Nothing beyond mind - UG Krishnamurti

UG talk at Yercaud in 1995
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[@daithiocinnsealach1982]

"I admit that everything is copied." Look at his expression as he says it. Then he says "huh, finished." Then you see once again he is finished with it. This really bugged him. Nothing unique but the individual living organism. This is probably my favourite clip. So much said here that hits me deep. And the bit that hits me most is the same bit that hit Mahesh Bhatt. Bob says "so we come and listen to you" and UG responds "you're not listening to me Bob" (my god, I love that part) "I have no illusions. Not at all. How can people be interested in this?" (I believe he is referring back to where he admits that he has no original thoughts and the despair this seems to fill him with). Then Mahesh says (and I also felt the same way at this point) "there is something there. What is it that attracts me to you?" It is his claim to free from illusions that hit me and I believe hit Mahesh. We chase all the pleasures of life and they only end in misery. Remember Mahesh with his beautiful young movie star girlfriend who went insane and died so tragically. UG gave practically everything up except the basic necessities of life. He gave up hope and in doing so freed himself of so much misery. We fear we are missing out on life if we don't keep chasing our own tails and chasing the trinkets of the world. UG was a complicated and even contradictory man for sure, but there is just something there that keeps drawing me back. Perhaps the most honest man I have ever come across. "The only thing that can happen to you is that you will be less burdened. That's all. You can't throw away the whole lot, well, bit by bit you throw away, but no, you don't even have to drop anything."

[@Ashish-nd3xj]

For one he was a charming good looking man. A man who after ages of seeking got so fade up that he spent his whole remaining life talking this. He was blessed with good genes, wealthy family. He could afford to talk all this and spend his time doing nothing. Giving up the seeking does not guarantee any betterment of life he was just lucky !

[@Ashish-nd3xj]

@UG i searched for 40 years and gave up and still nothing guarantees happiness. So there is misery in searching, there is misery in non searching because then you are in a 'natural state' carrying the burdens of daily life struggles. One can just go thru motions and die when the time is up. Giving up chasing enlightenment opens door only for some hope, some relief. And no, there is nothing 'here, now' that will lead to another door for misery and what not. Just is, just be.

[@Ashish-nd3xj]

@UG we can't run away and can't not run away there is no way out, kill time in best possible manner

[@Ashish-nd3xj]

@UG no no it's okay you are not disturbing. I stopped searching because I realized it's not good for my mental health. Obsessive thinking is bad for my mental make up, I gave up because every theory failed in front of me, i gave up because I realized it's all a mental game.

[@LordJagd]

Funnily, this end of the search, or “no search”, the “here and now” that you describe is found in Zen Buddhism. I think Zen basically uses the language of Buddhism as a tradition to get to this natural state. Their kind of enlightenment is not a religious event or anything, it’s a part of seeing reality as it is, without all the junk we layer over it. And I think Zen as a tradition aims to foster that natural state.

[@OfCourseICan]

I'm a 71 year old Aussie and I have found Nirvana and UG is all over it. The Secret to life is "PERCEPTION". Fucking Simple!

[@creativitywithspirituality9184]

Just sight of him draws love into me😍🤗🤗

[@dushyantchhabra2554]

He is awesome

[@dushyantchhabra2554]

Is ur suffering over ?

[@creativitywithspirituality9184]

@@dushyantchhabra2554 how can it be.. We are human beings to be living in misery n dying in misery😅😅

[@dushyantchhabra2554]

@@creativitywithspirituality9184 by no suffering I meant no resistance to wat is.by no suffering I meant no belief in separation.i know by misery u mean pain.nd yeah life's flow is always pleasure nd pain

[@creativitywithspirituality9184]

@@dushyantchhabra2554 lovely words🤗.. No, my resistance to pain is not gone completely and I wonder if that is even possible.. Acceptance of 'what is' has grown but is not complete.. N again I wonder if it is possible to completely accept 'what is' 🤔

[@SurfAllDayA1A]

UG, dropping the truth, too heavy to pick up for these dudes

[@akashjyoti1650]

He ain’t UG, he’s the OG. Change my mind .

[@_the_Necromancer]

music, beauty, art, creativity...its all OUT UG the nihilist

[@bittugym8282]

Bob is the real friend of ug

[@Rishi-wd3sm]

🤣

[@iamyouu]

What sir? BOBBBBB!! 🤣🤣

[@visheshcr3774]

If Bob is still alive . I wanna meet him 😂😂

[@vidalskyociosen3326]

Bob!!! Help me!

[@sanjeets.3837]

😂😂

[@bittugym8282]

good luck is the great words from ug

[@prashantkadarakoppa2716]

Ha ha

[@Ashish-nd3xj]

The next best is go somewhere else, go anywhere

[@puneetgrvr]

Ug was a legend

[@marcpelletier1366]

The clock in the background is the only thing worth listening to in this video

[@marcpelletier1366]

Correction noted, I guess I had clocks on the"mind". Lol (:

[@arvi2010]

I don't mind

[@farrider3339]

@@marcpelletier1366 : LoL 4 correction 🏆.. Autocorrect always helpful ☝️.•°

[@marcpelletier1366]

Far Rider 🐔

[@farrider3339]

@@marcpelletier1366 :maybe correct ✅ + 6.34: "...untouched by .." someone starts beating some ghosts out of something else ! hehe .•°

[@londonfixxed4780]

"The very basic of music I have been pointing out is absurd, trying to link up..you see the space between two notes" This is enough for me to now that he is actually a "Barking Dog"

[@rusty4180]

UG rules!!

[@gaspardobicaj4091]

Absolutely, people are too scared of their own illusions

[@creativitywithspirituality9184]

Send them some comforters.. That's all they are interested in!!

[@abhip499]

Very jucy..❤❤❤

[@drewpowers7236]

“Nothing happened Bob!!”

[@daithiocinnsealach1982]

"It's a frightening world that you're painting." "No, I'm not [painting] any frightening world, that's the reality of the world. You don't want to look at it that way. You want to fantasize things. Sorry [not sorry, 😂]. Live in your fantasies, I don't care. I'm not here to help you, free you, get you out of that fantasy." "You're not listening to me Bob." Why do I love this man so much? This is why. His "negativity" always makes me feel better.

[@jakeweiler9263]

He's not negative in the slightest, once you believe that your way is the positive way any other way seems negative in comparison if it doesn't share your values that you presuppose are good and right

[@waedjradi]

@@jakeweiler9263 Duh. He knows he (or U.G.) is not negative. @daithiocinnsealach3173 is just speaking broadly or generally when he says "his negativity always makes me feel better." Most of U.G. followers take what he says too seriously, yet U.G. himself doesn't take himself seriously lol

[@hardeepkaur2753]

Journey life Truth we all are gods gifts death is temple death is real diamond truth

[@soulseer3807]

Hi, can you tell me a way of getting copies of his videos myself? I'd like to conduct video sessions in small groups with friends.

[@daithiocinnsealach1982]

Download or just play the video from here.

[@soulseer3807]

@@daithiocinnsealach1982 I want to upload them on my fb page U.G.Krishnamurti.

[@madhuswetta3913]

⚡️ VERY VERY POWERFUL ⚡️

[@zatoichiable]

If the mind couldnt conceptualize it doesnt exist is an opinion which is not the absolute truth.

[@creativitywithspirituality9184]

Why are u talking about vaastu? 😄😄😂

[@waedjradi]

People secretly want to be led. This is how cults emerge. Guys like U.G., Osho, Watts, Lao Tzu, just to name a few - they were well above thought and did not care for mundanity. Which means they were clear about what they conveyed, nor they probably could not lie if they wanted to, due to their immaculate clarity. They were honest, even if it came off psychologically painful. As for most who form cults, like Jim Jones, Eligio Bishop, Keith Allen Raniere, for instance, utilized their ways to exploit people to self-gratify their personal trauma. Most of these guys take advantage and create cults, that lead to sex abuse, which NEVER advocates their real personal issue.

[@carlhammill5774]

he just sounds angry at this point. I wish we could listen to him in calm state.

[@daithiocinnsealach1982]

Did you watch a different video? I see no anger. At one point he admits he has nothing original to say and you can see he thinks once again that this makes the whole thing a sham. All just repeating repeating, remixing, remixing. He has no interest in this repitition and reorganization. Yet, that is what is going on in all of nature...

[@joydevghosh8017]

A blind man can deny the words beauty, light, colour.... as nonsense.

[@prashantkadarakoppa2716]

😁😄

[@perumalnarayanan2975]

Excellent comparison

[@manoramadivakar7840]

What happens if body ceases to be ( death) before all garbage has been thrown out, or strangle hold is still present?

[@anatureperson5551]

If the body dies before spiritual awakening, the spirit of the person will have to find another body and continue where they left off in another body.

[@prashantkadarakoppa2716]

Sick theosophy

[@naelunari]

😂😂😂 UG

[@bittugym8282]

marketing is

[@pedjamigrant7189]

Basta !

[@O-Kyklop]

they went there to get pounded by him. kind of funny.

[@TheHotrodracing]

10:21 is the answer to all questions

[@onlylove_33]

Means

[@TheHotrodracing]

@@onlylove_33 There is no one there to be liberated from.

[@salmanmahfuz7997]

U picked up the core message...

[@gnome1645]

Who is Bob?

[@Awakenedlamba]

Some guy who lived there .

[@phanikumar413]

Is it talk or mere sound and cacophony?Sounds more like frustration.In one talk no"I", no seer, and now I am not an illusion.Total waste.Why not just BE in SILENCE.

[@nikhilpujyar1525]

Cz it will be temporary . Thats what this guy is trying to say . Everything is temporary everything . No matter what . Every feeling every thought !

[@kunalarora927]

extremely frustrated hopeless guy ug

[@daithiocinnsealach1982]

@@kunalarora927 There is surely that element to him. He abandoned everything to chase after religious delusion. I know this reality too well. And so he becomes the guru of the extremely frustrated, hopeless individual who sees the shit of existence for what it is. He has given up hope as the hopeless delusion it is and just seeks to live out his days in peace and quiet. But his anger and frustration shows. He sometimes reveals he wishes he had just been a banker who made a ton of money, but here he is having to play the part of a guru, trying to tell people it's all bullshit, but they refuse to accept this and instead prefer to create yet another illusion out of his man. Turn him into some sort of god. I suspected this had all happened even just a century ago we'd have a new religion on our hands. And his disciples would change his message to be more "spiritual".

[@bittugym8282]

don't talk front of ug

[@bittugym8282]

madhesh think hi is the great director but ug is the coments with

[@sanathansatya1667]

He is angry and jealous. Spent his life in negating what others said or experienced. His jargon is not new . It was spoken and written by some half enlightened philosophers in the past. His presumed rival JK negated other teachers. This guy negates JK. Those who do not read philosophy in its varied expressions will find this guy amusing. This guy is resistant to knowledge and he claims that resistance is knowledge . He never accepts his own ignorance . And strongly believes he has crossed all the horizons of ignorance . There ends his story in the dustbin . Leave alone quietness in the mind or soul . He was physically restless and intolerant . Nice hair cut and good denture to look like a philosopher.

[@marcpelletier1366]

You know a lot

[@sanathansatya1667]

@@marcpelletier1366 Sorry sir. If I know a lot I am on the wrong track. To unlearn is the best path.

[@marcpelletier1366]

Chedu Nijam The negative approach makes it a little bit easier to arrive at zero, and have a chance of negating the self. -TheUG

[@sanathansatya1667]

@@marcpelletier1366 Negating the self is akin to erasing the illusion that separates the individual self with the Universal Self.

[@marcpelletier1366]

Chedu Nijam negating the self is ... ..

[@blackarrow9072]

UG wasn't very musical.

[@rengrag4868]

UKG' philosophy is really misleading....

[@_-AB-_]

He has no philosophy. He just reacts to person in front of him, drops a few eye openers along it. It can be attested by statements like "You don't listen to me Bob".

[@rengrag4868]

@@_-AB-_Sree UKG is really speaking of vendata only may be shoonya vedanta means vedanta on nothingness. I am saying there is always something that burns in me something that always ON. Mind is totally different from it. I feel it...

[@rengrag4868]

Hope is Dope...

[@nikhilpujyar1525]

@@rengrag4868 listen the man is just trying to say that nothing is permanent as simple as that . Everything has an expiry date .

[@kunalarora927]

misguided missile ug

[@chandramaulys2731]

U g Krishnamurti had assumed that he was a great philosopher because he had a name in common with jiddu Krishnamurti.actually UG was a blockhead.

[@Danny-wb2zr]

Nice joke you numb nut... He was a speaker from the Theosophical society who was sent around the world to give lectures... Try something else you dim witted numb skull.

[@kunalarora927]

ug was not even equal to the dust under the feet of great enlightened master j krishnamurty

[@obscurealm]

Right!! UG is only paraphrasing what JK has told , UG is a parrot JK is original.

[@okacet9412]

Most idiots hated UG for one reason. He never gave any hope to anyone. UG realized that he was surrounded by some people always hoping to get some blessings from him. If you are really serious about knowing the TRUTH, you don't have to listen to him for a second time. UG was pure original for any intelligent creature. He never cared about others and their opinion.

[@obscurealm]

@@okacet9412 UG is repeating what JK spoke, nothing original abt UG.

[@iosefaandrews2351]

What a waste of time. So? He holds views which offers nothing to anyone and he would probably admit to that nor would he care. Glad he's gone.