Not a good day for Ford Super Duty Aluminum.

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[@BigTruckBigRV]

Here is a local example of how well Aluminum can work in the event of a major accident. www.kristv.com/story/34546390/wet-roads-cause-major-accident-on-spid Story: Soggy roads made the morning commute a hazardous one: One truck driver headed east on South Padre Island Drive near Greenwood skidded out on the wet road and slammed into the concrete median just before 8 a.m. The force of the impact sent the truck flying over the median and onto the opposite lane of traffic where it was t-boned by a Suburban headed west on South Padre Island Drive.

[@ethicalreviews2563]

Big Truck Big RV WoW look what I found. An old truck VS a semi. This truck looks better than your link. And the driver sustained minor injury. smokeybarn.com/traffic-alert-semi-vs-pickup-crash-slows-i-65-south/

[@BigTruckBigRV]

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[@BigTruckBigRV]

ETHICAL REVIEWS: seriously dude, there are. So many variables with accidents: www.google.com/search?safe=off&client=ms-android-sprint-us&biw=360&bih=298&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=gACvWqP1NofazwLQ6bbwBg&q=semi+hits+chevy+pickup&oq=semi+hits+chevy+pickup&gs_l=mobile-gws-img.3...6300.6879..7329...0....224.587.1j2j1..........1..mobile-gws-wiz-img.jOcglc2QS4w%3D

[@ethicalreviews2563]

Big Truck Big RV The thickness and massive weight difference between the aluminum in a flatbed in a semi, and pick up truck makes it ridiculously different. Even you know this.

[@ethicalreviews2563]

Big Truck Big RV A semi than can easily weight 80k pounds at high speed can crush anything including an aluminum ford truck like a tin can. The Speed in the semi, is a huge, huge factor on how severe the pick up truck is crushed.

[@roydavis2242]

Manufacturers design vehicles to collapse in major accidents for a reason. This is to help dispensate the energy (force) away from any occupants. They consider saving someone's life is better than saving the vehicle.

[@ramtrucks721]

Roy Davis They only care about lawsuits idiot.... Especially Furd

[@wfijvddjjklngfdgh1747]

I’d rather my vehicle be safe

[@hosea1320]

RAM TRUCKS @ You have proven that Ram owners are very low IQ.

[@jabroni6199]

That safety mechanism has nothing to do with the thin sheet metal used on the outer body, except for the hood so it doesn’t intrude into the cabin and decapitate you. Crumple zones are integrated into the frame of the vehicle, and in most cars that don’t have a traditional frame, it’s integrated into the unibody structure.

[@dmcnamara9859]

For starters, Aluminum does not come close to steel in Tensile strength....plus aluminum loses its rated tensile strength (even aircraft rated aluminum sheets/extrusions) over time and usage. Say grandma (that weighs 140lbs) and uses a 250 lb aluminum ladder for garden work,etc.....that ladder will eventually fail working it way below its Rating in time. The only reason Ford switched over to Aluminum on the F-Series, Alan Mulally took care of his contacts-friends at Alcoa... after leaving Boeing. Although the Aluminum F-Series is lighter compared to the previous stamped-steel F-Series...the trucks overall are still heavier than the competition, because in automotive applications you have to majorly add the weight of extra (sheets/thickness) aluminum to try to match mild-steel and high tensile steel qualities. The cab of passenger car/pickup should not tear Period! Look at the previous Generation of F-150 Series...great crash-test/low-frequency scores....the cabs did not rip apart at the rivet-glue seams like the current F-Series. That Super-Duty did not take that big of hit (speed-wise) to cause all that damage....its the flaw of all aluminum. If Ford had done the most sound thing, utilizing all High-Tensile steel....weight would have still gone down dramatically and not have any of the drawbacks of aluminum.High-Tensile Steel (the good stuff) is far more expensive (wholesale-wise) than the aluminum that Ford and many manufactures use in their body-shells and other components.

[@earlhamil731]

The owner needs to total it by arguing with the insurer. $23k repair and a $10k write down its toast. Imagine trading it with this on the CARFAX

[@israelmondragon6195]

“That’s a lot of damage” Flex tape. 😂

[@BassCage]

Israel Mondragón yes flex tape lol

[@VlauableFather]

Israel Mondragón now that’s a lot of damage. Fix it with flex seal. Call Jon tron

[@jessstuart7495]

Nothing a little bondo can't fix!

[@ropetrick6289]

I was wondering how the aluminum would fair in a accident. Thank you for showing us. Keep up the great videos.

[@rickd8979]

Still the best truck-oriented channel on YT. And for moment there I almost thought that that was your truck man.. Keep up the great work 👍✌

[@markovwms]

They should've definitely totalled this out. I would not want this truck back

[@dthomas2047]

That was a fantastic segment! It's great you have connections with all the shops and service groups to get this video detail for your viewers. That was a really insightful "after the crash" documentary to provide a view into the performance of the aluminum body. Ugh, what an unfortunate accident for the owner. Thanks for capturing that detail and the body shop agents perspective on repair costs vs. a steel frame. Very informative.

[@TexasScout]

A little rubbing compound and it’ll buff right out.

[@bryanmartinez6600]

TexasScout Noneofyourbusiness just some flextape :D

[@jameshoney8088]

here i am opening this in a new tab a few days ago and just watching today! I thought it was YOUR truck for days man! Glad you and youre truck are ok!!!

[@blackcherryfj4x4mt17]

Big Truck Big RV, I Just wanted to say thank you for all of the Truck content, they are very helpful and fun to watch. you're the best KZbinr Keep up the good work.

[@sandman6238]

07FJTRDSE 07FJTRDSE Thanks u said it so I don't have to type !

[@arctictruck10]

I would not want that truck back

[@JohnDiMartino]

A Han I’m Actually surprised there fixing it I can see an airbag blown in the pillar , the right thing to do is give the insured the money to replace the truck ... even if it’s fixed right there will be long term issues from the repair to deal with , they would get decent money for it at auction...and someone would likely fix it but the insured deserves a truck that wasn’t involved in a major accident .

[@ImHatchet]

I wouldnt want that truck to begin with

[@cjeam9199]

If the vehicle could be sold at auction and be road legal then the original owner should be perfectly happy driving it.

[@Lancaster604]

There's gonna be a rattling sound coming from somewhere forever.

[@camarokurt]

Exactly. And if the insurance company does not do the right thing, I'd sell the truck for whatever I could get, pay it off, nd buy another truck that had not been wrecked.

[@leonard7475]

Hi BTBRV. Thanks for another great video! I'm curious as to the exact thickness of those two pieces of aluminum. Could you please measure them with your digital caliper and let me know. Thanks.

[@josephcirelli9642]

That’s gotta hurt! To spend the amount of money for truck & then to sustain that amount of damage would make me cry! Wondering how much intrusion into the passenger rear door there was? These newer trucks are made with safety in mind & this demonstrates the force they can take. Thank you for this awesome & insightful video!

[@davidhillbrand2302]

The concerning part of this is how the structural part of the rear door C pillar tore and ripped. This is the second video I have seen where the structural part of the cab has ripped and torn which = failure. Looks like a very expensive repair - guessing the repairs will go beyond $23K. Great video - thanks for showing a real world condition.

[@cjeam9199]

David Hillbrand I don’t think the pillar will be designed (or need) to resist shear forces through the pillar. The c pillar is mostly designed to hold the roof up and resist lateral intrusion into the passenger compartment in conjunction with the door. It looks like it did that fine, and this accident didn’t threaten the passengers.

[@stubs1227]

My son's f 150 was t boned at low speed the other day at low speed. Even though both passenger side doors Will have to be replaced I was impressed how it took the impact. The car that hit him was totalled out it ripped the front of the car off.

[@dennisb5713]

I thoroughly enjoy all of your videos and always learn something new that I can use.

[@tyrrellroach8122]

I’m sorry steel does not tear like that unless you crease it first. And the player test did not look like it faired any better even though it is substantially thicker. My real concern is the tearing looked like the door was completely ripped off and the structure of the door fram was completely compromised. Yes the steel would have crumpled but I have to believe having crumpled metal in place has to be better than the metal just pealing away

[@thedestroyer3262]

I'm surprised the insurance company didn't just total the truck.

[@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS]

why...the truck is worth 60 grand

[@tylerboyer7824]

Thats what i was thinking. Usually insurance companies usually total vehicles as soon as the airbags deploy.

[@booya6437]

F-150 KING OF TRUCKS Not anymore, that truck most likely sustained damage beyond what we’re seeing on camera. That truck is toast

[@RDLouks]

Although $23,000 seems like a lot of money to put into a repair, it is such a new truck, diesel equipped, and upper trim level I would estimate it to be at least a $70,000+ dollar truck. A 2017 still has a $47,000 to $51,000 trade value.

[@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS]

guess you didn't hear that the estimated damage was 20 grand and no right off was not even considered ..they fix a lot of vehicles with high damage unless the frame is bent a lot ...

[@DevotedDiesel]

Peterbilt has been using aluminum panels for years you should look at them to compare against fords and to look towards durability overtime

[@RayT70]

Thumbs up. Surprised the insurance didn't total it out.

[@JohnDiMartino]

My truck is Ruby Red , hope that body shop is good because that paint color isn’t going to be easy to lay down and color match it looks different in different lighting .... when it’s bright out it looks bright red when it’s overcast it almost looks maroon ...

[@reno145]

Relax. My old man's a television repairman with this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.

[@4literfandaniel373]

reno145 man spicoli, you cant fix this car! I can fix it.’looks at totaled car. “I can fix it”. Haha

[@Fireship1]

reno145 just leave it at school and make everyone think Lincoln trashed it!

[@mr.mckinnon5680]

That's a $70,000 truck. The insurance company is not going to Total it out for less than one-third the value.

[@sethminskey]

Best movie EVER!!!! Love the reference

[@shawnjarman9860]

Omniscient Presence $70,000? Not where I live! f150 FX4 maybe $50k

[@EvilDeadFan11]

For a pretty good comparison, I say these are tough and do the job.. but look at older Subarus with Aluminum fenders. When I was shopping for a 2004 Subaru Forester, it was pretty common to see dents in the fenders because owners simply didn't realize, and sat on it or let something impact against it, denting it. Hell an uncle helped with my own DIY brake job. He's a much smaller guy than myself but had something to prove so he leaned on a fender and put serious weight onto a breaker bar to break a bolt loose. Once he let off we realized the fender moved at least 5 inches in on a joint.. we were able to pull it back out by hand. Of course then that same vehicle was totalled when I was rear ended on the highway... but I walked away without injury. I was so impressed I went and purchased another.

[@klc317]

Geez...that hurts! We just picked up a new Edge Titanium in that ruby red color.....it is a very attractive color.

[@Thatbogiggle]

@BigTruckBigRv. Can you make a video on the new chevy medium duty trucks

[@BigTruckBigRV]

plan on it sir. thanks!

[@dracodrake45]

I was trying to get a 250 with similar damage with a clean title but I was planning on swapped for an undamaged cab

[@jmj267]

What do you think the aluminum tariff is going to do with the truck companies

[@boson285]

The ripping of the aluminum looks to be about the same amount of effort it takes to open a new product encased in that sealed plastic packing.

[@cjeam9199]

boson285 I’ve regularly found tearing sheet metal way easier than getting into heat-sealed plastic packaging.

[@repairvehicle]

Do they actually replace entire bed or just damaged side panel on the bed?

[@Collin_Calaway]

I would be fighting to get that truck replaced if it were mine. My dad had a 2015 f250 tboned in December of 2015. The driver side b-pillar was pushed in 4”. The repair came out to 23k. The insurance company valued the truck higher than what the dealership would trade it un wrecked.

[@cjeam9199]

Collin Calaway That does seem bad. In this example it doesn’t look like the cab has been deformed at all, and if it hasn’t then I wouldn’t really have any concerns.

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

Playing games with my heart as I stare at thumbnail to look for dually fender

[@I5ZQ8]

Jeezzzz....hope everyone is alright!! the guy beating it with the pliers makes it look like it an take hail damage a lot better.

[@complexity2749]

Even with major accidents these trucks are still worth a good amount. My dad had a 2014 f250 lariat and in 2015 we were driving home and a Colorado was in the turning lane and it just cut straight in front of us and we hit it going about 40 mph. We didn’t have any brush guard or anything so we just straight up hit the right side of the Colorado. The Colorado was completely totaled and our truck was fine except it had some damage to the front of course. Long story short it was an accident that in total needed lots of repairs and it still had a nice value. Sold it to a ford dealer for 52k! Then we got a 15 king ranch

[@stacyreid5077]

I wonder what a steel truck hit the same way would be like compared to this one. And I'm surprised that ins didn't total it when it's $23k for repair I think I'd ask for a new one anyway due to the rearmed was shifted which might mean frame got bent some where

[@mikekoksmal5053]

can you show an after video when they are done with the truck if possible

[@BigTruckBigRV]

I'll try

[@michaelscott7128]

I have had a few landrover defenders, the panels are aluminium they tend to crease and dent. They are quiet easily dented. Never saw one rip like that. You do get electrolytic corrosion were steel or other metal comes in contact with aluminium, it can actual make nice holes, but i,m sure ford learnt from the defender as they owned the company for a while, i,m sure it's improved vastly

[@TheBlacksmithCrew]

Wow, that’s some nasty damage! Keep making videos man! We are looking for a tow rig for the Jeep and having such a hard time figuring out which HD to go with. We’re usually a GM family but some of your videos have me reconsidering Ram and Ford.

[@ruckusbird8832]

How much harder/expensive to repair those little dings with the wrench than steel? Melt aluminum into it sand and paint?

[@erikturner8687]

The panels will be glued and riveted on. I’ve done one already, actually, a fairly straight forward repair.

[@street_truck_5.762]

So what would happen if you got a small tear on your bed of a new alumiduty? Would you have to replace the whole bed or can it be fixed?

[@BigTruckBigRV]

Same as a Semi truck, can be repaired

[@jameshenry3530]

I assume the frame is not bent. The truck would definitely be totaled if so.

[@jpatt973]

Thanks for the video as usual ! hopefully nobody was hurt in that accident!! I do body repairs on many vehicles that have Steel and I don't see any steel ever tear like that aluminum does even the Toyota Yaris which are built with the thinnest steel I've seen on anything! It's hard for me to believe that it's cheaper to do the aluminum repair at this point then it is for steel and the reason I believe that is the equipment to deal with the aluminum is far more expensive eventually overtime that will even out I'm sure!

[@fatboyshenanigans6862]

Hey what would recommend buying a new rv trailer or a used one

[@alcajun619]

You can dress it up anyway you want but the tears In those panels are not normally seen in steel body truck accidents. Door pillars should bend not tear. What I see there convinces me that the standards used to rate crash worthiness need to be reviewed.

[@whenibecamethesun..8759]

MnM Films it's all about the Benjamin's

[@rvninnorthcarolina3377]

The structure is a combination of steel and aluminum. The inside of the pillars are steel and the skin is aluminum but is mostly for show. Same premise as a NASCAR. The cage is the structure and the "body" is for show. We are looking at the shell and not the structure.

[@jameslcoble248]

I've always been curious on that. That is impressive. That is only reason I was afraid of aluminum bodies. I feel safer now though which helps alot. Wouldn't mind finding a good used one.

[@09turbodiesel]

Thanks for this video. You answer some questions I had.

[@cooldog60]

I worked at the stamping plant where the body panels are made. The entire truck body cost about $700 to make.

[@jimcole5359]

You specifically mention the 2016 trucks when you are talking steel, but my 2016 F-150 is made mostly of aluminum. Which 2016 trucks still used steel?

[@BigTruckBigRV]

Super Duty trucks still used steel in 2016

[@baloneyjusticecheezedog]

I'm actually really impressed by this... the damage to this truck is obvious severe and I'm concerned the owner of truck was injured in this accident.. but all said, I much rather be in this truck, then a truck from 1975 if it comes time to run into brick wall. Its vary impressive any truck survived this to be repaired and made roadworthy. You should do a fallow up video showing how the repair was done, and where if any damage is visible from the repair. That would be interesting to me, even as a Chevy guy. Also, the Aluminum body panels don't bug me one bit. I think its vary cool they developed these incredibly strong structures out of aluminum that are as good as steel. The fact they tear instead of crumple is a interesting byproduct of there design. If Chevy or dodge was to build there trucks completely out of aluminum I would love it. It means I would get a truck that would not rust in a Wisconsin winter... They are doing things now with the doors and hoods that are all aluminum... but that will not be as good for as a all aluminum body frame. What I hate though is ford's pricing method on replacement parts. When it comes time for me to spend money on a truck.. I will be lucky if I can raise over 5000 dollars on a truck. Truck so old they only cost 5000 dollars are going to need lots of repairs... and those costs are huge if you have buy from ford. Now, If i want a genuine ford drive shaft yoke, I have to buy the enter driveshaft, not a a 120 dollar yoke... the 1200 dollar assemble. If I break the pump on a drop down step rails.. I don't buy from ford a 200 dollar pump... I have to buy the entire 1800 dollar assemble. Parts need to be cheap, but ford sells assemblies. The trucks might be good... but the repair of a ford product can quickly get too rich for my blood. Chevy, dodge, Toyota, and Nissan is much cheaper since they actually break down there assemblies into individual parts for most things. If its not rusted out by the time I can afford it, that is how you know I want it.

[@killahjeep]

wonder if a exterior rhinolining would do any good here... I mean any impact will crumple the panel.. but something is better than nothing.

[@willboyd4607]

Had 2 of these Ford aluminum trucks. Neither could be repaired after moderate damage. First one had $15,000 damage, second one $30,000. Both considered totaled by the insurance company but at least since the 2nd accident was in Florida, the insurer had to settle for retail value $60k.

[@devodar2579]

I like how Jose the painter is the expert for body parts, etc.to make your point for you.

[@Koshunae]

I feel like it would've been cheaper to just replace the cab and bed. However with the axle shoved back, I'm surprised that the frame didn't get damaged or bend at some point.

[@esmoglo]

Show us the truck when it's all finished like the before and after effect

[@bearatts]

Damn! At first I thought you wrecked your f450! I was starting to get sad for you. Keep up the great videos!

[@JamesCooperCrackers2Caviar]

Great content. While the aluminum work is interesting, my concern if it's my truck is all the suspension damage. I'm not sure that truck will ever be true again. Great video.

[@patmason7276]

Good thing with it tearing free doesn't mess up panels behind the damage like steel where it buckles the one around it.

[@CTmoog]

Wow! Seems like a total loss?

[@sfbfriend]

A whole knew skill set for the automotive industry. How does bondo adhere to aluminum? Also, do you or anyone else know how Ford is dealing with corrosion resistance? I have worked in the aerospace industry for over 30 years and I am aware of how they do it, i.e. anodizing and sealants used in faying surfaces. Also, corrosion via electrolysis? Good video, Im impressed with the panel gauge. That is tough stuff, just a bit brittle. What are your thoughts on GM using plastic in their beds? Will Ford come out with a commercial dropping a load of brick from 4 feet? I always thought that was a cheap shot video, and now they are headed the same direction. Composite are pretty tough! The company I worked for had designed a cooling fan in one of the engine nacelle's on the V-22 Osprey, it was about a 2' diameter engine driven fan. Initially it was being designed to use Peak or Peek for the impeller, which is a composite material. Worked great until it was put in stall mode, impeller completely disintegrated. Point is composite are tough, but like you just showed with the aluminum, it can be brittle. Interesting to see where automotive industry is going, like it or not its a changing industry.

[@manowar5516]

How could the claims adjuster take one look at the C-pillar and not total that truck. Once the structural integrity of the cage has been compromised on new aluminium AND steel cab vehicles, they should be automatically written off. And that's not even mentioning drivetrain damage or popped airbags. I hope that owner ultimately ends up in a new truck. Especially if they tow and haul with it on a normal basis.

[@LRSS2455]

The other guy was the service writer, not the claims adjuster. But the service writer can write the estimate so high that the adjuster will have to make the determination to total the truck.

[@manowar5516]

LuckyRosco I understand their positions, however one has to have some form of commonsense over the other...Wait a minute, this is the insurance industry. Wtf am I talking about.😅

[@hochhaul]

@@manowar5516 I agree. There's a very good chance that the cab does not have the same safety factor in a rollover or side impact as it did originally.

[@amosikner1297]

Judging by the damage.... must have brushed the bushes at the end of the driveway... too bad

[@ecoboostrules9795]

Amos Ikner. Loser

[@jacobd373]

Lol nice

[@WilliamStewart1]

ecoboost rules You should watch that salt, bad for the heart!

[@ecoboostrules9795]

William Stewart. No salt just fact.

[@FordFan01]

Amos Ikner Lmao

[@SimRacingVeteran]

This truck will never be the same again.

[@_diesel_bandit_4409]

Oh damn thank God I thought it was your truck man! Its still very unfortunate, I hope everyone involved is alright! 🙏💯

[@charredskeleton]

I have no doubts to the strength of the panels. My doubts hinge on ford getting paint to stick to aluminum. The hood on the 05+ mustangs is aluminum and they're known to peel. Infact most I've seen are peeling or have been repainted or both.

[@rosekransconst.2495]

Madonna in the back ground is awesome best music you’ve had yet!

[@robertdefrancesco949]

Smooth 450 how about The Rolling Stones between a rock and a hard place. That is what the owner is feeling right now!

[@qcn_cummins4146]

I'm surprised that wasn't totaled especially with the suspension damage.

[@i.m.grimripperroo4575]

Found On Road Defective...How Rare!

[@verajavi12]

Mr tgh117 the labor rates I stated of $120 are for walk in rates of steel with aluminum being more.Autobody repair industry is underpaid to employees due to illegal immigration here in N Cali,but that's another subject!!

[@green15838]

Cost to fix aluminum per steel?

[@RealButcher]

Are these damages the same as in airplanes? Like when an airplane hits something with it's wing, does it look like this? Can we learn from this?

[@RealButcher]

Ron Krzaczyk I really wonder: Here I have something to think about....quote From what I remember from my overhaul days the MD88 skin is between .040" and .080" in general That's 1.0 - 2.0mm, by the way  f100 skin is 1.0 - 1.4mm. b747 skin is 1.8 - 2.2mm. a320 skin is about 1.1mm. unquote

[@6.4hemidriver44]

I wonder how well the aluminum body's are going to hold up against road salt. Salt and aluminum don't play well together.

[@dublininnis9695]

Dang... sorry to hear my ex-wife leaned against that truck. Good to know that she is half a country away.

[@NordicNevs]

Hate to see this no matter the manufacturer. Hope they recover just fine. I’m glad they were in a truck. This changes my mind about aluminum. Slowing down the impact is vital in an accident and you can tell with the ripping and compression it did just that.

[@andrewmendoza1578]

There’s already multiple videos of the aluminum body being more expensive to repair /:

[@reviewscentralchannel4162]

I got hit by a trash truck in my 2011 Chevy 2500 it had similar damage with no tears they had to put a new bed on the repairs were around 20-23k so it’s about the same

[@MrPland1992]

I've done this exact same job on a 2010 duramax. $15,000. Bedside, both doors, fender, same cab corner, axle shifted, hood and bumper. Literally the exact same, tore the truck down to nothing. I've got pics if you're interested in a comparison.

[@rayminthecat]

Aboveground pools the same! Steel or aluminum its still a baggie in a beer can.

[@jasonwang5829]

what trim level

[@timcheek5134]

What does it matter if it was steel damage is damage

[@julzmax956]

I can't tell you how many f-150 and f-250 I've seen with the bed torn up from the bumper hitting the corner of the bed after they hit something. It's that RGV life.

[@cesarpalmos8235]

If you were replacing the whole bed..you should've hit the actuall bed to see if chevy is right about their "real people" commercial.. though that was an f150..i don't know if the 150 has less thickness or not, either way..i still think that's way better than hitting the same pliers with a traditional steel bed..

[@TheSoloAsylum]

We can fix it. My dad's a tv repair man, he's got an ultimate set of tools.

[@jamesbradford7817]

Fast times at Ridgemont high Mr. Spickoli

[@TheSoloAsylum]

@@jamesbradford7817 winner winner chicken dinner.

[@guyazbell8169]

23k to repair at furd about 3k if you go to yunkjard and woik on it ursef but if you like sending the shop managers or owners kids through collage and whut knot then by all means pay da main.

[@jpatt973]

I know you're down in Texas and this probably doesn't matter to you much in the southern states but I'm curious if you could look into doing a video on oiling vehicles to prevent corrosion in particular there's a company called New Hampshire oil?

[@BenKempa]

why would he oil a vehicle? All it would do is make a huge mess for nothing, not to mention he probably wouldn't even be able to find a shop to do it in texas.

[@jpatt973]

Ben Kempa true! but in the Northeast ( one part of the rust belt ) it matters and makes a big difference and rust and corrosion is discussed from time to time.thought I'd ask worst he can say is no !

[@BenKempa]

J Patt I live in Western New York. Rust is a losing battle lol

[@jpatt973]

Ben Kempa I understand what you're saying and totally agree it is difficult but in the last two years I have been working with oil undercoating and I'm quite impressed as long as you do it once a year it stops rust completely but it is a little messy however it's worth the mess where things no longer rust Rot out and you don't have nuts and bolts that are seized and breaking something to look into.

[@tommytruth7595]

I knew a guy who put rustproofing on the outside of his truck. Not pretty but no rust either.

[@onegoodturngetsmostofthebl7499]

Ford may wish to consider transitioning to high impact plastic panels going forward to replace their military beer can aluminum materials. If I was the owner, I request the insurance company to write it off. No one will be interested in purchasing this truck after it is repaired.

[@bigbossman5969]

One Good Turn Gets Most Of The Blanket .that truck will never b right again. and it won't drive rt anymore either. u can't tell by looking at the video how fast the other vehicle eas going that was probably at 10mph

[@John3_16Q]

It has the best crash test rating thicker more resistant panels no rust and lighter. All the other gay truck brands will go aluminum too bud and its already begun with the gayest of all GM😂

[@Spahi77]

Normally they would total the truck, but with the price of trucks hitting 60 and $70,000 ...$25,000 or $30,000 damage would not total these trucks.... Older trucks when prices were more quote-unquote normal this would have totalled

[@ecoboostrules9795]

One Good Turn Gets Most Of The Blanket. Omg get a life. That truck took it better than any other truck would have. The aluminum is way stronger. Been proven over and over again. Easily fixed with no issues will never know it was hit. Wanna see something funny watch crash tests with gm ford and ram. Now that's a reality check.

[@hosea1320]

One Good Turn Gets Most Of The Blanket @ dude, are you running high impact plastic on that helmet that you wear all day to protect what brain matter you have left.

[@OpenAirAdventure]

Preference- The selecting of someone or something over another or others. The state of being preferred. Bias- An inclination, especially one that inhibits impartial judgment. An unfair act or policy stemming from prejudice. I think people are confusing preference for bias, or they are taking preference as an excuse to accuse you of bias.

[@BigTruckBigRV]

Best statement yet. Thanks

[@matfloor6974]

I know the aluminum is pretty tough on these trucks but what they aren't telling you is how much it will cost you in the long run. Repairing these panels is way more expensive than steel which translate to you paying more in insurance premiums as long as you have it.

[@juliawilliams2097]

Ford made a great looking body style in the late 70s the best i think is 1979 i had a 79 4×4 6 foot bed man they are good looking trucks

[@John-hw3ds]

That sucks for the owner. Hopefully he can get a depreciated value claim, then just trade it in. I have had one experience with a very damaged car that was repaired, and it was never right again. I have known a few friends who had cars and trucks heavily damaged that were repaired and they had the same issues I did. Squeaks, rattles, chipping paint after only a short time, door gaps way off, cant get tires to balance...etc. Now, im sure there are numerous stories of people getting a great repaired vehicle back, but I was not one of those.

[@D3thM3tal]

Yup - if that happened to me it would be getting repaired and sold/traded in for a new one.

[@MrRGiller]

John G We had our van get side swiped by a driver who outran a stop sign. The van should have been totalled in my opinion and even after the repair, it was never the same.

[@kabswiss]

Check your insurance policy. Mine specifically excludes diminished value. I agree that I wouldn't want it back after that.

[@MrRGiller]

Wfijvddjj Klngfdgh Who are you referring to exactly?

[@dannyrbailey]

John G I wonder if a load fell from the trailer of a flatbed semi this looks hella bad I’d think it would be totaled guess not

[@watajob]

I love my Ram but I think in the long run, aluminum is the way to go especially in the "rust belt".

[@GoldenGun-Florida]

How many times are you going to tell us that it was hit on the side?

[@hellhellya1]

Why do they always test hitting the truck in the same spot?

[@kevinc9006]

That will buff out no problem

[@tigerseye73]

This Ford should be TOTALED. I would not want it back.

[@Pawzie]

Even if aluminum is more expensive to repair, if they replace the entire panel it is much easier to recycle that aluminum panel if taken back and melted down again unlike steel. The amount of aluminum that is saved when recycling is far greater than Steel when recycled

[@k.r.v.4219]

I will add that after hearing the axle was shifted back by extreme force. I would say there has been incredible drivetrain shock involved. Enough for me to not trust this truck for a long period.

[@camron1660]

Happy day

[@ivanmolina31]

I have seen an older dodge bed rip just like this but it was just behind the wheel not sure what hit it but at least a 1 foot rip in the steal

[@wassman27]

It actually doesn't look all that bad, if repaired properly that truck will drive like new. I see lots of comments like "that truck will never drive the same" or " 20K should have been a total loss". In my experience vehicles that don't drive the "same" after it has been repaired is due to the one whom performed the repairs didn't provide a quality repair. If the vehicle is brought back into specifications and the parts are attached according to the manufactures standards/procedures the vehicle will drive as it did before, but since most repairs get paid by the job they short cut the repair, skip or don't even reference these procedures and specifications because it takes longer to repair it right. I have found to ensure your vehicle is getting a quality repair that is in accordance with the procedures and specifications let the shop know before they start repairs that you will be taking your vehicle in for a post-repair inspection by a third party inspector, even if you don't have plans for a post-repair inspection. This will force all those involved in repairing your vehicle to adhere to all procedures, specifications, and provide a quality repair. Keep this in mind the insurance companies are only obligated to pay for their share of the repair, they do not determine how the vehicle is to be repaired or by whom. The repairer is obligated to provide the vehicle owner with a quality repair and provide the insurance with a accurate damage assessment to achieve such a repair. It is up to the vehicle owner to select a insurance policy that will adequately cover damages and when a accident occurs select a repairer that will perform repairs to their quality standards.