Not Every Hauling Session Goes to Plan | Star Citizen 4.0 4K Gameplay

[@SebastiaanSwinkels]

If you position the ATLS in a good "in between" spot, you can tap Z to enter free look mode. That way you can mouse to one side to grab a box and then drag it to the other side to where you want to drop it. That saves you a lot of waiting for the ATLS to do it's tippy-taps to pivot and you can actually see around the box too.

[@Farrister]

Oooh interesting idea!

[@kekelapp0r]

Do you know if there's a way to permanently store the ATLS in the hangar? Currently, it always vanishes, so each time I want to unload stuff, I need to store the ship first, claim the ATLS, retrieve it, move it away, and retrieve my ship again. I'm currently salvaging, so talking the ATLS with me is not an option, but I'm always selling at the same spot anyway, so I'd be happy if it just persisted in that hangar until I come back.

[@DarknessReborn50]

@@kekelapp0r Persistence only works on your home hanger. But I usually put my atls there just past the freight elevator's ASOP terminal and it doesnt disappear. You cant put it too close to the pad though or itll despawn. So right next to the terminal has been working for me.

[@BuzzkillZone]

3:54 Open the other ramp and they level out. Make that your new first option. It is faster and easier than the others. That is some tight turning in the hanger.

[@Whoadayson]

Mostly agree unless your in any other location than your hanger - dont want to open the back door for any sneaky buggers

[@notcookie4411]

please keep this series going! I'm looking forward to the next ranks and showcasing their missions

[@Farrister]

OK!

[@DeviousDarth29]

There is a rear view cam on ships, from memory it’s the “,” key

[@Farrister]

Now I gotta try this...

[@valeriansamborski5844]

I do enjoy cargo hauling personally; planning the route, loading and unloading the boxes with the onboard tractor, the atls, or by hand, flying the spaceship, taking in the sights; I find it to be all very relaxing, or alternatively mining; if I want my relaxing interspersed with some "oh shit! this rock is about to blow" moments, salvaging, though, makes my brain melt from boredom. Guess I am not the most consistent person.

[@Farrister]

Different strokes for different folks - I enjoy a bit of salvage!

[@andybenson4877]

I find it very useful to see how other people handle the bugs of SC, whether in game with the org or from someone like you. Thank you for your contribution to my knowledge. (I too bully crates, but the moving around them targeting trick is new to me)

[@Farrister]

Happy to be of service!

[@ThornedLily]

I typically enjoy cargo loading/unloading, but I think my enjoyment depends pretty heavily on the ship I'm dealing with as well as whether I'm doing it with a partner/crew. I always enjoy multiplayer loading and unloading, it just brings a better vibe to the activity. When I'm solo though, ideally I'd like to use an on-board tractor beam but barring that I want to be able to stand in one spot with either a multi-tool or max-lift and be able to hit the entire cargo grid and freight elevator with minimal movement necessary. I think all ships could do with cameras, not just rear-view but also top and bottom cameras, as well as a camera for the docking ports of ships that have them, and if I'm being greedy I'd like a camera in every freight ship's cargo hold though I admit that's more for the immersion/realism/roleplay than for any practical reasons. I have front, rear and side cameras in my very affordable car that's a few years old at this point, and I'm supposed to believe that in a situation where regular folks are flying around in space making a living most manufacturers expect the pilots to place their lives and those of their passengers into a "hopes and dreams" situation in every single top-opening hangar? I don't buy it lol.

[@DubStepTomatoFarmer]

You video and that damn music was so relaxing I fell asleep while watching 😂

[@Farrister]

:D

[@Arcturius01]

You can turn the jerky herky around in those hangars, just takes a little wiggle and shimmy.

[@Farrister]

I enjoyed everything about this sentence

[@thermothrock]

hope to see a starlancer review or cargo run to see sometime soon. Also a actual Mining Vid would interest me. My attemps end in 8 from 10 times in explodes without an noticible reason.

[@Farrister]

I've been trying to hold off on mining video until 4.0.1!

[@Blackcat70_]

Had about 8k left to my name and was kinda freakin out, watched a cargo tutorial and I was off n runnin... pulled about 4 mill the last week. Bought a bunch of ground vehicles, and am trying to figure out what I would work towards, but money is there to be made. What's kinda crazt is just how stable it is sometimes and then it just goes totally bonkers and makes it impossible to play. Still.. quite a time no matter what.

[@TheVexinator]

@20:41 Whew, didn't die in the ATLS. I've had it warp into walls twice, and once it blew up the ship.

[@thormach]

I found my favorite hauler in the Starlancer Max which also does not have a tractor beam.

[@Farrister]

That reminds me, I must get around to reviewing it!

[@NatCr3w]

20:01 I've found that sometimes cargo grids have ghost boxes on them. You have to go around the items that it thinks are there and pick them up from the side.

[@obaniehia]

yeah with the starlancer, that center area will block the grid on the left of right if something is there...

[@Farrister]

Interesting!

[@RSI_Rusty_Venture]

I don't think those are boxes. There's more like an invisible line pretty much in the middle of the freight elevator. When you cross that line the tractor will stick to the box. The line is from left to right (not from the back to the front of the elevator). The reason I don't think they are boxes, is because it goes all the width of the elevator, and the angle and height doesn't matter. As long as you cross that thin line the tractor beam will stick.

[@NatCr3w]

@RSI_Rusty_Venture So I've experimented when it happens both in elevators and cargo holds. When it happened to me, cargo pulled past this would show the cargo snap preview on top of the open space as if another box was there. Letting go, it would snap to this and float in the air as if sitting on another box. Yes, not necessarily ghost boxes, but the grid and tractor beam seem to be retaining old box placements. I had a massive load of drugs from a xeno salvage in Patch City I stored. I went and only pulled out the Weevil eggs to sell, and the crates were floating and behaving as if the SLAM boxes I had sent down with them were still there. I knew this because we unload SLAM first and Eggs second in my crew. The kicker was I loaded the drugs up and had left them in Patch for almost 3 weeks, and it had retained this behavior.

[@Leptospirosi]

21:20 what you can't overcome is when you go to an outpost and all the elevators are broken. Then you have to throw out all the cargo because you can not sell it and fail the mission because "Star Citizen!" 20:45 the Herc Is good as it is, but I think an ATLS should come as a free loan with it: after all, unlike the Cat that comes with a Buccaneer, the herc has nothing for free, unlike many other less expensive ships.

[@Farrister]

Yup, good point! I avoid the outposts completely

[@MrFluffyBottoms1]

i ended up grabbing a zeus cl to try out. I hated it 😂 i couldnt get past how cramped it felt and how narrow the cargo door is.

[@IanMartinAdams]

In the large cargo elevators there seems to be an invisible wall so you can’t always pick up boxes at the back

[@gendo1]

Humbly, the server performance is our biggest opponent at this point. Also, if the mule worked as good as it should, moving cargo up and down ramps would be faster and easier than with tractor beams. My humble opinion after failing five hauling missions in a row over five days.

[@Farrister]

Yup, although it seems that stability is a focus for this year

[@TheVexinator]

I persevered through the bugs and earned ~12M, enough to buy a few ships including a taurus and a vulture (and then used the vulture to buy a prospector but made less than a mil with the prospector - did not have much luck with that game loop, fees too high and poor luck with spawns). I think I've had enough of the hauling loop for a while. Swapped over to the Taurus to run NPC bounties, it's better money, and less mind-numbing... though probably no less buggy in the 4.0 build. The C2/M2/A2 landing gear bug is pretty annoying, I ran into it (and reported it) on the 3.24 line. Despite them marking it as corrected, it wasn't until one of the recent 4.01 PTU patches that it was actually fixed. Will be nice to have that working again in live.

[@kingssman2]

We are needing cargo sleds. We have the CSV-SM that holds 4 scu, but we really need those roll carts we see in cargo centers or rolling around at the Cargo Platform in Orison.

[@Farrister]

Yes please!

[@warufuz4ke]

good sruff! i am wondering where the break even point is compared to stacking the xs direct planetary contracts which you can easily do solo in a ~90 scu ship....the herc + atls already seems worth it to have another hand to speed things up, like the atls dumping from the ship and guy with maxlift clearing the pile onto the elevator...ofc by this you already slipt the payout in half

[@Farrister]

Yup, trying to figure it out myself too!

[@arcadealchemist]

Cargo needs simulated weight and power drain should be required to pick up and snap cargo, they should hover on the surface like pump truck hight not like harry potter leviosa woo in the air It needs work to stack etc should require a over head rig too

[@BizzleMade1]

The C2 doesn't need a tractor beam as it is not a dedicated hauler and it is a transport ship more for vehicles and military assets. Every ship that is capable of hauling doesn't need a tractor beam. Honestly only dedicated cargo haulers should have them which would better define ship roles and classes. Just my opinion.

[@Farrister]

Makes sense as a concept - I was mulling it over too!

[@melsy2]

I don't see how it would hurt to have a tractor Beam in a Herc. I mean the Polaris has one, though limited in it's POV, it's very useful especially getting rid of the time sink of walking back and forth with an ATLS.

[@Farrister]

Yeah, I'm still undecided!

[@Radoxman101]

I've been able to complete about 4 out of 20 hauling missions since 4.0 its broken.

[@Farrister]

Oof :(

[@kobeathris4552]

I was having really good performance, but the last few days have been a little rough. It goes in cycles in guess. I've started doing station trading with a Starlancer, since it doesn't require loading. I'll also grab hauling missions to fill in gaps from stations that only have waste and scrap. Last night I did have several missions that never spawned cargo, so I just went empty.

[@Ayyy_Miki]

Switching to a server where it's night time can help to counter server issues, at least login issues. I've had a drastically less infinite loading screens after switching servers.

[@TheVexinator]

Dunno about the hauling portion, but cargo moving should be faster... i.e. the tractor beam portion. Very tedious right now, and only the ATLS speeds things up (i.e. the max-lift is not faster than the multi-tool, only handles larger boxes and greater distances) but I've noticed that if you use the ATLS to grab a box from off a cargo grid, it moves MUCH slower than if you pick one up off the ground. I'd really like it if they added a detach/attach button to the tractors, so you don't have to struggle to release a box from a grid (as sometimes happens now)

[@snaggletoof1927]

I've heard someone mention that lowering the ramps first before landing helped with that issue. No idea if it works or not.

[@Farrister]

Worth a try!

[@Crivicus]

I used to just chuck it all off the back until I had the bug that causes all the crates to phase through the ship elevator floor and essentially disappear now I move everything one by one to where they need to go making sure they snap to grid. Absolute pain when in the caterpillar to do it though.

[@Farrister]

I can imagine!

[@unokepasaba]

How do you even get cargo missions working on 4.0. Freight elevators never show my contracted cargo.

[@Farrister]

That bit just kinda works for me, guess I'm lucky!

[@Whoadayson]

Im thinking your fighting some good ole invisible remnants of a previous ship? Did you ever figure the ship/ramps not sitting flat? Im only qtr of the way thru video at this point.

[@Farrister]

It's possible! I kinda worked it by lowering both ramps

[@celrahir]

Not every transport ship should have a tractor beam, it keeps every ship interesting and different that way

[@Farrister]

A bit of variety

[@jamesnapier3802]

First, normally one gets killed right at the start by ATLS teleportation. Then, the Hercules bug lets this massive ship dance around in the hangar when its ramps are lowered - appalling.

[@AllGoodDays1]

me just now learning the C2 has afront ramp also lol

[@opyiscool]

woagh

[@Farrister]

Whoa!

[@opyiscool]

@Farrister can I call you freezer please? lmao

[@eccox3891]

what are the advantages from the ATLAS over the big handheld tractor beam?

[@dimitrilax3612]

Longer range, stronger weight carrying, faster placement, and stacking crates. It is even better than the ship built in tractor beam!

[@Farrister]

I like the longer range

[@AIPilot-Boda]

Herc definitely needs some work, can open the front and back ramps to make it better but it still doesn’t sit right

[@SaschaTKL]

Its fixed in 4.01

[@Farrister]

Hopefully fixed soon :)

[@mikezr1000]

The ATLS always tries to kill me in hangers lol

[@kingssman2]

My ATLS is secretly an imposter, biting me in half.

[@terronstang1675]

It is absolutely an imposter, always tries to teleport you into the void.😂

[@Farrister]

Deadly ATLS...

[@raygaming5899]

Its really fun when you watch a video auf star citizen (so basically a commercial) and the commercial break shows a commercial about guess what, exactly... STAR CITIZEN. Its like bitch Im obviously allready hooked on the damn game you dont need to advertise it to me. XD

[@Farrister]

lol I get those all the time too

[@DaKineGuy]

Don't turn the ATLS when you're loading/unloading. Just turn your view to grab and place and you won't have the issue of the crate blocking your view.

[@Farrister]

Good tip!

[@splaff666]

4.0.1 NEEDS TO DROP

[@ryanmorgan1277]

I may have been lucky on mine, but I had a couple contracts worth of cargo loaded in my CL And was just about to leave when a server error happened, killing my game. When I logged back in all the cargo was still there, and my contracts were gone. Sold all the cargo at various places and made about half as much as the contract lol

[@eastmonroe]

Your ATLAS didn't glitch out and start vibrating and sliding across the hangar uncontrollably?

[@Farrister]

Not this time...

[@essentialasa]

The main issue I've had is the cargo not being in inventory for me to pickup.

[@jamieford9391]

The bugs make it just too tedious, and there's only one meta, Baijini To Ryker 6 loads at 50k each, but even that you only want to do once. Will be better when the ground stations work though, I guess.

[@WipeoutFPV]

Need a star citizen Sin counter for each bug and ridiculous game play issue that gets in the way. The ramp not reaching the floor is absolutely comical.

[@oh.Em1ly]

I personally enjoy the raw unedited videos but I know I’m in the minority. 😂

[@Farrister]

They would be very long!

[@corditeshade]

You are probably already aware but if you press full stop you can see behind you. I use that to check the doors have opened.

[@Farrister]

Will give it a go!

[@corditeshade]

@Farrister I realised last night it's not full stop, it's commar! But it does work

[@splaff666]

I dropped off 83 scu from a mission aaand the lift said 1 .....i tried up and downining it but no just 1 ...i then clicked submit :( bad things ! BAD THINGS ... I was member now ...uneligible SAD FACE.

[@Boniushimself]

Another atls use of not using freelook

[@Farrister]

Just read it in comments - interested to give it a try!

[@David-ys4ud]

Loading and unloading is by far the worst part of hauling.

[@RedDwarf1]

To load a C2 Manually in this manner is astoundingly stupid game play, sorry CIG.

[@Farrister]

Takes a while...

[@floppalore]

There was supposed to be an auto loading feature, not sure where that is :/

[@0giwan]

So, why is it the "Aye Tee Ell Aye Ess" and not the Atlas? *stirs the pot* *escapes*

[@Farrister]

Oji san, is that you?

[@silentone11111111]

Turning the game into freight management citizen has ruined the game for me. I want to be flying not organising boxes. Just time sink bs imho.

[@Farrister]

Each to their own

[@kevinm3751]

And you find this fun? Have to say I dont know if I should be impressed or feel sorry for you!

[@UpperKS]

Your be amazed at how much folks enjoy logistics

[@Farrister]

Either works

[@DarknessReborn50]

Fun is subjective. I find cargo hauling very relaxing. Its not like the game forces you to do them. Options are nice.

[@Trikie77]

way to much work for me an i have the Ironglad if this is how it going to be i am not going to be a Cargo houler for shure they need auto load an offloading also for missions