Nothing Can Cool A 13th Gen I9?! 🤬

[@TheOtherSteel]

I hadn't realized the boiling point was the new normal temperature for higher-end CPUs under load. I'd think about refrigerated cooling.

[@matzetech]

The problem is even refrigerated cooling won't help because the conductivity of the heatspreader of the core i9-13900K(S) are not good enough to transfer the heat away before the CPU reaches 100°C. You would have to direct die cool this CPU. Moral of the story: get AMD CPUs, especially their 7 7800X3D if you have the money

[@Brix-fp3bh]

​@@pherostech7892 And if you are on 7000x3d cpus make sure to update bios to prevent it from burning up... Hopefully...

[@temotskipuri3151]

It is normal, as long as the CPU hits the advertised boost clocks, which is 5.8 GHz. In this video it only hits 5.4, which means it's thermal throttling.

[@willt3223]

@@pherostech7892 but they blow up

[@drawingfan9024]

See you gotta worry about condensation then

[@iknowdawae893]

top 3 hottest things 3. the sun 2. the 13900K 1. your mo- edit: apparently the sun is not on earth or something /s

[@MysonNathansVideos]

PERFECT

[@RadiateurLeVrai]

xD

[@Birdman._.]

Him:On earth Also him:sun

[@Atari-5200]

5990x

[@electricbill92]

-therboard vrms

[@Iesous27]

Imagine drowning the computer in mineral oil. You could deep fry ice cream in it

[@Neuro_Divergent]

and it would sttil run

[@BallanOff]

Had the same problem with my 12900K. Undervolted by like .01 or something, and it solved my temperature issues without loosing anything in perf or boost clock

[@gotthis5613]

is that safe?

[@gamerofficial382]

@@gotthis5613 s when you just less like .01 like this not too much

[@TheCyrilx06]

It's always safe to undervolt

[@jamegumb7298]

​@@TheCyrilx06If by safe he means not blow up or burn up then yes. If he means stable when he says safe, that is never guaranteed outside of spec and needs stress testing. But if you keep it light, should be stable. As always, test it though.

[@genuwhine6782]

Losing

[@ulyssesu24]

I've been using the v2 for 2 months now and no issues. Maybe if i upgrade i wont keep the msi cooler but so far i would recommend it if you don't have a lot of money

[@GloryShadowz]

If you don’t have a lot of money then why are you buying a 600-800$ raptor lake cpu? Doesn’t quite make sense but I love my i9-13900k

[@hydrogenperoxide9118]

I have a v2 240mm, it ended up having the sediment buildup problem and so i took apart the cooler drained it, filled it up with vinegar and let it run for a hour. I repeated this twice. I later added distilled water and now it runs fine keeps my 111w oc ryzen 5 2600 nice and cool

[@GloryShadowz]

@@hydrogenperoxide9118 how do you detect that?

[@hydrogenperoxide9118]

@@GloryShadowz well i opened up the cooler because my pc would shutdown from overheating. Looked at the heat fins and they were gunked up with this white sediment stuff

[@flypop2014]

I had the first generation MSI cooler, and an AMD Ryzen 5 3600. I never noticed if it ran hot since it has low TDP. When I installed an AMD 5950X, I noticed it overheated. When looking into it, I discovered the recall. Since I RMA'd it, they quickly sent me the V2 version, and no issues since. I not only trust them, but their fast replacement made me believe they stand behind their products.

[@RektByStorm7]

I just built my first PC after being on an MSI laptop for like 5-6 years and that thing was a resilient little sucker and it made me put faith into MSI and I still have that faith in them even after building my PC with a fair amount of MSI parts

[@brettc2214]

Yeah no surprise the 3600 runs really nice and cool, should only hit like 80 even using the stock cooler

[@fighterpimp]

I don't like their pump design. I talked to some guys at micro center about it. It isn't a good design. They need to just change it.

[@byallon3639]

The best option is to undervolt it to 180W, you don't lose much performance and the temps drop to 70-80 °C at full charge

[@Infinite-INF]

Msi motherboreds have this Lite load that have no drawback and lowers temps a lot (apperently) for i9 13900K. But for gaming the i9 13900k will PROBABLY not get over 90 if you have a good 360mm aio like the Arctic freezer II or corsair H150I

[@sp-ce]

*buys a 13900k instead of a 13700k* *undervolts to get the same performance as 13700k* *also just plays minecraft*

[@rcortez5979]

​@@sp-ce😂

[@eliasneto4737]

I would say 253w. Sweet spot.

[@user-kr2fn8ww2i]

​@eliasneto4737 so basically an i9 13700k ti/xt

[@quantumX3-old]

he… threw… a new cooler… across the room…

[@enibriated6699]

yeah.. did you also notice the thermal paste application? lol

[@SnowwRust]

I will bake 12 cookies and send them too you guys for a 4070

[@kalzindor803]

Linus said 13900k runs very hot. Intel compensating for bad architecture, very high energy consumption to keep up with AMD 5nm. Extremely inefficient.

[@AlphaPlaysFPS]

The i386, fx 9590 and plenty others operated between 90-100°c. High temp doesn’t equate always to architecture being ‘bad’. As if this moment 13900k is $549.99 and 7950X3D is $627 on userbenchmark.

[@byallon3639]

They will solve that the next gen with a new fabrication process

[@AlphaPlaysFPS]

@@byallon3639 my 13900k doesn’t go above 80°c. I have no idea what people mean by it runs hot. my 9700k ram hotter under stress. I have seen toooons of videos showing the same. But i guess it has no credence unless ‘linus says’

[@AlphaPlaysFPS]

@@AlexDatcoldness well. I don’t know what that comment means since I personally don’t care for Linus. I was referencing other architecture in the last. Making a statement about specs, not opinions as you so effortlessly included.

[@TriDaySpeed]

Bro's not even thinking about my Ryzen 7 💀 (120 degress celcius help)

[@MpoweredHustle]

DeepCools LS or LT720. Solved my problems

[@pearelectronics3083]

Maybe a huge custom loop could do it?

[@ShadowLancer128]

Now I know most rational people aren't going to want to delid their $500 13900K, however, with the cpu delidded, workload temps have been reduced to about 80C, and frequencies, as expected, are about 150 MHz higher. Something to think about.

[@t0xic661]

Delid, repaste, replace the ihs with a nice copper one, 360mm radiator, well ventilated and perhaps Air Conditioned room and then undervolt it and its quite manageable which is ridiculous because 99.99% of consumers would never do most of that

[@steph_on_yt]

@T0xic just set PL1 to 253W (or lower) in your BIOS and you'll be fine; no need for delidding or exotic cooling solutions. I don't get why people are acting like these things require massive amounts of tweaking to be usable

[@t0xic661]

@@steph_on_yt I'd rather get a different CPU

[@steph_on_yt]

@@t0xic661 you're most welcome to do so, but my point still stands that keeping the i9 cool isn't as daunting as you make it seem. The same applies to Ryzen 7000 X-SKUs that target 95C out of the box.

[@t0xic661]

@@steph_on_yt it’s not daunting, but getting what you pay for requires more work than previous gen which is ridiculous

[@rollingthunderinho]

I ran a laptop i7 @ 100c+ for like 7 years straight btw. Little uncomfortable but totally safe to do

[@qwertybertross4166]

Yeah but that’s a laptop and to be expected 😭

[@thekitsunedev_hun]

intels new cpus will gonna need a frickin' AC to cool it

[@sypo.]

“why is there a cord coming from your freezer?” “i got an i9”

[@LexonBlackzz]

My MSI 240R V2 is still doing okay after 2.5 months :) No issues, but if it breaks, I guess I'll just RMA it

[@UGFIWilly]

Just buy a contact fream and will fix it like my mine drop from 100c to 80 full load with custom water cooling and idle temp 22-29

[@dampintellect]

I've been using an enermax 360mm for my 7950x for about 5 months now. I had heard bad things about some of their coolers as well but it has been doing good for me. MSI does seem to be having a bad batch of coolers right now but they will probably come back to normal soon.

[@autisticturtle5838]

I would actually say the bad batch was produced about a year or so ago as it seems that most that are breaking are about a year old. So hopefully currently produced units are fine.

[@JoeNasr123]

Both Intel and AMD latest generation just throw it immediately to the TJMax and let it figure out what to do. I don’t know the logic but I’m not a processor engineer

[@ibobeko4309]

I think for the longevity that is really bad and wait when the summer arrives it will be way hotter than right now.

[@PaulBlartGaming]

​@ibo beko they have both released interviews where they have talked about it. Dw about it

[@user9267]

The hotter it is, the more efficient the cooling is

[@CharonSin]

The coolers can keep the i9 cool if you set the max turbo to 253w in the bios located under the “box cooler” for MSI MB. Don’t select tower or water. My i9 max temperature in Cinebench is between 67 and 72c.

[@LandShades]

Damn ok that’s something I’ve never read

[@unbound2424]

You got a video tutorial? I'm a beginner pc builder lol

[@LandShades]

@@unbound2424 probably something related to firmware or in bios I don’t know since I just use a stock cooler for my cpu

[@user-hr4hu8xb5f]

​@@LandShades Actually 13900k has decent efficiency, the issue is most of the motherboard OEMs set the cpu runs in unreasonable tdp by default. Just limit the tdp to 253w which is the official intel spec already helps a lot. If you are willing to undervolt it a bit, it can be even better.

[@seanchu9139]

​@@user-hr4hu8xb5for just buy ROG board and do AI OC😂 Saves a ton of time 😂

[@GuyX2013]

Hookup nitrous sprayers to the cooler 😂

[@DonaldRump.]

What clock speeds though? Temp dosnt matter if your getting 4ghz vs 5.5

[@sr20detized]

Running slight undervolt is the way with i9s. I've yet to find a scenario personally where I've considered overclocking my 12900k. Cinebench still near 28k running sub 70c.

[@Priingles]

These cooler’s had an issue with clogging. Running it immediately does not prove much, it can still clog after a year or two. Check out Greg salazar, he covered these coolers

[@bobthebuilder6504]

try use a stock intel fan on the cpu and see how it compares

[@v8trax]

I had the same MSI AIO fail. I returned it via RMA. The "new" replacement a year in makes occasional clicking noises and I'm expecting it to eventually fail too.

[@louiienation8497]

Gonna have to build an icebox setup inside there. Those temps are crazy. Our only hope is under volting.

[@yowamidesu]

Couldn't it be partially the case? I can't tell for sure because of the camera moving around, but isn't that a Hyte y40? I've seen a few people in the hyte subreddit mention it being a hot box. I didn't pay too much attention to what they said because I have a y60 myself and built it for maximum airflow which was pretty easy to achieve given how open of a case it is

[@bretthake7713]

I have a 13900k with an NH-C14S in my y60. Idle sits at 30C, still hits 100C in 30sec in CB23 but nothing I do ever hits it that hard - I just output a 75+min 4k vid in under 15min and it never broke 60C so I'm fine with it. If I need to step up cooling I will but I love the Y60 so far

[@Draconion]

You should check the wattage of the cpu for more accurate cooler performance readings. I have a 12900k with a nh-d15 and it takes 250 watts before reaching 100c.

[@viliamrev.1]

I would use the antibending frame and your all good

[@CrowOnTheWall]

No, but I don't like AIOs anyway. A quality air cooling solution will generally give you about the same performance as a quality AIO. So I prefer either Air Cooling or custom Open Loop liquid cooling. AIOs clearly have their place in the market though.

[@laap3ace360]

I‘ve heard that motherboard brands artificially crank up the powerlimits of the i9 for better review performance to the detriment of long time affects. Saw a video recommending to disable this function or set manual powerlimits in the BIOS.

[@SaxaphoneDuck]

For under $600, what is the best humanly possible aio cooler?

[@UltraFr0st]

Those CPU's draw from 250 to 300+ watts , which translates to a lot of heat on the IHS of the CPU. There were even bios updates from various motherboard manufacturers to undervolt the VCORE even more from stock values. They just run hot on any cooler when they max out.

[@afroamasiaca]

Wanted to start out on that fancy new i9 but I’m a rookie new fuck and now this seems daunting

[@matthewsternbauer7796]

Running a 13900k, just installed an EK Nucleus. Even at full load overclocked running cinebench R23 only running at 88C.

[@coys4life450]

Btw Msi Asus Nzxt Corsair coolers all use the same Asetek pump while an arctic freezer has a way better pump

[@cyraxo_tcg9906]

Just check your power limit 1 and set it to 252W😊

[@williamray4512]

So what am I to do with my 14900k that is on the way?

[@juanito5548]

Is there any problem if I use an air coller to the 13900k?

[@inkanthem]

With intakes on the side like this, you need intakes on the bottom. Exhaust on top/back and watch those temps improve

[@theaveragegamer1719]

Remove the glass case.

[@cuzr702]

Mine stays cool with just a 240 rad. I have to turn up the case fans with some games though.

[@mclovin3844]

I’ve had the v2 for almost a year now and have found 0 issues with it even after switching and moving it to 2 different cases

[@projectapexitadvice1333]

Someones never heard of undervolting

[@rig85]

I have a 13900k. I got the Corsair 420mm HI170i Elite and Cinebench tops out at 80C for me. 😎

[@avitkori765]

What cabby did you use to fit that humongous rad?

[@Zinglebarb]

I just max the PL1 and PL2 on my 13700K PL1 @ 125watt and the PL2@ 253watts still runs @ 5.3 Ghz and only hits about 85degrees. It does power throttle but I am ok with that. I personally would power limit the 3900K too. I use the Artic Freezer II 420mm

[@MrJab1995]

Its not just the cooler. There is a limitation due to the stock heat spreader on the i9.

[@Noooo23523]

try cooling stock 300w-500w with an 250w maximum cooler that can do 300w for 1 minute

[@krisg822]

​@@Noooo23523 i got 400W cooling setup, the water coming from the CPU block is not warmer than 60*C while the CPU hits 100. It is the size of the die. You can not keep 250Watts cool, when the die surface is smaller than of a 85W 1st gen i7. Those are facts. Even yhe specially designed water blocks, can not keep it under 90*C, but at least then the CPU can use full performance....if not overclocked.

[@Noooo23523]

@@krisg822 400w of cooling is not enough thats like a slim 360 water cooling setups have normaly atleast 2 360mm radiators and if posible medium or thick ones,the 13000 use like 200-300 and max boost clock they use like 290w-500w and 400w of cooling is not enough for cpu and gpu and water temp should be probably as low as posible not only under 60 and most of time its under 50 or 40 if the cooling is good,if the cooling is not enough you have good temps for a couple of minutes then the water in the loop gets hot and the cooling cant cool it down enough

[@Noooo23523]

@@krisg822 my first comment meant you cant cool an stock wattage intel 300w cpu with the strongest air cooler that can cool only 250w or the strongest 360mm aio that can cool maximum almost 300w for a few minutes then also can only cool max 250w or maybe even less because the small water capacity and 1 slim radiator get hot after high load

[@krisg822]

@@Noooo23523 my 13700k is not OCed, it's stock. This means it supposed to run at max 250W, which it sometimes exceeds and goes to 270-ish. Anyway, i got two of the 420 radiators, i think they are about 4,5cm thick or so. This means also there are 6 x 140 fans mounted on there. The max 60*C water that comes in, goes out at about 30~35*C....well depends on room temperature. On idle and room temp at 22*C , the CPU will stay close to 28~30*C, the warmer the room temperature the bigger that difference will be, and so at 28*C room it would be some 40*C on the CPU. Only the CPU get's water cooling - both radiators for the CPU only. Putting that aside, as i said, the size of the die makes it impossible to keep it under 85*C @250W with water cooling, bcoz you would have to go way below room temperature. BTW who claimed a single 360 is equivalent to 400W? that is BS, 360 is good for 150W and not more than that. If you want to keep on cool temps, you need to take half off the power rating the manufacturer claims it to be. And so 13900 would have to get like twice MORA3 or the MORA3 420 to keep it under 100*C....or even better, a car radiator lol

[@L7EDITS.SHORTS]

What cooler is the triple fan? I also have a i9 13900k and I need a good cooler

[@ronin1754]

It's called arctic liquid freezer 2 or 3 360 mm aio ,can easily cool the cpu.

[@giacomovisioli4327]

I'm using a cooler master illusion Ml360 (100$) to cool an i9 13900k and after applying a thermal frame and a new thermal paste (artic mx-6) spread over the entire available cpu surface, temps stay below 92 °C at 300 W in cinebench.

[@Donnyshmegma]

Yeah they sent you a creator replacements while I can't get them to take mine and I know others had the same problem

[@gr93cjs]

I have just bad experiences with MSI, they just stopped working after a couple months. Now I'm very happy with NZXT

[@RubbingPotatoes]

The high temperatures might be due to some motherboards not limiting watts and pushing higher power on turbo until it throttles? Theres a setting on the bios.

[@guzzuanim]

Those subtitles gonna give me epileptic headaches lol

[@xander31591]

Get an after market mounting bracket for lga 1700 for better temperature performance. It makes a hell of a difference, much more than this comparison. Thermal grizzly makes a decent one.

[@dampintellect]

TG and TR make one. Along with AM5 ones as well.

[@felipecesar883]

it's not the cooler fault, intel i9 13900k just uses thermal headroom to boost as far as it can so it will pretty much always hit that 100c if it doesn't it will keep trying to squeeze more frequency/voltage in until it does

[@Eldood1000]

open loop, mora 420, direct die, liquid metal is what i would do. or just use a chiller.

[@Saint_Jerome]

I bought an msi cooler when it first came out, it wasn't bad but it definitely could of been better.

[@sweetyeet235]

Can we get infrared temps of the radiators please? I get roughly the same temperatures but for what ever reason my radiator doesn’t get hot which seems to suggest there’s an issue with heat transfer under the cpu lid.

[@njmathers1]

test an arctic 360 with p12 max fans. direct die coolers seem to be the only thing to keep these under control

[@AllTheOne219]

I see this then i see a MSI ad 😂

[@SJCS2]

These coolers are good it's just that 13900K is a built in microwave

[@danieltillman3858]

Delid is what did the trick for my 14700k

[@lennyv.m1302]

My pc instantly crashed on cinebench because of the temps. (Custom loop with 2×360rads and rtx 4090wb) A Bios update solved my problem. New max Temp is about 90°C

[@krisg822]

your CPU does now thermal throttling 😅 that is why lower temps.

[@sbochi7132]

custom water loop can cool, ig arctic liquid freezer ii 420 could cool too

[@ThePred2009]

You will need a custom waterloop to cool it

[@ExploringRevenantsParanormal]

I just had to replace my 3 fan msi aio like the one in the video. Exactly 1 year and it clogged on me. It did good in that one year though with keeping my 5900x cool. I just installed a noctua nh-d15 air cooler and it's doing a pretty good job honestly.

[@holickingjiggs359]

I spent 6 hours trouble shooting my msi AIO. I should’ve searched it up on the internet so I would’ve saved my self sometime.

[@Thesportynerd16]

Comes down to flow rate of the pump and fans on the rad. Can they be tuned?

[@guilllaumebellemare3070]

I have an i9-14900kf and get around 75 celcius in game with spikes going to 95-100 sometimes. Is that normal?

[@r3claim3r]

I have a 13700k and a Deepcool LT720 360mm aio, and with an applied 75mV undervolt can get it to just 74C in Cinebench.

[@furyon9816]

i have one of those msi coolers, but 240mm on my 7800x3d and have huge issues... even on idle i get around 70-80 degrees which is just stupid

[@foxshowl3284]

Well if you look the cpu during the two test was msi cooler cores up to 5.3ghz and the corsair one is at 5.4 and i think i saw 5.5ghz on some point to

[@VYM]

Same shit with my new 14700k. After i installed it and launched few benchmarks temperature jumped from 37 to 95-99 in half second. Only one way i found to drop temperature to 65-70 is decrease cores boost ratios from 55/56 to 45 and decrease turbo boost from 253 to 110 watts. Air cooling, liquid cooling, cryogenic cooling is absolutely useless for that CPU and all 14th generation from fkn Intel.

[@Nave6W]

I’ve never had a part on my pc over 83°C as far as I can remember

[@owenklein1917]

Why does bro move like an NPC

[@AlphaPlaysFPS]

My Asus Ryujin II keeps my i9-13900k at 75-80° while gaming in ultra and even on battlefield 2042 which is a not cpu friendly game

[@xShizuma]

Yea same! I got the same AiO and it works super fine, especially the 360 version

[@jiren9822]

Hello mate what about the Lian Li Galahad 2 360mm LCD it's enough to cool the i9 14900k ?..

[@joshlankau6227]

why does no one uses contact plates for cpu, will help greatly with temps

[@TheHammerGuy94]

Try the NHD15, and check the clock speeds.

[@lucasblanchard47]

The random gesturing and shrugging looks weird haha

[@nastyyoda5673]

Arctic liquid freezer 360 is the best one due to it's bigger radiator

[@viliamrev.1]

Lt720 is better now. Coming from an arctic lf2 360 user

[@adrianjemmeson7747]

I have the 280 and it cools my 13700k easily under full load

[@ShinPorsche]

100c sheesh I can cook eggs there while my 5950x runs cool 50c max. I'm happy that I didn't go next gen, but for gpu probably go next gen

[@darkemperortr2522]

What cpu cooler are you using I have ryzen 9 5900x and using be quiet dark rock pro 4

[@viliamrev.1]

Its the bending ihs. Thats the problem. If you delid it and use the antibending frame and you wont get over 75C.

[@loudspeakertestsmorebyaida3804]

I got 88 degrees C on my Intel Core i7 14700K CPU.

[@Kl1psyreal]

Can you try the 13 gen i9 with out a cooler I want to see how hot it gets

[@arsene3260]

And a shit ton more fans, you can use the thermaltake core p8, it can hold 18 fans, and it’s open case, so add another, really big fan, in front of it, and use clear shampoo instead of thermal paste, it works way better

[@reignxcv2960]

honestly, MSI is really good with their support it actually surprised me. Personally I do NOT use any MSI products in my PC. however, I built my best friends PC and the motherboard was messed up and MSI responded and replaced it without any trouble. I will say that I was annoyed at first that I had to create an MSI account just to contact them

[@pangeranrio0112]

Just add the CPU contact frame, replacing the stock retention arm

[@aliensporebomb]

So what Cinebench results did you get?

[@vexun11]

What pl1 and pl2 should I set my i9 14900f to? Temps get too high when benchmarking even with good cooling.

[@gxdx7801]

Bro I got an nzxt kraken x73 and I run my cpu at 58 degrees on cyber punk (I9-1900k) you guys just need to clean dust and re apply thermal paste

[@Snows_Cold]

Try the 13900 ks next time please if you get one(please)

[@VeggyZ]

I've seen people having really bizarre (in a good way) results from lowering voltage a bit ... or in some cases kind of a lot... I dunno much about it, but the temps they've gotten without noticeable performance reduction is actually a bit hard to believe without trying... maybe I will.

[@gamingedition5165]

The new cpus are designed to run at maximum temperatures to push stock performance as much as possible. Should of checked if boost frequency changed.

[@marsMayflower]

my mag v2 works really well

[@trentrichards7072]

I've had a v2 for about 4 months on a i9-9900. Keeps it below 65c always.

[@wildrouseacer]

One question can noctua nh-d15 cool this beast or the only thing which can cool this beast are high powered modified liquid coolers or liquid nitrogen or helium?

[@Kwik_3224]

What sould i do then to run it cool as possible? Turn off the motherboard autosetting?

[@wiish.4608]

My 7800x3d still around 60 degrees c while gaming with air cooling lmao

[@heyitsmejm4792]

thats a 65 watt TDP cpu and the 3D variant is voltage locked of course its a lot cooler. 13900k is a nuclear reactor lmao

[@wiish.4608]

@@heyitsmejm4792 yeah lol I realize that. Just comparing thermals.

[@gjallarhorn456]

And here I am with a 14900k overclocked and the temp stays around 58°c under heavy load 😮 Thank you corsair H150i, worth every penny.