet you wanna go home huh? BUT ITS JUST A DREAM!

[@Deathmare235]

@@SonofTiamat funny thing is he had a great origin but that’s not the thing that effected him

[@L33PL4Y]

I doubt that's in the Japanese version.

[@jacobmonks3722]

I love Path to Power. It's got the characteristic Toriyama touch, some beautiful animation with great detail, and the colors just POP. It is one of my favorite movies to watch. Even if narratively, it isn't the greatest thing out there, it is still charming enough to steal my attention.

[@doncon_380]

Broly is really strong? You mean his power is MAXIMUUUUM!

[@adhamwashere5320]

His power is MAXIMUMER

[@nonamemage6599]

Hes sooo cool, but so dumb

[@-cams.]

@@nonamemage6599 he's literally a *_giant fucking baby!!!_*

[@asianpersuasion4901]

@@adhamwashere5320 his power is MAXIMUMEST!!!

[@Amanda1234558]

BrOlY iS tHe... tHe... tHe DeViL >:)

[@crackhead5238]

I love the Classic DB Movies, they just give me that nostalgia kicking in!

[@cunkbumcket8217]

broly has quite a lot of dialogue imo. after watching it over 10 times. He toys with his victims and plays this psychological game with them. like when hes looking at the little race of creatures enslaved on new planet vegeta and he says" oh look, the little slaves decide to be brave. i noticed that you love to look up in the sky at your silly old planet. i bet you wish you could go back there one day. but its all a dream! and then he goes to throw a ki blast into them and last second it curves to go and blow up their planet as they watch. and his remark is "oops, did i just blow it up?" followed by maniacal laughing as he takes pleasure in the destruction and mind games. or like the moment right after broly sends trunks into a cliffside and he turns to goku and says " kakarott? how much do you love your son?" striking genuine fear into goku making him yell for gohan to run before clashing into a test of strength with broly knowing he'd lose to buy gohan time because he knew what would happen otherwise. and i remember him calling goku by his name, goku. it only happens once but at least he does it. he talks way more than DBS broly did throughout the whole movie and i find his dialogue really builds hsi character, even though the motive may not be there i feel like its made up for in the same way a psych ward patient isnt expected to have a method to his madness or a reason for his actions. and theres this small hinting throughout the film that he has the same pride as vegeta as he calls out to goku " show me your fighting spirit or i will blow up this planet!" encouraging goku to fight him at full power like all saiyans crave. giving motivation to the fight in that he craves the passion of battle just as goku and vegeta do. also in the same way as my comparison to a psych ward patient i think by the flashbacks to his past he wasnt stable. he was uncontrollable and emotionally unstable. at any moment he would go berserk and thats why paragus had to control him in the first place. i think looking at it through this it shows more why goku crying may have had a lasting impact however i am in no way saying its a great motive for a plot. just how with whats presented in the film how it might make more sense. but at the end of the day an opinion is an opinion and to each their own. though maybe having a different pair of eyes to look at something through may allow you to see something you otherwise may have glossed over or didnt put together the first time.

[@yvahri5048]

I’ve always said this in the first move he had a lite of dialogue.

[@L33PL4Y]

You're talking about the English dub, right? I'm quite sure in the Japanese he hardly says anything.

[@malcolmrff]

Broly: the legendary super saiyan will always hold a special place in my heart.

[@irish_starfish]

My Eyes have been so Opened with the plot of the Dead zone and Worlds Strongest

[@VarjoPira]

Feels like nostalgia and time really clouded my memories.

[@xenoxxillia1411]

3:36 that is maybe one of the best animated sequences in all of dragon ball. I haven’t seen the movie but that shot alone looks so good.

[@305Independent]

Broly subconsciously associates Goku's crying with being stabbed and left for dead....That's why he hates him. I picked that up immediately upon watching the film. Why hasn't the rest of the fandom?

[@PrinceHbk08]

Clef the Misfit omggg thannk youuu I thought I was the only one that knows lol it’s like the whole fandom is so closed minded that it’s annoying 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@lewis2hire980]

Randy Styles it’s just the retarded reason honest

[@lewis2hire980]

Randy Styles There could’ve been other babies in the crib so I don’t know how he knew it was Goku so the reasoning is still dumb

[@PrinceHbk08]

Amari Lewis maybe because goku was the only baby that survived and the guards probably kept laughing at broly and mention how Kakarot kept making him cry

[@anirudhviswanathan3986]

@@lewis2hire980 It's an irrational trigger, and was presented as such. Goku crying wasn't a motivation in the slightest, Broly was always unstable and unhinged without Paragus's device. Goku re-appearing is just the catalyst for Broly to totally go unhinged. And if you watch the movie, Broly doesn't just mindless yell KAKAROOOT!! He gives some really clever lines, shows absolute arrogance towards everyone who couldn't even scratch him, taunts Goku by attacking Gohan, blowing up parts of the planet, and even mocks Vegeta. In fact, it's directly stated in the movie that Broly has wrecked planets well before even seeing Goku's face.

[@metal882]

Paragus: Well Vegeta it seems you've discovered my Master plan! Vegeta: ....ok?

[@jignaio5762]

The way I see Broly's character...is that he's nothing but a ruthless psychopath, victim of his own power. It is shown during flashbacks that Paragus can't hold him or supress that sadistic behavior during his childhood until the introduction of the tiara. Once you see it like that, there is no need to look for any justification in Broly's actions: he's always been mentally ill.

[@lordcabrito]

"The opening we had in the west". Not in the west just in the US. In South America we have the original opening and ending with a almost perfect spanish translation of the song. :)

[@beto31890]

I honestly really enjoyed the heavy metal music that they placed in the english dub version of the first broly movie.

[@dashingdreww1185]

I still love that scene when Broly transforms and the animation makes it look like he blows up

[@jrpludacrous]

Surprised you weren't caught off guard with Goku's GT get up and the GT theme being used in Path to Power

[@SnailSnail-lo4pm]

I noticed that but wrote it off because he didn't mention

[@bacon5869]

The part where Goku teleports into Krillin's punch in the Broly Movie. I Fucking love that. It actually shows a real situation that could happen while Goku teleports, Like, this dude could teleport in the middle of Vegeta and Bulma sweeping it in their bed.

[@Dyneamaeus]

I've always felt one of the main reasons the first Broly movie is so memorable was the presentation of Broly himself. He's utterly unique in DB before Super. He's huge powerful and dangerous. He radiates sheer malicious joy while fighting. Even the way he moved in combat was incomparable to the rest of the series' villains, except maybe Buu. If his motivation wasn't breathtakingly stupid Broly would have been a fantastic villain..

[@garristhemont1586]

I saw a really cool theory where Broly's mind associated Goku's constant crying with Planet Vegeta's destruction, since he was so young when it was destroyed. Made his bad motivation make at least a little more sense, to me at least

[@ordieloved]

Why want an *insane* monster to have "personality" or emotions or any goals in life at all? There wouldn't be any motivations.. Insane ppl can rage at the smallest of bad memories, so even the Goku thing fits

[@Mrryn]

My issue with this (and with Broly's issue with Goku in general) is how the fuck does Broly tie the name Kakarrot to *anything* ?? He was a fucking baby at the time! Was everyone just going around the pods talking about Bardock the brilliant scientist's kid on loop so much that the name just stuck in his infant subconscious...and talking about Kakarrot over the baby with a power level of 10 fucking thousand?! It'd be more believable that Broly heard his own name more as a baby and ended up getting triggered by someone saying Broly instead of Kakarrot.

[@ordieloved]

@@Mrryn Yeah that's the only thing I always questioned, I took it as either Sayian babies having better memory capabilities, or Broly's bad memory sticking cause he's insane, or both.

[@snakeboy2017]

You should look at the "Kakarot crying" thing as more of a thematic relationship: Goku, despite being a weak piece of shit with a PL of 3, was sent to Earth where he lived a good life, made friends, had a good adoptive father/grandpa and managed to become so strong by his own will. Broly, on the other hand, despite being a baby with a PL of 10.000 was rejected by society, stabbed, manipulated by his father, unable to control his powers or emotions, becoming a fucking monster. Also, a bit after Goku cried, Bolt got almost stabbed. Not a particularly good memory. But yeah, I do not think it's very intentional, and it's still dumb when the movie exposes it like that.

[@bonbondurjdr6553]

@@ordieloved because it makes for better storytelling.

[@godzillakingofthemonsters5812]

I think Broly's description here better suits the second movie. Here it's pretty clear he's a deranged psycho and he only seemed calm and collected when Paragus was directly suppressing his anger and emotion. I don't know about you, but that was pretty easy to discern for me.

[@MrQuarantine]

Wow, it's so suprising to see how opposite Marc's opinion on some of the films like Dead zone, Bojack, and worlds strongest are compared to tfs who adored them.

[@Reyven_]

When sex and violence sell in america like coffee I can't really see a problem with japan doing the same in anime.

[@dragoonraptor]

In Dragon Ball, Bulma is underage

[@Reyven_]

@@dragoonraptor by america's standards yes by japan's no.

[@acequs]

This is the only comment taking this stance that I actually agree with lmao. It's a bit overdone in this particular movie imo tho

[@Reyven_]

@@acequs I would agree that it's a bit overdone then I remember american horror story. But joking aside it comes down to different normalization's in other counties and how ages are perceived. like how 12 and 16 sounds really bad but 20 and 24 sounds normal.

[@smokerazor1]

Someone who gets it

[@TechnicSky]

3:52 That sound effect is so hilarious. Now I want a gif of that with other random sound effects

[@Rexthegreat64101]

I'm so glad you're doing another one! If you ever do a part 3 you should totally do the Meta Cooler movie

[@BubblesChika]

Team Four Star's remake of the original Broly was hilarious.

[@kendukin9725]

A great part to the early movies I always enjoyed was the soundtrack. Broly, Coolers Revenge, Broly Second Coming, etc. had great soundtracks.

[@Dw7freak]

If you think World's Strongest rips off the Vegeta vs Goku fight, just watch Tree of Might.

[@Kurayamiblack]

Soon... Very soon...

[@hoeswayymedina]

Just wanna say I fuckin love your channel and how stoked you are to make DB content! its so rad to see so many people engaged in discussion over what we all love! Please keep the videos comin! 🙏🙌🍻🔥

[@Baron_Wurst]

Honestly, the fan service in anime isn't the thing that's holding it back in the western market. Western media has plenty of fan service, even if you won't see it much in cartoons. People in the west (the ones that aren't familiar with anime) don't take it serious because they still see it through the lens of the Animation Age Ghetto. Then they see it as something weird and 'other'. I've seen people get massive cognitive dissonance after watching an innocent Ghibli film and react like they've just seen Bible Black. You can't blame that one on fan service.

[@doomeddoomer2896]

Right we're sorry we see blatant pedophilic shit in anime as just 'weird' and 'other'

[@dylancross1039]

@@doomeddoomer2896 "Pedophilic". In America, sure. In Japan? Not so much.

[@ningen7736]

Look Into It Lol, keep screaming about fan service in anime it’ll totally help stop pedophilia. Oh and don’t worry about supporting pride parades those definitely don’t encourage people to fuck actual real kids or anything.

[@Takeshi357]

It's the same kind of mentality that makes people think you're deranged because you like Urotsukidoji; they think anything sexualized in any way exists _only_ to titillate. In Urotsukidoji, it's instead used to horrify. In Dragonball, it's used for comedy. The only reason you'd call it "pedophilic" is because you either can't see it, or worse, it titillates _you_ and you're projecting. Or, y'know, it's just because for Americans all nudity is sexual.

[@aquelgamermexicano]

I can already hear AnimeAjay being like "YOU SON OF A--"

[@Trxpamvs]

HOT TAKE: bio broly is a really fun movie, I watched it expecting to hate it but honestly it’s such a good & refreshin Dragon Ball movie that for once focuses on Goten & Trunks and they actually carry themselves quite nicely. Ppl that actually hate this never saw it properly.

[@theflashgordon193]

yep I don't understand the hate with this one. even character like krilin and C-18 can shine

[@tiablue9106]

DB fans don’t know what they want. They hate how Goku always saves the day in the movies but then they make a movie without Goku and everyone calls it the worst. (same with the Garlic Jr. Arc) Not saying it’s perfect by any means, but it deserves a little credit for being unique

[@MrLorddarktoothx]

trunks pees on broly. your argument is invalid. trash movie is trash.

[@spinceiling7442]

I have no idea why Bio Broly is so hated. It's nice to look at and it's really fun. Plus it focuses on some of my favorite characters and it's not like any of these movies has a strong plot

[@Trxpamvs]

Jon Alba that’s not even bio broly bruh. U just proved my point u didn’t even watch the fkn movie

[@cesarvictoriano8072]

7:21 THANK YOU! Once I saw Dead Zone I knew that Botamo was pretty much Mammal Blub Blub.

[@PopLol]

If you start to think from another perspective, broly went through a lot as a kid, no even a baby just because he was the legendary super saiyan. He literally got stabbed through his belly and was left to die. Right after that he wanted to save his injured father and went beserk using his powers to survive a planet getting destroyed so he had to live in space with his dad alone. And because of his aggression and mental instability his dad controlls him and he becomes this quiet scared man child who doesnt want to upset his father and rarely has contact with others. The only thing in his life which he remembers and triggers him is goku so if you take these things into consideration then his character makes much more sense.

[@apophisgaming4964]

Chichi defending herself; "Housewife style: Kick of One Thousand Menstrual Cycles"

[@HENRYN08]

I strongly recommend watching the original 4 Dragon Ball films. They're grossly overlooked and mostly really good.

[@jiraffe9600]

Lord Beerus I didn’t really like sleeping princess , and mystical adventure that much but they were still ok. The path the power is my favorite despite power scaling problems

[@alirioandreslizardovalles8943]

i really like the work you have been doing with the description of db. It helps me to improve my understanding and listening of the english. By the way, i'm studying to be a english teacher, that is why i never miss your videos.

[@CALIGS]

Z movies 1, 2, 4, 9, 12 and 13 either have some excellent important moments or feel like excellent filler story, as you said like extended epsiodes of the show itself. I enjoy that personally. 11 to me is always fun if you don't consider it a Broly movie. DB Path to Power is excellent. I wish the entire franchise was animated exactly like that. I enjoy all 4 of the DB films though.

[@Csampsonite7]

I'm calling it now: The new worst is going to be The Return of Cooler.

[@based54]

mark is gonna be like " mecha freeza but with less personality , next!"

[@Vichingo23]

no way. I see him hating super android 13 way more.

[@ShashankShukla3103]

Are u forgetting Bio Broly?

[@valentds]

@@ShashankShukla3103 bio broly. some cool action fight, all the rest a shame

[@12227UserName]

Bio Broly, Android 13, Wrath of the Dragon are worse films, in my opinion.

[@YoYo-qf4ud]

5:15 why did that make me laugh.

[@mikelxanadu]

Yo Yo Because Mark is funny.

[@theluchakabuto5206]

Iv'e been binge watching your videos and this came at a perfect time

[@Feesh116]

Also the English release for Broly had Pantera, Doosu, Gravity Pool, Tendril, El Gato, and more. The English soundtrack was bonkers and I loved it.

[@Dragonovers]

Funny thing with the exposition of the broly moovie it's almost like theater

[@dylanvanhise503]

Super 13, Cooler Returns, Turles, and Slug should be your next ones. Or the Broly sequels lol

[@HeavyMetalBeliever]

Tree Of Might is my personal favourite Dragon Ball movie.

[@spinceiling7442]

@@HeavyMetalBeliever Ah a man of culture

[@diddlenfiddle7311]

wow, can't wait for your opinion on the og dragonball films. Love it so far!

[@Sawngawkuh]

The idea behind Broly's motivation is that he isn't so much upset about Goku's crying in of itself, but that he perceives it making him weep all that time ago as him being dominated by what's supposed to be a weakling. They have these monitoring people off-screen being amused by how the super strong child is being made to look like a wimp at the cries of a low-class baby, and this is what seems to set Broly off. It's more or less Toei's attempt at framing Broly as another enemy Goku had quote, unquote "defeated" in the past and is looking to get back him when he comes back into his life. It's just a tad contrived because it's more of a forced metaphorical defeat when they were friggen babies rather than an actual defeat in combat.

[@malikcarson14]

Just saw path to power. Animation was beautiful

[@Drakogy]

It's odd to me that everyone fails to note that the was a relentless attempt on his life and Broly and has since associated Goku's voice with danger and agitation. Has any thought been put into this angle?

[@tiablue9106]

The movie hints at that and it’s clear since Goku’s cries trigger him it does make him think of that. But the fact that he has such a hate boner for Goku specifically makes it seem like he is just pissed at him for crying. Personally I’ve always been indifferent to the whole I never thought it was a big deal but I can’t fault ppl for making fun of it when the movie doesn’t present it very well

[@fragile4408]

10:13 he has some dialogue in this one. One of my favorite one liners Goku: HEY! How about a break Broly: Is that another word for coffin?

[@Magmafrost13]

Wow those Path to power clips are absolutely beautiful. Im very much a fan of that aesthetic

[@JustJay2282]

What about Dragon Ball Z: Bardock? That's my favorite movie by far.

[@tylerman39]

That's not a movie. It's a TV special.

[@MaxIronsThird]

@@tylerman39 Just like the other best one, History of Trunks

[@tonyinfinite5174]

Best Bardock that retcon guy was super lame

[@DLxxx]

@@tonyinfinite5174 And it was such an unnecessary retcon too. At this point though, I'll probably always see it as cannon for the most part regardless.

[@sgtvirus6696]

@@DLxxx IMO I was fine with most of the changes but Bardock not taking down Frieza's Elites and him not standing up to Frieza in a badass way like in the special just really makes me hate the Bardock portion of the movie.

[@tadic4285]

I really like dbz world's strongest.

[@xXNightmareZero8Xx]

Me too. Luckily, opinions and tastes are subjective and we don't have to agree with those of whatever youtuber we are watching. I feel like too many people let their honest opinions and feeling towards things get covered up by whatever the "popular opinion" is for the sake of fitting in, even if they don't necessarily agree.

[@Benimore]

I like it too. Also, I think it's the only time during the Z era in which we could see Roshi kicking asses.

[@okeomslax26]

I’m so glad you loved (most parts of) path to power. I love that movie, it’s a solid movie for dbz fans who never watched dragon ball

[@Dan55888]

The thing I liked about the first Broly movie is the way he fights and moves is unique from a lot of other characters fighting, you can easily see it's all power and hate. The way he destroys landscape as he moves, the way he pushes people and slams them rather than just punching rapidly and blocking is very different, the way he just goes through and brushes off attacks, the power and his motivation is shown in his fighting.

[@masterpx738]

2:08 - They don't really care about how the rest of the world takes his animations

[@sadman7753]

It's pretty easy to spot dragon ball fans *in the distance* OH MY KAMI oop here's another one

[@MFOnslaught]

Might as well do all the movies Mark. You’re reviews are pretty spot on. Keep up the good work

[@griffinbenedict3025]

Broly Second Coming - I know it is NOT a good movie, but for some reason I found it very enjoyable. It was action with some funny moments, staples of DBZ movies, but Vic Mignogna's performance as Maniacal Broly from the older movies, even with only one real line on Second Coming, I enjoyed far more than in DBS Broly. DBS Broly is great, but I can never get enough of Broly's Chaotic Evil Laughter.

[@denisn8336]

same

[@undergroundmetallyrics3225]

I'm pretty sure Broly has more of a personality than Janemba so that's good haha

[@denisn8336]

na he had plenty of personality in fact quite alot but he had no development and got worse over time with different film's but his first film was his best and he is entertaining asf

[@undergroundmetallyrics3225]

@@denisn8336 broly is my fav character in all of dragon ball tbh I love all of then except bio broly -_-

[@denisn8336]

@@undergroundmetallyrics3225 bio broly should be forgotten it did such a disservice to the character

[@undergroundmetallyrics3225]

@@denisn8336 ikr

[@undergroundmetallyrics3225]

@@denisn8336 Dark Broly saved what Bio Broly destroyed tbh

[@darksouldestroyer2909]

I liked the wourld strongest and dead zone, that's because they are how I got into Dragonball Z.

[@rawsodium1962]

Yo, that thumbnail is fire. I always thought base Z Broly's design was awesome and you certainly did it justice, Mark.

[@cjsher90]

Im glad i went back to read your joke titles. Totally Not Frieza, i love it. Huge fan!!!

[@pj_spirit]

This comment is really long so in case you’re lazy, so I’ll put a tldr, just don’t argue with me if you didn’t read the whole comment because I don’t feel like repeating what I already said. Tldr: Broly is a cool concept if you’re under the age of 10. He should have either have been motiveless and just insane or been angry at Vegeta, not Goku. He has way too much in his backstory for him clinging onto the memory of Goku crying to be what sets him off and even without all of his backstory, that’s just a stupid motivation regardless. I used to love DBZ Broly for the same reasons people do today. He’s a big strong guy. And that’s cool and all, but then I turned 12 and realized that his motive is just ridiculous. People come up with all types of theories on the true meaning behind it to justify the absurdity of it, but at the end of the day it just doesn’t make sense due to multiple points. Years later his motive became even less justifiable to me. He was stabbed and was on Vegeta when it blew up, but the crying is what gets him? Why? And how did he learn the name Kakarott? At best some passing saiyans mentioned it, but how often did that happen when 2 feet away was a baby with a power level of 10,000? Who the hell cared about the loud baby with a power level of 2 or something? But sure, someone said the name Kakarrot AND Broly connected that name to the crying infant AND remembered it all those years later. If he has that type of memory capacity as a baby, why not remember the face of the man who stabbed him and left him for dead, King Vegeta? He should have seen Vegeta the fifth’s face and gone apeshit right away. Instead, he SEES Goku, whose face he probably didn’t have much, if any chance to see and nearly loses it had it not been for the control device. And Vegeta exploding at best was a light show with his barrier blocking out the force of explosion and in theory the sound, but 17’s barriers let sound through so if we use those as reference, Broly at worst, heard the explosion of a planet from inside the damn explosion (and he and Paragus somehow didn’t go deaf.) If he couldn’t hear it, the destruction of his planet is basically irrelevant and this point can be thrown away. Up to you if you want to count it since it’s admittedly very vague. If he could hear it, the sound of that explosion was somehow less prominent and less traumatic than a baby crying for a while. What sucks is that for me is that Broly didn’t need a motive. He could have just been insane and I would have just been fine with him. But his motive is a key part of his character. It’s why he’s antagonist towards the protagonists and his power is tied directly to his anger and insanity, which is fueled by this desire to get revenge for his missed nap time. I can’t just ignore this aspect of his character because it’s half of his character and it’s stupid. It completely throws in the trash a cool concept. The concept alone was so cool that as a child I literally lied to myself and convinced me and my friends that we were all too stupid to understand the “greatness” of Broly because there simply wasn’t any way that the Legendary Super Saiyan was motivated by a crying infant. That would be stupid. So stupid that even a child would realize that it just makes no sense. Lastly, another solution besides making him just crazy and uncontrollable rather than being a grown man holding 30+ year old grudge from when he was fresh out the coochie, was shifting his motive towards Vegeta how I said earlier. Make him a character after revenge or retribution. Make Broly either have PTSD over the stabbing or just want vengeance, either works, and put the sins of King Vegeta on Prince Vegeta’s head.

[@DarthWall275]

Z-Broly is the perfect one-shot villain: an unstoppable, psychotic monster who just wrecks while looking like a total badass, but is still ultimately inconsequential to the main narrative of the series, and his one-note personality means he would be a poor arc villain. His motivation is a little silly but ultimately I find it better than nothing. Overall Z Broly is still a cool villain and I'm always happy to see (and play as) him in his various video game appearances. And as I'm 25 I think it's safe to say he doesn't just appeal to 10 year olds.

[@prl4122]

Pj Spirit eh I feel like you’re being a little too hard on it, like yeah you’re correct about most of what you said but I’ve never really felt like dragon ball was ever above something a 10 year old would enjoy. Like I would understand if this was hunter x hunter or full metal alchemist where character motivations and backstories are good and unique and also have a thematic purpose but it’s dragon ball where time travel, fusions and gods all exist and are introduced mid story to move the plot but as a dumb kid that’s why I like dragon ball

[@pj_spirit]

DarthWall275 I would have literally preferred nothing though, rather than what we got for his backstory. It would have sold his uncontrollable rampage even more, but now it’s more akin to a galaxy threatening temper tantrum. We’ve had antagonistic characters, villains or otherwise in DB before with no real backstory or reason to do what they did. Frieza, Hit, Cell, several RR Army commanders, Cooler and even Buu. Hell, Hirudegarn worked fantastically and it has absolutely no sentience. They all were great and we don’t know much of anything about them. But adding something stupid to the character that is half of the reason why he matters at all just ruins what could have been just fine on its own. It’d be one thing if it was played for a joke, but it’s really not. Regardless of whether or not he was a oneshot villain, he’s still ruined by his motivation. It’s just so distracting and completely detracts from the fact that he could be cool. That’s the worse part. He was soo close to staying this immutable badass but even a child could see what’s wrong about how he was written.

[@pj_spirit]

PRL 412 That hardly justifies anything though. He was a serious character and his backstory was presented as a serious thing to tell why this monstrous threat was out to kill everyone. It’s easier to swallow and way less distracting to literally not give him a motivation. It doesn’t matter that it isn’t as deep of a show or narrative, each aspect that you mentioned is presented and has been successful because it has been explained in such a way that it makes sense. Those worked as plot points because they were interesting ways to add elements in or to explain how/why something was happening. The fact that his backstory is neither a joke, nor does it makes sense is just stupid. It’s not only nonsensical as a backstory but it’s the laziest way to make him want to kill Goku specifically so that Goku can be the hero. And the thing is, you’re right, it doesn’t have to be deep or meaningful. But it shouldn’t be nonsense. The 2 solutions I provided weren’t deep or thematic either. They just made sense. That’s all I really would have wanted.

[@pj_spirit]

igor caique Ok first of all, I did watch the movie myself, multiple times, one of which was specifically to find out what his character actually entailed once I started questioning why Broly was so fixated on Goku. Second of all, I had my opinions on Broly before TFS made their parody so maybe don’t make assumptions about where I got my information from. Third of all, no, I’m not saying he went off as a teenager or blow up South Galaxy because of the word Kakarot. But Goku is the reason he goes off and breaks free of Paragus’ control on New Vegeta and he was specifically after Goku, though he did fight everyone else. Broly is never once before or after even implied to be able to sense power anyway, something that was alien to literally millions, if not billions of people out in space. He should have started losing it the second Goku got on the planet if that was the case. He only starts getting rowdy once he sees Goku in that hallway, which was a scene not in the TFS rendition by the way. In the TFS rendition he got mad from hearing the name, not seeing his face before calming down. The control device isn’t even in that parody and yet I made reference to it. Almost like I watched the damn movie before. And lastly, when the hell did I ever say that King Vegeta shouldn’t have stabbed him and left him for dead? When did I say he should have had someone else do it? When did I say it was beneath him as the king? Don’t put words in my mouth. I have literally no problem with that being part of the story. I do however have a problem with it being inconsequential to Broly himself. It matters to Paragus and no one else. But I will admit that I didn’t remember Paragus going on about destiny and saiyan instincts, that he just assumes mind you. I just don’t remember that. Thanks for bringing that to my attention but how about you don’t be a condescending asshole about it? I haven’t gone back to watch the story again in a while because I didn’t like Broly. Why the hell would I? So get off your high horse and don’t make baseless accusations about people and put words in their mouths.

[@RealHumanBeing276]

I like the original Broly movie but my biggest problem with it (besides Broly's dumb motivation) is that you can remove the entire first half of the movie and it would not make any difference, in fact, you can remove every character that is not a Saiyan from the movie and it would actually be better, Roshi is one of my favorite characters of Dragon Ball, but his comedy in this movie is very out of place, the best example of this is the moment where Goku and Broly meet for the first time and it seems that Broly is about to lose control and Paragus struggles to control him, that was supposed to be a serious moment, but in the middle of the scene a drunk Roshi shows up complaining to Paragus that there are no restrooms in the planet and he wants to go away, another example if the very beggining where Paragus meets Vegeta and invites him to his new Planet Vegeta, that also should be a serious moment but while that's happening Krillin is singing some song in the background that adds absolutely nothing to the scene, it's not funny, just distracting and kinda annoying, and if you think about it, it's very possible that Broly's motivation on its own was also another bad joke, I mean, a baby crying next to him when he was a baby? How could anyone take that seriously, but even with that I still love this movie for its battles, and the moment Broly transforms for the first time is absolutely incredible.

[@12227UserName]

You need to learn how to use periods, bud. Otherwise it looks like one long winded sentence

[@edppoopsock168]

i theorized that he doesnt really hate goku for crying specifically, its just that he's the closest to his dark past so whenever he sees goku, it triggers ptsd....thats what i take from that

[@allanxgr]

Thanks to you I decided to rewatch all the movies of DBZ On Christmas

[@JamieSnowdenYT]

Love your stuff. Just wanted to point something out, though. While sure, it might not make sense that Garlic Jr.'s minions took Gohan instead of just his hat, that does not make it a "plot hole" as you stated. Is it odd that the characters made the decision to take Gohan + his hat instead of just his hat? Sure. Is it a plothole? No, not at all.

[@yologenerations9136]

9:00 LSSJ Broly speedrun

[@jonathanalexander1717]

Great work as always! Super curious to hear your feelings on Bio-Broly next. Also, your assessment that these all would work better as episodes is on the nose. Ever pre-BOG doesn't feel very cinematic or worhty of a film length.

[@FluffBat]

Loving the Hot Topic Totally Not Mark!

[@daimonhampton]

I want to know know what he thinks of Lord Slug, and Coolers return

[@JKamron-1]

Can it really be called a hot take when its an opinion is grounded in sound logic?

[@WusigiDr1]

JKamron-1 nostalgia is a strong thing my friend

[@mhead1117]

Yes

[@ningen7736]

His logic isn’t all that good for the first movie.

[@ilovecairns5181]

No

[@ilovecairns5181]

Ningen no

[@darknesslight3100]

I absolutely LOVE the animation style of Dead Zone and The Worlds Strongest. Always been my favorite.

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

Man TFS' adaptation of DeadZone has made it sooo much better. Honestly one of my favourite TFS movies/special episodes.

[@AntonioRodriguez-fh1ll]

Honestly I like these movies because I just view them as little “what-if?” Side stories where things don’t always have to make sense. I don’t hold them to the same standards I would the actual show, I just view these as nice little side things for you to watch and enjoy, not really full fledged films. I don’t judge them as critically as I would the show.

[@iceygamingrulez]

Can we get a discord?

[@khoypemberton2369]

The funny part about the dead zone movie is that tfs even joked about the problems of the movie

[@bbabamzel8238]

I'm honestly so surprised History of Trunks doesn't ever seem to come up in the comments here or on twitter, at least from what I've seen. I always assumed it was one of the more popular ones, considering it's Future Trunks. It gives his SS transformation depth, and shows us the backstory that he just fucckin says in the anime.

[@Spectrum0122]

Cuz it's not a movie it's a TV special

[@denisn8336]

@10:12 ok mark thats where i heavily disagree with you there broly had a TON of lines in that film even way more than new broly

[@LaddiLo]

Lmfao!! The walking dead😂😂

[@MrGiegon]

The soundtrack from Broly is just awe-inspiring. It fits every scene perfectly and gives the movie an edge over all the other dbz movies, imo.

[@UncleScoot]

Love your vids man

[@squishy1706]

Totally not Mark should definitely compare the movies with the abridged just as he did the main series now he has seen them all

[@moisescorral8297]

Chrono Tapion! 😂😂😂

[@mikep7882]

Running out with a person wearing the shirt you wanted. Hahahaha man that caught me off guard

[@edwardovereem5335]

Nice to hear someone else who actually doesn't like Broly. I never much liked the dbz movies, but I thought path to power was pretty mind-blowing. Love your videos. Look forward to more movie reviews. Please do Return of Cooler!