Turin DF83V full review... it's really good!

The Turin DF83v coffee grinder packs a lot of great features into a small, but dense package!
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[@coffeenerdaaron]

I hope you enjoy my thoughts on the new Turin DF83v! It's a great grinder and I've truly been enjoying it, let me know what you think!!

[@wheelerlight8541]

Great video! Great review. The best, most succinct video on this grinder out there right now. Preordered after watching.

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Thanks!! 😊

[@jackowens_]

Great review, Aaron! Must be lovely to have this show up on your doorstep unexpectedly - kudos Espresso Outlet! 👍🏻

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Thanks!!

[@erikasoldit]

Thank you for your thoughts on this grinder. I can’t wait to get mine and try it!

[@JeepBigE]

Great review! I ordered one about a week ago. Getting mine with the brew burrs. Can't wait to try it out.

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Thanks and congrats on picking one up!!

[@uly4546]

Great video mate, thank you for putting in the time. Very well done with lots of information. I've already ordered one 2 weeks ago. I wish people's comments would take into account the time you put into it instead of been brainless trolls

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Thank you!!! Everyone is entitled to their thoughts and you can’t please everyone 😊

[@DavidFricks]

this video sealed the deal for me. Just ordered one to replaces my Breville Smart Grinder Pro.

[@SoulBladeM]

I appreciate the noise level comments in the review. :) To me it's the deciding factor for an electric grinder.

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Thanks! I know that important to a lot of people so I always try to include it 😊

[@braxtonjens7839]

Nice balanced review. I think this is an awesome move from EO. I have a hard to find birrset made by mazzer 151G, and they work nice for filter in my mazzer major. But I am really interested in this grinder. Thanks for another nice review!

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Thanks for watching!

[@KevinS-ji6en]

Great review! I bought a sculptor and also did not like the big button but in daily use it is really useful. You can find it real easy without looking. 😊

[@Kobforshort]

Do you recommend the sculptor im shopping for my first and I was going to get in on the preorder it was my first selection even before Hofflords review which I’m happy he picked as well. Thus why im here shopping around hehe

[@Lectuz]

Nice that you focused on the auger pre-breaking or just feeding beans :)

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Thanks! I figured a lot of us were interested in that part 😊

[@saad9207]

Great review. Finally they put the variable speed on it

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Thanks!😊

[@mindybaum9310]

Can't stop admiring your beard !! Looks fab Aaron !

[@sxmxdrifter]

Dam every vid I see makes me more excited about getting mine. Good vid dude. That shirt is 🔥

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Thank you man!!!! The shirt is from my friend Brew Sleep Draw, @xbrewsleepdrawx on IG 🔥

[@himedia5165]

Love it!! This is going to be my first standalone grinder :) The power button is just fine I think; I like it because it separates itself only more 😊

[@mail-bg1tp]

Looks great!

[@officialMainspring]

this grinder is making me have second thoughts about my Timemore 78S. 😅 Looks like an awesome grinder.

[@Me-fl9eq]

Great Review! Thank you for making it so quickly, so potential buyers and pre-order holders, like myself, can learn about it, before actually getting it. Now I'm even more excited to get mine. I was skeptic about the pre breaking capability of the auger, but from you review it seems like it's actually working :). I guess it's more useful in lower RPM settings. Question - My thought process was to order it with the espresso burrs and buy SSP MP for filter and for a (completely) different espresso profile than the DLC stock burrs. You seemed to really like the filter produced by the DLC brew burrs. How does it compared to the SSP MP in your opinion? The downside is that it cannot do espresso like the SSP MP, but I now think changing my order to include both burrs and save some money and not going with the much more expensive SSP burrs.

[@l.l.coolray]

Great review, still waiting for this grinder in the UK. Hope they don't jack the price up to much here.👍😎🇬🇧

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Thanks! I hope the price isn’t too crazy for you either!!

[@GeauxGillespie]

Really great review. I’m considering ditching my espresso setup and going full on filter. What would you suggest between the Sculptor 078 and the DF83V with the brew burrs? How much of an upgrade over my K Max would it be?

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Thank you!!! I should hopefully have my 078 soon… maybe! So I’ll be able to do a side by side comparison for filter brewing vs this grinder. As far as compared to the KMax I can’t give you any comparison there cause I’ve actually never used one!!

[@gheistlich]

Thanks for the thoughtful review! Any indication on what the seasoning process for this guy would look like? I've heard Timemore''s Sculptor was brutal in that department.

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Thanks and great question! I may be wrong but in my experience coated burrs don’t require near as much seasoning as non coated burrs. I’m sure they may get a little better but I don’t know that you’d notice a ton of improvement like you will with uncoated burrs. Like I said I nay be completely wrong here but that’s been my experience.

[@gheistlich]

Of course, that makes so much sense! I had been looking at a Zerno, but this looks fantastic.

[@jimdaikh9381]

Great review! Can you please share the pour over coffee you used? You made it seem delicious.

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Thanks!!! I brewed a very tasty coffee from Luna which is a roaster near Vancouver Canada. This coffee is from producer Ildefonso Cordoba in Colombia and is a Pink Bourbon varietal. It’s a very delicious coffee but I don’t know if they still have it available. I bought this several months ago and vacuum sealed and froze about half the bag.

[@jimdaikh9381]

@@coffeenerdaaron thank you! I will check them out. Sounds like they have great coffee. Happy Holidays!

[@coffeenerdaaron]

@@jimdaikh9381 I definitely recommend them! Thank you 😊

[@aplanedividedthesky]

I received mine yesterday, and today I was playing a bit with the settings, trying to dial up the same type of grinding I normally use with my manual grinder, but it's proving challenging :p But hey, thanks to you, I learned how to set the absolute zero! So thanks for that! Btw, do you still have yours and use it? I ask because today, I removed the burrs to see how it looked inside and clean a bit (after testing the whole morning), and when I screwed everything back together, I realised the grinding marker is slightly off center... around 3 degrees clockwise. Not sure if I am doing anything wrong.... but I doubt it, cos there isn't much there to allow doing things wrong.

[@coffeenerdaaron]

I have noticed other people saying they’ve experienced the same issue when reinstalling the dial. I haven’t experienced this issue but I also don’t tighten it super tight, is it possible that’s it’s over tightened?

[@BensCoffeeRants]

Some people have commented that the wave-springs may have caused poor alignment, because the waves are a bit too large on the DF83 they should have many smaller waves ideally. Not sure if I noticed that with mine, but someone was saying alignment would change for his if he rotated the wave spring in a different orientation! I have no clue what MY wave spring placement was like initially! I never did alignment on mine but my Gen1 DF83 v1 seems to be performing well for me!

[@coffeenerdaaron]

I never experienced poor alignment as a result of the wave spring on either the DF64g2 or DF83g2. Unless something is wrong with the wave spring I don’t see how it couldn’t spread the load evenly. I worked in the automotive industry for a long time and a lot of automatic transmissions use wave springs to evenly apply pressure to the clutch packs. If it’s good enough for something more critical than coffee I think it’s probably fine! 😝

[@BensCoffeeRants]

@@coffeenerdaaron Nice, good to know! It was just the one guy who mentioned he noticed (a lot of people may not notice little issues though) it's also possible his was bent out of shape or something who knows.

[@healthandanatomy5454]

Buttons are a little bit off. It would be nice if all functional elements be on one side, not three(left, front, right). Except power button, that should be behind, near cable. Overall very good looking grinder with nice functionality.

[@jakevan1969]

So nice. It looks amazing. Can you tell me the height to the top of the hopper without the bellows? Thanks!

[@coffeenerdaaron]

I just measured it, it’s 13.5” from tabletop to the top of the hopper without the bellows and lid. With bellows and lid it’s 15.75”.

[@jakevan1969]

@@coffeenerdaaron Okay, good to know. Thanks for the great review.

[@coffeenerdaaron]

@@jakevan1969 thank you!!

[@Jordoooooo]

Any idea what the maximum dose is that will fit in the catch cup? Any thoughts on this as a filter grinder in a cafe setting?

[@priyankapatel1761]

Several questions: 1)How do we figure out the zero point? The issue I'm having is the dial know is either too loose where it doesnt catch/turn the dial disk underneath, or its too tight for me to move. So I'm constantly having to find the zero point. 2) I have light roast beans and it jams ... i have to open it up clean it out, and that leads to the dial knob misaligning ... then i'm back to square one 😂.... what setting do you recommend for light roast beans? 3) should i start the machine first and then add beans? Or vice versa? Thanks

[@hectorsalcedo9246]

Is that a black Turin Legato in the background?! I've been looking all over and can't find it. Did you do a vinyl wrap on it? Looks awesome!

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Indeed it is!! Yes I did a vinyl wrap it. I hope they produce a black and or white one, I think people will really like that.

[@ziptiefighter]

How does this grinder's under-load db compare to the Lagom P64's? I am glad to see this more powerful variable speed Turin. Sprometheus stated that he had recurring jamming issues with the DF64V.

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Unfortunately I don’t have a P64 to compare so I can’t give you an accurate answer on the comparison of volume while grinding. It hasn’t stalled on me yet but that’s not to say it absolutely won’t. I’m sure there is a scenario where the right type of beans and grind setting at low rpm may cause it to bind and stall, time will tell for that 😆

[@FyyMyy]

I own the df64v and I can confirm no stalling on light roast when the motor is running. There are pre production models send to reviewers where stalling was an issue. The release models don’t have these issues. ✌🏻

[@ziptiefighter]

@@FyyMyy Thankyou for chiming in. Can you confirm that that's the case with cold starts as well as hot? If it still has issues with cold starts, I'm thinking it ought to have a more powerful motor.

[@user-xc5jy1jw2j]

Thx for your shareing! And if i only do the pour over coffee, DLC brew burr and SSP MP burr which one is more clarity? thank you!

[@coffeenerdaaron]

The MP's have more perceived clarity

[@MinimalUnbox]

For pour over purposes how do you compare this with EK43 and EG1+Ultra Low Fine Burrs?

[@mayespakebusch4233]

Great review ! I have one on order and am interested to see how it compares to the Bentwood V63 that I am currently using..

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Thanks!!! I don’t own a Bentwood but I’ve used them and had some great coffee from them!

[@SarntAKluss]

Would be great to hear your thoughts - a friend of mine is thinking about to buy a bentwood...

[@jpjay1584]

those springs are actually better. they distribute the pressure more evenly across the burr carrier.

[@dude4christ00707]

Interesting comments on the springs. I had a df83v2 and ended up returning it after never getting consistent results and it turned out the wave spring was not quite right and I suspected that was the issue… i didn’t like the design of it so much that the first thing I looked for with this grinder was if it had the wave spring and when I saw it doesn’t I ordered it immediately lol😅

[@coffeenerdaaron]

That’s interesting, I’ve never had any issue with the wave spring on either the DF83’s or DF64’s that have them. How did you determine that the springs was the culprit of the issue you were having? You didn’t state what the issue was.

[@dude4christ00707]

@@coffeenerdaaron returned it and when I was discussing it with Joe he told me. The 83 is larger so if anything is off on it via defect or like grinds getting under it then the alignment is screwed and it’s very apparent. The 64 is smaller and I suspect much less prone to the issue because less leverage. This is my theory anyway and why I don’t like the design. But yea apparently mine actually had a defect.

[@coffeenerdaaron]

@@dude4christ00707 that’s wild, thanks for sharing you issue and experience with it, thankfully I haven’t had any issues like that!

[@dude4christ00707]

@@coffeenerdaaron definitely doesn’t seem that common.

[@BensCoffeeRants]

Apparently higher RPM breaks more % of the beans, and lower RPM breaks less. Not sure if it really makes much of a difference but would be interesting to compare and experiment.

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Yes, at higher rpm the prebreaker will be more efficient and therefore make the burrs more efficient and have to do less work.

[@bluemystic7501]

It would've been nice to hear more sound from the grinder.

[@Asphere-Ghart]

I purchase Gorilla Gear 64mm burrs for an older ODE. The motor is dying. I only do Pulse and Chemex pour over. What 64mm burr grinder do you recommend so I can use my Gorilla burrs or is the move to 83V a better option?

[@coffeenerdaaron]

The DF64 V2 is 64mm and spins at the same RPM as the Ode but with a stinger motor. Plus the motor is strong enough for espresso grinding if you ever get into espresso. I had Gorilla Gear burrs in a DF64 for a while and liked it. In my experience those burrs are better suited for espresso but they do well for filter brewing too.

[@skatcat31]

sounds like perfect spro burrs for BANA

[@braxtonjens7839]

😂 fact

[@justinham8281]

Dunno how familar you are with the MP's at 64 or 83 but do you think the filter burrs compare?

[@coffeenerdaaron]

I have used the 64mm MP’s and felt like I had a hard time with most coffees getting the sweet spot. Maybe I didn’t spend enough time with them to get a better feel for them but it just felt like they had a smaller window to dial in with. That being said I have had some fantastic cups from the larger 98mm MP burrs on an EK, and I do know a lot of people love the MP’s as a whole. I’ve never compared them side by side so it’s hard to recall what they tasted like compared to these, especially since it was also different coffees. If I can get my hands on a set I will definitely be testing them side by side!

[@choppersplace]

Will you be reviewing the timemore 78 ?

[@coffeenerdaaron]

I plan to!! I should have one soon 😊

[@CoreProject05]

Ourcoffeeshelter mentioned the dial is sticky and hard to make micro adjustments (0.25=2s diff in flow time) , and easy to overtighten the cover-> zero marker is not centered. How did you find these things?

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Yeah I saw his review! I can’t say I’ve had that same issue, it does get tighter and harder to turn as you get finer like a lot of other grinders so I didn’t notice it to be abnormal or a big issue.

[@CoreProject05]

@@coffeenerdaaron thanks. And how about overtightening the cover and zeropoint moving? Are the threads as cheap as the baseplate screw holes on the sculptor :)?

[@MSnyder99]

​@@coffeenerdaaronAlso curious if you had the same issue of the arrow not being centered. Great preview of the grinder, by the way!

[@GennadyVayl]

I would like to know as well... The arrow centering is concerning. For example can the threads be stripped?

[@coffeenerdaaron]

@@CoreProject05 I didn’t notice that the threads would be an issue when tightening the dial plate back on. If you’re really cranking on it I guess you could over tighten it but I feel like you’d really have to putting a lot of rotating force into it. I don’t think it’s a normal situation to have to super crank it on, I just tightened it till the arrow was straight up and it felt tight and stopped turning.

[@scoobtoober2975]

If you had 1k to spend. What would you get. Cheaper and spend the same amount on a different burr set. or larger burr no upgraded on the burr. Variable or not? I'm on the fence and ready to pick a side.

[@coffeenerdaaron]

@@scoobtoober2975 while burr size does factor in somewhat when it comes to performance and taste I would care more about quality and burr style/geometry. I would get the best quality grinder in your budget that has a good burr that works well for your primary brewing method. It really depends on how you typically brew and your flavor preferences. If you only do filter brewing and want flat burrs then something like the Gen 2 Ode is great and it would save you some money that you could then put into upgrading the burrs later after you’ve experienced the stock burrs to figure out what you like and don’t like. The Timemore 078 is one of my favorite grinders for filter brewing but if you do espresso also the 078S is an option, both under $1k. There are so many options for grinders and burrs, it’s hard to say without knowing your preferences but like I said I would care about the quality of the grinder and burrs before care about the burr size.

[@scoobtoober2975]

@@coffeenerdaaron Thanks. James Hoffman line up of $500 or less mentions the lagom mini as a preferred one at 48mm. Some larger conical or flat were not as good for espresso. Thanks for the info

[@JPC326]

How would you compare it to the Zerno Grinder ?

[@coffeenerdaaron]

Unfortunately I don’t have nor have I used a Zerno so I can’t give you an accurate comparison. I’ve heard great things about the Zerno, from what I understand the build quality is crazy good!

[@amourb7133]

Great review can you please show the grinder with a black metal lid instead of wood?

[@Sinisterg60]

Man this seems like such a good buy... I flirt with canceling my 078 for this every day...

[@coffeenerdaaron]

I know pal!!! 😝

[@bayphoto]

078 for brew, DF83v espresso with a f58. Great combo

[@itsrab100]

can you do a df64v compared to DF83v?

[@coffeenerdaaron]

If I can get a DF64V I will!

[@itsrab100]

@@coffeenerdaaron yesssssss, if you do, thank you so much 😭

[@EricMilewski]

Looks good, but I'm sticking to my DF64V just because of size&weight 🤷

[@sasakisirius6722]

It looks familiar… EK43 : brother!

[@PeterGfromSVK]

Nice grinder except of the ugly main switch. If they make version 2 with the simple lever switch hidden on the back, wave washer instead of the springs and PF holder (e.g. magnetic, instead of the cup), I'm going to order it... :)

[@JoeyVaracalli]

I wish they made a grind by weight so bad

[@coffeenerdaaron]

That would be amazing!!

[@MarkPharaoh]

Welp, I was certain I was going to buy a Zerno in January….not so certain anymore 😅

[@coffeenerdaaron]

From what I hear the Zerno is a fantastic grinder! I wish I had one to do a comparison with.

[@bennymozzarella1605]

Is there an $800.00+ grinder that isn't good? Asking for a friend

[@Kevin-dl5ud]

How does it compare with a timemore sculptor 078s?

[@coffeenerdaaron]

I’d love to tell you if I had one… at least for filter! I backed for an 078 during the kickstarter but sadly haven’t received it yet. When I get it I’m sure I’ll be doing some side by side testing but since I didn’t get an S model I won’t know for espresso.

[@jleung85]

My df64v stalls like crazy at 600. Super annoying.

[@avramsanders9198]

How/where have you learned SO much about coffee and coffee equipment? You have such a swath of knowledge about it but, seemingly, dont actually work in the coffee industry.

[@coffeenerdaaron]

You’re right I don’t work in the coffee industry! I’ve been into specialty coffee for a long time and I’ve made tons of awesome friends in the coffee world, shop owners, roasters, baristas etc. I’m lucky to know a lot of great people. Also my video production company does a lot of work in the coffee world so we get to know a lot of people and have got to work with some great companies.

[@Jantonvid]

You should really disclose if you were getting the kick back or any benefit to people ordering using your link.

[@coffeenerdaaron]

I do not get a kick back, none of my links are ever affiliate links, I just provide them so people can link to them quickly.

[@cgirl111]

I'm just going to say it - this sounds like an ad.

[@limitlesssky3050]

It's a day one review. All day one reviews sound like an ad. But at least he told us about the Prebreaker.

[@coffeenerdaaron]

I definitely wasn’t planning on it being an add, I don’t get paid to do these reviews other than receiving a product, these are my actual feelings on the grinder.

[@SJ-rp1pl]

@@coffeenerdaaronfeels good to get a free grinder amirite

[@wheelerlight8541]

Every other creator is saying the exact same thing about this grinder-it’s great. Like all DF products, it’s an amazing deal. Get over it.

[@user-yr2mx9mn1j]

I get the same feeling 😊 when I watch this vid i really want to order

[@abdullahalghamadi1684]

It looks ugly tbf, on and off button is stupid and that hopper ? Zero creativity I hate the look of the grinder

[@asapnapster2514]

Just a suggestion: You should redo your background for your videos. Pretty distracting. ☕️👏🏻

[@michaelch7529]

Stay away from Espresso Outlet and any retail Joe has association with.

[@rayhan2884]

why

[@JeepBigE]

Elaborate for us.

[@limitlesssky3050]

​@@JeepBigEAccording to some other forums, apparently, they have horrible customer service. I don't live in the US, so this is not first-hand experience.

[@MightyMike.Veritas]

I am going to call BS, I have first hand experience with Espresso Outlet and their customer support was excellent. Maybe you should fact check?

[@michaelch7529]

If you have been a member of any of their FB groups and leave any negative feedbacks, they will ban and delete all of your posts. They don’t like user feedback related to negativity. Most of the DF series grinders have been plagued by multiple issues and if you buy one, you need to ensure you have good, reliable service from the seller who’s not going to hassle you.